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Post by ndcoach on Mar 2, 2017 23:22:41 GMT -6
Saw all Shawn Liotta's sessions in Phoenix. He was great, lots of great info, fun and engaging to listen too, stayed after to answer additional questions and chit chat a bit. He got right into the topics, didn't spend 20 minutes going through stats. He actually talked about how they do things. He talked about their practice structure, run game, installing the no huddle, how they call their plays, etc. He might of been more open because he was so far from home, but he was very candid with everything. I'm sure it was clips of all his Clariton tape. All sub 4.5 studs. Not much of where he is now i'm guessing Actually he did not show a lot of film, but what he did show had a mix of Clairton and his new gig. I figured it would be all clairton as well.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 26, 2017 17:26:52 GMT -6
When a team has the QB has run over to the sideline between every snap to get the next play. I am sure there are many on here that do it and they have their reasons for it and it works for them, but that irritates me beyond belief. Why does that irritate you? What's the big deal? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand why how the other team chooses to implement their play calling effects you? For the record, I do this. Not offended just trying to understand why it offends you. Seems odd to me. Honestly it is not a big deal and doesn't effect me one bit, but it is just something that when I see it is frustrating. Part of it could be that we don't huddle and I'm not used of the time it takes to run over and back, just want to get to the next play. Perhaps I worded my initial post poorly and made it seem like it was a bigger deal to me than it actually is. Its like someone with 20 items in the 15 items or less line, or someone accidently cuts you off, it doesn't really effect you and is no big deal but when it happens its frustrating for a bit.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 24, 2017 0:53:42 GMT -6
When a team has the QB has run over to the sideline between every snap to get the next play. I am sure there are many on here that do it and they have their reasons for it and it works for them, but that irritates me beyond belief.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 24, 2017 0:39:52 GMT -6
Ours runs north-south. In our league There are 2 that run North-South (Including ours) and 4 that run east-west. There are 2 other schools within 20 miles that are not in our league that have east-west fields as well. We are in CA right by Mexico and the wind always blows out of the west, make of that what you will.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 23, 2017 12:32:50 GMT -6
I'll be there as well.
Anyone seen Dan Pippin, from Greendwood, SC? I wanted to see his offensive talks when I was in Phoenix but wanted to see Liotta as well so I knew I could catch Pippin in LA.
AS coachtua said Paul Alexander from the Bengals is really good, I have seen him in the past. Tim Murphy and Jerry Campbell are there too, I have enjoyed hearing them speak in the past as well.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 5, 2017 23:36:29 GMT -6
Saw all Shawn Liotta's sessions in Phoenix. He was great, lots of great info, fun and engaging to listen too, stayed after to answer additional questions and chit chat a bit. He got right into the topics, didn't spend 20 minutes going through stats. He actually talked about how they do things. He talked about their practice structure, run game, installing the no huddle, how they call their plays, etc. He might of been more open because he was so far from home, but he was very candid with everything.
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Post by ndcoach on Sept 22, 2016 13:50:26 GMT -6
Last Friday our RB had 24 carries for 247 yards and a TD, our QB went 14 for 22 for 220 yards and 2 TD's and we lost 34-31.
Red Zone killed us, in the first half
1st and goal from the 5 - Center snaps the ball over the QB's head, they recover. 1st and 10 from the 11 - Turnover on downs 1st and 10 from the 17 - Missed FG 1st and 10 from the 20 - Block in the back, Holding, Sack, end up 2nd and 31, manage to get back to the 25 and then Miss a FG Second half 1st and 10 from the 20: End up 4th and 6th, call timeout and tell the QB to throw to a specific kid who has been open every time, QB throws to a different kid, kid we told him to throw to was wide open. Luckily we got a PI call. Unfortunately we do nothing with the next 3 downs and kick a FG.
1 for 5 in the red zone with a bad snap and 2 missed FG's but that has been our season so far, actively finding ways to lose games.
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Post by ndcoach on Jan 9, 2016 14:59:51 GMT -6
The gophers are notorious for skipping over quality instate "program guys." I coach at a school in the largest class in the Minneapolis area and have recommended multiple guys who I know given some time could have played in the big ten. All of them were outstanding workers with great character, grades etc. However they were all an inch short, or twenty pounds too light, but they all had the speed (which is the hardest quality to come by) and the drive to be there. I'm not saying they would be dominant, but they would definitely would be an asset. I wouldn't recommend them if they couldnt compete at that level because it hurts my crediblity and I hate blowing smoke up a 17 yo kid. Most recently, a d end w/ a 4.0 GPA and had the height, strength and speed, but was only 235and had "short arms" was told he was a "tweener" and didnt have the hips for linebacker and didn't have the size for d line. So he ended up going to one of the aforementioned schools, redshirted, gained 50 lbs, didnt lose a step, and was the defensive player of the year in his conference by his rs freshmen year. Meanwhile, the kid who they brought in from Texas because they were "looking for lineman" and was allegedly ready to play right now failed and dropped out of school. I've talked to several of the coaches in my area and they have had similar experiences as well. One of the kids from a school nearby, had a center that was probably the best hs football player I've ever seen from a technical aspect was not pursued by the gophers at all because he barely registered a star on rivals. The kid goes to a camp at Alabama and Saban tells him if you gain 25 pounds, you have a spot here. Well he did just that, and Saban held true to his word and offered him when he came back to camp the next year. He is like their utility interior lineman now who goes in whenever somebody goes down. I don't know how a kid like that ever leaves the state! He is way better than any of the kids they throw out there, especially with all the injury issues the gophers had on the line this year had this year. Look at John Crockett, Marcus Williams, and Billy Turner. All 3 are from the Twin Cities and were passed over by Minnesota. All 3 wound up at NDSU and now all 3 are in the NFL. Pretty much 3 great examples of exactly what you are saying. As a Bison fan though I hope Minnesota never changes.
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Post by ndcoach on Dec 23, 2015 23:13:05 GMT -6
As a player my Sophomore year we were 1-9. We were a brand new High School, first year of the program, nothing but Soph’s and Juniors. No one had played a down of varsity football. Instead of a JV schedule we had an incredibly difficult independent schedule. We had section champs, private schools with multiple D-1 commits, it was brutal. We returned an interception for a TD the first week then did not score again until week 7 or 8. Not the best story because it was not the players or coaches fault, we were just out manned and it showed.
As a coach though (coincidently at the same school I played for) we had a spectacular disaster of a year in the one and only year I coached for them. I had interviewed for the head job and did not get it but was offered a job as a teacher, took it because it was a big bump in pay and I got to go back home. They guy they hired came in with a pretty impressive resume, had some big names like Mouse Davis and June Jones on it. I was excited to work there, figured I could learn a lot. Found out later in the year he had not worked with Davis or Jones but a friend of his had and his buddy got him invited to work a camp with them.
We had some decent athletes. 2 of our kids would play juco basketball and couple of our players could have played some small college ball, so it was not like we had a huge talent disadvantage. Had good numbers in spring but the wheels came off the bus quickly and it became a huge unorganized dumpster fire. The Highlights, or rather lowlights:
Finished 1-8, got outscored 342-92 and the 92 points are misleading, 22 came in the last game of the year and 35 came in our one win.
During summer and into the first week of practice we would have at least 2 hour chalk talks where he basically would repeat the same things over and over. The central themes were his offense is unstoppable and the corner route is the greatest route ever, he scored 27 Touchdowns on it when he played.
During the first week of practice the HC and projected starting corner got into a huge argument on the field and the kid quit to go run cross country.
The HC was always late to practice. He would go behind the gym and smoke and would not make it on time. By the first game there were only assistant coaches left were the DC, me, and another guy. By the end of the year the other guy only came once or twice a week. There were several times I ran an entire offensive practice by myself before the replacement DC got there (more on that later)
Our first DC quit the day before our first game (He was the DC in name only)
Our first game we got at least 5 penalties for 12 men on the field and played at least 10 plays with 10 men. What happened was the HC wanted to switch between a 5-3 and 4-4 on defense. When we switched we would sub out a LB, but he never told anyone which group he wanted so a series would end and both kids would got out the next time and we got flagged, then he’d yell at them, both would come off and we’d play with 10. It was bad.
We were always 10 personnel had 2 running plays a dive and a toss to the single back. When we ran the toss we offset the single back, only play we did this. So you can guess how well that went. Week 6 or 7 it was decided by the HC we would run splitback veer as well.
The third game of the year the HC wore the colors of the team we were playing. He said it was because he was color blind but I don’t know how you miss the logo of our school that was on our coaching shirts.
At halftime of the third game the AD went into the stands to beg the DC from last year to come help because a bunch of kids were on the verge of quitting. The new DC taught at another school so he could not make it until practices were halfway over. The AD told the HC that offense was to be finished by the time the DC got there and the HC was to not interfere with the defensive portion of practice. From then on when the new DC got to practice the head coach would send the QB and a WR home and then leave.
We actually won the fourth game. It was against a team that was incredibly bad. At one point they lost at least 50 games in a row and a couple of years ago they ended up dropping football. The HC forgot to bring the footballs so we had to borrow one.
During an offensive team session the QB was sacked and the HC went off on our starting center chewing him out for missing the block, etc. The center waited until he was done then told him the back-up center was in during that last rep.
After we lost to our cross town rivals the HC got the ax (Week 7), we had wildfires nearby so the next game and week of practice was called off. Players basically refused to return to practice unless the HC was gone.
It was a nightmare of a year.
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Post by ndcoach on Nov 15, 2015 0:08:00 GMT -6
Not so much a weird injury, but more of a dumb/horrible luck situation for us.
Last year one of our kids tears the ACL in his right knee in the 4th game of the year while covering a punt. No contact, just tries to change direction and it goes. Gets surgury, comes back ready for his senior season. First game of the year he is back to return a punt, the punt is short and he turns to run away from the ball. Tears the ACL in his left knee. Felt so bad for the kid
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Post by ndcoach on Aug 19, 2015 23:35:23 GMT -6
Just put it out there for him, treat him like a man, and tell him how it is. I'd have him come into the office so it is done in private, no need to do it in front of his team mates. I'd have other coaches in with me so there is no twisting of words later on. The just explain to him like you did here. Here is where you are on the depth chart, there are two or three other people ahead of you. This year we are not doing rotations like we have in the past because of the depth we have this year. If you are thinner at another position where he might be able to spot play maybe mention that to him and see if he wants to switch. That is how we would do it. You don't have to be cruel about it, but it's much better to just lay it out there and be upfront. It is not the most pleasant thing in the world, but it has to be done sometimes.
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Post by ndcoach on Dec 12, 2014 21:58:29 GMT -6
So, do your skill coaches coach two positions? Yes, we have one coach that coaches WR and DB's and the other coach coaches RB's and LB's.
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Post by ndcoach on Dec 11, 2014 15:24:42 GMT -6
This is how we have ran our one and a half platoon practices.
Monday
Warm Up - 10 min Special teams – 15 min
Offensive individual – 10 Min (Skill players to their offensive group) OL and DL working in separate indy groups. Offensive Group – 10 Min - Blitz Pick Up - DL serves as a scout team against the OL and FB (Rotate Backups as needed) 7 on 7 for the other skill players (We try to rotate FB’s through 7 on 7 and blitz pick up)
Team Offense 10 Min. – DL and skill backups serve as scout team (Rotate Backups as needed)
Defensive Individual – 10 Min - (Skill players go to their Defensive Groups) OL and DL get another Indy period
Defensive Group - Set Rec – 10 Min - OL and skill player backups serve as a scout team (Rotate backups as needed)
Team Defense - 10 Min - OL and skill player backups serve as a scout team (Rotate backups as needed)
Tuesday (Offensive Emphasis Day)
Warm Up - 10 min Special teams – 15 min
Offensive Indy – 10 Min. Same as Monday
Offensive Group – 10 Min - Inside Run (9 on 9) – DL and skill player backups make up the scout team (Rotate backups as needed). During this time we have enough players so that WR’s can go 1 on 1 vs DB’s as well.
Offensive Indy – 10 Min
Offensive Group – 10 Min. - 7 on 7 / OL-DL 1 on 1’s or Blitz Pick Up – Skill players will work 7 on 7 (Same as Monday) while the OL and DL will either work Blitz Pick Up or 1 on 1’s either Pass Blocking 1 on 1’s or what we call “Pods” which is basically run blocking 1 on 1’s.
Team Offense – 15 Min. (Same as Monday)
Defensive Group or Indy – Depending on what is needed. – 10 min. If it is Group then the OL and Skill backups serve as a scout team. If it is Indy the Skill players go to their defensive groups and the OL and DL have their Indy time
Team Defense – 15 Min. (Same as Monday).
Wednesday is a Defensive Emphasis Day so just take Tuesdays practice and flip the offensive and defensive parts. Thursday is a walk through.
We do this with a roster size of 30-40 players and 5 coaches on one level. We use a full time OL and DL coach. The OL and DL coach also run the scout teams. We also have a QB coach, RB/LB coach, and a WR/DB coach.
This is a rough outline of what we do for a one and half platoon practice. It has served us pretty well and I think we do a pretty good job of limiting players standing around.
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Post by ndcoach on Nov 11, 2013 19:19:07 GMT -6
Imperial. We're up in Division 2 now. It is an interesting setup. Our division and the Open are brutal, but then down in Div 4 only 1 team has a winning record.
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Post by ndcoach on Nov 6, 2013 14:14:26 GMT -6
The San Diego Section is trying something different this year. There are 6 divisions (The Open Division and then Div. 1-5). The division placement is not based on enrollment but rather on a rating that is essentially a 5 year average of the ratings displayed on maxpreps. The open division is the 8 best teams, then Div 1 is the next best 15, and so on. A committee sets up the playoffs, league winners are assured a spot in their respective divisions. The Committee then decides who is seeded where and who is in and who is out, etc.
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Post by ndcoach on Dec 16, 2012 21:02:02 GMT -6
I should have explained my definition of competitive. Would they hang with Notre Dame or Alabama, no not a chance. But I believe each could be in the hunt to make a small bowl game. That's my definition of competitive, over .500 and fighting for a small bowl game.
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Post by ndcoach on Dec 16, 2012 13:08:10 GMT -6
I was at the game. It was one of the best games I have ever seen. Everything the ESPN2 announcers may have said about the noise in the Fargo Dome is 100% accurate. It was LOUD when GSU had the ball and dead quiet when NDSU had the ball. Both teams were getting after it and playing through the whistle, very very exciting game to see.
GSU has a great team. Their QB, McKinnon, is a stud. He was getting at least 3 yards every time he had the ball. And GSU runs the flexbone so well. They had 430 total yards and 20 points against an NDSU defense that had not given up a TD in the last 3 playoff games.
Both those teams would be very competitive at the FBS level.
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Post by ndcoach on Jul 30, 2012 16:50:40 GMT -6
2 in High School as a player
Worked for 7 different HC's as an assistant in 11 years.
So a total of 9
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Post by ndcoach on Jul 11, 2012 16:18:21 GMT -6
The last hour of practice at night is the fun part...we have lights on our practice field, so we flip them on and have a little fun. Something about those lights isnt there?! Yes there is. The last part of practice when the sun goes down is always nice. Even during the season we practice from 5-7. Partly because it stays hot till October and primarily because many players have tutoring when school starts that does not end till 4:15. To add on to what larrymoe said: Our kids love the one long practice with a break format too. One of the main things I hated as a player was finishing an evening practice then going right to bed and having to wake up early for another practice, it was like you had no time off. Then having to come back again the next evening you were shot. Doing one long practice gives the kids a little more time to recover in between sessions without sacrificing the amount of practice time
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Post by ndcoach on Jul 8, 2012 19:56:31 GMT -6
....the funny thing about these jobs is that have you ever heard a person claim they came in third?? It's always shoot it was between me and another guy but the other guy got it ..I laugh to myself each time.....Well, with the jobs I have applied for most of the time, it just wasn't the right fit for me at the school, which I understood..I am a business teacher and those schools didn't have an opening at the time or someone w/ alot more HC experience than me got the job....gosh, if you take stuff like that personally in this business, you won't be very happy much of the time...even Bill Belechik got fired I was told I came in third. I interviewed with the high school I graduated from and the Principal called me and said I was their third choice, but they had a history job open and hired me to be a teacher and an assistant. They also hired their second place guy as an assistant. Long story short the season was a disaster, the second place guy quit a few weeks into the year and the top guy was fired with 3 games left. I was the only one that finished the season.
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Post by ndcoach on Jul 8, 2012 12:28:42 GMT -6
We go 5pm-9pm. We run an hour and a half session then go inside for a 30 min break and come out for another 2 hour session. We are out in the desert and temps are up around 115 everyday so we have to go real early or later in the day when it's nice (nice = 95 to 100). Everyone like 5pm a lot more than 5 am so that's what we went with.
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Post by ndcoach on May 16, 2012 9:12:42 GMT -6
In North Dakota 700 students puts you in the largest classification. A town that I admire and would not consider small with 119 high school enrolment is Napoleon high school, they are defending state champs they have won 3 in school history and a couple runner ups but they are tough year in and year out they are physical and are perennial playoff contenders. Napoleon is a nice place, very tough in 9 man football and wrestling year in and year out. Wydmere-Lidgerwood, Hillsboro, and Divide County are other 9 man teams that are tough year in and year out. The best small school program in the state is Velva. They have won 6 of the last 10 Class A titles.
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Post by ndcoach on Apr 18, 2012 22:44:26 GMT -6
I used to do triple duty as well...Football, Basketball, and the Throws. Gave up basketball because it took too much out of me to go from one sport to the other for the whole year. Now I just do football and Shot/Disc.
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Post by ndcoach on Nov 2, 2011 23:45:52 GMT -6
Were up in a game this year 48-30 with a minute left. We just got a first down at the opponents ten and we lined up to take a knee. We are in the standard victory formation. Double TE, 2 rb right next to the QB and our FB 15 yards deep. As we get ready to snap it the opposing defense starts calling out "watch the pass".
What made it really funny is we had only thrown the ball 7 times that night and had run for 455 yards
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Post by ndcoach on Aug 22, 2010 11:48:42 GMT -6
More than I thought. What do you run? We run a 3-4 defense and tripple option is the base of our offense. Defensively: 3-3 Offensively: I and Double Wing
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Post by ndcoach on Aug 12, 2010 14:39:10 GMT -6
Coached 9 man for 3 years in North Dakota
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Post by ndcoach on Apr 20, 2006 7:23:30 GMT -6
ndcoach Yeah I think I remember you I was throwing about that time too that was my senior year, I threw in the winter season and not the spring that year if memory serves me right on the year, because I was the only thrower that winter and the year before the other guy wasn't going into coaching You played football right? I didn't play football, just did track. My first year there were 2 other guys out and 1 girl. I did the indoor season, but hurt my shoulder so I didn't get to do outdoor
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Post by ndcoach on Apr 19, 2006 14:33:25 GMT -6
oldwarrior: I threw shot and disc for Minot starting in the spring semester of '99.
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Post by ndcoach on Apr 19, 2006 9:10:20 GMT -6
Hello Fellow Beaver
I was born in Bowdon, but went to school in El Centro, CA.
Came back to ND for college at Minot State.
Currently coaching and teaching in Strasburg, ND. Next year will be somewhere else.
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Post by ndcoach on Apr 19, 2006 8:13:17 GMT -6
SD has two classes of 9 man MN also has 9 man Several schools in Manitoba and Saskatchewan also play 9 man
In ND 9 man is played by schools that have under 75 male students in grades 7 - 12
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