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Post by rsmith627 on Jan 31, 2017 6:19:55 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why?
Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out.
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Post by s73 on Jan 31, 2017 6:43:25 GMT -6
I have to 2nd that one.
Also, the infamous "Yeah..but"
"Why isn't my kid playing coach?" Remember I emailed you last February & said he wasn't showing up to workouts & it would probably effect his ability to be on the field? "Yeah...but".
"Coach you need to throw the ball more". Umm, we made the play offs with a team that has never had a winning record in the history of their playing careers". "Yeah...but".
"Coach I like playing football but I don't like siting on the sidelines". Remember when I called you & told you that you needed to get your butt to summer practice & you ignored me....."Yeah...but ". Not to mention the fact you had a code violation last year..."Yeah but".
I have experienced all of these this past season.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Jan 31, 2017 6:48:15 GMT -6
Had a good one a few years ago. Started the season 5-0 (first time in school history) and got a phone call from a parent saying he thought I did a great job, but we need to balance the offense more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 7:10:29 GMT -6
I HATE "Yeah...But" with a passion. In the same vein I hear a lot of "I Know..." when correcting technique...boils my piss.
My favourite, by far, this season was from a player coming across from Germany. First practice he walked up to me and said "Coach, I'll email you the playbook for my team in Germany, maybe you can have a look at it for some new play ideas?".
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 31, 2017 7:37:27 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. We are semi loaded this upcoming year and will be fully loaded the following. I think coaches say it more than you think, but will rarely say it outside their circle. Does it mean our team will win a state championship? No. Depends how loaded our opponents are.
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Post by s73 on Jan 31, 2017 7:48:20 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. We are semi loaded this upcoming year and will be fully loaded the following. I think coaches say it more than you think, but will rarely say it outside their circle. Does it mean our team will win a state championship? No. Depends how loaded our opponents are. I think most coaches don't say it b/c if you say it & then don't win well....just made yourself a nice chit sandwich.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 31, 2017 7:59:40 GMT -6
We are semi loaded this upcoming year and will be fully loaded the following. I think coaches say it more than you think, but will rarely say it outside their circle. Does it mean our team will win a state championship? No. Depends how loaded our opponents are. I think most coaches don't say it b/c if you say it & then don't win well....just made yourself a nice chit sandwich. What a lot of people don't take into account is the other teams. I'm sure all of us get the "how you guys gonna be this year" question from anyone and everyone. My answer is always very similar. Ill give an honest statement like we should be pretty solid all around. We have some talent..., but i always follow up with..."but it depends on the other teams in the division too." You can be loaded with talent, but so could other teams.
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Post by brophy on Jan 31, 2017 9:09:33 GMT -6
clinics
* coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths
* coaches that punctuate every sentence with a call for acknowledgement "aight", "mmmmkay", etc
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Post by coachcb on Jan 31, 2017 9:13:12 GMT -6
To be honest, other coaches throw me into a rage quicker than anything else.
"You really need athletes to run _____ offense".
"We just don't have the guys to run the ball!"
"We're not good enough to throw the ball!"
"The Wing-T/SBV/Flexbone/DW (etc..) doesn't work anymore. You need to spread people out."
"We don't have enough DL to run the 4-3!!"
"We don't have enough LBs to run the 3-4!!"
The wondrous age of technology has produced an entire generation of coaches that are Xs and Os gurus but have no idea how to teach the kids to play the game. Guys don't spend time looking up good drills or trying to understand the fundamentals of the game. They scour the internet for playbooks... I am running into more and more coaches that are completely belligerent when I try to teach them how to teach our offensive and defensive schemes..
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Post by **** on Jan 31, 2017 9:14:51 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme.
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Post by fantom on Jan 31, 2017 9:15:46 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths I hate it when people get the terminology wrong. It's not a "pack" of dip, it's a CAN of dip.
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Post by **** on Jan 31, 2017 9:17:42 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths * coaches that punctuate every sentence with a call for acknowledgement "aight", "mmmmkay", etc The thing I hate the most at clinics is the guy that talks about his coaching philosophy and background for 30 minutes. To me that is just BS used to kill time, used by a guy that didn't prepare to speak. If you want to say "I've been here, and there. We like to ____." I'm fine with that. Anything more is wasting time.
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Post by carookie on Jan 31, 2017 9:58:33 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. I coached a "LOADED" team a few years back and gladly told everyone. We had 15 seniors on our team of 37, at a school of just over 200 (15% of which were exchange students from China). Of those seniors 4 went D1, another 6 went D2 or D3. Anytime a teaching colleague or parent would congratulate me on the "W" or want to talk about the team I would always point out that we had more talent per capita than any school I had ever seen. I think plenty of coaches will be honest with the appraisal of their talent, heck some might even overestimate their talent.
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Post by youthfootballonline on Jan 31, 2017 10:01:55 GMT -6
To be honest, other coaches throw me into a rage quicker than anything else. "You really need athletes to run _____ offense". "We just don't have the guys to run the ball!" "We're not good enough to throw the ball!" "The Wing-T/SBV/Flexbone/DW (etc..) doesn't work anymore. You need to spread people out." "We don't have enough DL to run the 4-3!!" "We don't have enough LBs to run the 3-4!!" The wondrous age of technology has produced an entire generation of coaches that are Xs and Os gurus but have no idea how to teach the kids to play the game. Guys don't spend time looking up good drills or trying to understand the fundamentals of the game. They scour the internet for playbooks... I am running into more and more coaches that are completely belligerent when I try to teach them how to teach our offensive and defensive schemes.. YES! "YOU REALLY NEED ATHLETES TO RUN ___ OFFENSE" DRIVES ME NUTS! WING T STILL WORKS! JEFF
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 31, 2017 10:03:46 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths I hate it when people get the terminology wrong. It's not a "pack" of dip, it's a CAN of dip. -I believe some coaches would insist there is no universal terminology. -A few years ago we averaged 35.8ppg and only threw the ball 5-6 times a night. We ran the puke out of the ball and I had those comments about "coach you gotta be more balanced." -The parent who thinks their son will be a scholarship player. "Ma'am your son is a nice boy and a slightly above average 2A player in our state." "What you don't like my son and want to crush his dream?" "No ma'am I like your son, and he is a good high school player for us. But he is not going to get money to play football in college."
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 31, 2017 10:06:07 GMT -6
the biggest thing that bugs me is kids dont care about HS football anymore
the game of HS football is ruined here (and probably even worse in Socal)
1. kids arent going where they grew up, they lie and fake address and try to make little super teams 2. kids are more focused on all the outside crap like 7on7 teams and other BS rather than getting better with their teammates
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Post by StraightFlexin on Jan 31, 2017 10:06:31 GMT -6
I hate with clinic coaches want to give a presentation, but is something that could be taken out of an idiots guide to football.
"This is the flexbone" "This is a football" "Football has laces" "See Joe run"
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Post by StraightFlexin on Jan 31, 2017 10:10:35 GMT -6
The thing I hate the most at clinics is the guy that talks about his coaching philosophy and background for 30 minutes. To me that is just BS used to kill time, used by a guy that didn't prepare to speak. If you want to say "I've been here, and there. We like to ____." I'm fine with that. Anything more is wasting time. Once had a coach talk for an entire session giving the height, weight, and stats of his top 6 offensive lineman. A guy behind me fell asleep and was snoring loud as hell.
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Post by joelee on Jan 31, 2017 10:10:43 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme. I try to say it as much as possible. Our HC says nobody ever won the Kentucky Derby on a mule. We have 3 former HC's on our staff, a Superintendent who used to be the DC here and lots of great HS players (notice I didn't say D-1). We have won 5 out of the last 6 titles in our class.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 31, 2017 10:17:24 GMT -6
I hate it when people get the terminology wrong. It's not a "pack" of dip, it's a CAN of dip. -I believe some coaches would insist there is no universal terminology. -A few years ago we averaged 35.8ppg and only threw the ball 5-6 times a night. We ran the puke out of the ball and I had those comments about "coach you gotta be more balanced."
-The parent who thinks their son will be a scholarship player. "Ma'am your son is a nice boy and a slightly above average 2A player in our state." "What you don't like my son and want to crush his dream?" "No ma'am I like your son, and he is a good high school player for us. But he is not going to get money to play football in college." I have experienced both of these as well and they are tied for second on my list of gripes. We were averaging 48 points running the ball one season and were undefeated. We'd throw it up two-three times a game off of PA. Assistants and parents a like were hounding me to call more passes and to install a larger passing package. I came uncorked on the staff and told them that if they were more than welcome to leave the staff if they had an issue with scoring half-a-century every week and winning games. I had a dad once that sent his kid to all kinds of expensive camps each summer. The kid didn't lift with us as daddy got him a personal trainer. We got the kid turns at TB to start the season but he was third string, at best. So, we plugged him in at FB ("Pro-style" offense). His dad threw a fit, told the administration that we were mistreating his boy (mainly because we told him that he could play FB or he didn't need to play at all) and we had an meeting about it. I'll never forget this idiot's words: "We've invested a lot of money into ____ and expect you coaches to do right by him and get him a college scholarship." I laughed SO hard when he said that.
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Post by s73 on Jan 31, 2017 11:23:17 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths I hate it when people get the terminology wrong. It's not a "pack" of dip, it's a CAN of dip. I'm usually sitting in the audience with a can of dip in my mouth so I choose not to judge.
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Post by fantom on Jan 31, 2017 11:33:41 GMT -6
-A few years ago we averaged 35.8ppg and only threw the ball 5-6 times a night. We ran the puke out of the ball and I had those comments about "coach you gotta be more balanced." We were basically a power team a few years ago and some people always talked about how conservative and boring we were. That continued even after a reporter wrote a story that showed that over a five year period we were the highest scoring team in the state.
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Post by carookie on Jan 31, 2017 11:44:48 GMT -6
the biggest thing that bugs me is kids dont care about HS football anymore the game of HS football is ruined here (and probably even worse in Socal) 1. kids arent going where they grew up, they lie and fake address and try to make little super teams 2. kids are more focused on all the outside crap like 7on7 teams and other BS rather than getting better with their teammates I am in So-Cal and this is one of my biggest beefs. I wouldn't say "kids don't care about HS football anymore" as much as I feel its become far more about poaching/recruiting and as you wrote building a super team (they care, just in a different way). The rules are brazenly bent and broken but the CIF SS never does anything. Most parents don't care because they see it as a way to help their kid get ahead, school admins are fine because it helps their schools. I can think of a number of schools nearby me where people most everyone, "knew they were going to turn it around" because they had been out recruiting, and these are public schools. As an aside, I wish they would divide up leagues both by student enrollment #s, and percent of students who did not come from a feeder school. This goes hand in hand with an apparent change in the primary goal of most of the stakeholders: getting the kid into college ball. I have come across dozens of coaches who openly state that their number one goal is to get their players into college; which may seem benevolent but the more you listen the more you realize that this is their goal because it helps them recruit. Whereas I am not naive enough to think most coaches are out there with the #1 goal of building better men, I would gladly settle for coaches whose #1 goal is winning as opposed to the college "scam", at least then I feel like they aren't trying to do it to recruit other kids away.
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Post by coachgutz on Jan 31, 2017 12:31:50 GMT -6
To be honest, other coaches throw me into a rage quicker than anything else. "You really need athletes to run _____ offense". "We just don't have the guys to run the ball!" "We're not good enough to throw the ball!" "The Wing-T/SBV/Flexbone/DW (etc..) doesn't work anymore. You need to spread people out." "We don't have enough DL to run the 4-3!!" "We don't have enough LBs to run the 3-4!!" The wondrous age of technology has produced an entire generation of coaches that are Xs and Os gurus but have no idea how to teach the kids to play the game. Guys don't spend time looking up good drills or trying to understand the fundamentals of the game. They scour the internet for playbooks... I am running into more and more coaches that are completely belligerent when I try to teach them how to teach our offensive and defensive schemes.. The "We don't have enough to run..." or "this won't work." I've seen quite a few coaches who refuse to learn anything new and only believe certain things will work, rather than listening to others or looking at how something can benefit the team.
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Post by olcoach53 on Jan 31, 2017 12:53:47 GMT -6
Anytime I hear a coach scream "Block somebody" and they have no clue what they are talking about
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Post by coachcb on Jan 31, 2017 12:56:01 GMT -6
To be honest, other coaches throw me into a rage quicker than anything else. "You really need athletes to run _____ offense". "We just don't have the guys to run the ball!" "We're not good enough to throw the ball!" "The Wing-T/SBV/Flexbone/DW (etc..) doesn't work anymore. You need to spread people out." "We don't have enough DL to run the 4-3!!" "We don't have enough LBs to run the 3-4!!" The wondrous age of technology has produced an entire generation of coaches that are Xs and Os gurus but have no idea how to teach the kids to play the game. Guys don't spend time looking up good drills or trying to understand the fundamentals of the game. They scour the internet for playbooks... I am running into more and more coaches that are completely belligerent when I try to teach them how to teach our offensive and defensive schemes.. The "We don't have enough to run..." or "this won't work." I've seen quite a few coaches who refuse to learn anything new and only believe certain things will work, rather than listening to others or looking at how something can benefit the team. I have found that it's one of two situation: 1. Older coaches who have gotten stuck in their ways. This is where I hear a lot of the "we can't do _____ because of ____" statements. They change their schemes every other year to "adapt to their personnel". These are also the guys who decide that "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken chit" before a season starts and hamstring themselves. 2. Younger guys who spend spend hours going through playbooks and Xs and Os (or playing friggin' Madden..) and deciding that there are Facemelter schemes out there. They think that whatever current offensive or defensive trend is going is the only thing that will work. These are the guys that p-ss me off the most because we run the Wing-T and they argue about running it constantly because they don't see it in their video games or on Saturday or Sunday afternoons. We can be hanging fifty points on people each week but the offense sucks because we're not in the gun..
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 31, 2017 12:56:18 GMT -6
People (coaches, players, parents, fans) who make excuses for poor performance.
Reasons are fine. Examples
"We lost because we had 5 turnovers." "We had too many penalties that put our offense in bad spots." "We gave up 7 yards per carry and 350 total rushing yards."
Excuses suck. Examples
"We need a different offense." "The refs sucked and were against us the whole game." "You can't stop the run with only 3 DL."
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 31, 2017 13:01:43 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. "We'll be lucky to win half our games this year." - the coach who's won the district the last 5 years and returns 15 starters - Me
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Post by rosey65 on Jan 31, 2017 13:18:12 GMT -6
Whether it is from ignorance, apathy, or just laziness, I really hate facing unprepared/under-coached teams...chit like, when we face a 4-3 cover 4, we go Dbl-TE, they never adjust..3-9 on one side, 1-9 on the other, 1 poor LB. Or a 6-2, bringing someone off the edge, and never having anyone in B-gap against my Wing-T offense we've ran for the past 11 seasons...
I love winning, and I hate losing, but dont waste my f-ing time. Your kids might be putzes, but at least them in the general vicinity to make a play. Otherwise, dont get mad when I yell "just run it again, they have no idea how to stop our base play" across the field in a silent stadium...
thanks for this one, im ready to go!!!!!!!!
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Post by Coach.A on Jan 31, 2017 13:35:08 GMT -6
I hate it when people get the terminology wrong. It's not a "pack" of dip, it's a CAN of dip. I'm usually sitting in the audience with a can of dip in my mouth so I choose not to judge. There's a relatively new Championship Productions coaching video out there where a college head coach has a huge dip in his mouth throughout the whole video.
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