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Post by dg1694 on May 14, 2015 7:46:56 GMT -6
since we are on a roll here...we just got done playing in a tournament...the games are 25 min long...close game we are down, the offense takes a knee so time runs out....I have now, after 25 years, officially seen it all Awful. Just awful.
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Post by dg1694 on May 13, 2015 8:41:24 GMT -6
Back to the origin of the thread, I thought the NZone advertisement was amusing.
I also think 7 on 7 is very useful. At its best, It keeps kids working on skills that they use on Friday nights in the fall. We have a youth 7on7 league where I live, and it was great as kids got used to a full field (I had serious concerns about getting throws to all parts of the field) and the use of a different sized ball. Luckily, my guys proved me wrong.
In Texas, HS coaches cannot coach, so it calls on the QB to be a master of his system and asserts leadership.
At its worst, 7on7 is what is being described by some of you. It's not a place to hurt players and then blame the play call/ play caller, or to use things the team will never use during the regular season.
But- it was amusing to see the ad.
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 11, 2015 12:43:23 GMT -6
My son will start tackle next fall (5th grade). Up until now, it's been 7on7 to learn how to throw, catch, and change direction and break down. Our team will be at practice and see tackle teams sharing the park; honestly those teams do more standing around than getting any reps. I see a lot of meaningless grass drills and literally 2-3 minutes between plays. Meanwhile, we a getting off about 35 pass plays in a 20 minute team segment. The completion percentage is also pretty high- and we call ACTUAL 5 man pass patterns. So, who is learning more football?
I believe that anything taught properly is worthwhile and can be done at a young age; we just made the compromise of contact at 5th grade (10 or so) because a lot of my parents were concerned about the physical development of their sons until then.
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 8, 2015 13:38:58 GMT -6
This is exactly why I've decided to do webinars. Much lower than the cost of going to a clinic, and it is interactive. Also, not locked in to a specific time. For example, the first webinar will be a minimum of 90 minutes, with no danger of having to end because the room is needed by the next speaker.
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Post by dg1694 on Mar 14, 2013 16:37:27 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I appreciate the kind words...
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Post by dg1694 on Jul 24, 2010 17:19:48 GMT -6
We've always tried to "install" during training camp. Once in school/ regular season, no new plays/ concepts (except gadgets/deceptives) are taught.
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Post by dg1694 on Apr 29, 2010 14:21:24 GMT -6
What a terrific article. I was hired by Gary Gaines as the QB coach @ ACU at the end of the 2004 season (Colt's recruiting period). Because of their connection w/ ACU, we were the only other school he visited, and I got a chance to come out to his his school as well. Though I never would have dreamed of him getting 45 Ws and all the other records, I was SO impressed with them both as human beings -- so much so that over the last 4 years, every conversation I've had with Greg Davis would start as an Xs & Os conversation, then move to what a SPECIAL person the triggerman was.
Thank you for sharing.
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Post by dg1694 on Dec 11, 2009 7:44:14 GMT -6
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Post by dg1694 on May 21, 2009 12:36:05 GMT -6
A lot of it is also perception. Jim Kelly was a D1 LB prospect -- but as a QB he couldn't run?
I coached the a kid in both college and HS...a pocket passer (meaning he went through progressions and did not pass up open receivers) who ran for 500 yards a season, district's leading rebounder in basketball at 6'2, 6'4 high jumper, and offered by Nebraska (when Solich was there) as a QB and another Big 12 offered him as a DB....
Anyway, goes to college, an put in a situation where he had great receivers and RB and never had to run - throws for 12000 yards and 120 TDs in his carreer and now the knock by the pros is that he's not a good enough athlete (unquestioned arm strength from what i was told). 40 time at Nike combine and NFL scouts was almost identical.
Few people remember Troy Aikman was a 4.7 guy out of college, or Gannon was tried out as a DB, or the Joe Montana actually has a pretty darned good arm. Sometimes I wonder how they can just slap a label on someone, and that's it.
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Post by dg1694 on May 10, 2009 10:33:46 GMT -6
I'm all for statistical probabitlity as a basis for study, but the thing that stuck with me are that he's calling a 13% scoring differential and a 14 yard field position difference no big deal -- those are HUGE differences!
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Post by dg1694 on Apr 4, 2009 9:19:49 GMT -6
Division 2 has a 1 time transfer rule, where you can transfer from d2 to another d2 without penalty
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Post by dg1694 on Mar 31, 2009 15:49:32 GMT -6
he does not have to sit, as long as he is transferring down.
He just needs to be eligible, passing an average of 12 hours per semester for the previous fall and spring, and be able to be admitted to school.
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Post by dg1694 on Mar 13, 2009 18:24:05 GMT -6
One thing I do know is that the commitment to football in Texas is huge. Some examples:
- I was able, in the offseason, to spend infinitely more offseason time with kids coaching TX HS football than when I was coaching in college. Also, as a coordinator, I had 1 PE class per day.
- A prominent school district I know of will hire substitutes for ALL coaches on MOndays during the playoffs so that staffs can gameplan.
- Just today, an NFL proday with scouts from more I was at was in jeopardy because of the weather. The solution: a local 3A high school's indoor practice facility
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 11, 2009 16:24:50 GMT -6
My belief that formations, as long as the learing burden is taken off the individual players by the system of teaching, can be multiple.
As far as plays go, I think you can have a lot of "plays" as long as you have few - Blocking/ Protection schemes - Read Concepts - Route techniques
As long as there is an organized, sensible way teaching and reinforcing in practice, the number of plays becomes a non issue
You can have more than enough offense with ju
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 6, 2009 9:02:58 GMT -6
Come on.. no A-holes out there??? haha Ok.. state championship.. in your first year at the school.. you are the head coach.. team was 0-10 the year before.. I was at a school that won two of them; I was a player then, and was determined not to make that the highlight of my life. The little man, however....Put it this way -- no GAME should be more important than your child.
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 5, 2009 20:27:26 GMT -6
I'd be at the birth of my child. Not even a question.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 27, 2009 15:56:36 GMT -6
While I agree with most of what you are saying I do not think it is fair to Carter in that group due to injury. He spent almost his entire career injuried. Not sure if it would have made a difference but you do have to think about it. i meant to add luck in there; that's why I listed him
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 27, 2009 15:23:43 GMT -6
Very interesting topic. I think the individual player is the one who determines his success at the next level. If the pro I was such a great indicator of success, what about blair thomas and kijana carter as "busts" in the NFL? Likewise, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Boller, etc. played primarily from under center (and this is no shot on Jeff Tedford, although only Aaron Rodgers seems on his way to a great NFL career -- I have my opinions on that, but we'll save that for another post).
"Making it" at the next level, to me, is not reliant on systems; strong fundamental teaching, the proper skill set, and mental and physical toughness are more often determining factors.
On a side note, I find it sort of funny that people still refer to the "Pro" offense as a ball control, running system; I consider myself a "pro style" guy, which to me means similar to what you actually see on Sunday: lots of personnel groups, shifting, motion, and sophisticated passing. "pro I" seems antiquated; how often do you actually see an NFL team come out and line up in the I? A few times a game, but definitely not a majority of its snaps.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 27, 2009 15:09:25 GMT -6
BTW, Graham Harrel was the first recruited QB to start for Tech since Leach got there, the others were walk ons. That is why they haven't done anything in the pros. Kliff Kingsbury was NOT a walk on...he was one of the top HS QBs in Texas
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 27, 2009 15:02:59 GMT -6
el campo texas -- home of Tyson King
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 13, 2009 18:05:04 GMT -6
The way you practice hurts your defense. The way you coach hurts your defense. Your offense doesn't hurt your offense if you ask me. The school I use to coach at went from a punishing rushing team/hard hitting defense to a spread and an "aggressive" style defense. The results have been mixed. Many people feel the team isn't as physical as they need to be or had been in the past and blame the spread. We have had some players transfer from this school and have talked to some of their coaches. They are not soft because of their offense, they are soft because they wear helmets and shoulder pads and don't hit all week. So it's not your system it's what you do Mon-Thrs in my opinion that will hurt you the most. BINGO!!! perception is NOT reality... wearing cowboy boots don't make you a cowboy ... I agree with this. I consider my identity to be that of a passing game guy -- but we've had a physical 9 on 7 run hull and a physical blitz period every place I've coached. The last place I coached had a 3500 yard passer, but also a big 'ol FB and O Line, and our best run was the power. Bottom line -- i think i worked with head coaches that did a good job of instilling toughness. So, we'd get in and out of sets ranging from 2 tight, two back to 5 wides and dictated to the defense. The was passing game was very diverse and sophisticated, but the run game was hard nosed and downhill. Because we were in gun 70% of the time people labled us spread, but we could also run for 200 when we needed to. I think it's about exerting the maximum amount of pressure on the other team, not just defensively, but offensively as well...put the other offense in a mindset that they need to score a bunch just to stay in the game.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 10, 2009 9:34:23 GMT -6
we are very fortunate here in texas to have an athletic period. all our coaches are in the period. it's a class. there are no "expectations" other than to be a coach ... we are fortunate. now, we have to give up some things in the summer (a little) that other states have but i wouldn't trade it for what we got. Amen to that. Plus, with power lifting and track, you're able to have QB School
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 8, 2009 15:39:34 GMT -6
HS - winning 13 straight games to win a state championship after losing the 1st 3 games of the season (all within the last two minutes)...beating the 2 time defending state champion in the final 31-13
College - making the travel squad after walking on as a no-talent scout team player for the previous 3 years, and being in on the kneel down play to cap a come from behind victory in a bowl game (my last as a senior)
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 8, 2009 11:09:45 GMT -6
Trooper Taylor is a very good recruiter, no doubt...a little of a BSer, but my dealings with him have been overall positive and he's a quality WR coach (I knew him back in the Tulane days)
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 7, 2009 9:57:59 GMT -6
Henning ran the old Redskins system until he was OC at Buffalo in 97. After that, he was re-acquainted with Parcells as QB coach of the Jets, and since has used the same system/ terminology in Carolina and Miami that the Patriots and Notre Dame use.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 6, 2009 22:07:11 GMT -6
He's running an advanced version of Ron Erhardt's passing game, which is where the Patriots, Dolphins, Panthers, and Cardinals current systems are rooted. Thats what he ran in Jax, SD, Buffalo, and now in NY. He still runs choice (although I think Coughlin calls it Read), Switch, etc. I got "total acess" at training camp in BUffalo the first year there, and it was awfully exciting to see them installing with some really good weapons at the time. It would be more exciting to me, however, to see him get a chance with a team that has a chance of success.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 6, 2009 10:02:20 GMT -6
So you're saying he should have turned down the chance for a TD, and given Texas the ball and the chance to dictate -- a TD or a field goal? I think you are reaching...
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Post by dg1694 on Feb 20, 2008 17:22:06 GMT -6
Never heard of charging anyone to talk ball. Having someone come to your place, provide playbooks/ game sheets, and install an offense for your staff is another matter.
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 18, 2008 11:05:04 GMT -6
BROPHY - I meant the latter. Also, "council" (and pardon the typo) may also be used as a verb - i.e. "To council a person on a matter." I apologize for a poorely formulated question. What I was trying to ask, is if you have a good prospect (mental and physical) do you advise him to go to a place where he is going to get good coaching. For example, if I had been Vince Young's coach or Michael Vick's coach I would never have advised them to go to the schools where they went. The coaching at that position is just not very good, particularly when compared to what other, albeit lesser known programs have to offer. Why would you, as a high school coach, have advised VY not to go to Texas? Because he wasn't going to win? Because they arent productive on offense? Because he won't get the chance to stay at QB? Because, because of poor coaching, he won't get drafted highly, and thus never be rookie of the year, or finally help get a bad team back to the playoffs? First off, Greg Davis is a very good QB coach. I've been around him more than just at the convention. One of my former teammates, who is now a surgeon, still calls him the best teacher he's ever had, regardless of subject matter. Basically, are you saying you won't advise a kid to go to unless it's going to do what -- not get him in the Hall of Fame? So you would rather him go to where -- Valdosta State? And where would he be now? Would his life be better? Isn't that the charge of a coach giving advice to a kid?
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Post by dg1694 on Jan 15, 2008 17:03:14 GMT -6
Scheme-wise, I don't think there was a problem. Norm is a very good coach and can adjust accordingly. IMO, the problem was that they have the worst WRs in the NFL.
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