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Post by joelee on Sept 11, 2019 15:15:23 GMT -6
I've been blessed to coach on some great and deep staffs. The one thing I'd like to learn more is quality practice planning with only 3 coaches. Anyone have recommendations or templates or both?
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Post by joelee on Aug 2, 2019 21:25:51 GMT -6
Question for you guys. Why isn't the band director expected to bust his butt and recruit 200 kids to the campus? I just watched the bit of the 2 music kids sit there and whine about the facility and the instruments, then throw football under the bus. It gets on my nerves personally. This is no defense of JB at all. It just happens that his only skill is recruiting. Does anyone agree with me or have an explanation why the band guy isn't going out and getting 200 kids to make money for the school? What about the drama department? I think the band director got laid off. That's not an answer. Before he got laid off. Why wasn't the band director recruiting 200 kids to the campus to make money?
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Post by joelee on Aug 2, 2019 17:24:55 GMT -6
Question for you guys. Why isn't the band director expected to bust his butt and recruit 200 kids to the campus? I just watched the bit of the 2 music kids sit there and whine about the facility and the instruments, then throw football under the bus. It gets on my nerves personally. This is no defense of JB at all. It just happens that his only skill is recruiting. Does anyone agree with me or have an explanation why the band guy isn't going out and getting 200 kids to make money for the school? What about the drama department?
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Post by joelee on May 2, 2019 8:53:46 GMT -6
Most people are going to say something like, "this isn't tennis", If you have 1500 students and have 18 on the roster that's a YOU problem. And they could easily be wrong, because they don't know the local demographics. If you have an especially high proportion of students from places where American football is uncommon, you've got to expect low recruiting. Then you don't get to expect to be very good unless you get in a generational coach/administrative team and change things. You don't get to play "down" in games that matter. If you can schedule some wins for yourself in non league play by all means go for it.
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Post by joelee on May 2, 2019 7:09:21 GMT -6
Most people are going to say something like, "this isn't tennis", If you have 1500 students and have 18 on the roster that's a YOU problem.
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Post by joelee on Apr 11, 2019 12:45:19 GMT -6
I once paraphrased the quote from Moby Dick in a pre-game speech. Low voice early talking about preparation and grit, slowly rising to a finale where I yelled "and if my heart was a cannon I'd shoot it at them!" I don't think more that 2 of the kids knew what I was talking about.
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Post by joelee on Mar 25, 2019 13:51:58 GMT -6
I thought it would be the x and o's. It turned out to be the stories, the jokes, the team meals, watching kids grow up. The picture perfect days in the sun in spring and summer, the crisp air in the fall with the falling leaves. The sounds of popping pads and the bands, the feeling of wet turf and the smell of cut grass, and maybe most of all the emotions on Friday night.
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Post by joelee on Mar 21, 2019 9:44:51 GMT -6
I've been on 2 different kind of staffs. Having a different workload for the HC and Coordinators and football junkies is a given. The ones where the guys who don't work as much but don't expect as much end up being fine. The ones where guys don't work as much but want a lot of input/responsibility/respect end up not being fine.
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Post by joelee on Mar 12, 2019 12:55:56 GMT -6
I kind of feel like Jgordon and breakerdog. Balance. Culture 30% Scheme 30% Talented players 30% 10% add in wherever needed for a particular team or situation from year to year.
People who think one area is more than 50% are doing a disservice to their program. That includes the guys who are sitting around waiting for talent to magically fall in their lap so they can win. That includes guys who make x and o's their main identity. And recently that includes the fast talking salesmen who think words win games. I will say that when I was young I used to wonder how the same teams won a lot and printed those shirts that said tradition never graduates. I used to wonder where great players came from and what made coaches great. Eventually I found out culture was the part I couldn't see and I had to get someone to teach it to me. I could see talent. I could see facilities. I couls see and study scheme back in the day by buying books and cd's. I couldn't see culture. I didn't know that THAT is what I didn't know. The Champions play offense ,defense ,and special teams. The champions have talent, schemes, and culture. The champions build teams mental toughness, physical skill, and free them up to perform at a high level. And by champions I don't mean those one off situations where a class comes in and wins one time and then things fall off or the IMG's of the world who aren't really playing hs football but are colleges playing against hs teams.
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Post by joelee on Mar 11, 2019 12:46:58 GMT -6
Maybe it means that they have a pitching rotation going and they won't deviate from it for a regular season win. Maybe they start the season off preaching no breaking balls till later in the year or something like that.
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Post by joelee on Feb 27, 2019 14:54:58 GMT -6
I might be. I live 45 minutes north.
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Post by joelee on Feb 4, 2019 12:35:33 GMT -6
1 comment from the OC. 1 Drive. 3 straight calls of the same pass play. Thats the difference in the game and who holds up the trophy today.
“It was a pretty amazing thing,’’ said Allen, one of the beneficiaries of McDaniels’ invention. “Hats off to the Rams. They really knew us. They played us great. But football’s about in-game adjustments. Josh told us on the sideline, ‘We did not practice this at all coming into this game, and I realize that, but this is going off in my head, and it’s something I think we need to do.’ “
The Patriots had averaged 4.9 yards per play in the first 50 minutes of the game. On this drive, they averaged 13.8. New England played what it considers its athletic big offense, and it worked. Gronkowski beat linebacker Samson Ebukam up the right flank for 18 on first down, then hit Edelman on linebacker Cory Littleton for 13, then Burkhead in the left flat for seven, then Gronkowski between Littleton and Mark Barron down the left seam for 29. Sony Michel subbed in for a two-yard touchdown run. Five plays, 69 yards, TD. Pats, 10-3. -Peter King
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 18:36:36 GMT -6
Applying the Illinois/Michigan system in my state KY would put us back at 4 classes (great) instead of 6 like we have now. I'd do it in a heartbeat if we could use the Ohio Harbin points with it.
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 18:32:01 GMT -6
I'm a big nerd for these things. I love to see how every state does it.
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 14:59:51 GMT -6
I know as a larger state California has advantages that others dont, but the way Southern California used to do things was great (and yes I cite Southern California specifically as California itself is divided into 10 different regions that act basically as their own state entities for sports). How it used to be is teams would get into leagues of about 5-8, these would be nearby schools all approximately the same size. Leagues would be grouped together in groups of 5 into a division (roughly similar ability groups); at the end of the season the top 3 teams from each league would get a playoff spot as well as 1 wildcard. The 1-seeds and top few 2 seeds would get home games and it would be divided as evenly as possible. But then open enrollment poaching became a thing. And a lot of the bigger schools that were just mediocre started to complain about never winning and the playoffs (and since they bring in a lot of money CIF listened); and they went to an equity (everybody gets a trophy) model which punishes success and rewards failure. California could apply Illinois/Michigan system of playoffs with 32 teams in each class. But it would require 16 classes of 32 team tournaments. That would put 512 teams in the playoffs which is slightly less than half. If you want slightly more than half you'd have 17 state champions. It would be pretty weird but it would be equitable with Illinois/Michigan. It might stop some of the player poaching because parents could win a title without going to the select schools.
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 14:46:42 GMT -6
They also use these points for seeding, not just as a tie breaker for seeding. I don't live there but I really like it. Its not a computer per se, just simple calculator math that is transparent and is done on what amounts to an excel sheet. Everyone knows whats up going in and that you have to schedule competitive games and win them.
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 13:57:50 GMT -6
I didn't speak it clearly because I was referencing Illinois and Michigan counting the wins of your entire schedule. I shouldn't have used the word ONLY. Ohio has whats called level 1 points for YOUR wins based on the size of the school you beat. Then level 2 points based on the wins of the teams you beat. The point was they don't get any points for scheduling a 10-0 team and then losing the game. And you get very little reward for beating a 1-9 team in the level 2 points but you do get some in the level 1.
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Post by joelee on Nov 15, 2018 13:08:34 GMT -6
The Illinois system is pretty sound. 256 teams (about half of the schools in Illinois) qualify for the playoffs divided into 32-team brackets across 8 classes. Conference champs and all 6,7,8, and 9-win teams are automatic qualifiers. The remaining spots are filled by 5-win teams that can get an at-large bid if they have enough "playoff points" (opponent wins). I think the cut-off this year was 38 or so. 5-4 teams whose opponents won 38 games got in the playoffs. 5-4 teams whose opponents won less than 38 games did not get in the playoffs. There is a tiebreaker in there, too. Wins of defeated oppoents, I think. There were 18 5-4 that did not make the playoffs this year. After the 256 playoff teams are determined, they are divided into the 8 classes. Smallest 32 schools are 1a, next biggest are 2a...all the way up to 8a. Then teams are seeded in the bracket based on regular season record and playoff points. Most classes have a north-south split (16 teams on the north side of the bracket, 16 teams in the south side of the bracket) except for 7a and 8a which go 1-32 (I think) and that's because most of those schools are located in the suburbs around Chicago. It is a pretty good system but there have been criticisms: 1) About 15 years ago, the state high school association determined that the state champion would be a true representative of the entire state. What this meant is that the playoffs were set up so that the state title game would feature a team from the southern part of the state and a team from the northern part of the state, at least in classes 1a-6a. So, the two "best" teams in a class don't necessarily meet in the state title game. Often, the biggest games featuring the most talented teams occur in the quarterfinals or semifinals or even on occasion in the 2nd round. As a result, there have been some boring blowout state title games over the years (but some really great ones, too). 2) Seeding. It is all done by the numbers. Your seed comes down to your record and your playoff points. The result is that sometimes, teams with higher seeds have much tougher paths than teams with lower seeds. Case in point. Our team was the #3 seed in the bracket. We easily won our 1st-round playoff game (we were up 56-6 at halftime). However, the #2 seed in the bracket was in a dogfight and needed a touchdown within the last minute of the game to advance. The #1 seed in the bracket, the defending state 2a champion, has a very tough path. They are playing a team this week that has a couple FBS commits and if they win that game, they will be probably be playing a perennial Catholic football factory in the quarterfinals. 3) Interesting map reading. Ever year, it seems that there are a handful of teams that should clearly go either north or south but they end up going the opposite direction. Like I said...it is a pretty good system but it has issues, too. larrymoe ...did I miss anything? Michigan is almost identical. 6 wins & you are in! 5-4 it is based on playoff points. After 256 teams are are determined, they are then grouped by size into 8 Divisions of 32, then into Regions of 8, then into Districts of 4 & finally seeded based on playoff points. The only big complaint is that everyone who isn’t a state title contender is always trying to schedule 6 wins & try hard to dodge any quality opponents outside of their league/conference. One thing that Ohio does really well is that you only get to count the WINS of the teams you BEAT. This keeps teams from simply scheduling as weak as they can to get to 6 wins.
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Post by joelee on Nov 14, 2018 10:23:14 GMT -6
The top team in our league had a 2nd round playoff game last Friday at their place. Came back from down 21-7 to have the lead 28-27 late in the 4th. The opponent gets the ball, goes on a drive, and ends up with 1st & goal from the 1 with under a minute to play. The QB was the receiver and had run for 200+ yards and thrown for 150+, he'd had a good night. They got cute and tried to do something they hadn't done all night, shift into an unbalanced line. But the OL had already put their hands down. -5 on the penalty. Then turned around and tried the exact same thing again, same result, -5. Now 1st & 10 from the 11. Run, nothing. Run, +2, 3rd down they throw a pick in the end zone. Home team runs out the clock.
I've talked with a couple of folks that were at the game and they were just baffled by what the visitors did. Said there was no reason to get fancy right then, they had the size and the athletic QB, and they had a kicker that had done well on the PAT's.
I generally don't blame coaches for wins/losses, generally either decided before the 1st kickoff (mismatch) or it's turnovers or other on-field actions. But this seems to be a 'What the heck were you thinking' kind of thing.
Just baffled here.
I watched this game live on NFHS... the visitors flat out choked from poor discipline --- side note -- yes, I am a degenerate and was watching playoff games not in my section on a Friday night... The home team was trying to LET THEM SCORE! so they could get the ball back it looked Here is the breakdown of what went down Visitors get the ball they are moving the ball kinda TD called by for chop block at 3:02 Run to 2 yard line called back for penalty at 1:46 3rd and 15 they complete a long pass - 1st and goal at 9 they huddle... break huddle into unbalanced right double tight with power I right backfield... LG is late to align in his spot... Home teams is as confused with no one aligned on the LOS between LG and right TE!!! They run a double lead play strong... no one is trying to tackle him except for one kid who makes the play at the 1!!! Kids are talking to each other ad it looks like they are telling the tackler he was supposed to let the guy score... Home team takes a TO... Visitors were all lined up in the same unbalanced set to run another play when this happened... *** this is crazy*** The visitors do not huddle but run straight to the line following the TO and the QB runs sneak .... BUT THE DANG RT WAS NEVER SET AND THE DANG DEFENSE OFFERED NO RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QB just rushed the play... They were in the same formation as the play before... FALSE START!!!! FB is seen kneeling with hands in face screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO now they move the ball back 5 yards... Home team is staring at coaches to see if they should let them score still or not... they all make an X with their arms... looks to me as if they are going to let them score again haha Visitors align in UNBALANCED LEFT but they never get set AGAIN!!! kids were confused and someone flinches haha false start again now on the 11 yard line... 2nd and 11 - defense is now defending again Unbalanced left - toss play strong for -1 yards... Home team TO Same formation but now they flex the strong TE to the left - short side/boundary PA fade... INTERCEPTED game over... wow horrible discipline costs them a playoff win... COULD NOT BELIEVE IT I just rewatched it ...looked worse now... haha Sounds like the kids blew it. Thats not in game coaching. If you want to blame the coaches you have to blame the preparation and discipline aspect. But the kids blew it on the field.
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Post by joelee on Nov 13, 2018 8:21:06 GMT -6
Ohio: Marian Local Coldwater Minster Indiana: Western Boone Linton-Stockton Adams Central TN: Union City Peabody Greenback
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Post by joelee on Oct 29, 2018 8:52:30 GMT -6
In our state i've seen 2 things happening. When a school is a "have not" kids just decide they aren't going to bother playing for that team and they become even more "have not". In a similar vein many teams here lack mental toughness and either decide before the game who is going to win or at the first sign of adversity the scores begin to snowball. Its been a trend here at least over the last 5 years.
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Post by joelee on Oct 26, 2018 9:17:17 GMT -6
Assistants: coach your position group. Talk to the other position coaches if you see something that's not quite right. Coordinators: coach your position group and all of the positions on your side of the ball. Make sure that you and the assistants are on the same page before hand. Head coaches: coach everyone as you see fit. We adhere to this with the addition that all coaches can coach behavior and effort standards we have established on all players.
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Post by joelee on Oct 22, 2018 7:45:11 GMT -6
Had only 2 seniors in 2016. Both of them came to our school as juniors, so we essentially lost an entire class. Struggled that year. Lost in overtime in the semi's in 2017. How does that happen? How is there an entire class that decides not to play at a winning program?
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Post by joelee on Oct 17, 2018 11:15:17 GMT -6
You can't call kids names and cuss at them directly. What the f are you doing? is light years removed from you are a p---y.
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Post by joelee on Oct 15, 2018 13:50:47 GMT -6
I'm not trying to be smart here but, why are you 2-4 and why are they 5-2?
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Post by joelee on Sept 20, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -6
Damn 2nd year still on Diet Coke duty? Better find a 1st year Coach to bring in next season! I consider it an honor. Sometimes they have Coke Zero and then I get something out of it. I always sneak down a few pieces of chocolate from the "hospitality suite" too. (where the AD, Supe, and friends sit) We used to have a dad that ran our camera. When I was OC upstairs he used to bring me a diet Dr.Pepper "up" to the box every week.
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Post by joelee on Sept 13, 2018 9:01:26 GMT -6
So can we all get on board with sugar free syrup thats been chilled?
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Post by joelee on Sept 5, 2018 11:34:02 GMT -6
Unfortunately one year we played a team we shouldn't have scheduled and the HC comes up to The white hat and our HC and asks "is it ok if we start the running clock when it gets to 21?" They all agreed.
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Post by joelee on Aug 9, 2018 18:28:12 GMT -6
In our state practice started something like 27 days ago. That's a lot of running to make up.
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Post by joelee on Jul 8, 2018 18:50:12 GMT -6
You can learn on here. You just have to put up with some stuff. Also dig in the old threads.
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