humble
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Post by humble on Aug 15, 2018 8:57:44 GMT -6
I coach WR's and DB's and I'm an eye for what looks we are getting from the defense when we are on O. Also an eye if their O is doing anything different than what we seen on film and if they run a TE in or out etc.
We use hudl sideline so I typically just use the iPad for everything. Wondering if you guys that are in a position like mine bring any charts or anything to help with what you are doing up there.
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Post by stilltryin on Aug 15, 2018 10:35:44 GMT -6
I'm on the defensive side (DBs) ... charting every play as it happens, so late second quarter when the HC/DC asks what they've been doing on second-and-long or third-and=short, I can rattle them right off to him. otherwise, unless asked for something specific, just keeping him up to speed on down-and-distance and ... often most important ... personnel changes that tell us something about what might be coming next.
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Post by Coach Vint on Aug 15, 2018 13:08:57 GMT -6
We have specific roles in the box. 1 coach charts offense, another charts defense. We have a guy watching the far side secondary and a guy watching far side box. They identify the front and draw up defensive looks. We have a coach on defense watching the far side receivers. Another guy on defense calls out the personal grouping, down and distance, and run/pass percentage. He has to be sharp. Depending on how many guys you have in the box you can adjust assignments.
I have a guy charting our offensive plays, and I have him read the last series back to me quickly. I ask another coach to give me fronts and coverage. What I want from them is to paint a clear picture of what the defense is doing. They must be disciplined to watch their assigned area and not watch the ball.
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Post by klaby on Aug 17, 2018 12:20:05 GMT -6
So you are charting their defense and their offense? Hmmmm. Each member of our staff is responsible for charting their defense based on specific positions. I have the DB's and Safeties. But or WR coach focuses on DBs alone, OL coach has the DL, RB coach has the LBers, OC has the DL and LBers. We collaborate when we are on D to make sure we are all seeing the same thing. Then adjust from there.
And you are coaching both WR and DB on at the varsity level....thats one too many hats, how can you in game adjust if you instantly now must coach the DBs, then switch back to the WRs....
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humble
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Post by humble on Sept 11, 2018 7:09:56 GMT -6
Yes I coach both, DB's (safeties and corners) as well as the WR's and special teams coordinator lol. I Look at past defensive plays during possession changes. I look at their coverages and fronts in between offensive plays. I have a guy up there with me that charts our offense. I don't chart anything, I don't have time. I just have the iPad to go back and look when needed.
As far as adjustment goes there isn't a whole lot of adjustment needed for secondary. We base our coverage on what they line up in. Only adjustments we usually have to make in the secondary is reminding a player to align a certain way.
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Post by dytmook on Sept 11, 2018 11:19:56 GMT -6
I figured the fronts we were seeing and ate peanut M&M's
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 13, 2018 8:04:02 GMT -6
PM me and I can send a sample/generic spreadsheet chart I used for the defense. I usually tinker with it and make it specific to the team we play that week, but this one will be the generic starting point.
I just put a tic mark in each box and bring it down at half. I use it to compare to the hudl report during the game. At half time I use a different colored pen to visually represent any half time changes.
Back when I charted for the offense, I would make sheets for the formations that we would run, and at the tope I had that drawn up versus how I thought the would align and the plays we would run from that look. Underneath were 8 smaller drawings of that formation to draw how they actually were looking verse us.
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Post by cfoott on Sept 14, 2018 18:25:22 GMT -6
We have specific roles in the box. 1 coach charts offense, another charts defense. We have a guy watching the far side secondary and a guy watching far side box. They identify the front and draw up defensive looks. We have a coach on defense watching the far side receivers. Another guy on defense calls out the personal grouping, down and distance, and run/pass percentage. He has to be sharp. Depending on how many guys you have in the box you can adjust assignments. I have a guy charting our offensive plays, and I have him read the last series back to me quickly. I ask another coach to give me fronts and coverage. What I want from them is to paint a clear picture of what the defense is doing. They must be disciplined to watch their assigned area and not watch the ball. Do you have a form you use to chart?
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Post by nstanley on Sept 16, 2018 8:58:35 GMT -6
We had two coaches in the box. One on the offensive phones and one on the defensive. The offensive coach was to give info only: distance to go after each play, alignments of the dl, and who made the tackle the previous play. I had other coaches on the field watch linebackers or their secondary. I had someone chart our play calling on the field as well.
Defensively, we'd chart their offense, help identify formations and whether or not the defense was aligning properly and then of course, provide the DC on the field feedback on if someone was getting "kilt" or not following their assignments, etc.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 16, 2018 13:16:46 GMT -6
Depth eyes leverage of DBs. Check releases .. all the basic {censored}.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 16, 2018 13:18:36 GMT -6
If you are fortunate enough to coach in venues where the press box is an actual press box (and therefore often has snacks) it is critical that you inform the coaches on the field of things they are missing. Bring supervising coaches (HC, coordinators if you are not one) some of the goodies.
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Post by fantom on Sept 16, 2018 15:26:17 GMT -6
If you are fortunate enough to coach in venues where the press box is an actual press box (and therefore often has snacks) it is critical that you inform the coaches on the field of things they are missing. Bring supervising coaches (HC, coordinators if you are not one) some of the goodies. . And, if the weather is bad tell the sideline guys how bad you feel for them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:29:51 GMT -6
When its hot out you tell them how cold it is up there in the air conditioned box (even if it isnt), when its Cold you tell them its so damn warm in that box you dont even need a jacket, or the extra ones you brought just in case, then when they b!tch you tell them "hold on the pizza guy is here "
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Post by nicku on Sept 16, 2018 16:02:39 GMT -6
If you are fortunate enough to coach in venues where the press box is an actual press box (and therefore often has snacks) it is critical that you inform the coaches on the field of things they are missing. Bring supervising coaches (HC, coordinators if you are not one) some of the goodies. I am the new kid on staff in my 2nd year, one of my gameday duties is to bring the HC a diet coke down from the booth at halftime.
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Post by Coach Vint on Sept 17, 2018 13:05:16 GMT -6
We have specific roles in the box. 1 coach charts offense, another charts defense. We have a guy watching the far side secondary and a guy watching far side box. They identify the front and draw up defensive looks. We have a coach on defense watching the far side receivers. Another guy on defense calls out the personal grouping, down and distance, and run/pass percentage. He has to be sharp. Depending on how many guys you have in the box you can adjust assignments. I have a guy charting our offensive plays, and I have him read the last series back to me quickly. I ask another coach to give me fronts and coverage. What I want from them is to paint a clear picture of what the defense is doing. They must be disciplined to watch their assigned area and not watch the ball. Do you have a form you use to chart? Simple excel spreadsheet. Play number, down, distance, hash, yard line, formation, motion, play, result. I have another guy charting touches, big plays, bad plays, again on an excel spreadsheet. You can create one in 5 minutes with what you will need in a game.
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Post by coacho57 on Sept 18, 2018 10:04:46 GMT -6
With the replay software we have, I am essentially looking at an Ipad for a large portion of the game. Getting the defensive fronts for our offense and seeing what adjustments we need to make while our team in on defense. Then when we go to the offense I am watching our offense and seeing what looks we are getting live. After each series, I compare notes and see what changes need to be made.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 18, 2018 13:05:52 GMT -6
I am usually up there cussing so no one, at least not as many people can hear me.
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Post by brophy on Sept 18, 2018 13:24:10 GMT -6
If you're "in the booth" and not calling plays, your primary role is to feed the guy calling the plays with information he needs to hear (that's your real job up there). If the guy you're giving information doesn't tell you what to feed him, just reiterate the obvious (spot, d&d, time if is relevant and TO count). Here is a breakdown of useful information from the box brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2010/01/game-communication.htmlspot relevant substitutions/injuries State the Obvious Reminders Ball Distribution Play Charting Tendencies Opponent Clues Real Time Stats
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Post by jlenwood on Sept 19, 2018 3:40:30 GMT -6
If you are fortunate enough to coach in venues where the press box is an actual press box (and therefore often has snacks) it is critical that you inform the coaches on the field of things they are missing. Bring supervising coaches (HC, coordinators if you are not one) some of the goodies. This is the most important role of a box coach!! Also, your responsibility is to inform the coaches on the field about what plays the coaches in the bleachers are calling for and suggesting....because that s**t always works!
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Post by CS on Sept 19, 2018 5:02:58 GMT -6
Have a chart coach for d/d and play type.
Coach on the headset relaying info to me and stuff he’s seeing on the field that I just can’t from the sideline.
He also has the hudl sideline and tells me what play #s to look at with the players for adjustments
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Post by cwaltsmith on Sept 19, 2018 6:33:38 GMT -6
If you're "in the booth" and not calling plays, your primary role is to feed the guy calling the plays with information he needs to hear (that's your real job up there). If the guy you're giving information doesn't tell you what to feed him, just reiterate the obvious (spot, d&d, time if is relevant and TO count). Here is a breakdown of useful information from the box brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2010/01/game-communication.htmlspot relevant substitutions/injuries State the Obvious Reminders Ball Distribution Play Charting Tendencies Opponent Clues Real Time Stats Great article !
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Post by Coach Vint on Sept 19, 2018 8:39:27 GMT -6
One of the greatest things you can see from upstairs is when an opponent gets hurt. A couple weeks ago our box guys saw our opponent's corner getting taped up while we were on defense. We went right at him on the first play as he was still limping. We also spend a lot of time looking at personnel on Saturday and Sunday. If we know a team has a backup that is not very good, I want to know when he is in so we can attack him.
For defensive guys personnel is vital. Is it 12, 11, 10, 21, 22? This helps them to make calls.
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Post by rsmith627 on Sept 19, 2018 9:11:43 GMT -6
Charting their offense. Where they're running and passing most frequently. Every now and then I pick up a cool tendency that isn't on my sheet.
For example I figured out one team was running shirt side A Gap on every first down. Pretty useful information.
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Post by gpcoach on Sept 19, 2018 9:27:02 GMT -6
If you are fortunate enough to coach in venues where the press box is an actual press box (and therefore often has snacks) it is critical that you inform the coaches on the field of things they are missing. Bring supervising coaches (HC, coordinators if you are not one) some of the goodies. I am the new kid on staff in my 2nd year, one of my gameday duties is to bring the HC a diet coke down from the booth at halftime. Damn 2nd year still on Diet Coke duty? Better find a 1st year Coach to bring in next season!
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coachrj
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Post by coachrj on Sept 19, 2018 11:09:01 GMT -6
As a young d-line coach, my job was to babble into the DC's headset that was always around his neck (never on his ears) While he was screaming at the defense. Moved to offense the next year.
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Post by larrymoe on Sept 19, 2018 12:32:41 GMT -6
I check out the crowd to find the hot moms and relay useless facts and funny stories to the DC while we watch our offense average 3 points over 3 weeks.
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Post by coachnight on Sept 20, 2018 10:59:15 GMT -6
Im just jealous of all you guys that have someone that can give relevant information. Small school, small staff. We are lucky if we have someone to film one angle, let alone use our endzone cam. And the hudl sideline (Which arrived during Week 2), is still in test phase.
Things on the field are much better however!
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Post by 33coach on Sept 20, 2018 11:10:16 GMT -6
Im just jealous of all you guys that have someone that can give relevant information. Small school, small staff. We are lucky if we have someone to film one angle, let alone use our endzone cam. And the hudl sideline (Which arrived during Week 2), is still in test phase. Things on the field are much better however! its all organization..even with 3 coaches you can have a good setup...example: 1 coach in booth - communicate D&D, Count 11, any scouting info 2 coaches on field
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Post by nicku on Sept 20, 2018 13:28:21 GMT -6
I am the new kid on staff in my 2nd year, one of my gameday duties is to bring the HC a diet coke down from the booth at halftime. Damn 2nd year still on Diet Coke duty? Better find a 1st year Coach to bring in next season! I consider it an honor. Sometimes they have Coke Zero and then I get something out of it. I always sneak down a few pieces of chocolate from the "hospitality suite" too. (where the AD, Supe, and friends sit)
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Post by joelee on Sept 20, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -6
Damn 2nd year still on Diet Coke duty? Better find a 1st year Coach to bring in next season! I consider it an honor. Sometimes they have Coke Zero and then I get something out of it. I always sneak down a few pieces of chocolate from the "hospitality suite" too. (where the AD, Supe, and friends sit) We used to have a dad that ran our camera. When I was OC upstairs he used to bring me a diet Dr.Pepper "up" to the box every week.
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