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Post by joelee on Jul 7, 2018 9:45:55 GMT -6
One thing that people haven't mentioned but it happens here in my state. I'm not taking a job that doesn't have/contract a certified medical athletic trainer. If they don't have that the program is not important to the school and the welfare of the kids isn't important enough to the admin.
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Post by joelee on May 21, 2018 13:09:11 GMT -6
I taught and coached at my current school for 2 years living in an apartment during the week. Drove here on Sunday afternoon for staff meetings and most weeks didn't go back home till Friday after the game. When my wife finally got a job here we put our house on the market for less than a month before it sold thank GOD.
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Post by joelee on Apr 30, 2018 17:06:44 GMT -6
Prep team
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Post by joelee on Apr 23, 2018 11:52:25 GMT -6
I think you will find plenty of support for NOT static stretching, providing you have a proper warm up period. Heck, you could easily flip your concerns and say that someone might question your approach for using outdated practices if you static stretch prior to practices and games. Outdated, maybe but most major sports, including the NCAA, and NFL still do, if anyone's progressive its those major markets, arguments may be made either way, but Ill err on the side of caution. I have been to 3 NFL games the last 3 years, including showing up an hour early because we were attending stadiums we had never been to. Not once did I ever see anyone do a static stretch. Indianapolis VS Jacksonville, Washington vs Cleveland, Atlanta vs Buffalo. zero static stretches.
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Post by joelee on Apr 10, 2018 17:35:33 GMT -6
Anybody employed by your school who charges money to your students should be let go. While I don’t agree with the situation described earlier, I also disagree with that broad and general statement. Can you expand?
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Post by joelee on Apr 10, 2018 14:57:41 GMT -6
We've a group of 4 rising seniors that I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get them to come out and run track for me. They're all terrific football players, but they would all be better served with some speed because WHO WOULDN'T BE. It's been frustration for the last two months. I see them training with one of our JV assts (who is a certified trainer) last Saturday at our field. Talking to them yesterday, I ask how much they're paying for that. $20 a session, but "it's worth it, he's helped me so much with my 40 times!" TRACK IS FREE AND WHAT THE F*** DO YOU THINK WE DO WITH THE SPRINTERS??? Anybody employed by your school who charges money to your students should be let go.
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Post by joelee on Mar 7, 2018 10:47:40 GMT -6
I remember which school I was at when I discovered this site...one of the best professional years of my life and man it feels like a lifetime ago... ditto
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Post by joelee on Feb 1, 2018 12:01:46 GMT -6
Enthusiasm more important than physical toughness, yes. More important than mental toughness, no.
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Post by joelee on Jan 6, 2018 19:25:39 GMT -6
"Struggling" is a relative term. But teams that are in that 2-3 wins a year or less range have a basic blueprint: 1. An admin that has little commitment to athletics/is afraid of making unpopular choices. 2. Poorly run/attended strength & conditioning program. 3. Toxic player culture that lacks discipline & accountability. 4. Poorly organized. 5. Fundamentally & schematically unsound. 4 & 5 are actually easy fixes, but 1 is the most important. If you don't have 1 you will struggle to fix 2 & 3. Man, double like this post.
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Post by joelee on Jan 5, 2018 9:24:06 GMT -6
I'd agree they get better athletes. Patterson is a really good college coach. Saban and them are schematically on an NFL level though. Maybe I was watching a different game than you. Here is what i saw in the Rose Bowl. Kirby Smart comes out in the 3-4 runs all sorts of coverages, fronts, looks (very NFLish and half the time they weren't gap sound). GETS TORCHED way worse than TCU did in their 2 games in a half of football. Second Half adjustment: 4-2 Box / Man Free with some 3 match thrown in. Which is code for "my guys are better than yours." 3rd Qtr they completely shut down OU. That isn't NFL scheming and no it wasn't because they have some crosser matchup scheme that Patterson isn't aware of. The thing that was puzzling to me is why did man free stump them for 4 drives in a row? They had seen it with the same type personnel from Ohio state earlier in the year.
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Post by joelee on Jan 4, 2018 11:40:06 GMT -6
I know enough about both to have an educated opinion. Beyond looking at a playbook I have listened to many of these guys talk and teach. That's how I know what I know about who is on who's level. And that was the genesis of this anyway, Gary Patterson talking and dominating a room of winning football coaches. Everyone on this board has access to both Sabans playbook and Pattersons stuff. Maybe there is a group of us on here who think being a great DC goes beyond playbooks. (I am still not conceding that Pattersons X and O's are inferior in any way.) If you knew enough about both you would know where they rank. Gary Patterson is better than everybody in that room. There is no doubt. I like Patterson, but he's not on that level. Having access doesn't mean you understand the material. Wow, you are awesome. Have a nice life.
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Post by joelee on Jan 4, 2018 11:37:36 GMT -6
I enjoyed when Applewhite called out Patterson for having their defenders always look at their wrist band when they were bringing pressure. It looked like Patterson was a little embarrassed but did not deny it. I do not know the story, but it sounds like when TCU first started using the wrist band system on defense, offensive teams caught on to this and knew when they were bringing pressure. That was a cool anecdote. I thought Patterson did the best job of pointing things out. Thought Bielma and Holgorsen were next best. It is an enjoyable way to watch the games. I'm glad ESPN does it. One of those unintended consequences you get when you try something for the first time or "invent" it. The evolution then is either put every call on the band or no calls on the band. You sometimes don't think of those details till later, when you are experimenting.
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Post by joelee on Jan 4, 2018 10:54:43 GMT -6
I agree. Complex doesn't equal better. Patterson created something. The guys that copy NFL stuff aren't smarter in many cases they are good at copying. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm a copycat. Using the argument that Belichick, Venables, and Brown are better because they are very complicated copycats is not the right way to do justice to how good of coaches they are and why they are good. They are good because they are great teachers, they understand what they are looking at quickly, and they conter move quickly. Patterson is a copycat like you, me, and every other coach. What he does is good. He is a good college coach. Who said what Saban/Smart/Venables/etc are doing is complex or complicated? Can you go ahead and detail for me who did invent the split field divorced front call system then?
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Post by joelee on Jan 4, 2018 10:52:38 GMT -6
**** "Complex - Adjective: Composed of many interconnected parts" In other words: If a defensive system has more interconnected parts (or more ways to skin a particular cat, eg. ways of playing cover 3), it is a more complex defense. In reading your post on the previous page, where you compare Saban's system to Patterson's, you state that Saban changes the way his players defend the opposing offense based on what they throw at them, even if it'd all be the same in other systems. In other words, Saban increases the number of interconnected parts (or what-ifs). You deem that "better" and "at another level than other coaches' defenses", while for me that only comes down to "more complex". It seems that Patterson's defense is "not as complex" as Saban's defense, but not necessarily worse or better, just a different approach. Do you know both Saban’s and Patterson’s system? I know enough about both to have an educated opinion. Beyond looking at a playbook I have listened to many of these guys talk and teach. That's how I know what I know about who is on who's level. And that was the genesis of this anyway, Gary Patterson talking and dominating a room of winning football coaches. Everyone on this board has access to both Sabans playbook and Pattersons stuff. Maybe there is a group of us on here who think being a great DC goes beyond playbooks. (I am still not conceding that Pattersons X and O's are inferior in any way.)
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Post by joelee on Jan 3, 2018 19:15:44 GMT -6
I agree. Complex doesn't equal better. Patterson created something. The guys that copy NFL stuff aren't smarter in many cases they are good at copying. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm a copycat. Using the argument that Belichick, Venables, and Brown are better because they are very complicated copycats is not the right way to do justice to how good of coaches they are and why they are good. They are good because they are great teachers, they understand what they are looking at quickly, and they conter move quickly. Patterson is a copycat like you, me, and every other coach. What he does is good. He is a good college coach. Who said what Saban/Smart/Venables/etc are doing is complex or complicated?Um, you did?
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Post by joelee on Jan 3, 2018 14:57:21 GMT -6
I'd agree they get better athletes. Patterson is a really good college coach. Saban and them are schematically on an NFL level though. Maybe I was watching a different game than you. Here is what i saw in the Rose Bowl. Kirby Smart comes out in the 3-4 runs all sorts of coverages, fronts, looks (very NFLish and half the time they weren't gap sound). GETS TORCHED way worse than TCU did in their 2 games in a half of football. Second Half adjustment: 4-2 Box / Man Free with some 3 match thrown in. Which is code for "my guys are better than yours." 3rd Qtr they completely shut down OU. That isn't NFL scheming and no it wasn't because they have some crosser matchup scheme that Patterson isn't aware of. I agree. Complex doesn't equal better. Patterson created something. The guys that copy NFL stuff aren't smarter in many cases they are good at copying. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm a copycat. Using the argument that Belichick, Venables, and Brown are better because they are very complicated copycats is not the right way to do justice to how good of coaches they are and why they are good. They are good because they are great teachers, they understand what they are looking at quickly, and they conter move quickly.
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Post by joelee on Dec 23, 2017 8:49:48 GMT -6
Statistically every national championship FBS team has had at least 50% of their roster made up of 4 or 5 star Is this right? I think there are only two 5 star qbs in the nation this year. Maybe 50% of their starters? By the way, I am asking. I don’t know. Roster. Every National Championship team since 2005 has had at least 43 four or five star kids on the roster.
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Post by joelee on Dec 22, 2017 14:58:46 GMT -6
Congratulations, well deserved.
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 18:10:24 GMT -6
You didn't answer yet. Do middle school stats matter to you?
I'm curious, do they not to you?
if you get a player in the 9th grade, who physically seems average to you, but then you hear they're middle school coach tell you that actually, they were a great player for them
wouldn't that be useful information to update your opinion of the kid, (its not the end all be all, maybe in the end, its not all the great a nugget of information, but its a nugget of information that you're better off knowing than not knowing)
might you not be more inclined to see what they can do in different situations? maybe it gives you additional ideas for ways to usefully use a kid.
Am I wrong?
They do not matter to me at all. I watched 1 jr high game this year. I have seen 0 stats. I have had 1 conversation with the coach and he said "its a good crop of linemen this year". We are a program that worries about development and what can they do as they grow and mature in our program.
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 11:52:16 GMT -6
Full disclosure. I'm a guy who had a cup of coffee on a college staff. I'm also one of those guys who thinks I can coach a qb pretty well. Last but not least I agree the 1 place you can make hay over the masses is by getting production out of an undervalued qb. It is #1 most mis-evaluated position by college and NFL scouts.
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 11:48:15 GMT -6
Bill Polian, perhaps the best GM in history said "we don't take exceptions, pretty soon your whole roster will be filled with exceptions and you will be in the stands"
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 11:41:50 GMT -6
You can’t coach/teach a kid to be 6’5”, 260# and run a 4.4. Bigger/Faster/Stronger beats Smaller/Slower/Weaker. The other 10 spots on Offense, I am not arguing with you. QB is different. Dont have to be elite physically, really just cant have glaring weaknesses. Top 2 QBs of all time are Joe Montana and Tom Brady. No one wanted Tom, and if Joe came along today he would be hammered. That argument holds up for a Linebacker, it doesnt for a QB You didn't answer yet. Do middle school stats matter to you?
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 10:38:24 GMT -6
Let me ask the OP. Do you care about middle school stats?
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 10:22:14 GMT -6
Statistically every national championship FBS team has had at least 50% of their roster made up of 4 or 5 star players. The star system is far from perfect but its better than most people realize. The one way for a program to punch above their recruiting weight is with an underrated qb and a system for him to produce big.
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 9:50:08 GMT -6
I am saying that stats don't matter for recruiters. They don't. I have coached 13 d1 players and have a few that should get offered next year. No recruiter has EVER asked me about any of their stats. TD's, yards, tackles, pancakes, interceptions, blocking grade, whatever. They are recruiting measurables and tools. They have to have the required grades and ACT. They have to have a decent recommendation from me about work ethic and character and coach-ability. That is about it. By the way, from what it is worth, I watched less than a minute of his highlight tape. That is a d1 qb. Not surprised in the least that he is getting offers. Div 1 QB for sure. I am not arguing that. Kid has all the measurables. I have coached 11 D1 guys and no one has ever asked either. But... heres the big but.... Why dont our stats matter. Are you not a good coach? College stats matter to NFL. I am saying they should matter more, we are having too many busts from "elite" qbs. What about this kid? www.hudl.com/athlete/o/3972760/highlights/59b446440dc08621741b5d42To me he is the better prospect. Thoughts? He has less arm strength. He has a more filled out frame but looks shorter than the other guy. He looks like he has had better coaching so far. From a college point of view its now a matter of CEILING. Chances are he is closer to as good as he will ever get than the other guy. Can some pure passing coach like Leach take him and light up a scoreboard? Maybe, unless they recruit over him. The throwing motion does actually remind me of Danny Wuerffel. Your last line calling him the better prospect is just not the case. Better player maybe, better prospect by definition, no.
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Post by joelee on Dec 15, 2017 8:06:13 GMT -6
When I look at him without the benefit of a game film or meeting him in person I say "i'd like the chance to coach him". If he's not coachable then i've made a mistake but a lot of these guys offering him probably think they can coach him up better than he was on that film.
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Post by joelee on Nov 30, 2017 14:22:19 GMT -6
If only the Giants coaching staff had spent a larger portion of the past off-season changing the culture of their program this would not have been an issue. Perhaps if they'd have taught the Giant players how to tie a tie or change a tire, this problem could have been avoided. So many cultures to change, so little time.... A little while back I saw a quote from Dan Orlovsky after he retired. It was something like-in the NFL if you change the culture without upgrading the talent, then its just a different way to lose.
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Post by joelee on Nov 21, 2017 12:54:35 GMT -6
We just got knocked out of the playoffs by a team we beat in the regular season. It has happened to me 3 times in 25 years. Far more often we win both games. The way playoffs are structured we have 1 or 2 rematches every year. We lost 2 starters to injury since we played last. They made a lot of adjustments and we had to as well. When you are coaching HS kids you are either getting better or worse every day. You aren't the same team all the time because you aren't coaching robots.
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Post by joelee on Nov 17, 2017 8:44:26 GMT -6
We call them biscuit eaters.
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Post by joelee on Nov 8, 2017 13:56:22 GMT -6
"Killing" football sounds a little dramatic. What do they mean by tier system? Two divisions. Each division broken by previous years records. Move up to tier 1 if your record was "good". Move down if it wasn't so good. Split it down the middle. 1st and 2nd tier both have the opportunity to make the playoffs. I don't have a system in my head. I just know it's something being disguised in our area. Basing the tier on last seasons record is dumb.
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