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Post by throwahitch on Oct 15, 2018 9:21:35 GMT -6
We are 2-4 going to play a 5-2 team. They are ranked 11 in the state. However, we have a 200 pound running back and a 250 pound fullback and run double tight SBV where our line and tight ends average 260. Their biggest kid is 216 Pounds per the roster. They have beaten people by slinging the ball around, and took a team that we beat very lightly last week, and gave up two early scores.
My question is, has anyone ever been in this type of situation and came out on the winning side? What did you do to take advantage of the size?
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Post by canesfan on Oct 15, 2018 11:10:46 GMT -6
We are 2-4 going to play a 5-2 team. They are ranked 11 in the state. However, we have a 200 pound running back and a 250 pound fullback and run double tight SBV where our line and tight ends average 260. Their biggest kid is 216 Pounds per the roster. They have beaten people by slinging the ball around, and took a team that we beat very lightly last week, and gave up two early scores. My question is, has anyone ever been in this type of situation and came out on the winning side? What did you do to take advantage of the size? No but we’ve had it done to us. These teams have often played field position and used all four downs to move the chains until they got the lead. A lot different thinking of getting 2.5 ypp instead of 3.5. They’ve taken the air out of the ball and every mistake we made was magnified because of the time of possession. This year we had it happen to us, and we had the ball for 3 minutes in the first half. They weren’t bigger but that’s the strategy the used. We had two quick turnovers on our first two possessions and were down 19-0 at halftime. One of the best called games I’ve seen in a while. We almost came back and won but man they did an excellent job. They also tried to create extra possessions where they could with kicks. |
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Post by sweep26 on Oct 15, 2018 11:34:23 GMT -6
Put most of your Veer Package on the shelf...tighten your O-Line splits and run the heck out of a Power Based Package.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 15, 2018 11:47:25 GMT -6
Just run your scheme... With the size of your line, you should be getting an excellent push up front which, allowing those big backs to get some running room. They might not be able to rip off 20+ yard runs but you can certainly average 4-5 yards a pop if you have a big, physical OL. Run the hell out of Zone Dive/Gut if you have that scheme installed and just punish them between the tackles.
After that, it comes down to playing sound defense.
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Post by coachnichols on Oct 15, 2018 13:27:39 GMT -6
One of the teams on our schedule has a significant size advantage vs. everyone in the league. They are in double tight Wishbone and run it 95% of the time. Power, sweep, trap...over and over and over.
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Post by joelee on Oct 15, 2018 13:50:47 GMT -6
I'm not trying to be smart here but, why are you 2-4 and why are they 5-2?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 13:57:52 GMT -6
We are 2-4 going to play a 5-2 team. They are ranked 11 in the state. However, we have a 200 pound running back and a 250 pound fullback and run double tight SBV where our line and tight ends average 260. Their biggest kid is 216 Pounds per the roster. They have beaten people by slinging the ball around, and took a team that we beat very lightly last week, and gave up two early scores. My question is, has anyone ever been in this type of situation and came out on the winning side? What did you do to take advantage of the size? I've been in that situation a few times and came out on the winning side. I also had it done to me as a player by our archrival in a game that still hurts to think about 20 years later. You have to put the game on your defense and special teams to keep them out of the endzone while you just focus on punching them in the mouth and hogging the ball on offense. Defensively and on special teams, you need to play with excellent leverage and pursuit. Offensively, just run right at them and hog the ball 3-4 yards at a time. Milk the clock and shorten the game--don't snap the ball until the ref is counting down. Don't do things that may lead to turnovers. Treat anything past the 40 or 50 as 4 down territory because, let's face it, if an offense that's much faster and more athletic than you gets a crease they'll score from 80 yards just as easily as if it was 15. You want to minimize their opportunities so you can stay in the game. One thing I have noticed is that a lot of teams now who are used to seeing spread every week just don't know how to align to full house sets, Tackle Over looks, and WBs who can downblock. Their adjustments to these types of things tend to suck and often leave them vulnerable elsewhere. If you can find those vulnerabilities and stick with the run, you can grind them down and start tearing off some big runs in the 4th. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 16:14:21 GMT -6
Keep them off the field as much as possible , force them into situations they arent great at if you can
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Post by throwahitch on Oct 15, 2018 16:19:14 GMT -6
Put most of your Veer Package on the shelf...tighten your O-Line splits and run the heck out of a Power Based Package. Um no. Gtfo my thread. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 15, 2018 18:38:17 GMT -6
Put most of your Veer Package on the shelf...tighten your O-Line splits and run the heck out of a Power Based Package. Um no. Gtfo my thread. Why? I am hoping I am missing out on an inside joke. That isn't necessarily a horrible strategy at all. If you are getting a decent push with your OL against their undersized DL, but the HOK forces the QB to pull, that push doesn't really help you. If the Pitch key attacks fast, you essentially are running a toss side to side against an undersized but apparently faster team. |
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Post by sweep26 on Oct 15, 2018 18:53:15 GMT -6
Put most of your Veer Package on the shelf...tighten your O-Line splits and run the heck out of a Power Based Package. Um no. Gtfo my thread. "Gtfo" my thread...very classy. So sorry genius. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 16, 2018 7:58:52 GMT -6
Put most of your Veer Package on the shelf...tighten your O-Line splits and run the heck out of a Power Based Package. Um no. Gtfo my thread. WOW! Since you are so much bigger, just throw a hitch. |
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Post by throwahitch on Oct 16, 2018 8:00:52 GMT -6
"Gtfo" my thread...very classy. So sorry genius. Apology accepted. 😉. |
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Post by doitforthekids on Oct 16, 2018 12:08:49 GMT -6
Why? I am hoping I am missing out on an inside joke. That isn't necessarily a horrible strategy at all. If you are getting a decent push with your OL against their undersized DL, but the HOK forces the QB to pull, that push doesn't really help you. If the Pitch key attacks fast, you essentially are running a toss side to side against an undersized but apparently faster team. This! Run behind your size! I'm sure you have answers to "just give it to the FB" when teams take him away. Or QB follows where you block up the "quarterback responsible man". I wouldn't abandon, but would find a way to run behind my size! Don't let them make it a foot race. |
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