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Post by bigmoot on Mar 31, 2017 11:30:00 GMT -6
40 players in the total program? or 40 players on the varsity? We have around 90 players in our program, 9-12, and average around mid-30's on the varsity. We have a way to basically 2-platoon with a handful of crossovers. It is all in how you set up your practice time. The goal is to maximize reps in practice so that the "2nd tier" player (the guy that would be the backup) can get enough time to be on par with the guy that was the starter. Now, that "original" starter may take on an even greater role on his 1-side of the ball and simply crossover to the other side in spots. If you keep your practice time the same - giving each kid the same amount of time on offense as defense - then it won't work. If you adjust the practice so that your "offense primary" or "offense only" kids are getting significantly more time on offense then you have a chance. I am actually speaking on this subject at a clinic later this spring. Once my presentation/notes are done I'll try to remember to post them. 40 9-12
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 31, 2017 6:47:21 GMT -6
It does get really hard at this level to 2 platoon. I am just wondering if anybody has done is successfully. About the best i have ever been able to manage in having the OL only play one way or atleast only be a backup on D. That way they get more time in indy/funds and can be pulled aside to steal group time.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 31, 2017 6:45:09 GMT -6
i would consider small schools (in my state) 250-450 students. Around 40 players a year.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 31, 2017 6:37:00 GMT -6
Youve got to be organized. track who gets it, who turns it in. You have to have a coach with a checklist. cant say "everyone turn your shirts in...", some will keep.
I am finishing my 1st year at a new school. there are so many slap dicks walking around with "MY" stuff on it pisses me off. I am buying a new set of shirts and shorts for the guys that finish spring football and therefore will play in the fall. That stuff is mine and will be tracked. the rest i cant control. to me is a team pride factor, they will let any body wear their stuff...doesnt make sense. One of the things to change.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 30, 2017 18:43:42 GMT -6
I've read several times on here about the benefits of 2 platooning.
My question is how have guys at small schools done this. Has anyone been succesfull. We average around around 35 guys. After drawing up the starting D, there's not much left to build an O with.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 11, 2017 20:29:28 GMT -6
I have found losing playing time is the greatest motivator.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 3, 2017 7:47:48 GMT -6
well it is open to all athletes so we end up with a lot of kids in there that took it because they thought it would be an easy A and are outraged by the fact that they 1. have to lift. and 2. actually have to follow a program. kids got in the class who were not supposed to be able to take the class. Monday one kid got through two lifts in an hour. Also...start sets, stations, rotations on a whistle. Don't give them time to slack off.
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Post by bigmoot on Mar 3, 2017 7:45:22 GMT -6
well it is open to all athletes so we end up with a lot of kids in there that took it because they thought it would be an easy A and are outraged by the fact that they 1. have to lift. and 2. actually have to follow a program. kids got in the class who were not supposed to be able to take the class. Monday one kid got through two lifts in an hour. Make it so tough they are lining up at the registrar's door to drop the class. School has to know that if you are in weights...you work. Got to have administration support in scheduling weight classes. If not you end up what the op has. It can be a cluster.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 28, 2017 18:05:39 GMT -6
There is a point where kids have to be allowed to be kids.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 24, 2017 17:15:28 GMT -6
Right on, coachsmyly! I also hate it when guys home page on Twitter states that he is "husband, coach, father, provider, builder of men, champion of the masses." Then they tweet every time they leave the house and go to work or when they watch Hudl or supervise the weight room. Doing work... Grinding... Putting in work... Jeez. ugh....GRINDING
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 24, 2017 9:15:33 GMT -6
During a school day at the end of last semester my class was watching the state championship games on TV. A few of my seniors who cannot add 2+2 kept going on about how we needed new plays for the next year, as we watched two 14-0 teams run our offense. They had no idea.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 23, 2017 9:54:22 GMT -6
Finding better ways to teach the fundamentals.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 16, 2017 9:56:08 GMT -6
coachcb...short answer, IDK. I have spent the last ten years working to turn around a few programs. One common denominator is that the confidence the kids have is one a knife's edge. Even when playing well, one bad play or a "here we go again moment" can really screw things up. Then some let down, and others begin to try too hard. By thay i mean they try to do it all instead of their job. like a DT trying to tackle the QB on IV instead of squeezing the down block. In trying to do too much they lose focus and stop doiong what they have been coached to do...again I really IDK.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 15, 2017 15:51:22 GMT -6
I agree with this, you show the kids why you lost and then use your practice time to fix those things. At the end of the day, players play and coaches coach. It's your job to put them in position to make a play but it's up to them to make it. But isnt it also your job to teach them HOW to make the plays? If a kid uses poor technique, then you didnt coach him well enough on how to use techniques, if the DT didnt squeeze, you didn't coach him well enough to squeeze. Whatever they do, you either coach it or you allow it. So by that logic the players are never at fault. Any mistake made by a player ultimately comes back to the coach didn't prepare them well enough.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 15, 2017 15:01:08 GMT -6
Depension how it is said. I don't think you say "we lost cause you stink." But if you show them on film the DT didn't squeeze, 5 fumbles, poor technique.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 13, 2017 18:18:24 GMT -6
Dytmook hit a sore spot...
Coaches who get in the food line before the players. I hate this. I had a couple that would jump in the post game line like they were starving. They looked at me like I was crazy when I told them to wait. They actually said "what if there's not enough." I thought they would stroke out when I told them that coaches would do without if there was a shortage. They didn't last long.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 9, 2017 16:04:21 GMT -6
How does one measure morale on film? It's subjective, but there are times you can tell a team is just going through the motions
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 8, 2017 14:20:17 GMT -6
OP...you said you had a large senior class, 26? How much did the current upper class contribute? Have they ever had to be the "man" before? I recently had a class of talented by underacheiving seniors. They had been overshawdowed there entire career (in all sports). They didn't really know how to be the top dogs.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 8, 2017 8:58:19 GMT -6
you may need to make an example out of one of them. also remember, kids need time to be kids.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 6, 2017 12:25:17 GMT -6
Got to see Gerry Gallagher at the wing t clinic in pittsburgh...the one of the best...if you want to learn how to coach the wing t rb or qb, youve got to watch him
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 1, 2017 19:07:01 GMT -6
I would say the biggest thing would be in regard to OL play and pad level/technique I feel the way most NFL/NCAA OL play is with very high pad level Very vertical spines (especially zone teams) We always have 1-2 OL starters around 185-190 lbs that does not work for them so some of the things I teach are technically "wrong" and i know that -yes we are off balanced -yes we fall on our faces some times but the little engine that could type of OL has to be super low to block someone bigger/stronger than them i think we would get killed if we stood up and tried to bench press guys I agree
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 25, 2017 10:21:48 GMT -6
work hard to get more out to have it, played a jv season with 12 kids one year I second that. Was head coach of JV 2 years ago and went 5-3 with 13 kids. They played a ton of football and loved it (though not so much early in the season when it was hotter). We were destroyed by teams that fielded 30+, but the other teams were more like us and only had 15-20 players. Got to find a way to for the young guys to play. If they dont it will kill your program. My current senior class has 4 players. The HCs before me didnt play a JV schedule. Lost many guys as 9th graders who could have contributed as Jrs/Srs.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 25, 2017 9:54:08 GMT -6
In Georgia, a player is limited to 6 quarters a week. COunt starts on Friday night. It is hard at the small schools to field JV teams. A kid might be the backup or play special teams. One play ina qtr counts as a qtr.
One thing the GHSA has done that has helped is to allow teams to play "mini-games". A 2 qtr game versus an opponent. We are able to get our young guys alot of action, but not at the expense of Varsity games.
Several schools in our area group together and have four teams meet at one school. 2 play a half, other 2 play a half. One cost of refs and good crowds for gate and concessions.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 24, 2017 6:59:48 GMT -6
I read on the Glazier Clinic website there is going to be a "Chalk War" at the Atlantic City one. Has anyone ever attended one of these? I guess its a literal "whoever has the chalk last contest?" The room will implode due to the uber-awesomness of the...dare i say it...THE FACEMELTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 22, 2017 9:23:46 GMT -6
Has anyone gotten tired of coaching the same position and needed a change to rejuvenate. I did OL for 20 years. Last two I've done the backfield, I think doing something new has helped my motivation.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 14, 2017 10:23:56 GMT -6
My experience has been...I get very little from big time college coaches. If I had their jimmys and Joes, I could do a lot of s***. I have 35 kids. Really 16 guys who can play. Now help me scheme.... You're also competing against those jimmy and Joe's so it's pretty relative. I get that, but what you are able to do with 11 D1s on defense is alot different than if your FS is 5'6 145 and runs a 4.9.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 13, 2017 20:34:02 GMT -6
My experience has been...I get very little from big time college coaches.
If I had their jimmys and Joes, I could do a lot of s***. I have 35 kids. Really 16 guys who can play. Now help me scheme....
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 12, 2017 5:26:09 GMT -6
Try to have position meetings 1 time a week. Not long or heavy but to keep rules in their heads so we don't have to start over.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 6, 2017 20:50:39 GMT -6
Nothing is worse than a guy presenting a scheme and he shows highlight after highlight of a Walter Payton clone making great plays. If I had that kid, I would be doing the presentation.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 6, 2017 8:41:20 GMT -6
1. program development 2. i really like fundamentals and drills...how do you teach XYZ?
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