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Post by szimm29 on Jan 24, 2017 18:39:45 GMT -6
We lost a good portion of our jv season due to a lack of numbers, now the freshmen from this year's team are talking down the program to the incoming freshmen because they didn't get time. Any advice?
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Post by freezeoption on Jan 24, 2017 18:48:32 GMT -6
work hard to get more out to have it, played a jv season with 12 kids one year
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Post by rosey65 on Jan 25, 2017 6:45:38 GMT -6
How do you "lose because of numbers" yet still have kids not get any PT? We play ALL kids on JV every game. Not the same amount of PT, but everyone gets in. We also have a good number of contributing Soph's up on varsity. We have definitely lost games because of those 2 tactics, but we are able to keep numbers. PT also helps to improve parental support...not that we dont have the drunk uncle or loud mom in the stands, cuz we do, but the parents give more support at home when their child gets in the game.
I think the people to talk to right now, would be the kids talking down the program, especially if they have plans to stay on the team.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 25, 2017 6:58:30 GMT -6
How do you "lose because of numbers" yet still have kids not get any PT? We play ALL kids on JV every game. Not the same amount of PT, but everyone gets in. We also have a good number of contributing Soph's up on varsity. We have definitely lost games because of those 2 tactics, but we are able to keep numbers. PT also helps to improve parental support...not that we dont have the drunk uncle or loud mom in the stands, cuz we do, but the parents give more support at home when their child gets in the game. I think the people to talk to right now, would be the kids talking down the program, especially if they have plans to stay on the team. OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but by lost he means cancelled games. |
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Post by tigerpride on Jan 25, 2017 7:13:48 GMT -6
I am having struggles with JV and Frosh, too. Because of numbers and injuries, I have to pull a few sophomores down to add depth to the frosh. And then I have to bring a few frosh up to add depth to the jv. Some of the teams around here are putting their frosh and sophs together and playing a 'froshmore' season. i like the idea and may decide if my incoming frosh numbers are low. my struggle is that i have 25-30 kids sign up for frosh each year. then we get a couple injuries and a couple other kids quit, and then its nearly impossible to put a competitive team together. there are teams on our schedule that have 40-60 frosh and when you have 17, you take a beating. i dont mind the beating, but i cant deal with kids getting injured and the impact on the program moral. the tough decision is figuring out what is best for your kids and your program.
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Post by carookie on Jan 25, 2017 9:28:22 GMT -6
I am having struggles with JV and Frosh, too. Because of numbers and injuries, I have to pull a few sophomores down to add depth to the frosh. And then I have to bring a few frosh up to add depth to the jv. Some of the teams around here are putting their frosh and sophs together and playing a 'froshmore' season. i like the idea and may decide if my incoming frosh numbers are low. my struggle is that i have 25-30 kids sign up for frosh each year. then we get a couple injuries and a couple other kids quit, and then its nearly impossible to put a competitive team together. there are teams on our schedule that have 40-60 frosh and when you have 17, you take a beating. i dont mind the beating, but i cant deal with kids getting injured and the impact on the program moral. the tough decision is figuring out what is best for your kids and your program. Why not just combine them into one team (get rid of the Frosh)? I was at a small school that had only a varsity and JV; the JV were the varsity backup on Friday nights, and rolled 15-20 deep on Thursdays. We consistently played (and beat) jv teams of 50+ despite our small numbers. Clearly we had a lot of talent at the school, but even if we lost it showed that you can field a competitive team with small numbers. |
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 25, 2017 9:54:08 GMT -6
In Georgia, a player is limited to 6 quarters a week. COunt starts on Friday night. It is hard at the small schools to field JV teams. A kid might be the backup or play special teams. One play ina qtr counts as a qtr.
One thing the GHSA has done that has helped is to allow teams to play "mini-games". A 2 qtr game versus an opponent. We are able to get our young guys alot of action, but not at the expense of Varsity games.
Several schools in our area group together and have four teams meet at one school. 2 play a half, other 2 play a half. One cost of refs and good crowds for gate and concessions.
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Post by coachjjg on Jan 25, 2017 10:13:35 GMT -6
work hard to get more out to have it, played a jv season with 12 kids one year I second that. Was head coach of JV 2 years ago and went 5-3 with 13 kids. They played a ton of football and loved it (though not so much early in the season when it was hotter). We were destroyed by teams that fielded 30+, but the other teams were more like us and only had 15-20 players. |
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 25, 2017 10:21:48 GMT -6
work hard to get more out to have it, played a jv season with 12 kids one year I second that. Was head coach of JV 2 years ago and went 5-3 with 13 kids. They played a ton of football and loved it (though not so much early in the season when it was hotter). We were destroyed by teams that fielded 30+, but the other teams were more like us and only had 15-20 players. Got to find a way to for the young guys to play. If they dont it will kill your program. My current senior class has 4 players. The HCs before me didnt play a JV schedule. Lost many guys as 9th graders who could have contributed as Jrs/Srs. |
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Post by tabs52 on Jan 25, 2017 10:29:03 GMT -6
How do you "lose because of numbers" yet still have kids not get any PT? We play ALL kids on JV every game. Not the same amount of PT, but everyone gets in. We also have a good number of contributing Soph's up on varsity. We have definitely lost games because of those 2 tactics, but we are able to keep numbers. PT also helps to improve parental support...not that we dont have the drunk uncle or loud mom in the stands, cuz we do, but the parents give more support at home when their child gets in the game. I think the people to talk to right now, would be the kids talking down the program, especially if they have plans to stay on the team. We had to cancel games last year b/c the numbers, I think our entire team 9-12 had 37 members. There were days with injuries where we might of practiced 25 at the most. The other issue we had quite a few 9/10 graders playing significant varsity time. |
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Post by coachcb on Jan 25, 2017 10:35:47 GMT -6
We would always suit up as many guys as we could for a JV game, even when we had freshman/froshmore teams. The best freshman and sophs would be pulled up to play JV and any junior not looking to play much on Friday would be dressed out.
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Post by tothehouse on Jan 25, 2017 10:52:17 GMT -6
We are in the same boat...but our league is one of the toughest in CA.
Big time injury concern. It might be different if we could hang for awhile...but our lower levels have been getting squashed by monsters.
Our leagues change after next year...but in the meantime...it's going to be a struggle to get kids out knowing they are going up against some of the best programs in the state.
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Post by szimm29 on Jan 25, 2017 17:52:55 GMT -6
How do you "lose because of numbers" yet still have kids not get any PT? We play ALL kids on JV every game. Not the same amount of PT, but everyone gets in. We also have a good number of contributing Soph's up on varsity. We have definitely lost games because of those 2 tactics, but we are able to keep numbers. PT also helps to improve parental support...not that we dont have the drunk uncle or loud mom in the stands, cuz we do, but the parents give more support at home when their child gets in the game. I think the people to talk to right now, would be the kids talking down the program, especially if they have plans to stay on the team. We had to cancel games for a lack of numbers (we will next year come H*ll or high water) keep our schedule |
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Post by ALBallCoach on Jan 26, 2017 8:02:26 GMT -6
I coached at a 1-A school in Tennessee. We always struggled to have numbers. We sometimes would go into a game with 15 kids. It can definitely be disheartening. Just focus on the kids and try to make the ones that are still there that much better.
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