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Post by coachgower on Jan 6, 2017 8:13:49 GMT -6
Coaches,
Looking for advice/information on clinic talks. Trying to think outside the box for an upcoming clinic talk. I know, I know, don't spend time talking about philosophy, how many FBS kids we had, etc. Considering the hour time allotted, when discussing a topic:
1. What is something you want to hear, OTHER than scheme. Ex-Practice schedule? Game prep?
2. What made a speaker the best or worst you have heard?
Would like for coaches at all levels, regardless of class/school size to walk out of the room thinking they got something out of it. We have all been there, when walked into a room hoping to get something out of it, and was lost/disinterested in the first 10 minutes, and I don't want to be that guy.
I know for some, practice schedule may not be the answer considering some have the same 11 on offense and defense, or 11 on offense and a different 11 on defense.
Would like to keep their attention for the whole hour...(wishful thinking) but looking for advice from you guys. Thanks!
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 6, 2017 8:24:02 GMT -6
Coaches, Looking for advice/information on clinic talks. Trying to think outside the box for an upcoming clinic talk. I know, I know, don't spend time talking about philosophy, how many FBS kids we had, etc. Considering the hour time allotted, when discussing a topic: 1. What is something you want to hear, OTHER than scheme. Ex-Practice schedule? Game prep? 2. What made a speaker the best or worst you have heard? Would like for coaches at all levels, regardless of class/school size to walk out of the room thinking they got something out of it. We have all been there, when walked into a room hoping to get something out of it, and was lost/disinterested in the first 10 minutes, and I don't want to be that guy. I know for some, practice schedule may not be the answer considering some have the same 11 on offense and defense, or 11 on offense and a different 11 on defense. Would like to keep their attention for the whole hour...(wishful thinking) but looking for advice from you guys. Thanks! I was asked to talk at our state association's clinic a couple years ago. I thought I would present on a topic that is a growing issue in our state and made it about how to make a cooperative program work. Also a lot of our program development, but the title was about coops. Outside my friends and staff I had two schools or staffs show up. There was maybe 12 people in the room. Now, the two staffs that went really liked it and I had quite a few people email me after asking me questions, but I was pretty disappointed with the turnout. I guess, what I'm trying to say is, make sure your title is catchy. I, and those who attended, thought my presentation was pretty good. But, no one was there because I thought substance would win over catchy names. From a personal standpoint- I like whole program presentations over Xs and Os. I would also rather hear about how you structure practice or weight lifting than I would what offense or defense you run. |
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 6, 2017 8:41:20 GMT -6
1. program development
2. i really like fundamentals and drills...how do you teach XYZ?
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Post by blb on Jan 6, 2017 9:27:51 GMT -6
If you speak on coaching a position, only guys who coach that position will attend.
If you speak on an offensive or defensive scheme, you'll attract only guys interested in those systems - and your opponents.
If you talk on philosophy, program development, or the like, you'll only get other HCs and the assistants they make accompany them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 9:29:33 GMT -6
I'm always interested in coaches who talk about developing their programme culture.
For me, good speakers show enthusiasm for the subject they are talking about, I find that always holds my attention. Try and get in some audience interaction too, even if it's just verbal (who runs this scheme, who's seen this scheme before, etc). If you're talking about fundamentals I find this work even better. Inject a little humour too but don't go overboard.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Jan 6, 2017 9:39:39 GMT -6
When talking scheme, I want to know the specifics. For example if your clinic is on Air Raid concepts I don't want to just hear you say "We run Y-shallow". I want to know the specifics of receiver footwork off the line vs press man or route depth, how you coach your receivers on their break, QB progression, etc.
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Post by rosey65 on Jan 6, 2017 9:52:44 GMT -6
Hopefully the ones in charge give you some sort of theme to cover, i hate clinics with no thought or organization to their talks. non-competing topics at the same time, general themes covered, etc...
For speakers, I like hearing a "WHY" behind everything talked about.
Why do you block certain plays that way? Is there cohesion across your scheme?
WHY do you run your program like you do? What are you hoping to accomplish?
WHY do you teach those lifts?
WHY do you work that particular fundamental/technique/drill?
WHY do you skin your cat that way??
None of us will ever run a program/position/scheme/drill the same. Im not going to do what you do. But if I hear a reasoning behind what you do, I can apply similar thoughts and principles to what I do...and quickly dismiss anything not applicable.
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 6, 2017 9:55:59 GMT -6
Details. The devil is in the details.
I hate going to defensive clinic sessions because it's all "we run this blitz, then this blitz, then this blitz" and "Vs the spread, we run this, and this."
I would rather hear about how you prepare them to make them successful. We run C.2 and it's a really great coverage for us, but we don't really do a GREAT job teaching it, imo. What we do a GREAT job of is repping C.2 vs the looks that hurt it and the looks we expect to see and we do that all spring, summer, and fall and the specific way that we do that is a large part of what makes C.2 so good for us.
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Post by veerfan on Jan 6, 2017 14:12:09 GMT -6
I can't add much else other than personally I like to going to clinic speakers to see if they are a program that I would like to sit down with one on one. I've found that, as long as they aren't in your league or playoff class, that you can go sit down and get so much more out of your time with them. I know that the clinic talks are limited on time and topics, but those who are willing to share outside of the clinic are some of the best conversations. If the speakers can relay to me a lot of what others have posted, then I will try to set up those times.
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Post by coachphillip on Jan 6, 2017 15:52:46 GMT -6
I think Mariner is dead on with his take on it being about the details. Tell me what you do, why you do it, HOW you go about getting the kids to do it, and how you troubleshoot it when you came up against some kind of obstacle.
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Post by coachphillip on Jan 6, 2017 15:54:40 GMT -6
One of the best clinics I went to was with Duane Akina. He talked about Man Free. I thought, "Oh great. I've seen this before." He went into great detail about the problems he ran into with getting kids to play Man Free and how they teach it, rep it, and fix it when it's gone wrong. It was extremely informative.
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 6, 2017 20:50:39 GMT -6
Nothing is worse than a guy presenting a scheme and he shows highlight after highlight of a Walter Payton clone making great plays. If I had that kid, I would be doing the presentation.
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Post by coachjm on Jan 7, 2017 6:29:58 GMT -6
I have always had the most success with well rounded topics that are cover most schemes but I can really dig into. Examples:
Offensive Line Blocking progression for hands or shoulder blocking
Power Play instruction from multiple formations
Passing game for wing based offenses
We are a double wing team that runs multiple formations, I have spent many years as a line coach teaching both shoulder and hand blocking and we work really hard on our pass game so ultimately all of these items listed above are things that I know we do with pretty good detail and the topics are broad enough to draw in folks (and hopefully give them a nugget of info) but yet it is something we can talk about intelligently with good detail..
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Post by wolfden12 on Jan 7, 2017 8:24:51 GMT -6
The biggest thing I have felt is beneficial is what does the HFC want me to gather. I will go and attend speakers that he wants information on/questions answered to items related to the program that he feels are necessary.
Personally, what are topics I need to grow and develop (O, D, K).
Culture. With aspirations of being a HFC, I love listening to others regardless of classification on what they do to be successful.
With speakers, I always try to do some background on them before attending. I do this because I always try to get there early and introduce myself and have a conversation starter. The conversation starter is usually something non-football related. For example, how are the wife and kids, how was the travel, how was your holiday etc? I try to sit-up front and be attentive and stay off my phone. At the conclusion, I shake their hand and ask (if needing more information or time) if they can do a breakout session, buy them a drink/dinner and pick their brain.
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Post by go42 on Jan 7, 2017 9:09:48 GMT -6
I enjoy hearing specific details about what other programs do in their off-season programs; lifting, leadership, unique things, etc. How do you organize your off-season lifting program? How do you work with other sports you share athletes with? What do you do to make your program unique?
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