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Post by nltdiego on Jan 12, 2017 0:56:53 GMT -6
Do you guys white board stuff with players and teach scheme? If so, how many days a week? month? What are you teaching?
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Post by bigmoot on Jan 12, 2017 5:26:09 GMT -6
Try to have position meetings 1 time a week. Not long or heavy but to keep rules in their heads so we don't have to start over.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 12, 2017 8:00:41 GMT -6
No.
I mean, damn, these are HS kids. We didn't do this kind of stuff when I played college football.
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Post by rosey65 on Jan 12, 2017 12:22:37 GMT -6
We would meet one day a week with the OL, during lunch at school, but we dont need that.
We're in FL, we go pretty much year-round, 4 days/week. We have at least 2 days, 30-40 minutes each day, where we go through scheme. We cover EVERYTHING, with the goal of really increasing the football IQ of our kids. We have a month of practice and a game in May, our goal there is to not teach a single element of scheme once we have pads on. All scheme is learned in the spring/summer, and we do nothing but technique and timing once we have gear on.
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Post by tabs52 on Jan 12, 2017 12:31:20 GMT -6
Just lift, personally the more I think about I have to agree let these kids be, they get enough in starting at some point during spring and summer.
Also, from my personal experience what I would teach now may not be what we end up doing in the fall
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Post by coachcb on Jan 12, 2017 12:41:10 GMT -6
I used to bring our OL in once a week during lunch in the spring. We'd cover our blocking rules on the board and then watch some video clips of really good Wing-T teams running their stuff.
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Post by dytmook on Jan 12, 2017 12:43:09 GMT -6
Maybe every once and awhile, but nothing too formal or in depth. Definitely not bringing them in at a special time for it unless we are having a big event.
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 12, 2017 13:35:09 GMT -6
with the exception of the QB position I do not think meeting much in the off season is helpful
I am a big believer that kids still need some time to be kids
We lift daily, that is our focus
When we get about a month out from spring ball, i will have a meeting or two with the OL group to go over some rules and plays
more importantly i show them videos of the drills they did last year, so it is in their heads when we start spring ball
QBs meet independently with our QB coach here and there in the off season
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Post by **** on Jan 12, 2017 13:58:22 GMT -6
Kids that don't do a winter/spring sport lift after school.
We do zero meetings for scheme.
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Post by coachtua on Jan 12, 2017 23:29:15 GMT -6
Do you guys white board stuff with players and teach scheme? If so, how many days a week? month? What are you teaching? Do you have a football PE class. At my last stop we did. Monday - skill players on the field offensive emphasis. Plyo, ladders, cuts, routes, plays. Bigs weights. After school skills weights, OL punching work. Tuesday the OL was on the field doing position specific drills, ladders, sleds, cone work, plyo work and a little bit of scheme reminder stuff. Skills weights. Bigs lift after school. Wednesday - skill players on the field defensive emphasis. Speed work, form running, plyos, defensive skill work. Bigs weights. After school skills weights, OL different punching drills. Thursday - DL emphasis. Skills weights. Bigs lift after school. Friday skills competition day...7 on 7. Bigs weights. Weightroom closed after school. |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jan 13, 2017 0:05:05 GMT -6
coachtua You guys must either have multiple coaches on campus whose prep period is during football class or a bunch of off campus coaches willing to put in time. Either way, that sounds like a very well organized plan. As for the OP, I agree with those who say let the kids be kids. And Inalonagree with the poster who said we are asking more from our kids than some colleges. In So Cal, football is year round and coaches are having shorter and shorter careers due to burnout and lack of fair compensation.
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Post by carookie on Jan 13, 2017 0:42:25 GMT -6
I was at a place that did this, it had little to no positive impact on performance during the season. Even if it wasnt about letting the kids be kids, there is only so much 'scheme' you need.
In the end you just end up going over the same stuff over and over again, waste time with ancillary motivational type stuff, or start piling on more scheme because you have the time (and its this last one that really kills you)
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Post by realdawg on Jan 13, 2017 6:09:25 GMT -6
Maybe 1 or 2 times right before we start spring ball just to intro our base scheme and fundamentals. That it. Nothing this time of year
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Post by rosey65 on Jan 13, 2017 7:37:29 GMT -6
When I first started, the off-season outside of the weight room was a jumbled collection of football-related activities. Over the past 9 years, it has become more streamlined, organized, and focused on what we are going (hoping) to accomplish during the season. We have won games because of the work we do in the off-season.
We had an unusually high number of impact transfers join our program just before camp last season. There was a HUGE disparity between our players and the new kids, it took us well into the season before the new kids had a moderate grasp of the playbook.
The biggest disparity was on my OL. It had to shut down my kids for almost a week just to get the new kids caught up on everything from stance, 1st step, pass-pro demeanor, and blocking form. OL play is an unnatural skill that needs to be taught and repped. It is definitely possible to be a good team with no off-season work. The off-season can be a waste of time if you let it. The off-season can also be a game-changer if you want it to be.
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Post by aceback76 on Jan 13, 2017 8:03:39 GMT -6
Do you guys white board stuff with players and teach scheme? If so, how many days a week? month? What are you teaching? On non-lifting days (Tuesday & Thursday for us) = have classroom sessions (power points, film, etc.) at least one (or 2 at most) of those days. Also do a lot of "walk-thru" ion the gym to apply what has been taught in classroom. |
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Post by petej83 on Jan 13, 2017 8:24:34 GMT -6
We just try to get kids in the weightroom. We had a group of kids that wanted to talk over stuff. I'm in Wisconsin so we don't have spring ball and aren't really supposed to do coaching in the off season.
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Post by jgordon1 on Jan 13, 2017 8:27:58 GMT -6
Maybe 1 or 2 times right before we start spring ball just to intro our base scheme and fundamentals. That it. Nothing this time of year Same with us..I might take a couple of younger kids for another session...Don't do that much w/ DL Our stuff hasn't changed in 3 years so retention is excellent..I met a little more when I first got here |
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 13, 2017 8:28:55 GMT -6
We won't do anything football related until after Spring Break and even then it's only on our non-lifting days.
We might do OL meetings at lunch during Spring Ball, not sure on that yet.
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Post by lmorris on Jan 13, 2017 13:20:46 GMT -6
Twice, once with OL/Q/B, once with Q/B/Recs the Tuesday and Thursday before we start spring practice. We usually do this more for the benefit of those that are new to the program rather than for the ones who have been in it.
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Post by tabs52 on Jan 14, 2017 8:04:01 GMT -6
It seems like everyone wants to go year with football but we complain when other sports want to go year. Also, as a coach I need to back away, or I would be done with coaching by now. The time in the weight room is more valuable for me then talking football. I get to build better relationships with my guys, also it allows me to recharge.
The other thing is I am using this time right to learn and get better as a coach, when we start I like to have things planned out but between here and twitter I constantly reowrking things
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 11:11:31 GMT -6
We don't do it outside of spring practice because our state association says that any "sport specific instruction" outside of lifting counts as practice and there are limits on that before the summer. We do break out the whiteboard in position meetings before and after practice, though.
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Post by coachtua on Jan 15, 2017 1:49:22 GMT -6
coachtua You guys must either have multiple coaches on campus whose prep period is during football class or a bunch of off campus coaches willing to put in time. Either way, that sounds like a very well organized plan. As for the OP, I agree with those who say let the kids be kids. And Inalonagree with the poster who said we are asking more from our kids than some colleges. In So Cal, football is year round and coaches are having shorter and shorter careers due to burnout and lack of fair compensation. BOTH...Most of the on campus coaches had a 6th period prep. This reduced the need for subs when the Frosh and JV games were earlier than normal. The off campus coaches came when they could. |
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