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Post by fshamrock on May 20, 2015 8:46:46 GMT -6
We have state tournament, it is brutal. Last spring we were in a tournament that can qualify you to go to state. It was a pool play tournament and the top two qualify, but it gets confusing because if a team has already qualified for state at a previous tournament then they don't count, even if they get first or second. So we went about .500 in the tournament and were pretty sure that another school had qualified and we didn't. Man we were pumped, until they come over to tell us we qualified. We argued that another school did and we didn't, so there was a meeting that went like this. us: "great job coaches, you guys are going to STATE" them: "hell no we didn't, you guys are IN for sure, congratulations" us: "no, no, no..you guys are really good and we suck, have fun over there!"
and back and forth it went...everybody knows that 7on7 sucks
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Post by fshamrock on May 7, 2015 10:33:10 GMT -6
Anybody feel like these might be detrimental? I seen other O-line guys do it..never felt good about it...what if they don't line up in the game like I had them lined up in the quiz?
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Post by fshamrock on Apr 21, 2015 8:54:26 GMT -6
..not that anybody asked me, but the test are a waste of money even for a multi-million dollar business. I had to take a bunch of them in grad school and it was just silly. Here's the patent pending fshamrock personality test
1) If a bunch of people were standing around not doing anything, which are you likely to do? A. stand there too B. start a flash mob dance to thriller C. ask if anybody has weed D. find something for them to accomplish and lead them
Results: (complicated psychological algorithms processing) if you answered D..you are a leader
That'll be $39.95
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Post by fshamrock on Feb 13, 2015 9:24:49 GMT -6
Somebody at a school that doesn't have much pressure to win needs to pull the trigger on this for sheer entertainment value, Can you name a school like that? Touche ..but a man can still dream
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Post by fshamrock on Feb 12, 2015 9:58:39 GMT -6
It looks like the only thing we can be sure of is more change. As for TEs- I'm not so sure the game is going that way. I've always said that in order for me to have a TE I need to have 8 linemen first. Maybe It's just the areas I've been, but I've never seen that luxury. I coached 1 year at a school with a decent TE. We've always needed more linemen. Those "Tight Ends" have always served much more value as an Offensive Tackle. And yes, TEs tend to be scooped and horded by the DL coach early. I think the participation numbers for this sport are declining, and especially with bigger kids. I see lots of big kids around HS campuses. But they are soft and unwilling to participate in any kind of physical activity. I used to think this way too... heck i was a 100% 4 wide guy for 3 full years anyone who asked to play TE or Fb was just a fast O lineman however I will say now that I have gone back and do a lot of 21 and 12 personnel stuff, I love it! he is the thing, my very best OL plays TE and FB for me this year, and will again next season (class of 2016) hes also our 2 time defensive MVP (over 100 tackles a year, 1st team all league stud MLB) what i have discovered is this the buy in from the beginning of his sophomore year when he was a guard, to middle of that year when we moved him to TE has gone way up... he would do his job blocking at guard, but something magic about saying he was a TE and switching to a pretty #10 jersey... he busted his butt... we run 90% of the time, and he only caught a handful of passes but he started giving me more in practice and games on offense, and didnt save himself for defense anymore... he was phenomenal in indys this last year and got better every day the other benefit was putting him at TE, i KNEW he would kill his downblock and seal the box down for us... he routinely moved DTs out of the way if he played OL and i moved him unbalanced to down block you kind of know it is coming, where as at TE he moved around right and left all the time without it being so obvious the ball is coming right there at FB, he can lead on every play if i want him to kick out on power lead on counter lead outside on sweep lead inside on Iso i feel i can use him in more ways moving him around at TE and FB, just another side to consider to touch on the subject of fat kids being soft elementary teachers and their mothers make them soft, they are usually big as little kids and are constantly being told to play nice, or theyll hurt someone... so they just get raised as big softies the biggest kid in our entire school is a freshman, he is a legit 6'5" 350 lbs doesnt play football, is in the band i walked by him the other day after lunch, he was sitting on some stairs talking to another teacher, crying , because of something someone had said and while part of me feels bad and understands bullying and it's negative effects the football side of me says, you are 2x the size of anyone else on campus, downblock the little punk that bullied you and then come hit the weights with me John Madden wrote about fat kids being raised soft in his book "one knee equals two feet" ago. He had the same exact theory, he also said that the inverse was true, that when little guys are young and they are aggressive people tell them they are "cute and tough" so they stay aggressive. That's why we are always saying "i wish big billy had the toughness of little jim". His theory was that defensive lineman were likely to have been little guys growing up that grew late so they were big and aggressive, while offensive lineman were always the biggest kids and they got conditioned to be soft. His solution was to take his O-lineman into the gym periodically and have them take turns beating the hell out of a heavy bag, trying to teach to access all that aggression they've been pushing down
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Post by fshamrock on Feb 12, 2015 9:51:10 GMT -6
I think we will see a definite expansion of run/pass option offenses, and eventually develop into a whole lot of passes after hand-offs, (think iso/pop where you set the tb deeper and hand off to him then have him throw off the playside linebacker) It isn't all that odd, if you read lombardi's books it seems that the sweep pass was not a trick play for them but a staple of the offense. I doubt it will happen but I wish somebody would come up with an offense based entirely on laterals down the field. I don't know how many times I've seen a college or pro team pick up huge yardage or score by lateraling the ball around on a desperation last second play. Somebody at a school that doesn't have much pressure to win needs to pull the trigger on this for sheer entertainment value, you would probably have a lot of turnovers, but man..you gotta think you would score a bunch, the defense wouldn't be able to swarm all 11 to the ball, they'd have to stay on their assignments through the whole play to cover the laterals. Okay that's probably stupid but it would be fun to watch.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 30, 2015 11:51:43 GMT -6
While I agree that running the football helps you win, box scores can be misleading, as well as saying that you have won x percentage of your games when you run for x amount of yards. Remember that the winning team runs the ball late in the game because they have the lead and want to grind out the clock. This skews the numbers a little bit in favor of rushing, particularly in a blowout win. Say team "A" opens up a 28 point lead in the first half chucking it deep, then they spend the entire second half running the ball to kill the clock and end up with 35 carries for 300 yards.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 19, 2015 10:46:45 GMT -6
Okay gr8 thread but whut iz the best offense for realz? thx
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 28, 2014 11:35:01 GMT -6
I agree with your disagreement (if that's a thing) I'm not advocating that we abandon individual all together. What I should have said is that we can cut back on the time it takes to get individual done because our drills have advanced to the point where they are no longer broken down into many parts. For Example: I coach offensive line (which makes me a blashpemer to many for wanting less individual) on day 1 of two-a days we spend time repping every step that we take in our offense then we rep taking those steps on different angles then we rep taking those steps on the correct angles off the ball and making contact then we rep making contact correctly and engaging defenders then we rep engaging defenders and using leverage to create movement then we rep finishing blocks and sustaining blocks ...all of those are separate drills
by now, I want to be able to say "let's work on blocking down" and we should be able to coordinate all of those things into one drill and spend a fraction of the time in individual that we used to need.
I'm not saying it's the best possible scenario, but the OP was looking for ways to make practice less boring, and individual is boring. I also feel the need to mention that in a few weeks we will be in the offseason and all of those lineman will spend their time flippin' tires, wrasslin', and shufflin' between cones for next eight months and completely forget all the movement patterns that we have so painstakingly tried to teach all season. That point has nothing to do with the this thread but it is annoying to me and feels good to type about it to a group of strangers on the internet
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 28, 2014 10:06:38 GMT -6
How about cutting down on individual periods as the season goes on? I don't pretend to know the science but don't we at some point reach a point of diminishing returns doing the same drills over and over again? By week 9 if the right guard doesn't play with great pad level, two more weeks of the chute will probably not change it, he's been in the chute for four months now. Same goes for other positions, is your WR really going to learn how to cut in week 9? or the RB going to learn how to keep his feet up by running through those dummies the 4,789th time? Let's have individual to install the game plan, little bit of inside run, run the script in team, and call it a practice. It's not as if your not getting reps on technique anymore, you coach that stuff on the run during inside and team sessions. Seems like that would keep coaches and players a little fresher as you get down to those critical late season games.
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 22, 2014 11:19:10 GMT -6
to the OP: I don't know you my friend, but I do stand with you in solidarity. I also have a certified douche to deal with. A couple of weeks ago in our position meeting I kept a mental log of how many times he reference himself using the terms "I" "me" or "mine"....got to around 35....10 minute meeting. FML
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Post by fshamrock on Apr 29, 2014 12:00:43 GMT -6
fshamrockThat's great comedy. Which one are you? thanks, i'll be here all week I tend to find my niche where needed, if we don't have a quality Weight Room guy, i'm happy to chalk up and start grunting. The same with the others, with the exception of the athlete, i'm not fooling anybody into thinking I ever had glory days.
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Post by fshamrock on Apr 29, 2014 7:34:02 GMT -6
Having been in profession a while now, and been a part of more than a few different staffs, I feel that I have a firm grasp on the high school football coach as a species, the following is my attempt to classify this creature into its various archetypes. I hope that my rigorous evaluation meets with your approval, feel free to add as you see fit, this is more a living, breathing document than anything set in stone
The Athlete Glorydaysicus Goneimus
- the athlete is typically found in his natural habitat (his hometown), the athlete shows and inclination towards rehashing the same tired stories about his game winning catch against Washington in '02, and even more often the fact that he took twins to the prom. When you need somebody to demonstrate a route, nobody is better, but if the QB doesn't hit him on target, there will be a butt chewing "dang son..put it anywhere near me and I'm gonna snag that hoe". The athlete carries some serious baggage about his playing career, which was cut short due to injuries/coach didn't like him/politics (damn democrats) or a combination of the three, depending on what week you ask him.
The Weight Room Guy Trapezius Maximus - If you feel that the weight room is a useful tool toward your overall goals of building a better team, The Weight Room Guy wants you to know that you sir are dead wrong. To the Weight Room Guy, the lifting of heavy objects from the floor isn't just about sport, it's about sticking it to everybody who ever made fun of his shoes on the school bus. Often found grunting unintelligibly, The Weight Room guy is best left alone when "working to hit a PR". If you need someone to demonstrate power clean to the players, this is your guy, but only after he throws another 45 or two on bar. The Weight Room Guy is at his most dangerous when teenagers do not squat to the holy grail of parallel. While you might think of this is a minor technique error that warrants correction, to the weight room guy it is comparable to a Muslim watching someone pee on the Koran
The Dry Erase Board Guy circleus perfectimus -woe unto any poor soul attempting draw even the most rudimentary of plays on a dry erase board in this man's presence. Any and all questions regarding a play or scheme will result in a doctorate level dissertation. Want to know how the '89 dolphins ran that double reverse play against the Bengals? The Dry Erase Board guy knows, and even if he doesn't know, he will make something up and draw it, because it is critical to the Dry Erase Board guy that everybody understands that he is the authority on all manners football. Classic Dry Erase Board Guy behavior is to finish the drawing of play with an abrupt slamming down of the dry erase marker, in his language, this message reads: "further discussion is futile, the dry erase board guy has spoken"
The Speech Guy Lombardicus Worshipus
- Have you seen "Any Given Sunday"? The speech guy has, this morning, and yesterday morning, and the morning before that. The speech guys is known to scour youtube looking for nuggets, any slight cue that might take a mundane speech to the next level of absolute face melting awesomeness that is worth a minimum of 21 points on the field of play (note: to the speech guy, it is the field of battle) When the speech guy is at his best, he will manage to combine elements of Rudy, Patton, Mighty Ducks, Air bud, Air bud strikes back, and Ladybugs into one tirade laden diatribe that will build to an ultimate crescendo. The Speech Guy is the master of the dramatic pause in which he takes an agonizing 47 seconds to look into the eyes of every gathered player, and then whips the players into a frenzy with a dramatic "now let's go get 'em"!!!!!!!
The Old Guy leatheritus helmetus
- Among his many peculiar habits, the old guy will pour himself a hot cup of black coffee immediately following a practice in the 120 degree heat. Never far from his package of Redman, the old guy has seen it all more than once, and never fails to mention this at every opportunity. The Old Guy is a great resource, but when asking the old guy a question, you'll need to sort through a long and winding road of storytelling that will mention WW2, Steroids, Bike coaching Shorts, smoking cigarettes in the press box, and wild clinic nights with prostitutes. At times, the old guy will make comments that appear whimsical but might actually be extremely racist and make everybody uncomfortable.
The College Guy -NCAAimus Dynastymodi
- The college guy is an acolyte in the first holy church of spurrier, saban, and meyer. When attending a clinic, be wary of bringing the college guy anywhere near a marquee speaker from a major program, unless you want to see an unholy display of screaming and frothing at the mouth reminiscent teen girls at a Justin Beiber concert. The College Guy is on a one-way first name basis with big names in college coaching "ya bro that's how Urban runs the shovel pass". Paradoxically, the college guy is quick the criticize the decisions of other college football coaches that don't fall into his holy grail. "man i don't know what that d!ckhead at Utah State is doing, that guy is clueless"
The Whipped Guy nowearmi the pantsimi
- The Whipped guy loves to coach high school football, but his love for the profession does not compare with his fear of the thorough butt chewing he's going to get if he's not home to cook dinner and perform his foot rub duties. The mortal enemy of the whipped guy is the dreaded "meeting". The whipped guy will attempt to defeat the "meeting" by looking at his watch every few seconds and punctuating the maneuver with a resigned sigh. The whipped guy is evangelical in his furor to bring other onto his side of things "say man why do we have to meet for so long, can't we just run the same plays we did last week, i mean jeepers!"
if you've made it this far, and you find this list offensive, you likely fall into the most treasured category....
The Guy Who Takes Himself Way too Seriously
Ultimatus Leaderus
- TGWTHWTS prides himself on having read only one book in his life; the bible, (which to him means Nick Saban's "how good do you want to be" ) TGWTHWTS is not a mere football coach, but a leader of men in the same ilk as Roosevelt, Churchill, Wellington, Eisenhower and the other Roosevelt. The fact that these men changed nations and cultures, while the TGWTHWTS dresses up young people in plastic and has them slam into each other for the purposes of entertainment, is lost on this species. TGWTHWTS will mention the time his first child was born and he didn't make it to the hospital because it was spring install for the JV quick passing game, he is not embarrassed by this, but rather wears it (and other completely irrational decisions) as a badge of honor. To TGWTHWTS there are two kinds of men in this world, those who are good high school football players and will invariably become presidents, spiritual leaders, and captains of industry, and those who are not good high school football players whose path will lead them to hippieism, meth smoking, living in gutters, and homosexuality. This is the most pitiful of creatures, for he has tied his entire sense of self worth into the outcomes of contests played by teenagers. TGWTHWTS will chew out any player at any time and will not shy away from destroying the self respect of young people who have made the mistake of looking up to him by calling them "gutless cowards" for minor infractions. It is his way or the highway, and because of him and those like him, young people are choosing the highway in droves.
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 2, 2013 11:09:40 GMT -6
I've found that some guys are fired up emotional types naturally and are good at that kind of thing, while other guys are pretty low key and they don't have that personality. It seems to me that most of the time the guys who talk about how "fire 'em up" speeches and videos are worthless are the ones who don't have that disposition. Not that it's a prerequisite for being a great coach, not even close, but it's nice to have some guys who can do it well. The kids eat it up, probably doesn't do much for you in the win column but it is a part of the experience for them. But not what the thread is about....this clip is great if your in an underdog type situation.
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 6, 2013 9:35:58 GMT -6
Okay so let me preface this by saying that I'm not a bleeding heart kind of guy, nor am I a young coach who is looking to shatter the foundations of high school football or anything dramatic like that, but I did notice something that's got me thinking. I am an offensive line coach with a good assistant who wasn't able to make practice a few weeks ago for a family issue. During our individual period we usually have a 10-15 minute session where we split the lineman up to work on drills specific to their position. Since he wasn't going to be there I decided to take the C's and G's with me because they REALLY needed to work some zone combinations, and I just sent the tackles off on their own with some instructions. It was pretty simple "look guys, you need to work on x,y, and z and you have two periods, i'm only 30 yards away and if I look over and see you screwing around you will pay dearly". Long story short, they got in 15 minutes of great work, the seniors were echoing me coaching up the younger guys,they all seemed a little bit more enthused to do the work, and it looked to me like the got some more reps since they weren't waiting on me to say "ready,go" before every rep. They just took turns and got it done. I'm wondering if this tactic might be a nice change of pace to implement from time to time, especially towards the end of a season. We know how kids are with authority these days anyway, and speaking for myself, I can't imagine having somebody ordering around my every movement for an hour and half without it feeling like drudgery. I'm tempted to start next year's individual periods by teaching the drill and what I want to see, then cutting them loose to work on it while I move around the group and correct what needs correcting, instead of standing in front and yelling "go" six hundred times. By the time we get into the season I'll be able just say "alright fellas...stick drill..partner up and get started" then walk around and correct until it's time for the next drill. The potential for chaos is high and I might get fired, but it's interesting to me. Anybody already do this? Thoughts? Craziness? Thanks fellas
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 4, 2013 7:23:04 GMT -6
I can't stand disorganization and wasted time. We have a lot of both in our program and it frustrates me. It has always seemed to me that there are a few guys that take this mentality toward meetings and are visibly upset when they feel that time is being wasted with idle conversation. One of the two situations is usually true, the guy doesn't really fit in with the rest of the staff and would rather be home than up there shooting the breeze, or the guy's wife has a firm grip on him and is constantly riding him about when is he gonna be home so he can mow the grass or take the curlers out of her hair or whatever. Part of what makes our job great is the camaraderie that develops between coaches, what's better than ragging on a dude about how we the coach from the team across town slept with wife back in high school?...the answer..nothing
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Post by fshamrock on May 24, 2012 12:26:05 GMT -6
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Post by fshamrock on Nov 30, 2011 10:44:38 GMT -6
hey not to change the topic of the thread to "great tobacco products for coaches" but along the lines of what someone else said about nicotine gum if you've got that bad mutha*** nicotine monkey on your back try using a product called "snus" they are selling it in gas stations all over the place, it's still tobacco, but you just throw it in your lip, requires no spitting and the pouch is too small to be visible..you can even get away with it in the classroom...not me personally...but this guy I know does that
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Post by fshamrock on Feb 24, 2011 12:48:24 GMT -6
hangs over my desk
If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies, Or being hated, don’t give way to hating, And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream–and not make dreams your master, If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build ‘em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on!”
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with kings–nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much, If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, And–which is more–you’ll be a Man, my son!
–Rudyard Kipling
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 21, 2010 11:55:03 GMT -6
fsham, to me, it seems a little long. When do you show video? Weights...? video?.....weights?.....hardly ever show video...the kids can watch on thier own after school, and we are terrible about in-season lifting....we get one decent lift in on Saturdays, but never during the week....I guess when you are giving up 34 points a game on average...you tend to overlook the little things
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 21, 2010 10:16:01 GMT -6
maybe we're crazy, sure seems like it, we go 16 segs O then 16 segs D on Monday, 14/14 on Tuesday, 12/12 on Wednesday, walkthrough on thursday in shorts......too much?
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 21, 2010 9:41:56 GMT -6
we had a pretty good one a while ago, we had played a subvarsity game against a team of mostly black kids and we were mostly white, well this kid is playing safety, and apparently during the game he was using the N word freely. We didn't hear it at the time but the opposing coaches told us about it. So we called the kid in the next day and told him "now look _____ what you did was wrong, we're willing to keep you on the team, but you're going to run 20,000 yards....break it up however you want to, but you're not practicing again until you run every yard of it".....kid looks at us....thinks for a second....then gets out of his chair, shakes our hands...and says "nah...I don't think I wanna do that, I'll just get kicked off the team...see ya 'round".....
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Post by fshamrock on May 12, 2010 12:23:00 GMT -6
fair enough
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Post by fshamrock on May 12, 2010 12:12:19 GMT -6
reminds me of a funny story..
HC has a system set up where on Saturday's every married coaches wife is going to bring lunch up to the school for everybody to eat, staff cohesion and all that stuff
so one saturday it's the head man's wife's turn to bring the vittles, and she shows up with a big tray of lasagna, while everybody else breaks to eat, one of the coaches goes to subway and grabs a sandwich, says he doesn't like lasagna.....he gets back with his sandwich and gets an f-bomb littered tirade from the header about how he disrespeted his wife, guy was fired at the end of the year
..there's a lot of weird guys in this profession
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Post by fshamrock on Apr 13, 2010 12:16:51 GMT -6
When I was in high school I looked around the realized that all of my coaches had good-looking wives...even the ugly guys...that was it for me
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Post by fshamrock on Mar 25, 2010 13:11:05 GMT -6
with my position guys, i preach to them all time that failing a class and becoming ineligible is the same as quitting the team, every assignment that they fail to turn in is them taking a step toward quitting on us,and the guys who don't take care of business in class must not have wanted to play that bad anyway
maybe that's cold hearted, but 99% of the failures we our just guys that don't turn assignments in,if they just do the work and don't act like jerk the teachers will pass them, after enough berating they start to police each other and I don't have too many problems
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Post by fshamrock on Dec 4, 2009 13:07:00 GMT -6
It has always seemed to me that deferring gives you more options....it is the only situation in which you can know exactly when you will be getting the ball through the course of a game...if you defer and the other offense scores..so what?..most games aren't shutouts anyway..and they had to get the ball sometime...but if we defer, at least we can make some descisions at the end of the second half......if we're behind, it gives us a chance to score, and then get the ball back without the bad guys getting a possession....makes sense to me..but then again, most of that analysis comes from playing NCAA football 2005 on the original Xbox..so maybe it doesn't hold up
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 29, 2009 9:24:35 GMT -6
I'm sure this has been covered somewhere before, but I could not get the right search terms together to come up with any results
We would like to do a better job with discipline in our program in the future and were looking to put together a set of written rules to give to our players We'd like to cover rules for our offseason program as well as for the team next year, covering topics like missing practice, being late, talking back, etc. etc.
If any of you guys have something like this in place, how did you structure? and how effective is it?
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 2, 2009 10:12:50 GMT -6
thanks for the suggestions....makes sense to me that the whole idea is probably a little overrated....the comment about Iraq and Afghanistan reminded me of how we used to act before a patrol when I was in the military....if we were going out somewhere was was suppossed to be hot with insurgents....we were jacking around like crazy before we went out.....better that than sit there silently and worry yourself into making a mistake
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 2, 2009 8:39:49 GMT -6
My favorite boxing quote is...."you don't dance with the Champ....you have to knock him out!"
throw everything at them...what the hell....reverse flea flicker pass?....that's bread and butter in a game like this....to start with anyway...if that all goes to hell...then go to plan B....tell the QB to use eeeeevery second of that play clock
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