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Post by fshamrock on Oct 29, 2009 9:24:35 GMT -6
I'm sure this has been covered somewhere before, but I could not get the right search terms together to come up with any results
We would like to do a better job with discipline in our program in the future and were looking to put together a set of written rules to give to our players
We'd like to cover rules for our offseason program as well as for the team next year, covering topics like missing practice, being late, talking back, etc. etc.
If any of you guys have something like this in place, how did you structure? and how effective is it?
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Post by John Knight on Oct 29, 2009 9:30:57 GMT -6
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Post by touchdownmaker on Oct 29, 2009 15:19:21 GMT -6
I posted three in my locker room this year...
1) do right always
2) be where you are expected to be at the time you are expected to be there doing what you are expected to do
3) treat others as you wish to be treated
thats it.
NOW WE DO HAVE OTHER RULES that are cya rules ie" no cleats in the building" and things like that. we printed up a contract for the players and had them sign it, really covers your rear.
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 29, 2009 19:21:22 GMT -6
johnknight is right - The fewer rules you have, the better off you are.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Oct 30, 2009 8:29:15 GMT -6
Don't use set punishments. If they know what the punishment is going to be then they can measure the risk versus the reward. Keep that floating.
Example:
I made a kid run 10 hills for throwing a paperwad in the cafeteria.
A few weeks later I made a kid run 25 hills for throwing a green bean in the cafeteria.
Kid: "Coach that's not fair. So and so only had to run 10 hills."
My response: "You should have learned from his mistake."
That was four years ago. Nothing has been thrown in the cafeteria since then.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 30, 2009 8:33:21 GMT -6
Carr: Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...
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Post by jpdaley25 on Oct 30, 2009 9:00:49 GMT -6
Great movie! I've shown the fight scene in it many times to show the kids that you can still win, even if you lose.
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Post by D-Coach on Oct 31, 2009 12:03:10 GMT -6
Do What's Right!
Do Your Best!
Respect of Others!
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Post by warriorhog51 on Nov 3, 2009 10:22:02 GMT -6
While I agree the fewer rules the better, I think you have to have more on paper these days than just "Do the right thing." I think that punishments should be fair, but not necessarily equal. Its an area that I have struggled with developing my personal philosophy on over the last few years. I think that you have to have something more specific on paper. That way they know the expectations going into it. This is something that the HC that I work for now didn't really do at the start of the year. We (as a staff) went into it just telling the kids "do the right thing" without giving them any guidance on what the right thing is and the consequences are of doing the wrong things. So, throughout the season we were constantly having to create and inforce new rules because kids were doing their own thing. I am a firm believer that its easier to be tough and hard on them early and then when they are all in line you can loosen up a little bit. We did it opposite, which hasn't worked out very well for us. I think kids want discipline, I know they need discipline. They may not always like it at the time, or acknowledge that it was good for them. There are few that do, but down the road they will be better because of it.
I think you have to put the expectations out there early. That way the players (ane probably more importantly the parents) know what is coming if they mess up.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Nov 3, 2009 10:44:12 GMT -6
Wooden said few rules, many expectations. I think a rule is different from an expectation. A rule must be enforced. An expectation allows you leeway in how you respond.
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