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Post by saltfork on Mar 11, 2010 20:21:53 GMT -6
We check our "gradespeed" weekly during the season. If kids are failing we have extra work for them after practice. Like flipping tires and bear crawls. Looking to tweak it some. Here's the question:
What is your system for checking grades and the consequences for failing or near failing grades? How about tutorials or study halls?
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Post by tchestovich on Mar 11, 2010 21:46:28 GMT -6
We check grades regularly but we also hold study table for those that are having troubles before school. They have to be there for 15 minutes and then they need to report to a teacher to get extra help.
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Post by cwood on Mar 11, 2010 21:52:47 GMT -6
We email the teachers every other week for grade and behavior reports. If a student has below a 70 they must go to study hall in one of the coaches classrooms or the class they need help in at 7:30. School starts at 8:05. Then after practice they must stay an additional 30 minutes for another study hall. The study halls are with the HC, OC, DC, or they can get a coach that teaches that subject area.
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Post by ramsoc on Mar 11, 2010 22:06:45 GMT -6
We check our grades weekly and those who are in trouble, we try to get them the help they need either from a teammate or their teacher
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Post by norcaldiaz on Mar 11, 2010 23:39:23 GMT -6
We check grades weekly all year long, and in the off-season we have "recommended" (go or else they have bear crawls during athletic PE) tutoring at least twice a week for students who have any D's or F's. They can either go to my classroom, another teacher, or the school's tutoring program before school, at lunch or after. They need to get signatures to verify attendance at tutoring.
We also do up-downs as a team for each tardy the team accumulates during the week. At our school helping our athletes get eligible is a big part of our off-season preparation...
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Post by coachcompton on Mar 12, 2010 0:39:49 GMT -6
We have a lot of helpful teachers who are willing to tutor so we take advantage of that by having weekly progress reports and kids who are slipping up have to go to study sessions or they will be held out of practice/games/suspended until they attend sessions and actively work to get those grades up. They are still responsible for any practices they miss which mean 6AM make-up sessions that are gruesome.
We try to have good communication with teachers. Alot of players just don't want to do homework, study, or were never taught properly so it is a challenge w/ grades. But bottom line is if they don't get grades up they won't be eligible and can't play. So we try to do everything we can to make sure our players can be successful in the classroom. Its not easy but taking football away and assigning makeup days is a good way to get players attention. If a player is having particular trouble with an area we try to get him all the help he can get, as long as they are doing what we need them to do we let them practice, play, etc. as long as they are eligible and following their program.
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Post by coachvann on Mar 12, 2010 6:43:51 GMT -6
We do weekly as well...if you are below a 70 in anything the first time you have a week to get it up. If it stays below a 70 you miss practice to go to tutoring. For every practice you miss you miss a quarter.
When I first implemented it-I thought I was going to shoot myself in the foot. We had 1 guy miss 2 quarters (best athlete) and only 1 guy became inelligible. It worked out really well. When you hold a kid to a high standard and follow through on your discipline-it pays off!! It pays off more for the kid in the long run as well. Remember, it's more than winning games-it's setting standards and changing lives!!
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Mar 12, 2010 7:17:27 GMT -6
Best system I have been a part of:
Anyone with below a 2.5 goes to mandatory study hall implemented Monday, Wednesday, Friday before practice/game. Only excusable reason to miss is tutoring with a professor and that person must send note to coach. Study hall remains in effect until progress reports or report cards prove that you have above a 2.5.
Weekly grade sheets during the season (starting about week 2). They go out on Monday and must be signed by teacher by Thursday before practice. No gradesheet=no play. Teachers sometimes hassle over this but you easily get admin to back you when it's for the kid's academic improvement.
The HC that implemented this only had to sit a starter one time his first season. Team GPA rose from something like a 1.8 to a 2.6 his first year. 10+ kids had failed off in years past, his first year they only had 1 (non starter).
Like coachvann stated- hold them accountable and to a higher standard and they will rise up. Stick to your guns and sit the dude that doesn't turn in his gradesheet. If he can't buy in to what you're doing off the field how can buy in to what you're doing on the field? It'll pay off in the long run!
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Post by saltfork on Mar 13, 2010 8:42:28 GMT -6
Thanks coaches this info will help. The last couple of years we have also been starting practice 45 min after school. We get out at 3:00 so that gives students time to go see a teacher for tutoring. But we don't get out of practice until 6:00. I'm wondering if the extra time after school is worth it. Is anyone elsde doing this?
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Post by jlenwood on Mar 13, 2010 10:23:23 GMT -6
At our school, every freshman that is in a sport has to go to a 1 hour study table class after school...no exceptions. As soon as mid terms come out, if your grade is a 2.0 or above,you are good to go. Anytime it falls below that, you go back to study table. At any grade level, if you go below a 2.o you must attend study table. Below 1.6 you are ineligible.
Detentions are treated as a team failure, therefore team consequence (running, suicides etc.)
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Post by touchdowng on Mar 13, 2010 17:02:37 GMT -6
We check our "gradespeed" weekly during the season. If kids are failing we have extra work for them after practice. Like flipping tires and bear crawls. Looking to tweak it some. Here's the question: What is your system for checking grades and the consequences for failing or near failing grades? How about tutorials or study halls? REALLY? ................................? How many points does a tire flip get Timmy Testbow in his Language arts class? If he failed a test, do bear crawls allow him to pass? Have a progressive system in place that will help create opportunities for players to get their grades up (with the right kind of help) and a consequence system for losing playing time or points towards their letter or something. You're punishing a symptom (procrastination) but you are not addressing the disease.
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Post by saltfork on Mar 13, 2010 21:48:23 GMT -6
toughdowng,
Great point, what is your system for creating those opportunities?
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Post by calicoachh on Mar 14, 2010 10:11:57 GMT -6
i have a homework log, because we all know that if a player is having trouble in a class, 99% of the time it is because he is not doing his homework. so every morning, he has to come show me his homework and i check that he has done it. if he doesn't we don't allow him to lift that day. the kids hate it when you don't let them lift. we tell them that they are letting themselves and their teammates down. very few kids try to take advantage of this and the other kids know immediately
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Post by 5straight on Mar 14, 2010 15:16:35 GMT -6
Have open communication with all your players teachers. If a boy is struggling make him have a study hall after school. Sometimes the teacher will offer help. Also have other students on the team tutor him.
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Post by airman on Mar 14, 2010 15:26:10 GMT -6
we identify those students who need academic support starting in 8th grade. we have a district wide tutoring program which is very helpful. our school also has a 2.5 min grade point for middle school athletes and a 2.75 min grade point for high school kids.
one think our head coach has for a policy is this if you do not have a 2.75 the quarter before football(spring semester) do not bother to come out for football. it is a huge motivator for most kids. now some will say it detracts from letting all participate but as our head coach says we run a multiple pro style passing attack and a college level 43 defense so our kids have to be smart.
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Post by shields on Mar 19, 2010 7:23:32 GMT -6
We check grades every two weeks ALL year long. We check grades, absences, and tardies. We have found: 1. This builds repor with the faculty. 2. Holds the kids accountable for the year, not just doing football season. 3. Doesn't allow kids to "slip through the cracks."
We start the year with a block of time built in for a Study Hall/Character Ed/Film/Weights before practice. Any kid that slips below a C average in any class, has MANDATORY Study Hall. The others have Character Ed/Weights/Film.
Each position coach is responsible for his kids. Because we have some DB/WR kids, the DB coach and I will split those kids up (we usually have the largest group anyway). The HC takes the QBs and gets involved with the really troubling cases--i.e. the knuckleheads that for whatever reason can't get their act together but who need football in their lives.
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Post by fshamrock on Mar 25, 2010 13:11:05 GMT -6
with my position guys, i preach to them all time that failing a class and becoming ineligible is the same as quitting the team, every assignment that they fail to turn in is them taking a step toward quitting on us,and the guys who don't take care of business in class must not have wanted to play that bad anyway
maybe that's cold hearted, but 99% of the failures we our just guys that don't turn assignments in,if they just do the work and don't act like jerk the teachers will pass them, after enough berating they start to police each other and I don't have too many problems
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Post by hamerhead on Mar 25, 2010 13:49:35 GMT -6
We check our "gradespeed" weekly during the season. If kids are failing we have extra work for them after practice. Like flipping tires and bear crawls. Looking to tweak it some. Here's the question: What is your system for checking grades and the consequences for failing or near failing grades? How about tutorials or study halls? REALLY? ................................? How many points does a tire flip get Timmy Testbow in his Language arts class? If he failed a test, do bear crawls allow him to pass? Have a progressive system in place that will help create opportunities for players to get their grades up (with the right kind of help) and a consequence system for losing playing time or points towards their letter or something. You're punishing a symptom (procrastination) but you are not addressing the disease. Does losing playing time get him points in Language Arts class? Spare the rod spoil the child man. I'm not saying you should run kids into submission but negative reinforcement has a place just as well as positive. Don't get me wrong - give him the skills neccessary, encourage him to do so, give him the time and the resources etc, but to dismiss punishment as unneccssary and ineffective is a mistake. It's not the solution - but it can be a part of it.
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