BallCoach615
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Post by BallCoach615 on Feb 6, 2015 9:04:30 GMT -6
Just wanted to get an idea of what y'all think the next revolution/evolution will be in football. Talking more about high school and college than the pros. We had the spread offense's rise, now the thing seems to be packaged plays. What will be the next thing to come along? |
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Post by agap on Feb 6, 2015 9:36:14 GMT -6
More rules in favor of defense?
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 6, 2015 11:23:00 GMT -6
More rules in favor of defense? Good luck with that. You know what I think? I think they'll be a trend back toward under center downhill run games which means defenses will get back to having to defend that style football. I know what yall are thinking: good luck with that. |
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 6, 2015 11:26:07 GMT -6
More rules in favor of defense? Good luck with that. You know what I think? I think they'll be a trend back toward under center downhill run games which means defenses will get back to having to defend that style football. I know what yall are thinking: good luck with that. I can't see teams going back under center, but I can see more beefy personell packages and jumbo formations being used out of the gun. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using proboards |
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Post by coachdubyah on Feb 6, 2015 11:27:04 GMT -6
Unbalanced Single Wing...
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Post by 33coach on Feb 6, 2015 11:38:39 GMT -6
Just wanted to get an idea of what y'all think the next revolution/evolution will be in football. Talking more about high school and college than the pros. We had the spread offense's rise, now the thing seems to be packaged plays. What will be the next thing to come along? Im thinking it will be 2 things. 1) veer will continue making a comeback 2) 3 back personnel groups |
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Post by brophy on Feb 6, 2015 12:59:09 GMT -6
Quarterbacks with 2 additional arms implanted on their body
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Feb 6, 2015 19:33:12 GMT -6
Just wanted to get an idea of what y'all think the next revolution/evolution will be in football. Talking more about high school and college than the pros. We had the spread offense's rise, now the thing seems to be packaged plays. What will be the next thing to come along? Im thinking it will be 2 things. 1) veer will continue making a comeback 2) 3 back personnel groups Stop encouraging people to run the veer. I want to be the only 1. In the world. Then people might think I'm smarter than I really am! |
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Post by coachjimd on Feb 6, 2015 20:42:56 GMT -6
I know this is a little older but, as a defensive guy, I have been saying for a few years now that the zone read with the quick seam pass option has me very concerned
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Post by Coach.A on Feb 7, 2015 6:38:09 GMT -6
Waiting for Urban Meyer to do something like this next year at OSU which will lead to every other high school team in the country having a 2 QB or 3 QB package in their offense.
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Post by wingtol on Feb 7, 2015 7:01:45 GMT -6
I think everyone should keep spreading it out and stop running the ball. Yeah that it's abandon the run game all together it's a waste of time and too " expensive" to have in an offense any more. So throw it all the time from spread stuff.
Then we will sit back and laugh a sinister laugh as everyone slowly forgets how to defend the run game epically the wing-t!!! It's a perfect plan for world domination!!!! Muhahahahahaha
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Post by irishdog on Feb 7, 2015 7:48:47 GMT -6
Two words…Stanford offense.
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Post by spreadpowero on Feb 7, 2015 8:55:59 GMT -6
I think outside zone will soon be a thing of the past. Teams are seeing to many negative plays on outside zone, and I think they will drop the play in favor of Oregon's sweep play. Urban Meyer put it in after the Virginia Tech loss. It made a huge difference for them. Expect more high school teams to do the same.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 9:23:02 GMT -6
Single shell defenses to counteract the tempo stuff
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Post by kad02002 on Feb 7, 2015 10:36:25 GMT -6
I'd expect to see more simple, versatile defenses playing predominantly in base (i.e. execution defenses) in part to defend the up tempo teams and in part because of the success of the Seattle Seahawks.
On offense, I'd expect coaches to continue to try to marry "old" offenses to the spread (perhaps Malzahn is the most notable to do so, and we have plenty of shotgun or pistol veer/flexbone team, and now some shotgun double and single wing). This has been going on for some time, but from my observation, it isn't ending any time soon and there will be more innovation.
As with any trend, there will also continue to be many coaches who realize that the spread is not a magic bullet. As others have said, this may lead to a more wholesale return to intricate power running schemes (aka Stanford).
The great thing about the "spread revolution" is that I think it has helped all offenses (basically making football more exciting overall), because if you aren't running the spread, chances are that defenses aren't as good at defending what you do run. It has also been a great vehicle for innovation, obviously. I'm not a spread coach myself, but the landscape of offensive systems is quite diverse and exciting at the moment.
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Post by agame on Feb 7, 2015 10:58:10 GMT -6
IMHO it will be something to do with the xp... Either give you more options 3 point plays etc pie even do away with the xp kick... make it harder to kick Etc etc.. Think it will be down that avenue
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Post by fantom on Feb 7, 2015 11:13:35 GMT -6
IMHO it will be something to do with the xp... Either give you more options 3 point plays etc pie even do away with the xp kick... make it harder to kick Etc etc.. Think it will be down that avenue I don't see that happening in HS ball. The PAT may be nearly automatic in the NFL but it's not nearly so in HS football. |
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Post by spreadpowero on Feb 7, 2015 11:53:42 GMT -6
I wouldn't be suprised if they got rid of kickoffs at the high school level.
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Post by lochness on Feb 7, 2015 12:03:24 GMT -6
Block nobody, read everybody, 11 plays in one.
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Post by vincelombardi on Feb 7, 2015 20:05:25 GMT -6
I wouldn't be suprised if they got rid of kickoffs at the high school level. our high school league did this for two years. We kicked off twice in a game at the start and at half time. Teams had the choice to kick at any time but the kick was moved back to the 35 yard line. we would start on the 35 at the after a score. the league was split 50/50 on liking it or not. It was voted back in for next year after a two year trial. I didnt think it was that big of a deal some people thought it wasn't football. |
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Post by holmesbend on Feb 8, 2015 10:32:13 GMT -6
Some of these are hilarious lol.
In all seriousness, I really think you are going to see the return of the old school come back...I really do. All things three back....
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 8, 2015 11:10:00 GMT -6
Some of these are hilarious lol. In all seriousness, I really think you are going to see the return of the old school come back...I really do. All things three back.... But I'm hoping to remain the only one. |
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Post by blb on Feb 8, 2015 11:48:30 GMT -6
Football has always been a cyclical game.
The option all but disappeared from CFB for couple decades, now it's back and even in NFL.
The Single Wing has had a rebirth.
With the success of Power running-PAP teams like Seahawks, Stanford, Michigan State, the "Pro Style" offense may indeed see a return to popularity.
The Spread in its various forms is here to stay, of course.
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Post by coach2013 on Feb 8, 2015 11:53:09 GMT -6
Just wanted to get an idea of what y'all think the next revolution/evolution will be in football. Talking more about high school and college than the pros. We had the spread offense's rise, now the thing seems to be packaged plays. What will be the next thing to come along? Power football
most likely we will see more teams in the near future running tight single wing plays from the gun, pro I/I wing
Things tend to go full circle.
In our area one of the underdog teams pulled off a very nice season running double wing and I wing while everyone else was in spread.
This was the first time in a very long time that we did not have to defend triple option.
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Post by blb on Feb 8, 2015 12:08:17 GMT -6
It is interesting to see trends by school size as well.
For five years I was in a "big" school league. Virtually every team either was Spread, or had a Spread package (usually base was Pro-I).
The last five years I coached in a league of smaller schools (enrollments ~400-600), Most teams were two-TEs with two or three backs and minimal passing. Only two majored in Spread, with one just going to it last Fall.
Those observations were corroborated in watching the state finals as well. |
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 8, 2015 14:20:34 GMT -6
It is interesting to see trends by school size as well.
For five years I was in a "big" school league. Virtually every team either was Spread, or had a Spread package (usually base was Pro-I).
The last five years I coached in a league of smaller schools (enrollments ~400-600), Most teams were two-TEs with two or three backs and minimal passing. Only two majored in Spread, with one just going to it last Fall.
Those observations were corroborated in watching the state finals as well. I have made similar observations. |
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Post by holmesbend on Feb 9, 2015 7:52:21 GMT -6
Some of these are hilarious lol. In all seriousness, I really think you are going to see the return of the old school come back...I really do. All things three back.... But I'm hoping to remain the only one. You and me both. |
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Post by newt21 on Feb 9, 2015 10:20:05 GMT -6
I think the use of more tight ends period be it one, two, or even three. Seems to me that when things "come back around" it is after teams have gone away for one reason or another only to find out that their defensive counterparts are either having trouble defending or don't like defending certain things (double tight, TE away from trips, etc.).
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Post by coachfloyd on Feb 9, 2015 16:52:35 GMT -6
I think the use of more tight ends period be it one, two, or even three. Seems to me that when things "come back around" it is after teams have gone away for one reason or another only to find out that their defensive counterparts are either having trouble defending or don't like defending certain things (double tight, TE away from trips, etc.). The problems with te's is they are usually all playing defense. I had 3 two years ago that could play and we rolled them in and almost stayed in two tight. Last year I only had one and he couldn't play. |
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Post by pvogel on Feb 9, 2015 17:53:49 GMT -6
It looks like the only thing we can be sure of is more change.
As for TEs- I'm not so sure the game is going that way. I've always said that in order for me to have a TE I need to have 8 linemen first. Maybe It's just the areas I've been, but I've never seen that luxury. I coached 1 year at a school with a decent TE. We've always needed more linemen. Those "Tight Ends" have always served much more value as an Offensive Tackle. And yes, TEs tend to be scooped and horded by the DL coach early.
I think the participation numbers for this sport are declining, and especially with bigger kids. I see lots of big kids around HS campuses. But they are soft and unwilling to participate in any kind of physical activity.
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