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Post by hsrose on Jun 23, 2008 12:13:14 GMT -6
Branding - players at Cal Poly SLO used to do that in the 80's when I was there. I know it happens all over the place. When it's a tradition/been done before I can see it generating the idea to do that - carry on the tradition, mark myself as part of a group, shared suffering makes stronger relationships, belong to something greater than myself type of thing.
My quandry here I guess is the possible connection between a new HC and DC (and a couple others he brought in) with lots of tat's and a seemingly new thing at the school in the group branding/burning. If this is the case - the appearance of the HC and DC have provided the idea for the branding - then it would be very clear support of our presumed influence on our players.
I'll be looking at this and see what turns up.
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Post by hsrose on Jun 22, 2008 19:42:34 GMT -6
Junior just got back from a football camp at CU last week. Had a good time, did well he says. Anyway, got back with his friends from the HS team. Yesterday I see this very strange bruise on his upper arm, looks like a really good hit - black circle, streaking, I'm trying to figure out what he hit so hard. Today my daughter comes and says that "Dad (you lame-o), that's not a bruise, that's a burn mark. He and some other football boys branded themselves."
Oh, ok, this is new. I haven't heard anything about players here, as a group, branding themselves. Some of the past players have tat's and one had some cutting/freeze branding, but nothing as a group.
Both the new HC and his DC have a substantial number of tat's and the attitude to match. I have to think that the tat's on the coaches must have had some influence. Not sure how I feel about this just yet.
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Post by hsrose on Jun 16, 2008 7:05:39 GMT -6
When I took over a youth team my biggest fear, not having coached football before, was the parents getting in my face about little Johnny not playing here or there. I was also very concerned about finding the players to play. So, I went with a mini-combine at our tryouts and then a full day of testing on our first day of practice. My age group was 8-12's.
The tryouts were run by the league. All the players went through a line-up and interview thing where the coaches would ask questions of each player. Then they did a warm up, and then a 40. The 40 was followed by a 4-corner drill with backpedal, shuffle, etc. After that the players were divided into groups and sent to meet each team. This was where I had the mini-combine.
I split the players into 4 groups. 1 went and jumped dots, another for 10-yd sprints, another to 20-yd sprints, and the last went for photo in front of a board that gave me their height, like in a mug shot. We'd then rotate so I got numbers on everyone.
That gave me enough information to formulate a draft strategy.
Once they got to the team practice we did a PPK-type of thing so that every player got a chance to show their skills. Found that when standing in front of everyone and having to perform most of the players started realizing where they should be (line/RB) and just followed. We also did our combine tests for any player that we didn't draft (hat picks done a the end of the draft). We did a tag thing where the RB tried to get through a 15x10 yd. corridor against a defender, which showed us who could move. At that age group we also played tag a few times, faster, more agile players made quick work of the others. We also did the 5-10-5 shuttle run.
Everything was recorded into Excel, which then did all the rankings and calculations. The calculations ended with an overall ranking of the players which we then used as a guide in making assignments. top 6 were initial candidates for backs, next 4 were receivers or LB's, that type of thing.
All in all we hit speed, agility, elusiveness, and skills. The kids knew what was happening. I found that I really didn't have to force a kid to play line once they, and the parents, saw what everyone else was doing. Making everything in the open made it clear why Johnny was playing where he was.
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Jun 8, 2008 19:12:41 GMT -6
We've been 'Bone option-based for the past 4 seasons. The last season we were a bad team, 2-8, shutout 4 times.
Our numbers were:
356 rushes for 2,226 yards. 11 fumbles total.
104 options (triple and double/speed), 4 fumbles, 3 on pitch. 487 yards
31/91 passing for 412 yards, 1 TD, 7 picks. 20 sacks.
Good? Bad? I don't have anything to compare it with. But these are turnover numbers from a not very good offensive team.
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Post by hsrose on May 10, 2008 11:08:53 GMT -6
I wish we had held Jr. back or started him later. He was the tallest, largest, kid in his age group. We started him and the academic problems started as well. I'm fully convinced that boys, in general, should start school as late as possible due to emotional maturity factor.
My son will be 16 when he starts his Sr. year in a few months. He'll turn 17 at the end of September. 2nd year starting QB in a 'Bone option offense.
Here in our NorCal area they don't hold anyone back for any reason. Well, as it was explained to us, in several conferences, only in very, very exceptional cases will they ever hold a child back. Too hard on the (parents) self-esteem.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 29, 2008 13:08:39 GMT -6
NCS - After the final hole of the men's golf championship the NCS basically shuts off/goes away/hibernates until the 08/18 date. We could have 2xday in full pads for the full summer if we wanted. No restrictions on equipment, players, coaches, hours, etc. We could organize scrimmages, etc. It's really strange when compared to the other schools I see here.
Now, do something during school and the s*** flies.
The concept of hell week, to me anyway, is a carryover from the old (as in me) days when everyone did whatever they wanted all summer and then showed up and everyone had to get in shape in a short time. Now days we're working all summer in preparation for the start of fall practice. Hell week has lost the meaning when they've been running and lifting all summer, putting in plays, passing leagues, etc.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 21, 2008 10:23:32 GMT -6
There is another thread where I offered a consolidated (MS Word) document that had all of the suggestions that I could find here and on other boards. Send me a PM and I'll send it to you. Not trying to sell it or anything, but we're all in the same boat and this just puts everything in 1 spot. I've already sent out a bunch with the last fund raising thread.
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Apr 9, 2008 13:14:01 GMT -6
RE: We shoot from one endzone, if you get a good camera you can see well enough to the other side.
What is the zoom on the camera? I've always tried to restrict the zoom to the manual zoom.
Where does everyone place the endzone camera - 10 yards off the endline and centered on the goal posts? Any issues with ref's/others on using the camera? I've only seen a couple of these in our area.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 22, 2007 8:28:39 GMT -6
How effective do you find a pre-season jamboree (multi-team scrimmages) to be compared to scrimmaging a single team?
In our section (CA NCS) have a 10 game/week regular season with week 0 being a scrimmage game. If you have a pre-season week 0 scrimmage, have you ever done a 4-5 team jamboree? This season we're scheduled to scrimmage a team that is not in our section and is 50 miles away. They are coming to our place, we went there last year. I'm thinking I may ask them to participate in a jamboree and find 2 other teams to come in as well.
In a 4-team event you would scrimmage each of the other 3 teams in a 20-minute set, actually more time than a regular game. In each scrimmage you would have 10 min on offense, 10 on defense. I know there is a lot more work to manage those teams/players/officials/site/etc., but it seems that a jamboree environment would present more challenges/different things to your team than a single team and would be beneficial.
Any recommendations/war stories about these type of jamboree's would be welcome.
Thanks
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Jun 7, 2006 14:04:13 GMT -6
2005 was my first at the HS varsity level (assistant) - I had coached youth the prior 3 seasons. I borught my filming process to the HS and it worked well. We went digital, no VHS. I got 2 soph's to do the filming of both our JV and Varsity games and our opponents scout games.
I would import the digital clips from the camera into my Mac. I would then burn a straight game DVD, be it scout or our games. We would then go over those DVD's the next morning at the player stretching/light workouts.
For some opponents I would then consolidate several games into basic cutups - offense and defense DVD's. Each DVD would show all of the plays, the running plays, passing plays, scores, special teams, and trick plays. I would give copies to the HC, OC, and DC on Monday.
We don't exchange film so we have to do our own scouting. When we scout, we can film pretty much anything we want as long as we don't get pushy or interfere.
By having the video in digital format, each play was a separate clip. I have a stats package (TDVideo) that I would move the clips into and then enter the play data. From that I could generate scouting reports, either for our games or opponents. This also allowed for searches so we could mark highlight plays for either the year-end or player highlight DVD's. It took me just over an hour to complete a 12 min. player highlight DVD from 13 games.
I made 48 separate DVD's/projects/games last season and burned over 350 DVD's.
We will be expanding what we do with the video this year by seeing if we can add a second camera angle, more extensive scouting data entry, and adding more cutups.
The quality of digital over VHS is astounding. The coaches went from seeing dark and light blobs, to seeing the fingers on the OL.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 5, 2007 7:51:02 GMT -6
Hair - Not an issue as far as looks, etc. But, I've heard a couple of coaches say the restrict it because more hair makes could make the helmet not fit correctly. Is there a length/amount that could affect the fit of a helmet?
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Post by hsrose on Dec 20, 2006 10:11:00 GMT -6
We started running with minimal TE 2 years ago when all of our TE’s were playing baseball in playoffs and summer travel leagues. We didn’t have them to practice with at spring ball or summer, so we didn’t use them. They were surprised.
We run the triple & midline options, no shotgun. We’ll go the 2 WR’s with the slot, I backs, and will also go wishbone backfield with 2 WR’s. Having the 3 wideouts does “slow down” the number of defensive formations we see, we tend to see the same things each week. We’ll get the 2 C’s out wide, a walk-off backer or S/FS coming up on the slot, a single S, and a 4-3 look. Given that look, with the triple option where we don’t block folks, gives us an advantage.
Having the TE does add 1 more gap, but it brings in an extra man as well.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 19, 2007 14:35:11 GMT -6
The link below describes the practice definitions, etc. for the California Northern Section. www.cifncs.org/sports/PRACTICE%20AND%20CONDITIONING%20RULES%20INTERPRETATIONS.pdfText from the document: ---------------------------------------------------- During the Summer Time Definition Summer time is defined as the period of time between last CIF competition of the school year (currently the CIF Boys’ Golf Championship) until the NCS published first official day of practice in the fall. During the summer time NCS/CIF bylaws concerning use of facilities, equipment, assignment of a coach by the school or school district, practices and non-NCS/CIF contests do not apply. However, all NCS and CIF Eligibility Bylaws related to pre-enrollment contact and undue influence apply both during the school year and in the summer. Summer is not open season to recruit students to attend or transfer to a certain school. During the Summertime If, during the time period defined above as summertime, the school or district administration approves the use of its facilities and equipment, a coach may work with one or more potential team members. If the school administration approves, examples are: 1. Coaches may have a regular practice everyday of the week, including Sunday. 2. Coaches may schedule two practices a day. 3. Coaches may work with an individual student on the track, in the pool, on the field, or in the gym. 4. School A may invite School B to play a game. 5. Football coaches may check out equipment for potential football players to go to camp. 6. Football coaches may take potential football players to camp. 7. Coaches may sponsor clinics at their school. 8. Coaches may invite more than one school to participate in multiple games or scrimmages. 9. Schools may practice together. 10. Schools may use school uniforms, balls, protective gear, protective equipment, facilities, etc. ---------------------------------------------------- Spring football practice is 10 days total, helmets, ball, and bags only. NCS site - www.cifncs.org/sports/football.shtml
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Post by hsrose on Dec 14, 2006 22:50:48 GMT -6
I've seen it mentioned several times, at both youth and high school, that filming an opponent is unethical in some way. Here in CA there's no film exchange so if you want film you get it yourself.
How is filming an opponent get to be unethical/inappropriate?
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Post by hsrose on Apr 20, 2007 7:48:09 GMT -6
When I coached youth we had platoon by league rules. But there was no crossover so the offense was a separate team from the defense. I would setup an offensive schedule and a defensive schedule that were mirrors - team warm up, team tackling/blocking, and then units, groups, and then usually team scrimmage/scout.
I don't think that is what you are looking for as you probably have players that cover each other (my #1 RB is your #2 S).
If you want I do have my practice plans that were pretty detailed for that separate platooning structure. They are in Excel and I can send them to you if you want. It would take me a couple of days to pull them from the archive.
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Post by hsrose on May 29, 2007 6:53:26 GMT -6
I played 6-man as a freshmen at a school of 120 in 6 grades. 7 teachers in the school. Very fast, fun game. We had 9 players on JV and 11 on varsity.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 27, 2008 13:46:09 GMT -6
North Coast Section - California
Spring Ball - 10 days, helmets and footballs only. Usually the mid-late May.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 19, 2006 13:41:34 GMT -6
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Post by hsrose on Feb 14, 2007 22:54:34 GMT -6
When I coached the little guys we had our plays named - off-tackle right, sweep right, etc. Now that I'm at the HS I entered a system of numbers. Thought that was the way.
Using play names would be easier and would more truly reflect what happens on the play. The option really is run "in that direction" and not at the 2-hole. How many names/plays could you realistically implement in a HS offense? Is there some kind of naming hierarchy that this newbie might find somewhere?
We could run most of our offense from a word-based system. My concern would be how extensive it would be.
Casey
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Post by hsrose on Feb 14, 2007 13:23:47 GMT -6
What numbering/identification scheme do you use when calling plays?
The last few seasons we used 9-7-3-5-1-0-2-4-6-8 to identify the holes (odd left, even right). This season the new HC is bringing in the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 version with 5 over the center. Our play calls are player+hole so our triple call was 22 Lead (2-Tailback, 2-B gap on the right).
Not a problem with using either method. But...
In the 1-9 mode I'm having a difficult time matching the play call with where the ballcarrier is really going. For instance, last year we ran the 11 and 10 midline, with the 10/11 telling us which way to open and run pitch. This year I'll have the same play, but it's 14/16, 1 gap out from where it is really going. Same with our triple option call. It was 13/12, now it will be 13/17, again 1 gap wider ("it just reflects the truth that, yeah, while the FB starts for the 14/16 gap, he never gets there so we just make it 13/17").
If the play call doesn't really reflect where the POA is, does the meaning of the call then go away? Would I then be left with "midline left/right", "triple left/right" in place of 14 midline? If I can't use the player + hole construct all the time then does that cause confusion? We're very simple - few formations and few plays - so this probably won't be an issue.
Not sure if this makes sense, but I'm a computer tweek and it just bothers me when things don't line up.
Thanks
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Feb 8, 2007 9:46:02 GMT -6
In the head coach application package I put together I called out an "Academic Advocate" position that would work with the players, coaches, and faculty to check on grades, make sure the players got into the correct summer school classes, collect progress reports, and validate the "Academic All American" program. I didn't get the position, but think that such a position would be well worth it.
Our new HC is just starting with the weightroom stuff. M-T-TH-F for weights, W is study hall.
I was also going to set academic goals for the team such as 100% graduation, 2.75 team GPA for varsity, etc.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 26, 2007 8:12:06 GMT -6
We have weight/SAQ workouts twice a day, 0600-0800 and 1700-1900. This goes M-T-TH-F. The HC takes the morning session and assistants take the afternoon sessions on a rotating basis. Most of the players attend the morning sessions. The sessions are split with weights and then SAQ (or whatever the coach wants to do).
There was no coordination of which coaches will take which afternoon sessions. This is a merger of two staffs, our returning staff and the new staff that came from our town rivals. I know nothing about weights (yet, but I'm learning) so I pretty much babysit the lifting - they know what they are supposed to do.
On Wednesdays we have a no-pads practice from 4-6 where most of the coaches show up. We run it like an in-season practice. We are likely to have passing league each Wed. as well.
We will start conditioning week on Aug. 13, and double-days on the 20th.
We're in the Northern Section in CA and they shut down from June to Aug so we can do whatever we want. They basically shut their eyes during the summer. With school approval, we could run full-contact double-days every day during the summer if we wanted.
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Jan 17, 2007 10:47:56 GMT -6
Our situation is that the likely QB next season will be a Jr., but he's young, only 15 at the start of the season. He's got a gun, broke 2 fingers/hands last season (1 LB and 1 WR).
The backup is likely to be the Sr., wrestler, baseball, starting DE last season, played RB/FB/QB as well. Issue there is that is he shorter and can't see over the line when he drops to pass. Very well built, smart, has some speed, and we can move him, etc. He doesn't want to play QB but will if we need him to. Runs the option well. So, I don't necessarily see a big drop off if we go to him, other than alterations in the passing game.
I think that our natural hesitation in having the QB play defense is the invenstment cost in getting the QB to be good. The footwork, the reads, throwing the ball, leading, etc. We spend a lot of time working with the QB to ensure that he can do everything as well as possible. To lose that by him stopping an off-tackle run is not what we want to see. It's somehow better to lose the guy making a pass or a pitch rather than a tackle.
Thanks for all the discussion on this. We won't know until we know, but I've got some new items to consider. Please, let's continue this topic.
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Jan 16, 2007 10:37:19 GMT -6
How many have their starting HS QB play both ways? What defensive positions do they play?
Our QB next season would be a candidate for going both ways, but he is not a S/DB type, he's 6' and 215 and would probably be a DE/LB. Not sure of his speed yet so I don't know where he would go, but certainly not in the defensive backfield. We're a triple-option team so he will be running the ball as well.
In the playoffs last year we played our QB as a DB and he did fine. But he wasn't hitting each play like he would as a DE/LB.
What are your considerations when looking to play the QB both ways?
Thanks
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Mar 31, 2006 15:31:18 GMT -6
DVD Studio Pro allows me to do more with the DVD organization and buring that did iDVD. With iDVD I would add x.dv files that I could generate out of iMovie or TDVideo. Problem was that each took space, so if I had a play that I wanted in multiple places/cutups I would have to burn it in multiple times.
By moving to DVDSP I would add the clips and then drag them to where I wanted. That made it a lot easier to add tracks/cutups and change the content, rather than having to regenerate the x.dv files each time. With the "pro"version I got greater control over the content and how it was presented. I use very little of the total capability of DVDSP, but what I use is vitally important to me.
I still use iDVD to generate the quick and dirty DVD's for our early Saturday morning team meetings and initial coaching sessions. By Monday I have the DVD's generated through DVDSP with all the cutups for the coaches.
I was surprised how effective this was at generating the DVD's. The coaches were extremely pleased by the results - beat the hell out of the VHS tapes.
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Post by hsrose on Mar 31, 2006 11:16:09 GMT -6
Apple 20" iMac - $1700-1900 (new from store) iMovie included iDVD included
TDVideo - $900 (football stats, non-linear editing) DVD Studio Pro - $800 Epson printer (prints CD/DVD's) - $200 External Firewire drive 300GB - $300
That's what I use. This past season I produced 48 separate DVD's and burned 200+ copies.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 10, 2007 8:02:38 GMT -6
so the situation as of this morning is that the planned Daddy is interviewing for a new job (medical/ER tech/dresses in scrubs) position that would let him coach. Has his 2nd interview this afternoon. If that goes well he is the Daddy. If not, then I am the Daddy.
The main thing I can offer is consistency and the same face each day. I can learn the OL stuff and I already know the blocks we need. I would welcome the challenge and the opportunity to work with these young men, but he would be a much better alternative than me. My overall responsibility is to make sure all areas are finely tuned. He can do a better job with the OL than I can so I hope this works out today.
Thanks for the input on this, I really appreciate it.
Casey
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Post by hsrose on Jul 9, 2007 13:47:32 GMT -6
Our nice little cadre of coaches is having a couple of pains recently. We had 2 guys, very experienced, lined up to be the line coaches. 1 became a school VP and his time is now very limited, and the other's work has changed and it is not likely that he will be able to do more than help out. Had a similar problem last season where we had a couple of technical coaches, but no "Daddy" for the lines and it showed - inconsistent play, attitude, training, etc. I feel that they need a consistent coach with them, their “daddy” to ensure that things are consistent with them.
The only real candidate for the daddy right now is me, the OC (new position this season). The problem is that I have no real experience in the OL, other than 3 years of youth ball. There are still the technical coaches with us so I wouldn't have to coach everything.
So the question is "Is it better to have an inexperienced coach all the time or repeat what we've done (group/committee) and likely be inconsistent?"
Thanks
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Post by hsrose on May 24, 2007 13:20:54 GMT -6
Interesting grading structure at our school. No D’s or F’s - In their place are I’s and NC’s. I for incomplete (D), NC for No Credit (F).
District policy for participation is 2.0 GPA or better. School policy for participation is a 2.0 or better and no more than 1 I and no NC’s. If a player has an NC at reporting time he is no longer eligible until is it an I or better. If he as 2 I’s he is ineligible until at least 1 is cleared.
If the student has an I at the end of the semester they receive no credit for the class. They can clear the I by signing a contract with the instructor which spells out what the student has to do to raise the I to a C. Student, teacher, parent, and school admin sign and it’s filed. Student completes the work, turns it in, teacher approves, C is awarded and the student gets credit. This can go on until the teacher is satisfied. An NC means summer school, it cannot be raised to an I and then to a C.
The school does not let a kid off with a D – they have to do the work or they don’t get credit for the class.
Some of the schools have players that take weightlifting, a shop/elective class, and then TA for the PE instructor/coach, getting 3 A’s, and then get D’s in history, math, and English. Result is a 2.0+ GPA and they are eligible.
Casey IHS Vikings
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Post by hsrose on Mar 21, 2007 13:25:07 GMT -6
I'm a new OC at a HS that runs the option. We will continue to run the triple/double/midline options so we're not installing a new offensive scheme.
I'm planning the objectives for our spring practice that will be at the end of May-early June. We will have 9 days of helmets-only-after-school practices. In that time, splitting with the defense, and with far too many players to manage effectively, I need to get the players reacquainted with the offense and start putting people in the right slots.
My base objectives are: 1) Introduction of the base run game 2) Introduction of the base pass game 3) Initial personnel assessment
We will have 2 or 3 formations.
For the run game I'm looking at 4 plays - the triple, lead/iso, midline, and wedge. Our other 2 primary plays are the sweep and trap. I'm planning on installing those 4 base plays during this 9-day span. The QB’s and backs are experienced with the options so we’re not starting from scratch.
For the passing game I'm planning on working our 3-step, 5-step, and sprint-out passing game. I will have to find a completely new set of receivers. We will throw about 20-25% of the total plays so the run/pass time allocation will be worked on a comparable %.
There is a lot more to the offense, but I'm trying to be conservative and/or realistic about what I can get done in this time.
We will end spring ball on 06/08. The next week is graduation. The following week, 06/18-21, we will host a 4-day contact (very controlled) camp with 5 other teams from the area. What I come out of spring ball with will be our starting point for the camp. After that comes summer conditioning and that is where we will start to polish things.
Any recommendations for recommendations, objectives, things that have worked for you, tips for managing a lot of players, how aggressively to approach this, things to be aware of, traps that I could avoid? This is the first time wearing the OC hat and it doesn’t quite fit right just yet.
Thanks
Casey IHS Vikings
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