Game on Friday, kid gets a hit. Trainer takes over. May keep on sideline, may send with parents to emergency room if severe enough. Trainer sets up next baseline test depending on suspected severity.
Once they get into any injury they are in charge of it, I make sure that none of the coaches have any input on injured players. We are not medical personnel and are not qualified to make any injury-related decisions. Wrap up blood, yeah, put ice on it, yeah, but anything else is going to the trainer.
The files in the DropBox are the medical procedures for the team/coaches and the concussion protocols.
All football players here have to do the Concussion Impact Baseline Test prior to any contact. If a player is suspected of a concussion they are turned over to the trainer. They administer the test retake and make the determination of a concussion or not. The trainers are the gatekeepers for this. If the kid is concussed then they inform the school that starts their protocols - no homework, no computer work, no pressure. Parents are informed of what they need to be doing with Johnny. Player is basically gone until the retest shows they are back to normal. Then that starts the 5-day increasing physical activity with the team. If that clears then they can play again.
Had a Freshmen get a concussion, got run over in practice and hit the back of his head on the ground. That's a Tuesday. Concussion confirmed, here's the protocols everyone, it's in process. Trainer comes to me last Tuesday and says that Johnny has a likely second concussion now. Seems while on the concussion protocol he was swimming somewhere and got hit in the head with a water polo ball. I'm wondering who gets credit for that concussion.
50 - Yeah, their 1st former coach was a great guy, great coach, did really well, built a very solid program. 1 moment of overzealousness and the program is in shambles. I kept watching, like a vulture, in hopes the guy would retire or something, never thought that he would, but what happened is pretty nutso. And now they got this going on. Dang good lesson on how fast something good can come crashing down.
They fired the coach, he’s still at the school as a math teacher, and opened the HC position. I applied, but they hired a pro football player, went for the big deal coach with very little HS experience. And here is my recap of when I interviewed for the job - coachhuey.com/thread/75958/30-000-feet-interview-recap
I get this in an email late last night from a relative who is in upper levels of the academics at another school in the area:
This (http://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/high-school/article169030192.html) was published the day before he was fired... I do not think that it was the final "firing factor" as there were rumors of swearing at players at the first game Friday, drug bust fo players and possibly coach by PR PD at Paso High yesterday, recruited players leading other players to spit on players that were "ratting out" the coach, etc. etc. And then there is the verified reports of coach not having drivers license do to past DUI, texting players for rides, tape recordings of coach calling students vulgar and inappropriate names, coach's financial woes, students transferring out, and misusing Booster funds. <Good Soldier> was named the interim coach.. <GS> is great and local but no credential or varsity experience. He did coach JV and is the current defensive coach. It is a very ugly and embarrassing situation. Very bad for students. I hope all is well in frogville. I see all that you do for those players and wish the Bearcats had the same.... that reminds me.. <Superintendent> suggested changing the school colors. Black was first suggestion,, then cardinal.. all new school staff shirts and paint is bright red (Cardinal??) instead of the traditional darker red that we all new as crimson... he now denies suggesting the change.
Today I looked up the word "Schadenfreude" just to make sure that I had it right. And I did - the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another. Normally I don't go in for that, waste of time usually. But today, I have a new found appreciation for Schadenfreude. I'm not against the HC here, my Schadenfreude is directed at the administration that I dealt with during and after the interview process. They got what they wanted and it came back to bite them.
Now all is right with the world. Except that I still need some OG’s and a backup QB. And a DE. Just 1 DE is all I need. Well, maybe the DE and a Mike. Yeah, that would do it.
So today I started getting calls and then some text messages from a number I don't recognize. A prospective player, hereafter known as Child_Unit, met my JV HC at the back to school night and got interested in playing football here. He's a freshmen, they don't know what they are doing, so we are more lenient with these newbies. He's also a transfer so there's some more leeway. I ask who it is on the text and it's the Mom_Unit. I text with the Mom_Unit about what needs to be done and she starts telling me about their most recent football experience.
I'm laughing and PO'd at the same time. I hate when I hear stories like this, I think it makes all coaches look bad. I can't vouch for this other than what Mom_Unit has said here so it may be total claptrap.
Mom_Unit: His last experience was not great. I think that made him not like football. Coaches were hard. I totally expect it. But some of the things they said to them shocked me. he was the only new player, the head coach put him in a position that wasn't right for him (wide receiver?) (to impress me, single Mom. Which didn't work) the coach thought if he gave him a good position it would get him a date with me!!!! No structure, no fun, no positivity. I think he will love football with the right coaches and team. He's FAST.
Coach_Unit: He came by and got the papers to get started. Don’t worry about the fundraising paper. We’ll get him going, he’s got a good JV head coach and I think you will like the experience here.
Mom_Unit: Ok great. Is it the last fundraiser?
Coach_Unit: No we still have discount cards to sell if you want. The sales are over but Child_Unit could still participate. We also have the Grape Stomp in Murphy's. that's the last one.
Mom_Unit: Ok. I will ask him if he wants too. I like fundraisers we usually do well. He should be home in the next few hours. I've never sent the boys shopping before. So this could be interesting. But thank you so much for all the help. He seemed excited. He's kinda shy at first. He loves to do track. Do these 2 sports over lap?
Coach_Unit: No, track is spring. Very good coach, he'll really like him. The cards have a LOT of value on them. When we meet up you'll see.
Mom_Unit: Ok cool... I will be there for his first practice tomorrow.
Coach_Unit: It will be good to meet you. Playing your son to get a date? That's a new one.
Mom_Unit: Oh yeah. I was very clear that I had no interest.... he asked me to borrow money. Hahaha I just laughed. He is exact words were u look like ur doing good in life, u drive a BMW. Do u think u can help me with some money til I get paid??? Ummmm no u have no job. Ok so to be HONEST. I know NOTHING about football. U will figure that out. But he had him as a line man?? Haha prob not spelled right. But Child_Unit was to nice to plow into the other players. He was bigger and stronger. But to nice to hit em. Sooo I asked if there was another position he could try. Well he thought that was a good opportunity to get a date by putting him in a good position. So he made him a wide receiver. Well he's fast and can run SHORT distance but couldn't catch the ball for the life of him. The whole situation was a mess. I bought EVERY SINGLE snack for every game and even brought treats for practice. Had the entire team over for a pool party/sleepover. The money that was supposed to got to me for snacks I said to donate to the team fund for the end party. Well there was no party and he kept all the money. Hundreds of dollars. So the experience was bad for both of us. I paid $30 a pair and bought the entire team a pair of pink Nike elite socks for Breast cancer month. He took the credit and said he paid for them because he loves his team. Hahaha I was shocked.
He coaches at a school of 2050 or so, hard to tell day to day. He's got 190 - contacted me to see if we had some extra shoulder pads and knee pads he could purchase.
This isn't hard/fast rule, I mean I can't imagine the sheer logistics of 150+ players in a program. The intent here was to see if a program has close to 10% of the overall school enrollment could that me a measure of a good program. I think that there would be some real diminishing returns here - I coached against a team that the school was 4500 students. By that rule they would have 450 players which is just not real.
But I think that for most of us we would be pretty happy to get 10% of the students in the program.
One of the coaches I talk with says that he considers a program to be healthy when it gets about 10% of the school enrollment out for football. Today we're at 54/~650 so we're at 8% or so. Last year we were 68/700 or 9%. His school has 190/2050 so he's at 9%.
You guys buy into that idea, that a healthy program should have close to 10% of total enrollment? If that is 'good', can you then say that 'when we get to X% then we are hurting, and when we get to Y% we are in real trouble?
We have a state champ team from 5 years ago that has 18 on their roster this year. Apparently finished a game last week with 12 active.
Just talked with a HC that I coached with a few years ago. He's in one of the more competitive leagues in the NorCal area (EBAL) and we talked about numbers.
His school has 2,300 students. They just cut their JV 2 days ago and have gone Fr/So and varsity. They had 22 Frosh, 20 JV, and 47 varsity. This years Junior class had 55 frosh, says there are 24 left from that class.
Another team in their league has 22 frosh, 20 JV, 44 varsity, but they have no intention of cutting anything.
Another team in the league has 54 varsity, but usually carries 65+.
One of the upper tier smaller schools just dropped their JV and has frosh and varsity.
Another team at a large, 2k+ school, has 27 varsity.
LBP had 4464 per recent assessment by US New and World Report, 5090 in 2010 per Wikipedia.
We're at 50 right now, 21 on JV (Freshmen & Sophomores), 29 (if 2 kids come out who are out of the area until school starts next week. We had 68 at this time last year. When I started here 5 seasons ago there was a Frosh, JV, and varsity levels. Frosh team went away the next season One issue was that it got to be too hard to schedule the games because teams were dropping all the time.
brophy - Rugby. Played it 1 year intramural in college. 2nd game I tackle a guy, get my head behind, and catch a cleat on the orbit bone over my left eye. Nice big cut right on the bone. Blood all over my face and head and jersey, got the bandage at an angle over the head, looked very cool. Ended with 6 stitches in it later that night. Another guy I went to school with broke his neck in a scrum. Got bent over and the scrum just crushed him. He was in a chair for 2-3 years after that I remember, eventually walking with canes. Lost track after that. We've had couple big time football player recruits, not many, elect to play college team/club rugby rather than go football scholarship.
Some participation numbers from CIF (CA). Lacrosse is up 7.4%, football is down 3.12%
tothehouse - In another thread I stated we've dropped from 65 or so last year to 45 this year. -20 and I don't know why. We were successful last year, I expected to remain steady or increase. But we dropped ~25-30% of the team. Concussions is one of the issues.
I was talking with a news photo lady yesterday, her son plays for our rivals. Her son got one last year so she knows the fear of it. I was able to talk with her about the injury/concussion fear and she was unaware of the materials that are out there.
That's why I think it's so critical for everyone in this profession to prepare ourselves for the conversations that will come with scared parents. If we can't at least offer a reasonable, well researched, position on the concussion situation then we will continue to lose parents and kids.
Bottom line, Hazrati said, is this: “None of these post-mortem brain autopsies are going to solve the CTE (mystery), at all. You cannot solve the cause of CTE by looking at brains of deceased people.”
As yet, there is no way to detect CTE in the living.
“That first step is not solved yet — whether there’s a definitive link to concussions,” Hazrati said. “So how can you even think about who’s the most susceptible? Who’s not? What age is the worst? Just looking at these brains (posthumously), you cannot say any of that. It’s just impossible at this point.”
Researchers compared the cognitive function of 52 living, retired former male Scottish international rugby players — who’d suffered an average of a whopping 14 concussions apiece — against 29 non-rugby players of similar age.
“There were no significant associations between number of concussions and performance on cognitive tests,” the study found. What’s more, although “persisting symptoms attributed to concussion” were more common in rugby players who’d suffered more than nine concussions apiece, “these symptoms were not perceived to affect social or work functioning.”
We had our 1st day of practice today and the numbers are way down. We had 21 on varsity and 20 on JV. I've got 3 kids out of the area, likely not back until close to school starting, but the total number of 41-45 players is down from the 63-70 of last year. That's a big, big drop. Hopefully the kids will get back and we'll get some additional freshmen showing up, but otherwise we're going to be Iron Man football at all levels.
One of the statements that Dr. Samadani has made is that CTE is in people who never show symptoms/dementia and who never had concussions/played football, it's part of how we humans are made. My grandmother, I don't think ever played in the NFL, had dementia for quite some time before she passed.
And no, I'm not trying to trivialize a very serious issue.
This is my recap of the video from the above thread.
Ok, I went back and watched it again and have some times where things are said that are possibly of interest. Now, don't do the sound-bite thing here, you have to listen to this and really get into it.
01:55 - Insurance, liability coverage for football, will be demise of football, not football itself. 03:20 - Being on a playground, as a youth, is as dangerous as playing football.
04:34 - Biggest causes for brain injuries - accidents (cars, snowmobiles, ATV's, vehicles), homicide, suicide. Says that 11 teenagers die every day from texting and driving. 05:30 - Starts talking about concussion and types of damage and such. 12:20 - There is a higher probability of suicide within 9 years once you have a brain injury. As kids stop playing sports the suicide rate is increasing. Would expect that football players would have a higher rate of suicide but they don't, they are fitter, have better social networks, more friends... 14:58 - Increased sports participation decreases suicide risk.
16:37 - The media are reporting/implying that a connection has been directly linked from concussions (football) to dementia (alzheimer's disease). Biggest factor for dementia is sedentary life style which leads to high blood pressure. 17:33 - Football has not been proven to be a risk factor for dementia.
18:30 - Starts the CTE discussion. 20:50 - No clinical description for CTE, it is something that is found under the microscope, you can have CTE and never show any symptoms at all. You cannot be diagnosed with CTE based on your symptoms. 23:48 - CTE is present in normal folks and in dementia patients. Changes in the brain (CTE) does not mean symptoms (dementia) 26:37 - Does football cause dementia? No, it does not by itself. Football is not a causal factor for developing dementia. There is no compelling evidence that football is related to dementia.
28:15 - Why the media obsession with football/concussion/dementia? Scientists have to justify their research (grants) and companies are looking for profit.
40:30 - Starts a discussion on her workplace and the number of football players in high positions, doctors that let their kids play, that kind of thing.
Overall - Brain injuries are bad, regardless of how they occur. Football does not have a direct link to causing dementia. Treat the injuries - change tackling, reduce hitting, get the kids out of the game.
I think what I'm seeing here is indeed a weeding out of players. Those with stronger character are showing up and working. Those that are weaker, weaker players, weaker character, are not showing up. And when I really look at the list of who is not here I'm not hurt by their absence, they weren't likely to be starters. Do we need numbers, most certainly, but the numbers I do have are the 'better' kids, not just the cash flow kids ("Well, Johnny can't play worth a lick, but he can always be cash flow."). The lower numbers affect our practice structure, and we're razor thin on backups, but the players that are left are the better kids.
And our youth program is seeing the same thing, lower numbers for both coaches and players. They just had their registration a couple of days ago but I haven't seen the numbers.
I'm used to variances in player numbers from year to year. But this is getting to me.
Last year, my 2nd as HC, we go 6-4, get a playoff game (lost it on a slant for TD with :04 left in the game). 4-6 the year before, my first year, and 2-8, 1-9, 1-9 the previous years. Doesn't sound like much but it's the 1st playoffs since 2007 and 1st winning season since '99.
And the reward for doing well? Player numbers are down, coaches numbers are down.
We typically have 33+ varsity players and right now I'm scrapping to get 26. I think I've got 11 seniors and 3 of those are transfers. I can't seem to build interest in playing football, it's almost like the better we do, the fewer players come out. When they were 1-9 4 years ago they had 37 on the roster. At a small school numbers like that are big.
And the coaches. I lost my DC (lost his son), my OC (left for a better job, didn't get it, and now coaching at another school), my QB, and my DL coaches since the start of the year. I've got 2 coaches that haven't taken the time to get their district certs done so they aren't likely to be with us when we start next week. So it looks like my staff of 9 on-field coaches will be 5, maybe 6.
Don't get me wrong, the players that are left are good players, kind of a weeding out of the pretenders, but this is something new to me.
And the strange part - When it was early summer and we were doing football and weights and 7v7 we'd be lucky to get 15 kids to come out. Now that we're in the dead time, no football stuff, just agilities and running and weights, we're getting 26 each day.
I send them texts and emails using the 8to18 system that the school to record player registrations, insurance, emergency contacts, and insurance. Problem is that I have a crippled account since I am not a teacher/admin so I can send to everyone (parents and players) or nobody, no groups or lists or anything.
I send them emails from my computer with addresses I've harvested from their player registrations, including Hudl. That lets me slice/dice who I send what better than the 8to18 system.
I sent them texts (mostly) and emails (much less, I use my computer for that) using DialMyCalls.com with addresses I've harvested from their player registrations. This costs $$ but is not that expensive ($25 buys 300 credits, a text message is 1 credit). It gives me a number of message formats (text, phone recordings, text-to-voice) and tells me who got what so I know which phones are not text and who read it.
I manage a Twitter account (bhhs_football) that I use for sayings, motivations, good mentions, players doing well, that kind of thing.
I manage a team website - www.bullfrogfootball.com - that has our full schedule (Google calendar), info on all fundraisers, team events, links, all that kind of thing.
I will also hand out flyers after practices.
I was once told by a youth parent that I was the first coach that over communicated.
Warranty - I don't think that it technically voids the warranty. As explained to me by a rep it's that the manufacturer won't accept liability for equipment that is knowingly improperly modified/used ('alter the integrity of the...") . Adding a cap, a liner, a 5 lb face mask, drilling air vents, would alter the integrity of the original design (and associated testing and certifications) which effectively de-certifies the helmet. Something happens they will ask the coach in court 'Was the helmet modified in any way?" and if 'yes' then they are out of the liability issue. Probably not anywhere near that clean, but that's the gist of it.
We are doing the following this year: Sanitation Station - Pooper scoopers for a local parade last March. Takes 4 players and 2 coaches. EteamSponsor email campaign - Players have option to solicit $175 in donations rather than submitting the emails. 18 players did this, netted $4.5k Parking - We did the parking for a local July 4th fireworks celebration. $1.8k Home-grown discount cards - 13 local vendors, $10 per card, I did all the work, 1,200 cards for $780 cost. Expect to net $6k SF 49er game - They are selling tickets to a pre-season game at a $20 discount. We/the team gets the word out, people buy seats, 49ers kick back $20 per ticket. This popped up unexpectedly, expect to net $1k on 100 or so tickets. Grape Stomp - Players will work the local festival, filling, then emptying, cleaning, and refilling barrels for the stompers to stomp the grapes. $900
What I find is best is working with local outfits like the parking and Grape Stomp, work with the community on something.
I use the heavy sheet protectors that come in a pack of 10. These are 10 of the sheets sealed together so you get 20 pages (front & back) in 8.5x11 format. Has a reinforced spine that is punched so you can do the lanyard thing. These are about $5 at Staples. This is a compact format that I use during the week, building up as the week goes on. The 20 pages is enough for the (offense) play calls, game plan, depth charts, if-then-else info, pretty much everything. And it rolls up for the back pocket.
I changed the color of our facemasks this year from purple to white. I had talked with Green Gridiron to do the change but ended up doing it as part of the reconditioning. The district here pays up to $5k each year for safety gear (helmet & shoulder pad reconditioning) so if I did the masks separately I would have had to pay for it. But by making it part of the reconditioning the district paid for it. The color of money is very important.
Green Gridiron gave me a quote of something like $17 per facemask with our quantity of 85 or so. I think it was a bit more than that with Schutt but I didn't have to pay for it.
I've got boxes of chin straps from every generation you can think of so I'm going to try and enforce the white chinstrap as well.
Schutt tells us that painting helmets, flat, normal color, is about $15 1st time and then $10 per helmet after that.