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Post by gccwolverine on Aug 10, 2018 12:18:56 GMT -6
I think it's a lot easier to blame concussions and fortnite then it is to take a look in the mirror at what we have done as a profession to high school football. The kids didn't create all-summer 7 on 7 schedules. They didn't create "non-mandatory" weights at 6 a.m. They aren't the ones who started going around calling each other soft because they went on vacation in a week of June instead of the dead-week that we handed out on a calendar in February, because god forbid a 15 year old goes on a family vacation when he could be lifting weights and going to a 7 on 7. They aren't the ones who started running a high school program like a college program. My last season was playing 2004. We lifted 3 days a week out of season starting after Christmas (more or less). Had 7 on 7 one night a week in summer (maybe 4 total times?) and then 1 3-day camp. JV's were encouraged but not really expected to go to anything but camp. We now go essentially 4 days a week the entire summer. There's no comparison in time commitment. And there are programs around us that do more then that. Now we act shocked that as the opportunity cost of playing football has gone up, there are fewer kids interested. Football isn't alone in that, basically all sports are year-round. Baseball is essentially impossible to work around now (showcase ball is all consuming). AAU basketball is it's own monster and the school team will have practice on top of the AAU practice. You might be talking 10 practices a week for a 2-sport athlete in the summer. It's nuts. That's not even counting camps and combines - because a scholarship is now are only measure of validity in an athlete. It's easy to blame the kids or parents, but how many coaches go around bragging about how many guys they put in school? How many coaches used to leverage those kids for college jobs (obviously harder now with the rule change). How many coaches just like being the big shot with all the college coaches in the office to talk about their kids. "We" have effectively turned high school ball (many sports, not just football) into a college feeder system - except the kids aren't getting a college education, room and board for it. About half of them get to stand around in the sun all summer as the scout team OL, getting killed and then the coach yells at him for not being able to read the card. Yea, it sucked when I played too, but atleast it was 12 weeks and not 25. Let's just show up on Friday 10 times a year, roll the balls out and have recess. It'll be easy and everyone will have fun.
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Post by gccwolverine on Aug 10, 2018 12:12:10 GMT -6
Football is dying and it has nothing to do with CTE or video games or even us as coaches. Kids and society are different and I don't know how you can continue to argue kids are the same as they've always been. They're not, and their changes in attitudes, culture, values, mores, etc are being felt in extracurricular sports with football being the most visible because it takes the most people to play it. Jesus Christ football isn't dying. More college programs football existed last year than at any other time in football history. I believe the number will increase this year as well. The sky is not falling just because someone feels a rain drop.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 24, 2018 21:06:19 GMT -6
One thing I notice is that he threatens a lot but never does anything. Well he did kick the Michigan bounce back off.... Kingston the RB... so not entirely true.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 24, 2018 21:01:01 GMT -6
I know a girl who was paid to go on Jerry springer PPV and pretend some dude was her baby daddy, take her clothes off, and yell a bunch. Odds are nearly every moment of these shows are scripted. I have a kid at Indy that played for me and graduated 2 years ago. Not scripted 100% real. "Coach, Coach Brown cusses everyone out his favorite word is MF'er he even cussed his own mom out on the practice field one day."
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 23, 2018 16:31:52 GMT -6
There’s some disturbing aspects of the show. The cussing in general really doesn’t bother me. It’s just a tool in his delivery system. It’s not how I communicate but it does seem genuine. I feel like he would talk the same way to his mother or pastor or anyone. That being said here are some issues I had with the show: First: Yelling about how he’s “not going to suck their d’s.” Any the current climate any communication with sexual link probably isn’t smart. Second: When he talks about choking out the Garden City coach and kind of bragging about it to his team seems inappropriate. And more disturbing with that experience telling a player that he is going to choke him out seems a little dangerous. Third: This is about the show in general. I really didn’t like all of the times they air behind closed door conversation. I am sure the producers have a contract that allows them to play anything but if you are going to have real relationships as a team then then there has to be a boundary somewhere. I think the craziest thing is Brown and some of the players have goals to move onto the next level, but how does someone take a shot on them with this on their resume? The hot tub scenes are hilarious though...maybe the hardest I have laughed watching anything on television literally in years. I have a kid there. I can confirm that he would talk to his mother that way as our kid told our HC, "coach, he cussed his mother up an down on the practice field one day just like he does everyone else he talks too."
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 10, 2018 15:20:41 GMT -6
Study by a professor at Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine shows that per capita Girls' Soccer has more traumatic brain injuries (27%) than any other sport, including Football (24%), and that girls' sports have "significantly higher proportion than boys'."
www.footballscoop.com Coach, keep in mind what those figures mean though. The article stated that Concussions make up 27% of the injuries for girls soccer, while only 24% of all injuries in football are concussions. When you think about the differences in the sports, wouldn't it make sense for girls soccer to have a larger portion of injuries come from concussions. Concussions, ankle injuries, knee injuries...that is about it when it comes to girls soccer right? What else would be prone to injury? I think the scarier thought is that with all of the violent play in football, approximately 1/4 of all the injuries are still brain based. Also, the over 100% increase in diagnosis is shocking. Obviously this is not an increase in incidences, but in awareness. Disclaimer..I only read the article linked, and briefly skimmed the study itself. You seem to understand that the increase is in awareness and diagnosis and not in incidence yet at the same time say its shocking. It's not shocking. When you are looking for something, are educated on what something is, know what it looks like, know how to find it and diagnosis it, you are more apt to find it. That's not shocking.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 7, 2018 13:55:22 GMT -6
"disseminate"? Again - you need to have your school-AD hire someone that is qualified and experienced. Unless you are just going to disagree with whoever the trainer is about extent of injuries and "get back out there"? I'm not the header so It's not my conversation to have with the school or AD. I just know life was better this year without her. Baseball and basketball all say the same thing too.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 7, 2018 13:43:25 GMT -6
every bruise was a sprain, strain, or possible break which resulted in the kid being out, every knick resulted in the kids flocking to her during practice, everyone all of a sudden had to be taped everyday was a nightmare. I would be all for a good ATC but all my experiences outside of my playing experience in college tell me that I haven't found 1 accept for when I was playing in college.
Sorry for you, but that was not my experience.
You would rather have your coaches (including you perhaps) have to tape ankles, diagnose kids with possible concussions-determine who should go through "Protocol" and when they can get back on the field?
No I wouldn't I would prefer a good ATC. Haven't seen 1 yet at the HS level that has the ability to *differentiate* between serious injury and, get back out there. As far as concussions so we don't diagnose anyone. If the kid says my head hurts, or doesn't look right after a big hit he's just out and won't be back until he's symptom free.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 7, 2018 13:29:38 GMT -6
We had 1 2 years ago we didn't this last season. Honestly, life is so much better with out her and its not even close.
Maybe you had a bad one but that's on administration.
I wouldn't want to coach at a school that didn't have a certified ATC.
And the two best I had were both female.
every bruise was a sprain, strain, or possible break which resulted in the kid being out, every knick resulted in the kids flocking to her during practice, everyone all of a sudden had to be taped everyday was a nightmare. I would be all for a good ATC but all my experiences outside of my playing experience in college tell me that I haven't found 1 accept for when I was playing in college. Need an ATC that understands that there is a difference between banged up and injured. Sprains, Strains, Pulls, Breaks, Dislocations, Head injuries = injured. Bruises, knicks, discomfort = play on.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jul 7, 2018 13:18:24 GMT -6
One thing that people haven't mentioned but it happens here in my state. I'm not taking a job that doesn't have/contract a certified medical athletic trainer. If they don't have that the program is not important to the school and the welfare of the kids isn't important enough to the admin. We had 1 2 years ago we didn't this last season. Honestly, life is so much better with out her and its not even close.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jun 27, 2018 23:50:46 GMT -6
I was the HC of our varsity baseball team this year. I had some kids that were decent baseball players that would be very good football players. I tried to hook them into the football program but they all said the same thing - "I don't want to spend every day of my summer vacation working my ass off in the heat while my friends go to the beach and go on vacation just to end up playing 10 or 12 games. I'd rather start practicing baseball in the middle of January and start playing games in February. I only have to prepare for one month before I get to play 30 games." So we should lower the bar? We should encourage less? Let's just make it recess time I guess at least then everyone will have fun.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jun 27, 2018 20:40:03 GMT -6
There's nothing wrong with 12-15 hours a week in the summer. We are 8-11 (generally off the field by 10:45) Monday-Thursday. Kids get Friday, Saturday, Sunday to do whatever they want plus 12-? during the week. If we didn't go at 8am 85% of our kids wouldn't be out of bed prior to 12 anyways. I'm of the opinion people just don't want to work very hard, kids and adults included and that's sad. What about a 24+ hour week in the summer? Because THAT is what grind season is around here for many schools, and I think thats whats getting a lot of folks upset. Additionally, I think the premise many coaches are arguing here is there is a difference between 'working hard' and 'working a lot'. Many coaches confuse activity with action, and as such brag about their 20-25 hour a week summers implying that more time spent equates to hard work, when often times they are working no harder than the 12 hour team, just stretching it out over more time to give an appearance. 24+ is way to much. Like I said we got 12 8-11 M-TH. 45 min lift, 15 min agility / speed work, 45 min of D (indy, group, team some combination there of), 45 min of O (indy, group, team some combination there of). If we have a 7 on 7 it occurs in place of that 1.5 of O/D work, the big guys stay back and do OL/DL skills work while we go to 7on7. But I've found even coaches, I use that term loosely, don't want to work. They either aren't there every day, or if they are there that day they don't know what's going on or don't have a plan, or think football coaching is just done in practice and on Friday nights during games.
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Post by gccwolverine on Jun 27, 2018 20:11:19 GMT -6
There's nothing wrong with 12-15 hours a week in the summer. We are 8-11 (generally off the field by 10:45) Monday-Thursday. Kids get Friday, Saturday, Sunday to do whatever they want plus 12-? during the week. If we didn't go at 8am 85% of our kids wouldn't be out of bed prior to 12 anyways.
I'm of the opinion people just don't want to work very hard, kids and adults included and that's sad.
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Post by gccwolverine on May 7, 2018 7:34:25 GMT -6
What's it like? Pay? Where do u look for a job? Do you have to be a certified teacher or someone off the street? Good ball, bunch of talent, cost of living cheap in the mid to south Georgia area, pay is good, especially with a Master's, and especially especially with a specialists degree. Best to be certified, but as stated can get a provisional cert, or also their a "taps" program where you work towards your certification as you actually teach. Many districts do hire "community coaches" but they are going to be stipend only and usually less than a full time employee stipend. Best move I made was coming to this state 2 years ago.
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Post by gccwolverine on May 2, 2018 8:58:20 GMT -6
I have a high school freshman girl and a 5th grade boy at home. Do I want them to get a free education and then go on to make money playing the sports they love.... ABSOLUTELY!!!! Will they??? probably more than likely not. I guess my rant was at parents more than kids. Its been my experience as a coach, that kids get it way more than parents. Your kid doesnt have to start as a Freshman on the Varsity team. hey dont have to play point gaurd or bat 3rd. Relax enjoy your kids ride and let them enjoy it.. because it will be over quickly. most parent have not done anything close in their parenting that gives their child a real chance to succeed when they enter hs I think most parents actually do a pretty decent job when you take circumstance into account. It's just as always the squeaky wheel gets the grease and we only remember / spend a majority of our time on the or with the {censored} parents.
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Post by gccwolverine on Apr 27, 2018 11:36:20 GMT -6
God no. I had to do it in college and it was miserable. We provide gym shorts and a t-shirt. Even I wear shorts, t-shirt, and flip flops on the bus. I change about 10 minutes before arrival This! Had to do it in college - suit jacket and tie to and away from the game - ever put a suit on after playing 75 snaps of OL play and taking a 5 minute cold shower when you weigh 295? FML The kids should be comfortable on game day.
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Post by gccwolverine on Apr 17, 2018 11:19:58 GMT -6
Most of our team uses it i use it it is all fine... i have just always been told that the school can not provide a supplement to a kid... even with parental approval we are actual required to tell a kid, when/if they ask us about supplement advice to "talk to their parents and their doctor about it" (i think that is too far and i give them real advice) but that is what we are supposed to do i 100% understand where you are coming from and i agree it is stupid, but it is the only thing i have ever heard any AD or administrator say regarding protein/supplements It’s to get point now where we can’t even give them food. Smh A large portion of our kids parents don't even give them food.
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Post by gccwolverine on Apr 17, 2018 11:06:32 GMT -6
my mind is blown by how many of you give actual protein powder to kids does your school district actually say this is fine? or is it a dont ask dont tell situation? Since our super personally writes the check every month for powder....... I'd say we're ok.
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Post by gccwolverine on Nov 7, 2017 14:07:26 GMT -6
Do we need an update? We all know... This won't end well.
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Post by gccwolverine on Nov 7, 2017 13:35:40 GMT -6
When I 1st read this I thought, "oh crap I chest bumped and knocked a player down last Friday in our game as he came off the field after a big takeaway and then when he got up I smacked him in a doggy paddle type of motion on the top of the helmet a few times in excitement and celebration" I'm going to be fired..... Then I watched the video and thought...... "Well nevermind, I'm not that stupid"..... heyzues christos who the heck does that man? that's a full damn wind up to the back of a players dome.
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Post by gccwolverine on Nov 3, 2017 8:32:12 GMT -6
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Post by gccwolverine on Nov 3, 2017 5:42:58 GMT -6
I for sure thought this was a spam thread or fake news, but clearly this is neither. Haven't you heard? It's 2017 and everything is fake news. I just assumed it was the DNC working through Russia spamming us to hack our credit card data and control the minds of the sheeple, and then set up some sort of violent robot attack using karate. Relieved it isn't!!! Pheeeeew that was close. Stay woke people and Carry on!
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Post by gccwolverine on Nov 2, 2017 9:39:25 GMT -6
Coach, Do you minds sharing the curriculum of the resources you currently have? I am about to buy "You Can Build Championship Culture: Coaches Complete Guide to Everything Off the Field," and would love to have someone to bounce ideas off of and share resources with. During the off-season, we do a one hour block every Tuesday where we have a life skills training session. Kids will learn to tie a tie, change a tire (you would be surprised how many do not know this), sew a button on their shirt, etc... We also have an hour devoted every Thursday to character development. Now these things we only do with the Varsity group (we only have the JV for an hour each day), but I would love to see us expand that in the future. Check out "A football Journey"
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 26, 2017 10:30:54 GMT -6
I would have gotten the kids off of the field ASAP and then fired off an email to the opposing school's AD and my AD, detailing the poor sportsmanship. The white-flag and the little display at midfield isn't kosher, in my book. It may be viewed as whining after losing a game but so be it. Ehhhhh..... Take your loss shake their hands endeavor to be better and act better than the fools they are after a win. Use it as a teaching moment for your kids. "Sometimes life bites, and its not fair or just, but we can control our emotions and actions, and we won't and don't act like that after a win or loss."
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 24, 2017 12:51:54 GMT -6
What kills the idea that players can miss a practice or weights is competition at their spot, plane and simple. If you have numbers, problem solved, if you don't have numbers that is were you earn your pay check. You have two choices: 1. Put a policy in place that is unilateral and all inclusive for every single player, lose your 3 or 4 best Seniors who don't want to change and you have to stand on principle and only play football with a bunch of Freshman and Sophomores. Plus you get to go 0-10 for the year, YEAH!!! 2. Have a general policy, were you can determine playing time on an individual bases and determine penalties based upon the individual. For example, "BEST PLAYER - PLAYS, PERIOD." So if a kid misses a practice and during that practice his replacement shows you he is better then that kid plays. Now the second option is unfair and not all inclusive and favors slack-ass Seniors who don't show up for everything, but you can slowly ratchet up your policy as you build numbers for the future. And again I recognize that this policy is unfair to the ass-kissing Freshman and Sophomore who is at every practice, doing everything right, but it also protects that kid from playing Varsity too soon and getting his Butt handed to him on every play. Plus you get to win a few games and develop your young kids while letting the Seniors and Juniors finish out their high school careers. Me I don't like losing, but we are at a smaller school where we don't have massive amounts of kids to choose from. So when I took over a struggling small school program and this is what we did and it has worked out pretty well for us. If we had a kid that missed practice and we had a replacement for him then we wouldn't start the kid that missed practice, but if we didn't well that kid got away with something and we just had to live with it until we built up numbers over time. The longer I've been at this, as a fairly young assistant coach and coordinator, I firmly believe that the best approach is "no half measures." Crack down and if you lose some you lose some but half measures only result in headaches and not really allowing you to build the culture the way you want it. For me when it's my program and my policy there will be 1 standard and it will be met or there will be consequences and if those consequences aren't enough and the standards are continually being broken then you'll turn your {censored} in. For instance in my current stop, we've had a kid miss 23 days from the beginning of summer till now. HC still lets him be apart because "we'll he needs us more than we need him, and he is a junior that has talent if he gets it together he could play as a senior" He gets to play JV and he is the best player on the field every week as he should be. Would have been a varsity starter for us if he would simply show up and do whats asked. I'm of the belief that keeping him around actually does more program harm than good for him or us. It allows mediocrity and noncomittedness to fest and brew + he takes reps from others who are younger but not as good yet.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 24, 2017 8:27:02 GMT -6
A few years ago, a team tried an onside kick. It went about 5 yards, and as it was dying, one of our recently fast kids swooped it, scooped it up, and went untouched into the end zone. Their coach was yelling that we couldn't do that, because it didn't go 10 yards. It was right before half, and their coach just kept losing his damn mind over it. On his way in at half, he starts screaming at our staff. About how we teach our kids to cheat and crap like that. It was hilarious. I still don't really know what he thought the rule was. I'm thinking he thought the 10 yard rule was for both teams, but, no one can be that stupid. Right? I operate under the assumption that 90% of the human populace is at least this stupid if not more. But I'm kind of a doom and gloom pessimist.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 19, 2017 6:51:39 GMT -6
There is no excuse in the world NOT to have an out-of-season program IF YOU STAY THERE!
You can have an "out-of-season program" but if you're at a small school - unlike you - kids may be be playing other sports and not available.
And again - unfortunately in some situations kids will not participate fully in an "out-of-season program" because they know they'll play anyway because there is nobody else (numbers).
What would YOU do then?
FIND A NEW JOB..... Life's to short to be miserable. I know how to win, I'm going to show you how to win, we are going to implement the things necessary to win. If that results in constant push back then it's time for me to go somewhere they want to win.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 18, 2017 9:31:27 GMT -6
This has been a really tough season. We are 0-fer and have a senior class that is full of cancers. Now some of the seniors have started screwing around all practice and causing drama off the field as well. My normal response would be that we need to get rid of the ones that have stopped caring (I am not the HC), but we have absolutely nothing behind them. We have gotten to the point where everything we try to do is met with negative attitudes and backlash from parents. We are doing our best to stay positive and let them know that we still believe they have a chance to make playoffs (somehow we do since our district is so bad), but now it seems like they are determined to burn the ship down. I don't think I have ever felt like this in almost 10 years of coaching, but I feel like I am just ready to get the season over with and move on from this senior class. PLAYOFFS... PLAYOFFS??? PLAYOFFS?
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 4, 2017 18:39:27 GMT -6
I did up until this year. And when I did I did it well and was invested in it just like I'm invested in football, you get hired to do a job you do the job to the best of your ability regardless of the demands of the time. I'm not the HC but This year I don't which admittedly makes my life easier. Fact remains that if we stunk it up on the field they'd have lets us all go and found a new government teacher last year, and they'll certainly find a new ISS person if we stink it up on the field this year. It's not like that everywhere, I get it. But I know what I signed up for. I am calling BS on part of this. At least to the extent that you would say that a man who re prioritized his time to account for family is cheating his players. I maintain that you absolutely "cheated" your students (based on your definition) because you were not spending all of the time on them that you could have if you were not coaching HS football. Notice, I am using YOUR definition and term that you attributed to another. I am betting most would have said you were a solid teacher and coach, but regardless of what you did in the classroom, you obviously could have done MORE had you not coached. No.... I never said I was putting less in than I once was before. There is a clear distinction there.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 4, 2017 12:31:44 GMT -6
"you are cheating whatever your mortgage/rent paying job is by coaching football" - they are the same...... if we go 1-9 or 2-8 I'm looking for a new gig quick fast and in a hurry to put food on my table / keep the roof over my head. Do you teach classes? If so, then you are cheating your students. I did up until this year. And when I did I did it well and was invested in it just like I'm invested in football, you get hired to do a job you do the job to the best of your ability regardless of the demands of the time. I'm not the HC but This year I don't which admittedly makes my life easier. Fact remains that if we stunk it up on the field they'd have lets us all go and found a new government teacher last year, and they'll certainly find a new ISS person if we stink it up on the field this year. It's not like that everywhere, I get it. But I know what I signed up for.
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