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Post by klaby on Jul 31, 2018 7:34:06 GMT -6
Aug 1....play 3 games before school even starts....all because of $$$$$$
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Post by klaby on Jul 30, 2018 11:08:53 GMT -6
You cant fix poor leadership.... you can but that requires understanding that something either is fundamentally flawed or just admit something is wrong. No you really cant coach. In this case you need to vote for leaders to fill the school board. That's not what we do, we vote for people we "like". Not people who have the stones to say no, or to call out bad performance. Its easy to just make a blanket rule. We don't like truth tellers, we want feel good people....
Leadership can be taught, but that doesn't mean it can be learned. I taught it to young Marines, some learned some did not.
Instead of dealing with the actual problem, they take the easy road and make a blanket rule. Happens all the time in schools. I spent 8 years as a Public Safety director of a D3 school, I could tell you stories about just how you cant fix stupid.....not if you want to keep your sanity and liver in tact, cause this stupid will drive a man to drink....
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Post by klaby on Jul 30, 2018 10:50:00 GMT -6
You cant fix poor leadership....
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Post by klaby on Jul 27, 2018 9:41:52 GMT -6
I really can't believe that anybody has a positive thing to say about Brown. I don't care about the language. I don't care that he delivers ass chewing to assistants. That happens in every profession and every level of football. What bothers me about how he does it is that the majority of the ass-chewings are a result of HIM being unorganized.You want to hold people to a standard and be a yeller / cusser / ass hat....you damn well better have your ducks in row. Thats the difference between a Saban or Meyer doing it and this yahoo. You think Saban is going over how he is going to signal plays to the WR during pregame (for the first time)? Do you think he is trying to call plays not on the wrist-band? Even beyond that, his goal is to get those guys scholarships - and then brag about how he never learned a single thing in college. Then why get a scholarship? He talks about, literally acknowledges, most NFL dudes go broke in 3 years - but then talks about how college is just a game and you have to learn to work the system. For what purpose? Is going to college for 4 years going to "get them out of the hood" if they don't actually learn anything. Like a college degree is some magic "get a job" piece of paper that you just get because you learn to "play school." Teaching a kid to scam a "C" at a community college is not helping him. Getting a kid a scholarship is not helping him. That's just putting a year or two delay until they fail so you can feel good about yourself for helping the kids. Well said coach!
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Post by klaby on Jul 27, 2018 6:25:14 GMT -6
I used to think Jim Harbaugh was an a$%hole. Just the way he looked on the sideline and stuff. Never met him but just had that jerky look. The Amazon Series has totally changed my mind. He is 180 from what I thought, I still don't like Mich, but Jimbo is stand up...
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Post by klaby on Jul 27, 2018 6:23:06 GMT -6
if you ever read Urban Meyer's book the stuff written here makes sense. Football is my passion so I read a lot of books. I have read 2 saban books, 1 Bobby Bowden, Lombardi, ect. But Urban's book is all Me, Me, ME, Me....I read it after a book on Bear Bryant, and I was like "wow what a ego maniac".....
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Post by klaby on Jul 27, 2018 6:14:41 GMT -6
Its on direct tv. Go to the 700s I believe and scroll through.
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 13:13:46 GMT -6
KT is great! Great guys great to work with.
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 13:08:25 GMT -6
While I disagree with 5058 regarding the head injury thing (like I said less than 1% statistically doesn't make it a serious problem). I will agree that coach's organizations need to speak out when the actions of a select few are harmful to the whole. But I don't see them doing that. Fact is we as a group condone bad behavior if a guy is successful. And while we as a group preach about "Its about the kids", its clearly not its about us. The rules show that, our conduct shows that and the money some of us make shows that. That is why coaches cheat, recruit when they aren't supposed to. look the other way when a kid who couldnt buy a big mac one day is driving a 50K car the next... ect. Win, keep your job, make your house payments, feed your family. Lose, get fired. Football doesn't pay my bills. So I have a luxury most don't, I can walk away anytime and still feed my family. So shows and coaches like these will continue, and the low information mom/dad will think we are all like this and good athletes will play soccer instead....and we will all sit around and wonder why our numbers are down. We will have panels on it, discussions, seminars ect. But we wont talk about condemning bad behavior for fear that the offender will get all butt hurt and we will look bad. I will bet most coaches on this site think Pete Carroll is a great coach, great man, motivator blah, blah blah....look what he did to USC....so here we are, a total nut job on tv looking like the idiot he is and he represents us, but hey its about the kids....even when he talks about grades he doesn't talk about studying or putting in the work. No he tells his guys to "play the game"....sit in front, stay awake, be on time, and you will get a C....as for Friday night tykes, I got nothing for ya there...I mean the parents are just as nutty as the coaches so.....
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 9:06:53 GMT -6
Yea I guess working at a college and having half my department funded by grant money could confuse me....
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 9:04:48 GMT -6
2 episodes into All or Nothing Michigan football and haven't seen anything like this crap. Watched all of the Florida State and Navy shows on showtime and saw none of this crap. Do you hear the f word, yes, but you don't see anything like this. So the "how much film is on the floor" that dog just wont hunt....this isn't editing, this I how the guy is.
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 8:55:12 GMT -6
watch the documentary and draw your own conclusion coach.....and yes I am saying they are manipulating data for profit, cant prove it , just my conclusion. Cause private jets and Armani suits are not needed to draw attention to anything....
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 7:39:52 GMT -6
The group that is studying this got a huge pot of money from the NFL and the NCAA. watch the doc. At one point this ex-player who runs this thing gets challenged by a Doctor at a presentation and he losses his stuff. The doctor counter's his stats and he doesn't like it. The doctor calls him a fear peddler and he doesn't know how to react. This same group is now going after soccer, and just got money from them. This former I think Yale or Harvard player with nothing to his name and a Bachelor's degree now flys around in a private jet giving talks all over the country about the evils of football.....follow the money. An avg player without a DR. is now an expert on CTE and the evils of the sport that paid for his degree.....
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 7:30:54 GMT -6
Something you need to know when it comes to Nike, UA and Adidas. They rotate designs every 3-4 years. So as we all know, what happens is a kid loses a jersey, one gets ripped, mom bleaches one ect... So now its 3 years after the 1st purchase and now you cant replace 4-5 jerseys because they have removed that style. Little known fact, Rippon uniforms makes most of the NFL jersey's, they just saw on the swosh or what have you. If you want a jersey that you can replace no matter what no matter when, Rippon is your vendor. They keep your design on file FOREVER. Now it doesn't have the cool swosh on it, but its high quality and if you need to replace a jersey you can. The cost is the same as Nike, Adidas and UA. They are great people, supper easy to work with and the stuff is delivered when they say they will. If your going to spend 20-30K you want it to last more than 3 years....unless you have money to burn. You can design your own jersey, add your mascot, whatever you want. Rippon is the best around I am telling you they will make you happy.
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Post by klaby on Jul 26, 2018 7:23:15 GMT -6
I watched the documentary "head games", I will again say, follow the money..... every sport has risk, its the parents that need to weigh that risk. Coaches need to account for that risk and minimize it. But follow the money....
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 11:01:33 GMT -6
Coach,
The bottom line and this isn't rocket science, FUN. Kids need to have FUN. Its not FUN to get the crap kicked out of you 4 days a week and then on Saturday morning play 3 plays on the kick off team. Or to get screamed at by coach Sabanlombardi. FUN. A few years back I ran a youth club. we had 2 5th grade teams. 1 team lost every game, sometimes big. The other one was 5-3. Each had about 25 kids. the next year 23 kids came back on the 0-8 team and 8 for the 5-3 team. True story real numbers. So I called every kid's parents, some gave me the blow off. But 80% told me that their kid didn't have fun, their kid hated practice and the coach. The 8 that came back, 3 were coach's kids, the other 5 played every down both Off. and Def. The team that was 0-8, every kid played every game, not just the kick off team, every kid started at least 1 game on O or D. They had FUN!
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 10:53:44 GMT -6
Hey I am little bored during lunch and fell across this.....if the kid owns the jersey and the parent paid for the jersey, then pick your battles. if the program owns the jersey then no, no name. Kids love this crap, why not let them love it. That kid on your team that will play like 3 snaps will get more out of his name on his jersey, and may even come back and may even grow and become a better player. He will wear that with pride at school and all year, it will mean more to him than the 4 plays he will get. My kid plays hockey and football. His football jersey no name, the program owns the jersey so no name. I own his hockey jersey and every kid has his/her name on the back. My kid loved it when he was in youth hockey. Now HS hockey he doesn't care either way. Cost I hear all the time. Find a local dude to heat transfer, its like $12 a jersey if that. if they want more find another guy trust me it doesn't cost that much to cut vinyl and heat transfer it. now tackle twill, hell yea big money...I get the we are all one, and all that. but the kids really love this stuff, and if it keeps them coming back and playing, then I say do it. Trust me there are way worse crap coming your way than some letters on a jersey....
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 9:49:30 GMT -6
Didn't read, but I call major BS. 24% of all injuries in football are concussions??? That can't be even remotely correct. Or is that 24% of injuries that cause someone to miss a game? I might could believe that. That was from the article. The study itself is probably a bit weak. Two of the authors have only obtained Bachelor's degrees and the third was just an MD. Not really well trained researchers. 24% are brain injuries??? I use our own team, we haven't had a concussion in 2 years, 1 3 years ago. But we have lost 4-5 kids to ankle and knees. 1 to arm....I question 24% that seems very high!
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 7:35:28 GMT -6
we do, we don't do a PP. We hit on team rules, schedules, athletic code. But we really stress, the player coach parent relationship. And we also make it clear that we don't discuss playing time with parents.
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 6:18:08 GMT -6
Look I am a data driven guy, that's how I determine my manpower needs. How many officers I need on duty and where. But I also know data can be manipulated. And by nature I am just cynical. So I look at the data with a different view. Now I don't know the exact numbers, am sure they are out there. But I am guessing like 1-2 million kids play football in the USA at some level. How many cases of CTE have been linked to football, 50-100? even if it is say 1000, what is that like 1%. So 1% means we have as serious problem? How do we know that the player never fell of his bike and bruised his squash? we don't, or if he got hit in the head with bat during pick up game of baseball? What I am saying is nobody and I mean nobody in the real world freaks about 1-2%. I am not saying its not a concern and its not something we shouldn't focus on, what I am saying is follow the money.
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 6:08:48 GMT -6
Remember the pecking order is NFL, D1 College, D2, D3, HS, and youth. And then in that mix comes do you have an MSA (master service agreement, contract) or are you just a buy here and there guy. If you have an MSA you move to the front, if not you get bounced back. Are you using Riddell to do Schutt helmets and vice versa. Try a local guy. Or bite the bullet and sign an MSA with penalties if they miss a deadline. An MSA can also have issues if you don't put in penalties. We had one for polos, got them 4 games in last year. So don't just sign, get a business guy to look it over make sure you can get compensation for bad service.
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 6:01:27 GMT -6
We are in shells. Fast paced, get our walk through done and get out. hour, hour and 1/2 tops.
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Post by klaby on Jul 25, 2018 5:59:44 GMT -6
I with CoachFetty....just tape them
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Post by klaby on Jul 24, 2018 10:58:26 GMT -6
I helped out a women's team one off season. 1st they listen. 2nd is they don't know anything, or very little! Even the "Veteran" players. Most of these teams cant pay the coach or pay very little so the coaching is hit or miss. Some get very good coaching, others very bad.
So teach them as if they are fresh 5th graders. Keep it basic, and build slowly. Don't say you gotta get the 5 tech and pin him in. Most of them will have no clue what a 5 tech is. So avoid "slang" explain in plain English.
I coached QB, and I learned very quickly to slow down and explain. I also learned to shorten the routes and the throws to 5th/6th grade length to start. I explained every play and drill, it really helped that they listened and focused and asked questions.
Be patient. They want your knowledge and help, they are not like kids who think they know more than you. They are very eager and if delivered right, accept correction.
Have fun....but NO Fanny Slaps....dude that will get you in big trouble!
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Post by klaby on Jul 24, 2018 10:47:46 GMT -6
We expect our kids to attend our summer camp, we don't hold against them if they cant, yes amongst ourselves we are frustrated. We have 3 different times for lifting, and the HC will adjust if kids need it. My son plays at another school. Same thing they have 4 times to lift during the summer, difference is its open to every kid not just FB. The coach expects attendance at the team camp.
This year we held our camp at night, we emailed every other sport coach and asked if there were conflicts, AAU, Legion Ball. They had none, then camp comes and the Legion Guy schedules a game, freaking pole vault coach holds a camp at the same time, AAU guy schedules practice and a game.
We try and work around the kids schedules as best we can. And we tell kids, come when you can do what you can. No 7 on 7 this year, we just couldn't schedule around the kids time.
But the bottom line is we know if a kid doesn't lift then that hurts the kid and us. So you gotta do more than just lift and run them. You gotta add some fun to the mix, reward, some thing that doesn't make it a job. And you cant go all drill instructor on a kid who is late or misses now and then. If he is late, hell at least he is there.
But then again our HC isn't making 100K or playing on ESPN....so....
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Post by klaby on Jul 24, 2018 10:08:23 GMT -6
Yelling yes, getting in a fist fight on the sideline during a game....hmmmm....
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Post by klaby on Jul 23, 2018 12:19:22 GMT -6
Cant fix stupid coach....Use it as a teaching tool for your kids and handle it like Jackie Robinson.
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Post by klaby on Jul 23, 2018 12:16:35 GMT -6
I don't mind 7 on 7 if you bill it with your kids that they are there to have some fun and compete. They get to spend some time together and have some fun. We invite our OL guys to, let them run some TE or what have you. But then you get the "win the superbowl of 7 on" guys. That you know come season or a single wing dudes who never throw.... but hey if you set the tone with your kids that this is to have some fun, play some football and compete, then there is value.
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Post by klaby on Jul 23, 2018 12:03:45 GMT -6
do it on # of plays not time. Also break it down to say 15 from the 40 and then 5 from inside the 10. Stick to the number, no matter how much the other coach bitches or says "couple more coach" stick to the number. Have refs, tell them to stick to the number, they can be the bad guy. We do this and we are on and off in an hour tops. You can do 25 plays, 15 with #1s and 10 with #2s. Also don't invite teams who want to win the JV state title, you know the VinceNickLombardiSaban coaches. schedule coaches you can trust to stick to the rules and play safe.
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Post by klaby on Jul 23, 2018 11:55:21 GMT -6
Here is some food for thought. A lot of these ex players that have had their brains looked at played during a time when drug usage was rampant. How come none of the CTE studies include that data? Is cocaine not harmful to your brain? Second and this isnt rocket science, when I played if you hit a guy with your helmet you got a flag. We were not taught to lead with the helmet and if we did we got called. Then guys like Chuck Cecil did it on sundays and we thought it was great! Hell he even had a 2nd layer added to his helmet so he could do it without injuring himself. Science can be debated, global warming is a prime example of that. Data can say what you want it to say, ask any CEO or Police Chief in the country. So are these new rules safer, maybe yet to be seen. But as coaches we should care more about the safety of our players than the game. But lets face it we don't. Why, lose and get fired. So are you willing to lose and get fired to protect your players? Me yes cause football doesn't pay my mortgage. If I get fired just means my wife wont be pissed 7 months of the year...
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