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Post by coachks on Feb 1, 2024 13:38:07 GMT -6
Couple of quick tells: Defensively:
1) How many kids get to the ball on defense. If you are seeing a bunch of solo tackle, it's probably good athletes. If every tackle has 3+ hats around, that means they are reading keys, beating blocks and pursuing.
2) Do the DB's fit the edge right. IE, do their corners and safeties dive inside on perimeter plays, or do they understand winning outside their blocker to make a wall.
3) Stances and precision in alignment. Is a 3-tech always a 3 tech, or is he sometimes a 2, sometimes a 4i. Sometimes he is on the ball, others he is flexed. If they sub in a different kid, does he align in the same way... or does his alignment different. Are some corners playing man alignment, while the other kid is half-turned playing zone. (And you know when it's because they are literally playing different techniques vs just being different).
Offensively: 1) OL Timing - Do all of the lineman move at the same time, or do they have a stagger.
2) RB's path on run plays.Does he have good, precise footwork to attack the play, or is he just moving in a general direction.
3) QB's footwork compared with the pass concept. Is he shuffling his feet all around to throw a screen (not popping and throwing). Is he taking a drop that times up with the routes, or is it too deep or not deep enough. Big one is dropping way to deep too fast (impossible to pass pro or throw on rhythm) and not being able to get a screen or three step throw off without doing a 4 step tap dance.
4) Receiver splits matching the route and the route depth matching the route. IE, are they running a "1 step hitch" on smash and just standing around. Or a 9 yard "slant" on a slant arrow that is closer to a post then a slant.
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Post by coachks on Dec 14, 2023 8:28:21 GMT -6
Additional .02,
Most kids don't play the same position for his 4 years of HS. Some do, but I would say most don't. There are always a ton of kids who come up as skill players, who are really lineman by the time they finish puberty. Just as many guys who played offense who get moved to defense. Guys bounce between RB, WR, DB - move from DL to LB, Safety and LB ect.
Let alone from middle school. I've had a lot of middle school centers become skill position players because they thinned out going into high school.
I think being too rigid with the younger groups is a mistake. Ideally you want some consistency, but being successful and having fun is probably more important.
I've seen many a middle school team in gun, 4 wide because that is what the high school does - but they can't snap or throw a screen pass.... so when they run into a 6-2 front they can't even throw and catch the uncovered stuff, and it's just miserable.
JV wise, well, those kids could become varsity players at any moment so you need something closer to what the varsity runs because they are depth for the program. Below that? Try and use the same terminology (Power is called Power, Counter is called Counter ect...)
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Post by coachks on Dec 13, 2023 11:48:53 GMT -6
I think you want 80/20. 80% of what they do should be based on the varsity. 20% can be “JV Ball” stuff so that they can play competitive football.
By JV ball I mean that sometimes those kids don’t have the skills to play some situations. They might need to add in a wildcat package to use in short yardage or goalline, or add a screen pass because they can’t convert a 4th and 10 passing the ball downfield, or add a Jet sweep / Reverse / End Around because they can’t throw the ball to their best WR enough. Or add a speed option because the OL isn’t skilled enough to block pin and pull or stretch or whatever. Or they might need a 6 OL look because receiver 2 is terrible, but OL 6 is better.
Basically, ways to overcome talent shortcomings because the best players are on varsity…. So you might be missing an piece.
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Post by coachks on Nov 27, 2023 13:14:31 GMT -6
Downside of FTC --
We are using an FTC approach. Minimal conditioning (first few weeks of the season we did some prowler pushes on the days before we had pads). Full speed sprint work in-season (during S&C Class).
I've been getting absolutely hammered by the AD and other school members that football practice is too easy, specifically because we do not condition enough. That "baseball practice should not be harder than football practice"
14-9 in 2 seasons (best 2 year stretch in about 15 years). First playoff win in 15 years last year. First home playoff game in 15 years this year. Virtually no soft-tissue injuries (or really any injuries. One separated shoulder, one bruised knee, one AC Sprain).
But the perception that it is "soft" is tough for certain types to overcome.
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Post by coachks on Nov 23, 2023 19:12:59 GMT -6
I can't break it down in Hudl. I don't have that much access. But the question remains if I was watching games on NFHS or another platform what has worked for coaches to learn from film when you can't talk to the coach? That is the answer I am looking for in this question. Back before they invented color, there were these things called tablets/note pads. And with a ruler and a pencil you could draw on them and make columns and rows, and even include headings. You also could use them to draw little X's and little O's. And once you made a butt ton of sheets of paper, you could spread them out on the floor and then sort them by like numbers/X's&O's/ etc..... Then you stacked the like sheets and then started drawing/sorting again with like categories. After that you tallied the numbers on a chalk board and then contemplated the numbers. Yeah, just being an arse, but..... the working of the sorting and then the working of the numbers made me the coach I am. Hudl is convenient but the analysis/knowledge component can't be exchanged. Do some drawing and sorting and you'll figure it out. Even better, I can tally mark 5times faster than I can input into HUDL. I can tally mark an entire game on a notepad in the same time I get through 15 clips on HUDL waiting for it load, fixing the autocomplete stuff, tabbing through different categories ect.
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Post by coachks on Aug 15, 2023 4:59:42 GMT -6
To echo others:
Make sure you are asking them to do a technique they can do. This is a mistake I have made a lot. Still make it. This is where a lot of the “college” scheme breaks down - especially as you get to smaller and smaller high schools.
To give you an example: I will not coach a 3-technique. I think teaching a kid to throw hands at the guard, and squeeze a trap….. but you can’t get washed by a downblock…. Is very tough. Your asking a kid to see the movement of the guard, place his hands, and “feel” pressure from a player with better mechanical leverage than he has. I’d rather play him as a 2T and just teach him to play off the guard, or teach him to slant.
Does that mean a 3-tech is impossible to play: obviously not. It requires a really strong kid with great feet. I even have one now - he just plays RT for us and I try and sub him on defense at times. Nobody else could play it as his backup, so we don’t run it.
I’ve seen similar issues with LB keys. I can teach a kid to read a guard. Respond to 5 possible stimuli (Base, Pull, Pass, Out, Down). Can work that everyday May through November. Then it’s just tweaking footwork to find windows and anticipate blocks.
You know what I can’t teach? That same ILB to key RB and “low beam” a guard. Or to transition from Guard —> RB, make a push call and pickup the slot WR. Somehow, when I started talking about push alerts once they see pass, they forgot to even watch the guard and broke that skill they already had. And, more amazingly, when I don’t bother to teach the push alert they will actually play it out right without me saying anything (eventually) because they get so used to their regular pass drops they develop feel for the play.
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Post by coachks on May 11, 2023 6:40:42 GMT -6
I used to watch more college than NFL, but in the last few years that has flipped. College games drag too long with the constant reviews. Watching spread football with bad QBs is also bleak. I enjoy the pacing of NFL games a lot more. It's going to be 3 hours and when you have good QBs (top 25 in the league) playing it will have great tempo.
Otherwise, very little beats having a baseball game on in the background.
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Post by coachks on Apr 21, 2023 10:36:16 GMT -6
Using the assumption of "little if any carryover" means something to the effect of, we are a Wing-T, gap blocking offense and you are looking at install outside zone as the only "non-gap" play
And we have to define a rep. Are we counting indy reps? Reps on bags? Bird-Dogs? Inside run drill? Vs Scout team? Only good on good?
I'm assuming we are looking at something to the effect of 3 weeks of practice before I'd run it in a game assuming: Indy drill 1-2x per week (5 minutes each) Run it against bags 4+ times 1-2x per week Run it in inside 4+ times 1-2x per week Run it against bags / air 4+ times 1-2x per week Run it against scout 2-3 times 1-2x per week Run it "good on good" 2+ times 1-2x per week.
So on the low end, 20 times per week for 3 weeks = 60 reps. On the high end, 40ish reps per week for 3 weeks = 120 reps.
With all that typed out, we are looking at 75 as a base.
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Post by coachks on Apr 5, 2023 10:18:43 GMT -6
You and your staff may understand Sabanese...but a 16 yo doesn't. Much like I've said in a discussion on this here before, if a 16 year old can't, how can 1 or 2 years later, a 17 or 18 year old college freshman miracously become able to absorb it all? Adderall maybe? Lol Several problems with your point: 1) Football is a weak link game. I can have 4 understand it perfectly, but if #5 can't get it straight that is what is going to cost me. #5 may well be the worst player on the field and never have a chance to go play college in a year. It might be his first season ever playing. He might be a 15 year old sophomore. But if he has to be on the field, it has to be simple enough for the weakest link. 2) College kids are full time football players. It's 40 hours a week. They don't start at point guard, and then play shortstop. They aren't working (at Bama atleast). 3) Bama gets to pick their kids. They aren't taking the kid who can't understand football. You don't think they know how to screen for football IQ? If they can't keep pace mentally, they can hit the portal. 4) Freshman don't always play. Some redshirt. Some can't get on the field until year 3 or later. Comparing what a sophomore can do in his first varsity season, to what a 21 year old in his 3rd year of college can do can be night and day. That is potentially 6 seasons of football. I have kids who I can teach every bit of football I know. I have other kids who I need to remind what left and right mean. What you teach has to be easy enough for kid 2, if he has to be on the field. In college, kid 2 won't be on the team if he can't keep up.
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Post by coachks on Apr 5, 2023 9:08:41 GMT -6
Has anyone used these? We had an issue with our jersey color coming in and not matching our helmet color. One of our proposed solutions was to use Gameday Skinz and change the helmet cover for the year (a quarter of the cost of getting them repainted). I worry about the durability of them over 10+ games. I also worry about them holding up over practices (otherwise we have to take them on and off for every game, which is time consuming). I know the company swears they hold up, but my big concern is getting 3 weeks into the season and these things are tattered to pieces.
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Post by coachks on Mar 26, 2023 7:15:58 GMT -6
19deltaWell said. I think a lot can be traced back to when we became concerned about graduation rates. Give the kids whatever they need to pass over a low bar, so that 10-15% who would be dropouts can now graduate. It detracts from the rest of the schools culture and hurts the experience of the rest of the students - but when funding and your evaluation is tied to this metric, it’s the only logical thing to focus on. The secondary focus being on ACT scores, which is largely tied to getting kids into 11th grade , it amplifies the problem. The easy way to look at it for us is if they evaluated us as coaches solely on the size of our roster. We could remove all barriers to kids - reduce physicality, never condition, don’t force lifting, never practice in the summer, let kids miss practice, play everybody- and try and get as many kids to dress on a Friday as possible. We would be a terrible football team, and eventually it would backfire (as you lose, kids will lose interest no matter how little the expectation). But if you only plan to do it for 1-2 seasons and parlay that success to a new job - you can game that metric and never deal with the real consequences. As to the push for IEPs/504. Some of this is a reflection of the above - some of these kids would not normally be in school. But more importantly, it’s a lot easier to have a kid in the 30th-80th percentile and rock a 2.7 GPA, but make a long winded post about how much he (and by extension the parent) had to overcome to achieve such levels of mediocracy.
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Post by coachks on Mar 25, 2023 10:09:00 GMT -6
As a football coach, I think it’s an interesting concept to potentially benefit us (In NC that is). If it is truly based on principals discretion, then they would be able to offer high pay levels (added title in the school house to get to the higher pay level).This would allow admins who are more concerned with sports a way to compensate beyond their peers who do not care about sports. In bigger districts where things are rigid pay wise, this could offer a new avenue (or a way for one school to entice a seemingly lateral move).
Would this play out like that? Who knows.
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Post by coachks on Mar 15, 2023 6:13:23 GMT -6
Does anybody have one of those inflatable entrance tunnels, and if so, what size? We are going to order one for this season, and I'm not sure if we need a 15' or 20' tunnel. We will dress between 35-40 kids.
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Post by coachks on Jan 2, 2023 15:04:03 GMT -6
My .02
The pay is not as bad as people like to claim. Most of the horror stories leave out some key piece of information about the story teller being an idiot. Most of the workload complaints are nonsense.
Here is reality as I have seen:
1) You first 2-3 years are going to be a lot of work while you learn how to teach. This is true for every career. Once you understand your style and get comfortable with the material for a class - you're "prep" time is minimal for each day. Once you have your material, you will update and recycle it, add this or that every year, but largely it is done before the year starts.
2) Most teachers are not bright. Most of the nonsense directives are aimed at the idiots. APs are dumber.
3) Have data. Having data is the lowest hanging fruit possible to get admin and the rest of your department to leave you alone as a teacher. Remember point #2. Do you know how easy it is to "have data?" Buy zipgrade (8 whole dollars) Give a quiz (err, sorry, formative assessment), it will tell you the top 2-3 missed questions were (I did 15 question vocab quizzes for world history). Figure out what standard it is. Take 15 minutes when the rest of the class is working on some other assignment, take the group who missed it and re-explain the words and context and have the kids practice with those words (quizlet is the best, but vocab boxes work as well). You have now remediated a standard and used data to drive learning. Have them take the quiz again. They will get those questions right, you have no remediated, used data and shown growth. The kids are now proficient in the standard (80%.. that's 4 out of 5 words fyi for whatever standard you pick). First observation, have this data (On Standard 3 jimmy, tommy, susie and meghan only scored .... on standard 2.5, but after we remeidated it on day x, they scored y and were now proficient). At some future PLT, PLC or staff meeting explain this process. You are now a superstar, very serious educator because you can use data to remediate. This takes, and I'm not joking, 10 ?? total minutes to find out and organize. However, remember point #2.
4) There will be members of the faculty that do not like coaches. Ignore them. There will be members of the faculty that will come to you everytime some player forgets to bring a pencil to class. Make sure the teacher understands you think that is important, make a big tough show about it, then let it go (talk to the kid about putting in effort, it looks bad ect... but this is not the hill to die on). Remember point #2.
5) Volunteer for some {censored} duty / academic night / chaperone ect early in the year. People are going to assume "all he cares about is football," so sacrifice one evening early on to build good will.
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Post by coachks on Nov 22, 2022 14:27:31 GMT -6
How to coach Special Teams at the High School level. We bled points by being crappy on specials (Snapper was inconsistant, punter was inconsistent. Kicker couldn't kick deep enough, couldn't cover deep kicks anyway, pop-up kicks were unreliable, kids didn't play hard on punt block or the return).
Special teams cost us points, 1 game for sure and really changed two others - and we had almost no positives other than a couple pooch kicks we recovered.
I need to learn scheme that applies to the (Small school) HS level, I need to learn individual techniques for specialists so I can actually team them how to execute rather than just relying on the kids innate ability and hoping for the best.
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Post by coachks on Apr 28, 2022 9:49:59 GMT -6
In the last 2 years we have had three kids kept out of play due to heart conditions exposed during physicals. One of them moved to be closer to medical services and the other 2 are still not cleared for physical activity- just talked to one doing his correspondence PE class...about drugs. I don't know if their lives have been saved but they aren't doing sports. What heart condition was exposed during a sports physical? Was it more in depth then the "standard" sports physical?
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Post by coachks on Apr 27, 2022 9:17:24 GMT -6
For those one platoon teams (Kids starting Offense and Defense), how do you prefer to breakup practice.
50/50 Each Practice (45 O, 45 D, Team, Specials ect...) Theme Days (Walkthrough Monday, Defense Tuesday, Offense Wednesday, Pregame Thursday - for example).
Follow-up Question, how do you handle kids who do not play the opposite side (A big NT who can't play OL, the QB if he doesn't play defense ect...)
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Post by coachks on Jan 26, 2022 6:31:57 GMT -6
I'm also on team just pay an extra period.
Play an 8 minute quarter. If no winner, play a 2nd 8 minute quarter.
If you still don't have a winner after two 8-minute periods, then go to a 2point shootout (Soccer PK style).
Each team gets 5 attempts, whoever scores the most win. After the first 5 attempts, each round becomes sudden death.
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Post by coachks on Nov 26, 2021 16:09:09 GMT -6
Why does the rule exist? Why do you need 7 on the line of scrimmage? It's for safety. It's so people don't get killed. So if the questionable guy is outside the box and he's not in motion the offense gets the benefit of the doubt especially at the college level. Because without the rule, the game will pretty quickly cease being football and become something else that is closer to Ultimate Frisbee. We have recent history that this is true with the A11 offense, and how quickly that loophole really changed the way the game was fundamentally changed until the loophole was closed (obviously by certain teams only for that 2? year period).
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Post by coachks on Nov 18, 2021 7:49:49 GMT -6
Typically on the line is being defined as having your head past the hip of the center. #1 and #2 are definitely on the line, #3 is definitely off the line. I would make a serious argument that #4 is the on the line as well and should be ineligible.
My guess would be #3 ran a route within the '3 yards' of the line of scrimmage - some sort of screen, hitch or arrow route - but would have been ineligible to catch it.
This is where I continue to say that officials should spend less time arguing about shirtails, taunting and eye black and more time defining what downfield means (NFL rule is better) and policing alignments - since those actually do provide an advantage and were rules that were created with a purpose.
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Post by coachks on Nov 11, 2021 10:18:25 GMT -6
I feel as though there are more and more bad staffs every year. In my area there has been a serious increase in "trainer" coaches and their close cousin "social media" coaches.
Guys who post a thank you to every college who walks through the door. Guys who do all sorts of camps, 7 on 7s and combine nonsense to get guys noticed. Guys who post "grind and hustle" videos (during dead periods, holidays ect...) where they are running kids through cones.
But on Fridays the same kids cannot actually play out of a stance, their scheme does not match any of their combine prep garbage, they have no details on the route combinations, DL don't know how to use their hands (despite all the drill work they constantly post).
However, they are loved by parents and admins because they are "getting their kid looked at" - ignoring that half these dudes are getting their palms greased, most of these kids never actually get an offer - and the handful that do almost always end up at home after a semester because they are not prepared to play.
And they go 3-7.
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Post by coachks on Oct 13, 2021 9:49:56 GMT -6
Officials are currently too worried about excessive eyeblack, shirt tails and any display of emotion they can consider taunting to actually officiate the game.
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Post by coachks on Oct 7, 2021 12:46:52 GMT -6
A school of 265 has went to a just JV schedule for the remainder of the year. Another school of 756 has canceled their Friday night game due to a combo of quarantine and low numbers. The frustrating thing is both played last Friday against the teams on their schedule they had the best chance of beating the rest of the way. The small school lost 47-0 and the bigger school lost to a 1-4 team. Which, in a vacuum just seems like random facts, but I've been noticing that all these issues seem to peek just as teams are supposed to play the best teams they'll play all year. The small school plays the 3 best teams in the conference the rest of the season and the big school plays a state ranked, undefeated juggernaut Friday. A local private school who is ranked #1 in their class has had 3 schools be "unable to play" against them this season. At least one was just out the week they were supposed to play them. It seems like the cool thing to do now is fold up the tent when facing a beating and claim it's for "health and safety". No one seemed to care about health and safety in 1991 when I was wrestling that 275lb future NFL lineman when I weighed 193. Devils advocate here.... but at some point, isn't it actually a player safety issue? I think the divide between the top programs and the bottom programs is evolving rapidly - way more than when I graduated in 2005. To just give 4 examples.... Programs with college level facilities, college level S&C and dedicated athletes Programs with basic high school facilities and 25 year old programs and dedicated / semi dedicated athletes (multisport athletes in particular, who do not weight train enough for football). Programs with decent facilities and absolute dog {censored} S&C (programming wise) Programs with bare bones facilities that do not lift to any meaningful effect. When Program 1 plays Program 4, those kids on Program 4 are at a safety risk. It also happens to be that Program 1, also usually has better coaches. They have better technique and better scheme to go with their physical advantages. (This is not saying "Program 1" coach is better than 2 or 3, but generally good coaches don't deal with Program 4 for very long).
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Post by coachks on Sept 27, 2021 11:04:39 GMT -6
Not at all. I was just addressing why changing the NCHSAA has support. The characterization that it’s a bunch of greedy politicians with political motives (re: money, race and trans issues) is not the full story. Like most things I hope they find a middle ground. The NCHSAA has no oversight, but plays around with (what is ultimately) tax payer money. I think they can and should have oversight by the DPI that they do not currently have. I think that being directly under the General Assembly could potentially be worse than the current status quo. However, as a football coach, it’s possible that going under the GA will be worse for sports as a whole, but offer some benefits to football. It ain't the full story---but it's a bunch of greedy politicians that have personal agendas--not all are around race and transgender. But if you want to pretend that a local school being kept out of the playoffs, race, transgender and the Trump sign had nothing to do with any of this, go ahead. Some of us know about the emails that went from some of these guys to some of the money guys in NC politics who got involved because of those issues--not to help high school sports. That's why the legislature is involved. Period. Again, the state coaches, ADs, principals and superintendants ALL are opposed to what the legislature is doing. The other stuff that coaches complain about is what made them think they could get away with fulfilling their agendas. They're not in this to help kids or schools. You're sadly mistaken if you think that's what's at play here. Just what playing around have they done other than not spending the money---much of which is locked down and can't be spent? They gave back over $4 million to schools last year. Should they have been doing that? Yep. But they did that BEFORE this nonsense started. They didn't steal it. They didn't misspend it. They didn't waste it. So, are you in the small minority who thinks they should be dissolved? If not, it's up to the membership to fix it---not the legislature. (and just who in DPI do you think knows diddly squat about high school sports? They struggle with curriculum issues--although they DO have some level of control over NCHSAA). Can they do better? Sure they can. Lots better in a lot of areas. But not by letting these guys take it over. Did you even read my reply? No, the legislature should not take it over. First thing I said was "not at all" do I want that to happen. A lot of it is about schools being kept out of the playoffs. That is what I spent the majority of my post talking about. Is it probably a selfish motive by some powerful individuals? Yes. But that doesn't mean the NCHSAA wasn't wrong. You say that the majority of state coaches do not want the legislature to take over -that's true. I am with them. But having been in a few different states and working on a staff with guys from out of state, the NCHSAA is by far the least popular state athletic association any of us has been a part of. Other than HighschoolOT, I don't see a ton of people running to their defense either (a website that they have a direct connection with via James Alverson. Not exactly an unbias source). My biggest hope is that it serves as a wakeup call for the NCHSAA, and they reform some of their policies - including things like actually listening to the coaches associations. For example, last spring when the entire lax association asked for the season to NOT overlap with football, and NOT to be played in January (being a spring sport and all) and the NCHSAA says... nah, we made a decision. So kids had to make decisions about what sports to play, and schools had to manage 4 different teams playing on 1 field... so we can get to the actual spring season and watch the game fields and practice fields sit empty.
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Post by coachks on Sept 23, 2021 11:02:50 GMT -6
See the NCHSAA says everything is agreed upon by "The Membership" O.k., but the people who actually interact with the rules and punishment are not "The Membership" that votes on them. Big picture, "The Membership" means principals - who change constantly, are often uninvolved / unqualified / uninterested in Athletics. They sent out a simple survey asking principals to vote to add a new classification and they could barely get enough responses. So the idea that the are rules that are "agreed upon" is silly. Most of the people who vote on the rules don't have the same position in 2-3 years. Athletic Directors in NC are only slightly more stable year to year. So, you think the answer is to give the organization to the legislature, a group of lawyers and car salesmen whose membership also changes every few years? Not at all. I was just addressing why changing the NCHSAA has support. The characterization that it’s a bunch of greedy politicians with political motives (re: money, race and trans issues) is not the full story. Like most things I hope they find a middle ground. The NCHSAA has no oversight, but plays around with (what is ultimately) tax payer money. I think they can and should have oversight by the DPI that they do not currently have. I think that being directly under the General Assembly could potentially be worse than the current status quo. However, as a football coach, it’s possible that going under the GA will be worse for sports as a whole, but offer some benefits to football.
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Post by coachks on Sept 23, 2021 9:13:29 GMT -6
So here's the skinny: 1. This is a the case of a few members of the legislature who are unhappy primarily with the current director over their own personal and political disagreements 2. The NCHSAA has a lot of money. It hasn't been mismanaged, it isn't missing. Money hasn't been spent on questionable items. It just hasn't been spent. They have a lot of it. Politicians are using "money" to make it sound like someone's being dishonest. They aren't. 3. People always complain about these associations. I do myself. There is another thread on here about Georgia. Politicians again trying to use that without actually solving complaints. 4. One powerful politician doesn't like it because a team in his district was kept out of the playoffs because they violated a rule about how many players during a season can engage in a fight (like it or not, the rule has really limited fights). 5. Some are angry over cheerleaders and a Trump sign and the action the director took on that. 6. Some of them are unhappy over Covid protocols. 7. The director is an African-American woman. Some see her as arrogant and difficult to deal with. (You can take 5, 6 and 7 anyway you want, but this action is largely coming from very red areas of NC.) 8. Many believe it would go away if she did. She was near retirement. She'll probably hang on to fight this. 9. They reportedly have their own good old boy they want to put in charge. 10. The ADs, coaches association, principals---name any school group--and they all support NCHSAA and oppose this attempt to dismantle it.. 11. I can't imagine anything worse than politicians in charge of high school sports There are a few other background things which I'm not at liberty to post about since it was shown me in confidence. Some of it ties together the political parts of this and others outside the legislature who are involved. we've seen this down south, and it's mostly like you said. NOBODY likes the referee, and the these associations are the referees. Ours have been taken to court by member institutions because those member institutions have been unhappy that the rules they agreed upon were broken by themselves. I'm going to disagree with that last part - "the rules they agreed upon were broken by themselves" - that's not really how they NCHSAA operates. Or atleast, in practice - that's not really how it operates. See the NCHSAA says everything is agreed upon by "The Membership" O.k., but the people who actually interact with the rules and punishment are not "The Membership" that votes on them. Big picture, "The Membership" means principals - who change constantly, are often uninvolved / unqualified / uninterested in Athletics. They sent out a simple survey asking principals to vote to add a new classification and they could barely get enough responses. So the idea that the are rules that are "agreed upon" is silly. Most of the people who vote on the rules don't have the same position in 2-3 years. Athletic Directors in NC are only slightly more stable year to year. The biggest issue I have (and others, besides the greedy money thing which is a lot) is that the punishments don't fit the crime and there is no appeals. Every season we have teams kicked out of the playoffs for paperwork. In multiple sports. Suspend coaches. Fine schools. Punish the ADs (which is where almost all of the paperwork issues stem from). Instead, the NCHSAA just bans the team from the playoffs, poof - season over. There's no appeal. This isn't a rare thing, every year has teams removed in multiple sports for simple eligibility issues - usually because of the AD not filing out eligibility correctly. It's almost always self-reported and innocent mistakes. The argument they give is "the rules are the rules" - but yet we have an entire legal system built on judges interpreting cases, arbitration, mediation and all sorts of context involving unique situations. If all that matters is "the rules are the rules", what do we even need an association for anyway? They don't provide any services to school. They don't investigate anything, nobody has ever heard of them actually stopping a transfer or ineligible player except by self-report... they make a bracket for each sport? Ok, find a software program and save everybody a lot of time and energy.
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Post by coachks on Sept 15, 2021 5:14:54 GMT -6
You can go on the field to make the call so the players will still find you. I got a penalty for that on Friday. There was a penalty and they hadn't even started marking it off, I was 3 steps on the field giving a signal and saying something to the FS and they threw a flag for it. I was baffled.
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Post by coachks on Sept 14, 2021 5:09:16 GMT -6
2) A lot of Indy drills are mastered early on, and serve no function other than eating 10 minutes a day of practice. Bag drills, W drills, Chutes, Sleds. They have merit at a point in the season (Spring, Summer, Non-Padded days) but I do not think have a lot of value in-season. Couldn't disagree more. Skills need to be practiced or they deteriorate. You can cut down the time after they get good at it but I'd never stop working fundamentals. I agree. I didn't say eliminate Indy. I said a lot of Indy drills are a waste of time once they are mastered. I'll use the "W" drill as an example. Why do you do the W Drill? Teach kids to keep their feet and body position transitioning from forward to backwards ect. You can get a lot of reps (4 "transitions"), kids can rip right through the reps because it's minimal equipment. No problem with the drill. It's not "realistic" - there is no stimulus, you don't transition at 45 degree angles 4 times in a play. Eventually it's just muscle memory of hitting the drill - but the drill itself doesn't translate to a game. You use the drill to teach the skill, but once you have taught the skill you need to transition to more realistic drills. What's a more realistic drill? Put your DB in a backpedal, have a WR run a slant to a designated cone and make the DB pedal then break 45 degrees and make a play on the route. Same 45 degree break, but it's more realistic. You can make it more realistic by adding a double move and making the DB recover (making the W). The issue with drill #2, a more realistic drill, is that one of the following is going to be true: 1) You are going to create a collision at the catch point. So either you need to limit the reps, or one side needs to back off (unrealistic effort that I alluded to). 2)You are banking on the QB and backup DB being able to run a slant, throw a slant and catch a slant. Again, not necessarily true and leads to a lot of wasted reps. 3) To fix those two issues you need to tag up with the WR group - which is a waste of time for them. At that point, just run 1 on 1 routes. We all know 1 on 1 pass is a waste of time, so you might as well just run team pass. Once we are out of camp, I want to run drill #2. I know the limits of drill #2, it has diminishing returns after a few reps, so I now it's only going to take me 3-4 minutes. I'm not going to waste my time running the W before drill #2. They get the skill retention from drill #2. I can do 3 drills (like drill #2) in a 10 minute indy period.
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Post by coachks on Sept 14, 2021 4:50:04 GMT -6
I think it's obviously hyperbole. I do think the general idea has a lot of merit for a few reasons. 1) Football is a mental sport. Remembering assignments, reading keys, going through progressions during "live" cannot be simulated in Indy. We all know a ton of kids who can do a drill perfectly, but can't translate it to the game. 2) A lot of Indy drills are mastered early on, and serve no function other than eating 10 minutes a day of practice. Bag drills, W drills, Chutes, Sleds. They have merit at a point in the season (Spring, Summer, Non-Padded days) but I do not think have a lot of value in-season. 3) That also applies to most "group" work. 7 on 7. Inside Run. Segmented work has a place (spring, summer, install times), but is inferior to playing 11 on 11. It creates bad habits, false keys ect. 4) Indy drills are unrealistic effort wise. Guys brother-in-lawing double team drill, or going through the motions as a ball-carrier, or using handshields to save shoulders... none of it creates good habits. A lot of the time the "winner" is based solely off who is trying harder. Since nobody wants guys getting hurt on a Tuesday indy session we don't WANT guys going 100% either. But the idea that a drill you went at 70% effort wise is going to translate to a live game is a stretch. 5) Having player stand around while you teach a play on the field is stupid. Do it on a whiteboard. Do it during film. Having kids stand around with a helmet on while you "teach" a play during indy is wasteful. I think that 2.5 hour in-season high school practice is a lot more effective if you break it down by: 1) Lifting / Prehab / Rehab for 30 minutes. 2) Film / Meeting for 30 minutes. 3) Walk through for 10 minutes. 4) Indy for 10 Minutes. 5) Team 70 Minutes. Why do you feel like you can get great effort or attention in team or on the whiteboard but not during Indy? Why don't we teach class outside?
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Post by coachks on Sept 13, 2021 11:11:28 GMT -6
I think it's obviously hyperbole.
I do think the general idea has a lot of merit for a few reasons.
1) Football is a mental sport. Remembering assignments, reading keys, going through progressions during "live" cannot be simulated in Indy. We all know a ton of kids who can do a drill perfectly, but can't translate it to the game.
2) A lot of Indy drills are mastered early on, and serve no function other than eating 10 minutes a day of practice. Bag drills, W drills, Chutes, Sleds. They have merit at a point in the season (Spring, Summer, Non-Padded days) but I do not think have a lot of value in-season.
3) That also applies to most "group" work. 7 on 7. Inside Run. Segmented work has a place (spring, summer, install times), but is inferior to playing 11 on 11. It creates bad habits, false keys ect.
4) Indy drills are unrealistic effort wise. Guys brother-in-lawing double team drill, or going through the motions as a ball-carrier, or using handshields to save shoulders... none of it creates good habits. A lot of the time the "winner" is based solely off who is trying harder. Since nobody wants guys getting hurt on a Tuesday indy session we don't WANT guys going 100% either. But the idea that a drill you went at 70% effort wise is going to translate to a live game is a stretch.
5) Having player stand around while you teach a play on the field is stupid. Do it on a whiteboard. Do it during film. Having kids stand around with a helmet on while you "teach" a play during indy is wasteful.
I think that 2.5 hour in-season high school practice is a lot more effective if you break it down by: 1) Lifting / Prehab / Rehab for 30 minutes. 2) Film / Meeting for 30 minutes. 3) Walk through for 10 minutes. 4) Indy for 10 Minutes. 5) Team 70 Minutes.
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