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Post by tiger46 on Aug 10, 2009 12:32:08 GMT -6
Coach, what offense are you going to be running? That may help with deciding on how you want to teach hole numbering.
I coached 9>10's, using DC's UBSW, also. Like Coach Eikst, I didn't number holes, either. I numbered the linemen. 3-1-C-2-4-6-8. I kept Dave's play terminology. The backs were numbered 1>4. The 'C' knew any play that began with a 1 or a 4 were snapped to the TB. 2 = FB, 3 = BB, 4 = TB hand-off to WB. Backs knew to run to whatever O-lineman that was designated. So, 16 Power was snap to the '1' back; who would then run to the '6' lineman.
Once the kids understood the rules, I could bend them if needed. i.e... we had 'Jet 29' and ' Jet 37 Pass' that both snapped to the TB. Of course, the TB was the only one that it could be snapped to in our Jet formation, so it didn't take a lot of brainpower for the 'C' to figure out who to snap it to.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 6, 2009 12:05:34 GMT -6
I have to ask. What grade level was this kid?
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 5, 2009 11:57:02 GMT -6
Worst speech I ever heard was by me during my first season of coaching youth football. I was an AC. The HC couldn't make it to the game. So, I was left with the half-time speech. The second worse speech was any of the speeches the HC would give before, during or after a game. Nothing about it was funny. So, I won't try to repeat any of it. I'm still embarrassed by it. We were really bad coaches in a terrible organization. And, I owe those kids an apology. I guess the only person that ended up motivated in the least bit about my speech was me. After the season, it was one of the factors that made me realize how crappy of a coach that I was. And, made me seek help by finding football materials and coaching boards like this one.
I'm still far from being a great coach. But, thanks to you all for the improvements that ya'll have helped me to make over the years. And, my gratitude is sincere.
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 3, 2009 6:38:57 GMT -6
Prayers for your family
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MMA
Jul 15, 2009 12:42:44 GMT -6
Post by tiger46 on Jul 15, 2009 12:42:44 GMT -6
If participation in another physical sport, be it karate, boxing, fencing, MMA or whatever, improved my players' self-confidence and physicality on the football field; then, I'm all for it. I could care less if it actually made them whup a$$ in a bar fight. Actually, I coach youth so I guess I don't really have to be concerned about one of my players being in a bar fight. But, if I were a HS coach, I'd be sure to inform my players that learning MMA doesn't make them street toughs. Hopefully, they can keep it in perspective. I grew up in a small country town when boys often fought to settle differences. I've been in the military. Worked as a bouncer in a rough club and frequented some pretty low places in my younger, wilder days. Learned martial arts, hand-to-hand combat and self-defense. That guy in that video may sound like a clown because of his special effects sounds. But, a lot of what he's demonstrating is absolutely correct and effective. I've had to use similar methods. I'm no expert on fighting. It's always best to diffuse or walk away from a fight, imo. But, if it came down to it and a fight was going to happen, I decided it was better to win it than to come in second place. Get in. Get it over with. Get out of there. Didn't try to be a bad a$$ and slug it out or do some fancy looking spinning kicks.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 12, 2009 23:18:27 GMT -6
LOL! We have a 'Coach Tree', also. It performs the same duties as jpdaley25's 'Excuse Tree'.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 11, 2009 8:14:38 GMT -6
I'm a youth coach. So, this may not work for your team. But, in practice, I gave mine something to complain about. You can do this with a scrimmage or various drills. Basically, just make bad calls and fail to make correct calls. And, make the consequences of those calls harsh and unyielding. Any arguing with me or the other coaches got the player 'ejected' and more adversity for him and his team. I would talk to the player and explain how to handle bad calls, etc... Sometimes, we even told the players that the calls were bad. But, that is the way it goes in football. They have to learn to deal with it.
I dont' know if you're having the problem of players whining about other players. But, just in case; here's another policy that we had. No player was allowed to whine about his teammate. If someone felt that another player wasn't putting in 100% effort, they were to inform one of the coaches. The exception to that was the o-line. No one (especially a back) was allowed to complain about blocking. But, The o-line could- and, did- eject any back that complained or whined. Happened in practice and in a game. Mr. Stud TB couldn't believe he had just been ejected from the field by his o-line because of whining. He was replaced and the team marched down the field and scored without him. I didn't let him run the ball again until the second half. His attitude had been properly adjusted by then. Also, the o-line could eject any back that they felt wasn't putting in 100% effort. That included a back that continuously missed the hole assignment or, didn't block for the other backs.
Again, none of that may be a good solution for your team. I coached youth in a poor neighborhood. A lot of the kids were missing life skills. Whining, cursing and/or punching someone's lights out was their way of dealing with most issues. They had to be taught other methods of dealing with adversity.
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Post by tiger46 on Jul 9, 2009 19:05:29 GMT -6
Hello Coaches,
I’m probably venting. But, I have a question. Has anyone ever had to start over? I mean starting over trying to build a program? I coached 3 seasons at a league for poor kids. I started out with 8>9 yr. olds (2006). There was no 8>9 yr old team within the org. that I started with. I had to recruit the players myself, get the team started, etc… My 1st year, we had 13 players. Finished the year with 11. Not all of them would show up for games. In fact, we won our play-off game that season with 9 players; believe it, or not. The next season was better (2007). We got moved up to 9>10 yr. old bracket and I got to keep my players. At our height, we had 22 players. But, that didn’t last long. In reality, we had 16 players. Ended the season with 15. We lost our play-off game due to a number of factors. That game still upsets me to this day. But, it would be a seperate post to vent about that game.
Last season (2008) was a total bust. Started with 15 players. None of whom would consistently make it to practice, games, etc… Lost every game but one. Finished with 10 players. We tied in our final game of the season. This season, the organization decided to move locations. Still in a poor area. But, hoping for better recruitment. I will not be able to coach this upcoming season. I switched jobs and my hours really aren’t ideal for coaching. But, recently, I found out that my assistant coach that I had last season won’t be able to take over the team. Our org. had been counting on him to be able to do that. But, he had job obligations, also. So, now the org. will have no coach at the 9>10 age level and will probably have to drop that age group. That saddens me. What little that I was able to build is going to crumble to dust by the looks of things. If I get a promotion in the next year, my hours will change in such a way that I can coach again. Other inner-city and poor area coaches can probably testify to what it takes to build even the least bit of positive influence in kids from those kinds of areas. I’m honest enough with myself that I have to admit that rebuilding under those circumstances doesn’t appeal to me a great deal. But, I’ll do it for the boys.
Anybody have any experience with rebuilding? Are there any tips that someone can give me? I will have none of the boys from my previous seasons. It will be a rebuild totally from scratch.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 29, 2009 12:29:52 GMT -6
This may sound harsh but, I'd say go coach HS and/or leave your son's team and coaches alone. Obviously, it's sometimes hard to accurately gauge someone's state of mind just by reading a post. But, from what I'm reading, your attitude will be all wrong to be of any real help to them unless you're willing to adjust it. You think you know more than the youth coaches do. And, you most likely do. I have read and used Cisar's material. I'd recommend it to any youth coach. It is absolutely great. And, after using it, there's no way I, as a youth coach, could match wits with someone like you- a HS coach. So, your frustration level, already being high, will only rise higher as you dealt with youth coaches. Also, they may or, may not, have more experience than you at coaching young players. I don't know your background with coaching youth or theirs. Some of what they do and make a priority will definitely not match with what you as a HS coach would do. Following Cisar's material would go a long way in bridging any gaps. But, if those coaches don't use that sort of coaching technique or, have never heard of Dave Cisar, you'll resent them. You could even end up doing what I know no responsible coach ever wants to do; poisoning the team. As I'm sure you're well aware, just keeping silent isn't enough to be a good assistant coach. If they're a good coaching staff, they'll already have practice organization, schemes and techniques down to how they like it. So, any outside methods- yours or Cisar's- probably wouldn't be well received. If they're bad, they'll have none of that stuff down but, think that they do. So, any outside methods- yours or Cisar's- probably wouldn't be well received. If they're bad and know that they're bad coaches well then... you may have a shot at enhancing they're **program.
**NOTE: In my experience, good youth coaches have a football program; not just a team.
Of course, just the opposite can happen. The coaches may be relieved to see you and rely heavily on your knowledge and abilities. But, don't count on that happening. It's rare to run across a youth coach that will admit that he isn't qualified and will raise his hand and say, "I need someone to teach me how to coach."
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 23, 2009 9:37:59 GMT -6
I'm stating the obvious here, I'm sure. But, just be careful of any metal fasteners, etc...
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 19, 2009 17:36:06 GMT -6
My wife has a number of them. But, when she first learned that I spent a lot of time here when I'm on the computer, she didn't like it. She felt I spent too much time here. I tried to explain to her the breadth & width of football knowledge and the number and variety of coaches that frequent this site. She didn't get it at first. She looked at me and was dead serious when she asked, "Well, if they want to come help out during Saturday's game, I got stuff for them to do." Hmm...now that I think about it, she had a point. I need about 25 of you on the sidelines with me. Another 50 of you in the stands to yell out how much I suck and point out to everyone else how you'd run things- you know, so we can keep that authentic average fans in the stands atmosphere. Oh, yeah. If I could get another 25 of you to scout games, that'd be great, too. 9>10 yr old youth teams. Small league. Shouldn't be anything ya'll haven't seen before. Oh,yeah. If you decide to volunteer, be careful. My wife is Team Mom, runs a tight ship and takes no s**t from coaches- especially me.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 10, 2009 18:23:57 GMT -6
The Motorcycle Safety Foundation is really a good source to help riders know the safety regulations and good riding habits of motorcyclists.
I live in Austin, Tx. It's been named the 'Motorcycle Death Capital'. That's right. More people die of motorcycle related injuries here in Austin than any other place in the United States.
All of this brings up some very important questions for you, Senator. . . . . . Was it a buck or a doe? If it was a buck, was it at least a 12-point?
I only ask because, although I agree with phantom about accuracy, some Jack Daniels and a half decent dirt bike is all you need to take out any deer 10-point and under if you're really committed to gittin 'er done. Oh, yeah, sure. I know what people are thinking right now. Harleys deliver a much more lethal impact to a deer and, that's absolutely true. But, if you use one on small deer, it sort of makes the rider look like a pu$$y.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 5, 2009 8:34:36 GMT -6
Sad event for the SW community and football in general, I think. I have his material. Never got the honor to meet or speak with him.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 5, 2009 8:28:23 GMT -6
Hope it works out for you, too. I hope you and your staff can get all the programs working as a single entity. It's really strange to me when I hear about coaches at the same school with athletic programs that compete against one another.
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 1, 2009 9:53:06 GMT -6
"... But if you go straight to Cisar, you'll have all the answers, but won't know why they are the right answers... and like the earlier coach, begin to question those answers, simply because you don't know the importance of the question..." I'm not trying to be argumentative. But, it is absolutely possible to pick up Dave's system, run with it and, never look back. I was one of them. The how's & why's are explained nicely. Also,- and, I know this is not a featured bonus of Dave's material because he has no control over any of it- I can think of at least three different forums that Dave posts on regularly. And, there's a single link at Dave's site that makes it above par. www.directsnapfootball.com. That site has its own links page. With all of the coaches sharing their knowledge at those various sites, there's almost no information that a prospective SW coach at any level can't find. A new coach can see that Dave is on the money with his answers because he posts publicly and is scrutinized publicly on forums with other experienced youth and SW coaches. If they disagree with him, they're not shy about letting anyone know. Personally, I've read very little of Reed's SW material. I know that I don't need to read it. It would be a waste of my time. To be fair, I did read and use his GAM for one season. But, back to sw; a new coach does not need to Reed's material, imo. Dave's material covers the stuff Reed's covers and it also answers the follow-up questions a new coach is going to have. There's no need to suffer through a mediocre season by being limited to what Reed gives. It's about value. I had $50 to spend. I was buying gold. One guy offered me a 1lb. sack and tells me, "That's mostly wet mud. It has some fool's gold mixed in, too. But, you can find some real 24k gold nuggets in there, too." The other guy offered me a 1lb sack and says, "That's all pure 24k gold nuggets. I've already sifted the mud out, seperated the fool's gold and only filled this sack with the pure nuggets. It's verified by me and many others. But, if you're ever not satisfied, here's where I hang out. And, here's how to contact me." I know which one I bought.
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Post by tiger46 on May 30, 2009 12:55:07 GMT -6
O-line- Roman Legion D-line- Viking Raiders
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Post by tiger46 on May 23, 2009 14:41:15 GMT -6
Youth(/shrug- I'm a youth coach): Any select team. I'd return to my small, poor inner-city team after that. But, just once, I'd like to experience having an athlete at every position. Also, I'd love to be an asst. coach to Dave Cisar, Dave Potter or, a few other really good youth coaches that post on the youth boards.
High School: Any Texas team at any level higher than 6-man.
College: Texas A & M against all takers.
Pros: Dallas Cowboys
I'd prefer to be a DB coach. But, I'd take anything, including fetching and hauling water if that was what the team(s) needed me to do.
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Post by tiger46 on May 23, 2009 13:52:34 GMT -6
I agree that you can't stop kids from taking risks. You can only try to caution them against doing really stupid stuff. As the other coaches mentioned, the type of kids that will play football with all their heart typically aren't the type that will shy away from other risky activities. It doesn't always turn out bad. I remember this guy from my HS days. He was the starting NG at 5'8" and about 150lbs. And, he was a RB on offense. www.wranglersports.com/tradition/pros/jsharp.htmNow, just think if the coaches had tried to prevent him from risking injuries outside of playing football.
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Post by tiger46 on May 16, 2009 14:10:27 GMT -6
Again....I was definitely not trying to point fingers at anyone. I hope that coach mce86 did not take it that way. I apologize now to coach mce86 if my post was taken that way. I am a youth coach. He's a HS coach. Football is something I coach on the side. Coaching football is part of his profession. I was not trying to tell him how to coach football players. I was commiserating with him about having to teach things to players that we assume that they know. And, that we can never assume that they already know anything. Football programs with feeder schools would possibly be exceptions to me. I think HS coaches that have feeder programs should be able to expect their players to be handed up to them with some basic knowledge of what they're doing.
I grew up in a small town. No tackle football until 7th grade. But, it was a feeder system. We learned things about tackle football in 3rd thru 6th grades before we ever played a down. It was part of our P.E. curriculum. And, of course, we all played sandlot football. I was not- and, am still not- an expert on football. Nor, will I ever be. But, when I first tried to be a youth coach, I assumed everybody knew some basics of football. Fast-forward to the kids(9>10) and (11>12) that I coach today. I coach kids in a poor neighborhood. They play recess and street football, too. Also, to the best of my knowledge, I have never had a single boy on one of my teams that has never played Madden NFL. All of them own it or have played it. Given my background and theirs; I was a bit shocked when I found out how many of them didn't know the difference between 'offense' and 'defense'. lol!
Btw, one of the least enjoyable experiences for me when I go to HS & Jr. High games is to have to listen to some @$$hole in the stands bad-mouthing the coaches on the field. Last season, I left a game early because of one of those jerks in the stands. This 'expert' was spewing utter garbage. But, he had everyone around him believing his crap although he was proven wrong time and again by the play on the field. What was worse was that he wasn't the only football expert sitting in the stands. He was just the loudest. Maybe that's the trouble with football. There's always more expert coaches sitting in the stands giving opinions than there are of us dumb coaches on the sidelines actually doing the job.
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Post by tiger46 on May 9, 2009 9:08:38 GMT -6
I'm not trying to point fingers here. But, as coaches, who do we think is responsible for our players knowing such information? I'm a youth coach. I've learned to never assume a player- at any level- knows anything that you haven't directly taught to him. I live right across the street from my kids' Jr. High. I've been to a Jr. High game and saw stances so terrible, it's as if the players had never been taught. Although, I've walked by their practices and saw the coaches working with them. I've been to a HS game and heard a player getting chewed out by his coach for something that he didn't know. So, not only do we have the responsibility to teach things to them, we have to hammer those things into their heads repeatedly. For my 9>10yr old players, I've gotten out tape measures, cones, etc... to show them what 3ft./1yrd means. Show them how far 10yrds are. I do the math on my whiteboard for them and make them participate. Punts are rare at youth level. To make them understand playing downhill, in defensive drills, I demonstrate the difference of giving up 2.5yrds(first down) and giving up 2yrds(our ball) per play. On offense, we stress to them what it means to strive for that little extra half-yard. Is it crucial that a player knows the conversion of feet to yards? Probably not. But, it is fundamental knowledge what we coaches want them to have. Maybe we go overboard. But, it seems to help them understand the game of football better. Example: My LB's are 4yrds off the LOS. When I mark 2.5 yrds off from the LOS, they get to visually see just how little margin for error they have. They have to read, react and get to the ball-carrier quickly with good technique and bad attitude.
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Post by tiger46 on May 6, 2009 8:32:21 GMT -6
Hats off to you guys, I dont know how you do it long term Ive coached in the suburbs and now rural area Those guys have NO CLUE how tough it is to coach in the inner-city, YOu are more social worker than coach and it can be emotionally draining and frustrating. The late night phone calls ( Johhnys in jail, Jerome brought a gun home today etc) Taking 10 kids to every game Kids with no food on the weekends Kids whose parent is living in a shelter or in jail, living with tired and worn out grandma AWOL parents/guardians Loser peers trying to make sure no one succeeds, crawfish in a boiling pot syndrome No phone Constant moves No dads in the home (70+%) Little parental/peer respect for getting an education and excelling Jerry Springer show like sidelines Yep. Just add in Katrina victims; remove the phonecalls and, you described my coaching environment for the last 3yrs. Almost no one actually calls us except for the one mom who wanted us to tell the police that her son was at football practice instead of where he actually was- vandalizing someone's property and starting a fight with their children.
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Post by tiger46 on May 5, 2009 8:06:20 GMT -6
Not actually focusing on the task will allow people to see the gorilla more easily. For those that do see the gorilla the first time they view the video, even fewer see the gorilla the first time and keep an accurate count of the passes.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 22, 2009 11:51:01 GMT -6
Had a player lie on the ground during a football game. Said his arm was hurt. I saw the tackle. If that tackle hurt his arm enough to make him not get up again, this kid had no business in football gear. He wasn't even hit on his arm. He'd put his arm out to break his fall. His mother came running out onto the field like he'd been in WWII. The kid gets up and is limping while holding his arm out for his mother to see. There's a difference between being hurt and being injured. And, parents had already been warned during the meeting not to come on the field for any reason. If their kid is hurt, we'll get him up and going. If he's injured, there's paramedics there. They would just get in the way. On the sideline, I told him, "Son, if I ever see you just lay on the ground until your mommy has to come out on the field and treat you like a baby, you'll spend the rest of the game sitting beside her in the stands. You obviously need her attention more than you need ours." During half-time, I repeated our policy to both players and parents- including the part about where the player will be spending the rest of the game. Needless to say, that kid- nor his mother- ever pulled that stunt again.
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Gangs
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 22, 2009 11:31:28 GMT -6
I watch gangland on TV sometimes. Some of that stuff is crazy but you know, that is pretty much the culture some of those kids grew up in and it was "normal". It's really no different than anything else, for the most part it's mimic behavior and belonging. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this but a few years ago I took some kids to a 1 day camp, and after the camp we stopped at Burger King to eat. Normal behavior right? 1 of my kids had never eat fast food before. He told me kind of quietly and off by ourselves and I said "that's nuts, come on...you're 15 years old and you're telling me you've NEVER been to McDonalds?" He said "we don't have much money and mom will never stop. I've had a french fry or 2 if someone else gives it to me, but I've never walked to the counter and ordered food for myself before." ~partially explains why his meal was $16, I think he ordered the odds. lol. Like I said before - you got to becareful - for some of your kids - school and football might be the single brightest parts of their day. dcohio, Had close to the same experience. Our mini-van was the team's bus for my youth 9>10yr old team. We had dropped off about 4 kids. We had one left in the van with our family. We forgot he was in the van. My wife and I were discussing where to eat. We decided to eat a Chinese buffet place. The kid chimes in, "That sounds good.", a little sadly. We told him he could come along. The kid almost devoured everything in sight. He was so happy. My kids thought nothing of eating out at a restaurant. A year later, it's the next season, we're at practice. The players were all talking about 'the best days of their lives'. Some of those days were pretty sad, imo. That same kid told about the day he got to eat at a restaurant with me and my family. It had meant that much to him. I tell ya, mean, gruff coach that I am, I got so choked up I would've filled out adoption papers for him on the spot had I thought his mother would've let me. And, here's something that really broke my heart. After the season was over, I found out that the kid didn't have a coat. I had paid for his cleats the previous seasons. I did so by 'accidently' making sure he was with me when I went to buy my son's cleats. I was trying to track him down- his family had been evicted from their previous apartments- to make sure he was 'accidently' happen to be around while I was buying my kids new coats. On about the second day that I was searching for him, I open the newspaper. In the local news section was a picture of this boy, his sisters and brother, sitting in the back of a bus with what little in the world that they owned. Their apartment complex that he had moved to had been burned to the ground. I never found where he lives now. Rumor has it that his dad, who recently got out of prison, has him somewhere in another town.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 22, 2009 11:10:04 GMT -6
"...I have gone round and round with myself on what to do with the kid..........Iv'e talked to him, encouraged him, tried everything...The easy thing to do is cut him loose from the team,..."
I coach youth football for kids in a poor neighborhood, etc... Sometimes, cutting a player from the team is the hardest thing to do, imo- especially when you want so much for them to succeed. But, sometimes, it has to be done. I hope, for this kid's sake, that it doesn't end up coming to that in his case. You can't save them all. You just can't.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 14, 2009 0:15:04 GMT -6
Our 9>10yr old team called big hits and pancake blocks 'lollipops' because I gave a lollipop to the kids that made them. So, in a game you could hear our coaches- and, some parents that knew what the term meant- yelling 'lollipops'. It tended to amp the kids up- especially on defense. I was surprised at how motivated players were to get a cheap lollipop presented to them in front of the team after practice and games. Later in the season, I had to start raising the requirements because I was scared some of those kids were going to get cavities.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 9, 2009 0:14:47 GMT -6
I think everyone has covered it. No need to discourage him. He'll get enough of that from everyone else. But, he will need someone to tell him about the reality of what he aspires to do. Who knows, you may just have another 'Rudy' on you hands.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 8, 2009 7:42:17 GMT -6
Been through something like that- only I was that kid. I wasn't a star player. I got into it with the varsity HC during off-season football when I was a freshman. Never played football again and football was my favorite sport. The bad part was that the varsity HC wasn't even the coach that caused my blow up. It was an AC that almost no one liked. I wasn't the only player that left football because of him. The worse part about it for me- even more so than losing 3yrs of HS football- is that I never apologized to that HC. It's been well over 20yrs since that happened and I'm sure he forgot about the incident no more than a few days later. But, if I ever saw that man again the first thing I would do is extend my hand and apologize for my stupid behavior.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 7, 2009 2:51:31 GMT -6
".... I am going to be coaching receivers next year, and have thought about implementing a system of: If you drop a ball, miss a block, not going full speed, etc, You will do up downs after practice. With the lack of depth I am going to have at receiver, I think it will also help with getting them to practice harder...."
Coach, Doing up/downs, bearcrawls or, any other punitive activity will not make your receivers any better at what they need to be good at....catching footballs. If anything, you would rather have them doing some type of receiver drills after practice to reinforce and emphasize what techniques that you are coaching. Some bearcrawls and up/downs may help with laziness. But, sometimes, just having a stopwatch around your neck, looking at it and then giving your player a look of disappointment will do the trick just as well. And, you didn't have to lose practice time doing some non-WR related activity. As you're well aware, practice time is as precious as gold. Be mindful of how it is spent.
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Post by tiger46 on Apr 4, 2009 18:33:58 GMT -6
I don't think a coach would teach anything like that to his players- at least, not the caliber of coaches that visit this board. But, as a coach, I'd never even mention such a scenario within earshot of my players. A coach may be above such actions but, players aren't necessarily as ethical. I know when I was a player, I was a bit on the dirty side. I'm not saying that with pride. It's just the way my mental make-up was back then. Some of the things that I did weren't technically illegal. But, I'd never want any of my players doing any of that kind of stuff.
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