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Post by Coach JR on May 29, 2009 15:23:14 GMT -6
What attributes make a "big boy" an OL or DL. I know some can be either, but what makes one better suited to do one or the other?
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Post by jgordon1 on May 29, 2009 15:50:05 GMT -6
Well I always used to think that the Oline was controlled fury and dline well.....
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Post by cnunley on May 29, 2009 15:51:36 GMT -6
Off topic....but if you're superstitious make another post soon (666)
On topic...the first thing that popped into my head is smarts. I want my OL to be somewhat smart to realize when to double, what step to make, etc...
Just my opinion
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Post by Coach JR on May 29, 2009 16:03:13 GMT -6
Off topic....but if you're superstitious make another post soon (666) On topic...the first thing that popped into my head is smarts. I want my OL to be somewhat smart to realize when to double, what step to make, etc... Just my opinion I am a bit supersticious, thanks. I'm looking for just that...opinions. |
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Post by fbcoach74 on May 29, 2009 16:07:47 GMT -6
I pick o-line that are tough, are selfless, and smart, they need to be about the team and be willing to do the dirty work. Which is hard for some kids they do not get as much credit as they need. From there you can improve their strength, their footwork etc. For our d-line we like athletes and if they are not the brighest that is ok, we make it real simple for them.
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Post by phantom on May 29, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -6
What attributes make a "big boy" an OL or DL. I know some can be either, but what makes one better suited to do one or the other? DL will generally be quicker and more athletic. OL do have to be more intelligent. |
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Post by coachwilley on May 29, 2009 16:47:15 GMT -6
D-Line can play with a little more emotion. I want guys that are way "geeked up" and ready to be crazy. O-Line more on a controlled agression like a previous poster said. Generally I think D-Lineman can be a little more athletic.
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Post by byuwolverine on May 29, 2009 17:01:59 GMT -6
D-line: Knows angles, Attacking style while still observant to know where his bubble of play is.
O-line: Smart, knows angles, Just Get it done attitude.
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Post by camppack on May 29, 2009 20:32:31 GMT -6
O-Line: Smart, controlled, team oriented, likes structure, enjoys (well maybe just tolerates) repetition required to learn blocking skills
D-Line: Aggressive, athletic, plays with abandon, more me (making tackles, sacking QBs) oriented
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Post by coachks on May 29, 2009 22:35:47 GMT -6
Simple, the offensive line are the leftovers after we stack up the defensive line.
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Post by splitricky5 on May 30, 2009 0:03:30 GMT -6
Find a really good one so you can play him at both.  |
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Post by fbdoc on May 30, 2009 8:03:02 GMT -6
coachks said it. The O-line are the ones left over who can't run, catch, throw, or tackle. That's why you need your BEST Coach as the o-line coach so he can make them into football players.
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Post by tiger46 on May 30, 2009 12:55:07 GMT -6
O-line- Roman Legion D-line- Viking Raiders  |
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Post by schultbear74 on May 30, 2009 13:08:47 GMT -6
O-Line Big Smart kids who know what to do with their hands and feet.
D-Line mobile, agile and hostile
If you must play both ways, make sure that you have a smart OL next to a slobbering DL on offense so that he can tell him who to block.
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Post by coachbdud on May 30, 2009 13:14:48 GMT -6
to me Dl is more of a bad as$ kid. tough, usually not as bright
my OL are usually smarter and a little more mobile. But thats just because of our offensive style we reach and pull a ton so i need athleticism on my OL. Our DL just have to plug up gaps and we 2 gap a lot so i usually put my big boys on the DL
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Post by schultbear74 on May 30, 2009 13:18:39 GMT -6
I used to do that coach bud, but now I do it only in goalline situations. I need speed and if they can't move fast, they usually don't make it to the field.
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Post by coachbdud on May 30, 2009 13:23:42 GMT -6
I used to do that coach bud, but now I do it only in goalline situations. I need speed and if they can't move fast, they usually don't make it to the field. let me add to that post, they are big boys but last season and this upcoming season i am actually very blessed. I have some big boys but they are not slugs they are all very good athletes period, let alone for being big. DL was by far the strength of our team last year and should be again. Last year my 2 DTs were our leading tacklers on the season. To me it is more important that the studs play on the defensive line than the offensive line |
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Post by warriorhog51 on May 30, 2009 20:50:42 GMT -6
I disagree with the several statements that DL don't have to be the brightest kids. I think it takes a smarter kid to be able to make adjustments on the run and react to what is going on in front of him. I think its harder to teach a kid to do that and do it well in my opinion.
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Post by los on May 30, 2009 21:58:46 GMT -6
Ha Ha....good posts all.....I always went at it from this perspective Auburn.....O-line = best blockers(not just initial hitters but guys who take satisfaction in finishing the job and will stay with a block).....Can remember the plays and blocking assignments.......D-line = best tacklers........but maybe not so good at remembering plays and blocking assignments......and may not have the patience or whatever, to sustain a block for very long, but like to hit, run and tackle someone. What you often find with younger guys Auburn, like jr. high and lower levels.....is they "all" want to play D-line or defense in general, but if you ask "OK guys, whoever wants to be an offensive lineman, take one step forward"....you might get a few prospects by default, as everyone quickly takes a step back, lol.....in other words, if your not a fully 2 platoon program = make then earn a spot on defense by being a good blocker on offense.
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Post by coachbdud on May 30, 2009 23:53:03 GMT -6
I disagree with the several statements that DL don't have to be the brightest kids. I think it takes a smarter kid to be able to make adjustments on the run and react to what is going on in front of him. I think its harder to teach a kid to do that and do it well in my opinion. the reason i say DL requires less smarts is because if a kid is a stud you can just teach him where to lign up and the kid can dominate that gap. I will be doing that with a kid who doesnt even speak english this year. Im teaching him where to line up and to go forward, that is all that is required to play DT for us |
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Post by coachguy83 on May 30, 2009 23:58:21 GMT -6
I really disagree that you put the smart kids on the OL. I played at a small schools and played on both sides of the ball, but I really prefered DL. I graduated HS with high honors and have a 3.2 GPA in college. I think you can make up for like of ability with intelligence and will. However smart kids do make good OL especially at center, but as long as you have a couple of smart ones and a good QB they can direct traffic.
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Post by hoosier on May 31, 2009 9:05:41 GMT -6
ive been told "if you're big you will play on the line. and whoever can run the fastest out of that bunch will play defense"
i believe the closer you line up to the ball, the smarter you need to be. weather thats O or D
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Post by phantom on May 31, 2009 11:24:57 GMT -6
I really disagree that you put the smart kids on the OL. I played at a small schools and played on both sides of the ball, but I really prefered DL. I graduated HS with high honors and have a 3.2 GPA in college. I think you can make up for like of ability with intelligence and will. However smart kids do make good OL especially at center, but as long as you have a couple of smart ones and a good QB they can direct traffic. I don't think that you HAVE to be dumb to play DL, just that you CAN be dumb. |
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Post by coachorr on May 31, 2009 11:32:54 GMT -6
In addition to what Tiger46 is saying, I think Dline, you have to want the football and you have to be a little crazy, also; Oline, you have to be a quiet kind of nasty. Hard to explain in words but where you and your buddies are going to kick someone's butt in the context of the game (so as not to get a penalty), then maybe help the guy up, walk back to the huddle and pound knuckles without saying a word.
The best kind of dline guys are the ones who are like Tazmanian Devil and can do it for five to seven seconds on every play and not stop till the echo of the whistle.
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Post by alneufeld on May 31, 2009 11:39:11 GMT -6
O-line- Roman Legion D-line- Viking Raiders Love that- Ha! As a line coach, that is a perfect comparison! |
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Post by touchdownmaker on May 31, 2009 19:18:54 GMT -6
this depends....at my school, you are an olineman if you are smart enough to learn blocking rules and plays but too slow to play wing, fb or qb. thats about it. we use defense as a reward so if you do bother to learn the oline stuff we will let you play some defense. we dont do the " i just play defense" crud that kids try to pull. thats just laziness.
ultimately, we like smart kids and mean kids, tough kids who are coachable. our school is so small that most kids play both ways.
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Post by bccarnes on Jun 1, 2009 11:13:30 GMT -6
DL--> Nuckin Futs! Crazy and intense.
OL--> Under control, smart.
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Post by coach4life on Jun 1, 2009 12:37:49 GMT -6
Defense = run around, beat on the other guys, create havoc, blow things up
Offense = execute to a plan against a bunch of guys who are running around beating on you and trying to blow your stuff up
You better be able to process intelligently on offense, not so much a requirement for defense. That doesn't mean defense is dumb, it just has a simpler objective to get the job done.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Jun 6, 2009 1:27:00 GMT -6
What attributes make a "big boy" an OL or DL. I know some can be either, but what makes one better suited to do one or the other? Um... ask them which one they like playing more? Or start with them playing both sides in practice and let them sort themselves out over a couple of weeks? Some players will just naturally gravitate towards the fundamentals of one side or the other-- I was a decent DL in H.S., but I was a truly pitiful OL. Beyond that, it really has more to do with what you're running on both sides of the ball. If you're a team that lines up in the I and mauls people between the tackles, and who runs a Split 4 or 3-3 stack on defense, try the bigger guys on offense. If you're a Wing-T offense that's always pulling and trapping with your OL and you run an Okie 5-2 or Under front on defense, you might want to do the reverse, but these are just gross generalizations. I'm not big on the idea that "If he can run, put him on defense. If he can't, he's on offense." A big athletic OL who can move around and block in space can be involved in making a lot more plays than a stud DL and you get the added benefit of calling plays especially for him to wreck a defense. Then again, there was that story about the old coach (forget which one) who was asked why he only recruited DL but not OL: "If I bring him in and he's can't crack the starting lineup on defense, we can try him on offense. If I recruit offensive linemen and they don't work out, all I have are a bunch of fat equipment managers!" |
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Post by coachjd on Jun 6, 2009 6:16:04 GMT -6
our best OL over the years have been kids who have played with a chip on their shoulder. had a little nasty in them. May not have been a good enough athlete to play on the DL, but they just got after it on the OL.
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