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Post by canesfan on Feb 11, 2019 11:57:33 GMT -6
He mentioned recruiting kids to want to come out as well. That’s why my mind went to what it did. As a kid in the stands I’m thinking that they might feel it’s pretty cool to be one of the players on our Friday nights. If it ever got to the point where it was a distraction for us we’d stop immediately. So most of what we could think of on our 3 hour drive home was stuff to add to the atmosphere and get more fans to games or at least get the fans there more engaged in the game. We aren't sure that makes a huge difference to the kids on the field but one of my favorite memories of playing HS football was a playoff game where the stands were packed and people were standing around the entire field. The sound of the crowd definitely made the game feel special and memorable so I guess those things do have an effect on the players. I think it helps kids more than you’d think. Our upset over the district favorite was a fun night. Would have been fun either way but our crowd atmosphere allowed our kids to really have fun.
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Post by canesfan on Feb 11, 2019 11:55:25 GMT -6
I like this idea... and think it definitely has some merit to it... Anyone do give aways??? We do giveaways. Contests. Anything and everything. If we think it could make money for our team and not negatively impact our program we do it. This year we’ll even give away shirts in between quarter/timeouts.
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Post by canesfan on Feb 10, 2019 20:13:24 GMT -6
Players don’t focus on the external. Heck they aren’t even present for a lot of it. Not like they watched the concert. But it adds to the atmosphere. I don't disagree at all. I just interpreted the OP question differently, and didn't consider the things you mentioned as things making the home game "special for the players" for the very reason you mentioned. He mentioned recruiting kids to want to come out as well. That’s why my mind went to what it did. As a kid in the stands I’m thinking that they might feel it’s pretty cool to be one of the players on our Friday nights. If it ever got to the point where it was a distraction for us we’d stop immediately.
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Post by canesfan on Feb 10, 2019 19:54:27 GMT -6
The OP asked how to make it special for the players, you specifically leave the players out of it completely. I don't think those go together. I agree. If you work very hard to create an environment where the players are focused on other things, you will probably not have the on field success to make things enjoyable. Players don’t focus on the external. Heck they aren’t even present for a lot of it. Not like they watched the concert. But it adds to the atmosphere.
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Post by canesfan on Feb 10, 2019 19:51:36 GMT -6
The OP asked how to make it special for the players, you specifically leave the players out of it completely. I don't think those go together. It’s all for the players. Big crowd, big stage. Wasn’t a distraction, For our kids. If you’re recruiting kids in the hallways, the bigger the games seem to the community the bigger they may seem to the kids. The biggest thing you can do for the players is win. One of the next biggest is make people come watch them win and get excited. It’s all related: win, get people excited, more money for the program, nicer things, etc. circle of life. I would guess our kids enjoy running out to a hyped crowd. I don’t think any human on earth is more distracted than a high school boy. That’s what they’re used to. Chaos.
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Post by canesfan on Feb 10, 2019 18:18:18 GMT -6
Our offensive staff just got done with the Minneapolis Glazier Clinic and one of the coaches attended a session about improving participation in your football program. An idea was to really make home games special and something the kids will remember. We aren't exactly sure how to do this so I thought I would ask if anyone does anything unique to make home games special for the players? The weather didn’t really cooperate with us but this year we: -Had politicians set up during our rivalry game. Had a pregame concert, giveaways, contests. It was election year and that was our home opener. Wild atmosphere to say the least, even during our 1 1/2 hour lightning delay -Introduced a different team every game. While our players don’t get anything out of it, more people come and it seems like a college game. -Cool intro. We started the Virginia Tech Enter Sandman this year and had our pep section, band and cheerleaders jumping and going nuts. -We had a senior as the third quarter hype man leading a Maroon/White chant. -We had trick or treat at our last home game. Weather is usually bad and thought that might help. Maybe it did. Basically, we look at it as the cooler the atmosphere, the more kids will enjoy it. Football should be “the event” for a small town. Our community is a basketball community with only recent, relative football success. But if you build it, it will get better. Going to go even bigger next year. I would caution two things: -Don’t give control of your home games up. If the coaches aren’t interested in changing the game day atmosphere, don’t do it or you’ll end up with stuff you hate. -Do not make it a distraction for the players. We don’t even tell them the events we have going on.
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Post by canesfan on Jan 29, 2019 22:14:42 GMT -6
Can you score like that? I’m a defensive guy but not being able to score points offensively sucks! Yep, we led the state in scoring using this same 'draft' system. Great! We’d be in a world of hurt!
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Post by canesfan on Jan 29, 2019 19:41:59 GMT -6
We don't two-platoon, but even at the small school I'm at now with a roster of 44 kids, I would give this serious consideration: 1.) Choose your QB 2.) Best 11 left, are primary defensive guys (defensive starters, offensive depth) 3.) Next 11, are primary offensive guys (offensive starters, defensive depth) We use a "series chart" to control subs. So Series 1 offense has different guys than Series 2, which has different guys than Series 3, etc. We have 4 series total. So for this, I would give "depth" guys a max of two series on their "secondary" side of the ball. So now that stud 3-tech that you'd like to play on the OL isn't just trapped into being only a 3-tech. Players still practice both sides, but know that they primarily only play one side of the ball. I've gone with a modified version of this. Here is my checklist. 1. Choose your QB, 1 OL, 1 Skill 2. Best 11 for defense 3. Fill out the offense Can you score like that? I’m a defensive guy but not being able to score points offensively sucks!
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Post by canesfan on Jan 29, 2019 7:42:16 GMT -6
Yeah the guys that irk me on there are the ones who spew out NFL and NCAA playbooks and video. I understand you've done tons of research and are good with video editing but have you ever called that stuff in a real game? Some of that stuff isn't even useful at the high school level. Again as someone said earlier it's an attention getter. You want to impress me show me what you did to win the district championship not how Saban runs his dime blitzes. Duece Agreed.
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Post by canesfan on Jan 29, 2019 7:36:45 GMT -6
We could possibly two platoon this year but I’d rather have multiple personnel packages and get good at a few things. I know we could two platoon everywhere but DB but I’d rather have a lot of depth and try to wear people down that way.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 30, 2018 0:16:38 GMT -6
We just split practice. One day may have more offense then the next more defense but I along with our kids prefer split practice over emphasizing one side of the ball each day.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 30, 2018 0:14:34 GMT -6
Make sure you communicate it early. Maybe even individually. You don’t want guys to feel unwanted or non-essential. If you’re making a staff change or moving people around it’s easier to let them know why.
Do you have anyone that is going to be disappointed to coach defense only? Some guys will work both sides of the ball but prefer one side.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 24, 2018 23:12:25 GMT -6
Renovate and move it somewhere in the locker room. Please don’t just take it down. In all seriousness that could start the beginning of the end of your tenure.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 24, 2018 18:24:19 GMT -6
In season is easy. You miss we don’t play you. Not a punishment but you’re not ready to play if you miss. If it’s one day and kids still dress. As long as it’s not chronic we may spot play them or play them on special teams.
Out of season I think you focus on the kids you have and let them put pressure on the kids who aren’t there. If a kid isn’t working in the offseason they’ll likely get passed up.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 24, 2018 17:30:51 GMT -6
Be yourself.
Also, don’t talk about how you don’t have dudes that play for you. You do or in all likelihood you wouldn’t be speaking. Maybe they’re not as good as some of your opponents but saying you don’t have talent while speaking at a clinic is a pet peeve of mine. A) we know it isn’t true, b) can come off as very egotistical....ie we don’t have talent but we do what we do so we’ll we win anyway. Having talent doesn’t make you any less of a coach. I’ve seen bad coaches with good talent, and great coaches with poor talent.
I like specifics and stuff everyone can use. How do you teach what you teach?
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Post by canesfan on Dec 13, 2018 20:15:36 GMT -6
One kid was really honest at my last school. Said he wanted to have a good senior season and was tired of losing. The school he went to went 1-9 that year. TBH I still kind of felt sorry for him.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 10, 2018 9:46:16 GMT -6
I encourage our kids to use the 7 pad full girdles. Even have knee pads in them. No one forgets their pads that way!
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Post by canesfan on Nov 29, 2018 21:14:25 GMT -6
Varsity we play who deserves to play and who will help us win. If that means we play 20 kids that’s what it means. If someone has a problem with how much they don’t play they need to earn varsity time in practice or in their limited game reps. I’m not playing any kid because I want them all to get in as far as varsity goes. JV everyone we take will play.
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Post by canesfan on Nov 27, 2018 11:47:46 GMT -6
Seems like too much to me. We don’t do a Friday walkthrough. I like to get to the stadium at 5:30. Warmup at 6:25. I will make any coaching points I have before the game.
Really tried as the year went on to keep kids loose and keep football enjoyable. But Friday kids know the gameplan.
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Post by canesfan on Nov 21, 2018 22:08:22 GMT -6
Our kids go celebrate. Have never had to tell them to. They act like crazy people. Our 5’5” 115 lbs freshman slot got hammered by our 6’3 freshman X receiver this year after a TD doing a chest bump.
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Post by canesfan on Nov 14, 2018 8:23:04 GMT -6
We almost kicked a FG on 1st and Goal. Everyone thought we scored so we sent in the XP team. Seemed like the side just signaled TD. Had to call a timeout. It was embarrassing but at least we caught it in time.
Stuff happens. You get caught up in the game and you go nuts a little bit.
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Post by canesfan on Nov 13, 2018 14:49:05 GMT -6
Belfry would be good there. They have a large roster but they’ve built that over decades. Every coach would benefit from time spent with coach Haywood. How about the single A powers that are close to there? Pikeville, Paintsville, Hazard? I would say Paintsville without a doubt, for all the KY coaches, Joe Chrico has done an amazing job. Losing to Jenkins with Kash Daniels in 2013, to what they have now is amazing. Best quick building job in a very long time. Are you in KY coach?
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Post by canesfan on Nov 13, 2018 9:14:23 GMT -6
My wife is from Belfry lol. We are down there off and on all year. Belfry would be good there. They have a large roster but they’ve built that over decades. Every coach would benefit from time spent with coach Haywood. How about the single A powers that are close to there? Pikeville, Paintsville, Hazard?
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Post by canesfan on Nov 4, 2018 16:14:57 GMT -6
We were in a 3 way tie so all 10 of our games mattered. Normally 5 matter for playoffs.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 30, 2018 19:07:02 GMT -6
Our program pays. Our district has no clue how much it costs to run a program. We basically get zero funding other than our utilities. We pay for our own buses, equipment, reconditioning, weight room equipment, etc. Basically every thing we have we buy.
We buy all of the weight room stuff too. Every program gets to use it because of title IX.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 24, 2018 7:37:17 GMT -6
I like to have our kids at other events. Never thought about a band competition but wouldn’t be opposed to it. It’s not about me, I don’t want/need that pat on the back. I’m not going anywhere of my own free will. I could generally care less what people think other than my family, players, employer/employees and coaches. It’s about our school. As the HC and a proud alumni, I love our school. I want all kids in our school to love our school. I want all kids to want to support each other. It’s about them. Their experiences. Our community is small and poor, but it’s full of great people. I want our kids to be proud of where their from not because I’ll get a pat on the back, but because I believe in our school and community.
If a coach doesn’t want to do that cool. But the kids at our school love football, it is the least that our kids could do to at least try and show love to the rest of the school.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 15, 2018 11:10:46 GMT -6
We are 2-4 going to play a 5-2 team. They are ranked 11 in the state. However, we have a 200 pound running back and a 250 pound fullback and run double tight SBV where our line and tight ends average 260. Their biggest kid is 216 Pounds per the roster. They have beaten people by slinging the ball around, and took a team that we beat very lightly last week, and gave up two early scores. My question is, has anyone ever been in this type of situation and came out on the winning side? What did you do to take advantage of the size? No but we’ve had it done to us. These teams have often played field position and used all four downs to move the chains until they got the lead. A lot different thinking of getting 2.5 ypp instead of 3.5. They’ve taken the air out of the ball and every mistake we made was magnified because of the time of possession. This year we had it happen to us, and we had the ball for 3 minutes in the first half. They weren’t bigger but that’s the strategy the used. We had two quick turnovers on our first two possessions and were down 19-0 at halftime. One of the best called games I’ve seen in a while. We almost came back and won but man they did an excellent job. They also tried to create extra possessions where they could with kicks.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 9, 2018 11:08:18 GMT -6
HC and DC here. I can see why many coaches would want to coach offense, because the offense is always going to be the one criticized when things go bad. However, you have to coach to your identity. I’m a defensive guy, I could coordinate offense but my time is better served preparing our defense and helping our offense get the best looks, identify coverage, etc. I feel that I could coach any position adequately and would coach any of them if need be. However, I’m fortunate that I don’t need to do that with our staff. As time goes by and the makeup of the staff changes that might change but for now, me moving to call the offense would not be the best use of the coaching ability we have on our staff.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 3, 2018 17:20:45 GMT -6
We seriously had something like this happen in a JV game. Our kid and the other kid got tossed. I couldn’t believe it. It was the 2nd play the kid had been in the game. Opening play of 2nd half.
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Post by canesfan on Sept 25, 2018 12:01:38 GMT -6
As long as kids aren’t missing practice it’s not that big of a distraction. Let them have fun. Ours don’t walk the court out because it’s at halftime, but other than that our boys do everything. The distraction thing at homecoming is overrated. High school boys are always distracted anyway. Maybe they’ll play better.
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