els36
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Post by els36 on Dec 29, 2018 13:41:07 GMT -6
I am moving staff around. Going into 3rd year and I have moved (not officially) all previous staff to defensive side, and new staff (staff from my previous stop) I brought in this past season are on offense. Mainly because my previoua staff understands the style of offense I want and they know how to teach it. Anyone have problems with organizing in such a way. All coaches get along, but didnt know if anyone tries this and ended up with a divison and an "us" vs "them" mentality. Looking for any tips. Thanks!
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Post by wolverine55 on Dec 29, 2018 14:45:22 GMT -6
I've never been a part of something like this, so take this for what it's worth. But, my initial reaction is that someone, perhaps more than one guy, will notice the divide if they haven't already. I would simply at a meeting this offseason acknowledge it and tell them exactly what you posted here about the thinking with the offensive guys.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Dec 29, 2018 17:11:09 GMT -6
Perception is reality?
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els36
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Post by els36 on Dec 29, 2018 19:10:52 GMT -6
Yes, my first meeting I was going to call out the elephant in the room and explain why. My intention is to do what's best for the program and I feel this will be the best move.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 29, 2018 19:52:05 GMT -6
Up to 2018 I had the staff divided by O/D. But there was no JV/varsity staff, everyone but a couple were on the sidelines for both games. In practice, when the JV were on offense the varsity was working defense, and then vice versa. I wanted the coaches to be the best they could be at their position and to pass that knowledge to all the players in the program. It worked well. Until coaches missed practices and then I got holes in what was going on in practices. After a couple of years the division between offense and defense staffs got larger and larger.
In 2018 I went JV/varsity and that was almost worse. The JV staff was good, but that was because they had 2 new coaches and he HC was the same guy. Varsity, the O/D split remained. So when it was varsity offense time, the D coaches melted away. Same when it was defense time. I told them at the start of the year that they would be coaching both O & D, but things didn't go that way. I wasn't able to get over the split and that caused problems.
I prefer the O/D model, but the division has to be managed/controlled/killed early. It will be there, but it can't be allowed to become a distraction.
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Post by canesfan on Dec 30, 2018 0:14:34 GMT -6
Make sure you communicate it early. Maybe even individually. You don’t want guys to feel unwanted or non-essential. If you’re making a staff change or moving people around it’s easier to let them know why.
Do you have anyone that is going to be disappointed to coach defense only? Some guys will work both sides of the ball but prefer one side.
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smcauliffe54
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Post by smcauliffe54 on Dec 31, 2018 8:24:28 GMT -6
We have every coach responsible for a position and then an assistant to the opposite position on the other side of the ball. For example, I might be the oline coach but when we go defense i assist the defensive line coach. Same with wr/db rb/lb. really helped us gel as a coaching staff and got coaches familiar with what both sides of the ball are doing. also if a coach is missing that day or late or whatever the assistant coach can fill in and run drills and the kids wont think its substitute teacher day and goof off.
If there is noticeable split going into practice or season i think you have to address it as often as needed. give the other coaches responsibility for helping out the other side. like running scout o/d. being the guy that blows the play dead. moves the football from one hash to the other.
that said some guys can work well split off and as long their isnt animosity or talking bad about the other side of the ball it should be fine. ie we should have this kid playing this spot. we should run this play. that was a bad call.
cant have kids hearing any of that.
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