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Post by aceback76 on Oct 17, 2018 19:56:29 GMT -6
OK, but PM me!!!
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Post by aceback76 on Oct 9, 2018 7:16:59 GMT -6
I'm sure that this topic has been covered numerous times on here, but what do you do to create physicality and toughness in your program? We are pretty soft right now. At a school that i have been at for a number of years. Most of the time as DC, the past year and a half as HC. We use to be the toughest and most physical team around. We have been very successful and with state championships, runners ups, semifinals, etc. The past 3-4 years a softness has crept in to the program that we can not seem to eradicate. We have tried hitting more in practice, practicing "live" more than we normally do, tackling drills, sled work, etc. Nothing seems to work. Is it just a matter of a kid being aggressive and ours are not? Just looking for tips to turn this tide and get back to being a more physical team. I still believe that the most physical team usually wins a football game even in the era of the spread, RPO's, and pass happy offenses. Thank you in advance! We BEGIN in the out-of-season with Mat Drill "Combatives" (which every SEC team does). Cannot detail typing, but would talk to anyone about these who wishes to phone. ONE of Lou Holtz' books (I believe it was "THE GRASS IS GREENER") has a great section devoted to them, & you can get it thru Inter-library loan.
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Post by aceback76 on Oct 4, 2018 9:41:37 GMT -6
We have a Legion baseball program around here that is absolutely toxic. I'm not over-exaggerating when I say it's the worst-run sports program I have ever seen. The kids get into legal problems (MIPs, cell phone chit) during the summer (we can't do anything about that), failed classes in the spring, and raised hell in school and still played for this team. There are absolutely no consequences for the kids' behavior when it comes to this baseball team and it shows in the attitude of the kids that play football. They run fall baseball, push specialization and the school sports programs are paying for it across the board. We're having success in football this year and I've heard several kids talking about ditching baseball to either participate in track or lift weights for football. I've kept my trap shut when I hear them talk but at I am at the point where I am wondering if I should interject and give the kids a little push. I could do so tactfully; "If you don't play baseball, come on out for track and throw for us!" or "If you don't play baseball or do track, you'll have more time to hit the weights for football." I've never been this way when it comes to other sports; I've always kept quiet and let the chips fall where they may. But, there has been no push by the parents or the community to clean up this baseball program and it's hurting all of our school sports. Thoughts? All of this must be hashed out (& agreed upon) before the season begins. The football team represents the SCHOOL (not the "Legion"), & if a player(s) won't commit to being with the football team all the way thru, we don't let the be a team member! No if's, ands, or buts!!!
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Post by aceback76 on Sept 14, 2018 21:25:11 GMT -6
Private school. Haven't won more then 5 games in a season since the 60s. Year 1:4-5 Year 2:1-9 This season: 0-4 We (I), have support of the alumni, parents,the booster club, the AD, the teachers...everyone but the school president. His thought, according to my AD is "we will just make a huge offer to someone and they will come in and make us a winner." My AD's response, "Who do you think is going to come in here?" -Side note, I make less money in my stipend then the assistant junior high volleyball coach from the public middle school. In the 3 years, I've had 4 AD's (current one is awesome). One assistant whos been with me since day one, other then that at least one new member a year (Year 2 only had 2 assistants, this season one assistant was re-assigned to soccer after last week). We've historically been the worst program in the state since the 80s. We have no off-season program, no summer program. Our strongest kid is a 150 pound junior, who happens to live in town, so I worked with all summer. The school finally added 1 block of weight training for the first time ever (putting us only 45 years behind everyone else). My AD has said the president is looking to make a change(same President whos been here two years and looking for a new gig himself), but he's (AD) my biggest fan (I've heard the support of all the veteran teachers too). In the 3 years since my staff and I came in; 5 kids Academic All-State 1 game missed to grades/behavior 3 Kids playing in college. Before us, helmets were seldom reconditioned, no Hudl, no clinics, no attempts at 7 on 7 (we were able to kind of piece some together), our shoulder pads were all from the 90s, other then what I was able to get from USA football. Now, to be fair, our AD is fantastic and went to bat, saying this wasn't safe and got us $$$ to replace these helmets with brand new ones, as well as used shoulder pads from this decade. Its taken a lot of cleaning up, we ran 8 kids off this year because we make them come to practice, practice when they are here, and not be a donkey in the classroom. However the 26 kids we have would run through a wall for us. Now next season, there will be about 75% roster turnover, same as it is every year. I mean, what else can I do here? Wait for the axe to drop and go somewhere else who will appreciate the effort? Current family situation makes moving very hard. Its hard because this is my program, these are my players. I want to win, who doesnt? But call me ignorant or arrogant, no one would care about this place and program more then me. Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never--in nothing, great or small, large or petty--never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense.
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Post by aceback76 on Sept 13, 2018 8:20:10 GMT -6
Could I get a copy of that chart as well, please - yes, but contact me!!!
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 29, 2018 7:33:14 GMT -6
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 29, 2018 7:32:41 GMT -6
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 17, 2018 6:44:20 GMT -6
Don’t know if this is a vent or a “story of the present season” First year head coach. Took over at a tough place. Didn’t think it was going to be easy. The consensus insight I’ve been given is that the seniors will be the hardest to sell to. Holy chit that wasn’t a joke. Our attendance has been atrocious. Our parents, especially of the seniors, are enablers. If I had a nickle for every “little Johnny is sick he can’t come to practice” text I got at the 11th hour I’d be able to pay off my mortgage. Unfortunately we’re small and I can’t just tell kids to take a hike. It’s going to be a challenge to field two levels. At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re only one level by season’s end. Our first game is tomorrow. Our team captain, right guard and mike backer texted me today after school that he was quitting. Literally one of maybe 3 seniors I thought was reliable. Something about not feeling appreciated and blah blah but he wants to be our biggest fan. WTF? I’m going to call him and I think I can get him back but it’s still just a pain in the ass I have to do it. In the last month: -Another senior thought he didn’t have to go to practice because they had summer ASB stuff. When I told him he can do all the ASB stuff he wanted 22 other hours of the day, he went to the ASB teacher, who then went to the AD complaining “football is not in season but he’s making kids practice”. AD took my side, but ever since kid has just been a stick in the mud and won’t practice hard. Literally went from projected starter to a kid I don’t even want to put in a JV game. -Two parents, of seniors, gave me the third degree about our dead period rules. They didn’t think it was legal to have kids lift. I pointed out that we can lift just not practice. They didn’t believe me and went to our governing body and tried to say I was running illegal practices, only to find out I was perfectly within the rules. God forbid they listen to a guy who does this for a living. Their kids are also cheerleaders (no that’s not a typo) who wanted to go to a cheer camp. -A parent, of a senior, at a meeting continually told me my practice schedule doesn’t make sense because it wasn’t what the previous coach did. He literally yelled it out half a dozen times. I explained it in perfect English why I’m doing it the way I am every time. Luckily I kept my cool. Kid won’t practice hard and told me he doesn’t think he should have to be in 6th period athletics. Luckily his counselor thought otherwise. Shocking, he’s another stick in the mud at practice. Unfortunately he has to go in for about 15-20 snaps a game. There are no other options. -One of the returning players, the starting FS and a potential college football player, might not be eligible because his parents forgot to resubmit his annual intradistrict transfer papers and was enrolled at another school for a day. I’ll likely find out tomorrow. He didn’t show back up until Wednesday. Knowing our parents, they’ve already informed the governing body. -Now that school has started I can’t get all the kids into the athletic period. Credit recovery and other BS reasons and I don’t believe the counselors are supporting athletics as much as they could. That means I’m going to have to start practice later, which means more kids missing All this apprehension and reservation and we haven’t played a game. Seniors quitting, not buying in, coming up with excuse after excuse to miss. The silver lining is our underclassmen are pretty bought in, except they’re tiny. Literally 8 juniors and 8 sophomores, one of whom is out for the year. Our freshman class is somewhat deep (16) and talented but they’re raw. None of them could hold a candle in a varsity game. It just seems like everyday the last few weeks it’s just been one ridiculous thing after another after another. I don’t know what I’ve done wrong. I’ve done what I felt is best at maintaining relationships throughout since I’ve been hired, sold a good message “we not me”, and done what I feel is fair. I took this job knowing it wasn’t great but wow this is some movie type chit I’m dealing with. Haven’t even played a game and on my ride home today I was thinking about what I’m going to say in my resignation speech. Sorry for the vent guys. I hope you guys all have great seasons "TOO SOON TO QUIT"!
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 29, 2018 16:36:14 GMT -6
STRONGLY suggest this little book ($10) on Amazon:
Real Women Know Football 1st Edition
by Peggy K. English (Author), Beth McCash (Author), Nancy Mortensen (Author)
Peggy English's husband, my old frield Wally English, has coached in College & the NFL.
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 22, 2018 20:32:08 GMT -6
Dan is a longtime friend, who visited me here on at least 2 occasions. Last I heard he was living in Indianapolis, but otherwise, I do not have his CURRENT contact info. His material is readily available on Coaches Choice, Amazon, & Ebay. PS: Should you reach him, give him my regards! Coach Coverdale passed it along to me. I’ll let him know. Do you still travel for clinics to speak coach? It would depend on when & where!!! I have Coaches come HERE often (ask Dan Robinson about HIS visit)!
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 22, 2018 8:24:14 GMT -6
Does anyone know contact info for Dan Robinson? He is the coauthor of Andrew Coverdale books and he has a number of great Cosches Choice DVDs. If anyone has contact info if they could PM them to me. Dan is a longtime friend, who visited me here on at least 2 occasions. Last I heard he was living in Indianapolis, but otherwise, I do not have his CURRENT contact info. His material is readily available on Coaches Choice, Amazon, & Ebay. PS: Should you reach him, give him my regards!
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 17, 2018 10:18:21 GMT -6
Darryl Rogers, who was HC at Fresno State, San Jose State, Michigan State, Arizona State, and Detroit Lions recently passed away.
He was an innovator of the passing game in the '70s including beating Bo-Michigan in the Big House in '78 and tying Wolverines for Big Ten championship.
I was an assistant coach at Grand Valley State at the time.
The next spring ('79) we went to East Lansing to learn more about his passing game.
He was gracious and accommodating, including letting us on field during practice.
One day during a scrimmage he is talking to us (letting his coaches coach while he observed).
QB throws a pass which is intercepted by a walk-on DB, who begins running all over the field until finally being forced out of bounds.
Rogers puts his Coke down, adjusts his cap, and walks over to where the play ended while we watched.
When he comes back, he said he told the DB he made a great play, but wondered why he didn't verbally make the call for an interception which was "Snatch!"
According to Rogers, the walk-on said all he could think of was "Puzzy!" and knew that wasn't right. I used to talk Pass Offense with him, and his QB Coach (Bob Baker). Here are some notes I still have from them: MICHIGAN ST. 1978 1. To find out what coverage is – split X/Z to their max. 2. When the QB hits L.O.S. A) Look at S/S B) LB C) W/S 3. Only one coach talks to QB. 4. Meet 12-15 hours a week. 5. Record coverages of plays during game. 6. Coach EYES of QB 7. Blitz Drill 15 minutes every day. ROUTES: A) Quicks = 5 yds. B) Intermediate = 10-14 yds. C) Deep = 18 yds. D) NOTE: Use horizontal & vertical stretches. E) 3 S/S Zone = attack S/S F) 3 Deep/5 Under = attack W/S G) 2 Deep/Man Under = cross/pick/isolate H) 2 Deep/5 Under Zone = split, seams
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Post by aceback76 on Jul 6, 2018 6:36:55 GMT -6
Need some thoughts: Long story shortened...I am taking over at a small school in eastern Kansas. We had a tornado come through the middle of town last week and it finished up by hitting out football field and high school. Stands (basically) damaged beyond repair, our locker and equipment rooms damaged beyond repair, scoreboard destroyed, and most damning, game and practice fields littered with debris. Clean up has begun and new equipment is being ordered. Here's the problem: we are going to have to go on the road for all our games this fall. My first thought was I feel terrible for the seniors who won't have any home games. However, there is nothing I can do about it, so how do I make the best of a bad situation? "Road Warrior" mentality!
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Post by aceback76 on Jun 29, 2018 20:36:26 GMT -6
I really like BOTH of them, & regret you have to make a choice!!!
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Post by aceback76 on Jun 19, 2018 12:42:45 GMT -6
This is just in OUR CASE: We LOVE it for our BEST offense vs. our BEST defense, but we CONTROL the clock. For 3 step passes, the buzzer goes off in 1.8. For 5 step passes, the buzzer goes off in 2.3. THIS WAY = we have to "THROW RECEIVERS OPEN", rather than WAITING for them to come open! NOTE: We send 4 rushers (less than half-speed) who do not attempt to tackle passer of knock the ball down, BUT, it helps the QB get used to looking THRU the rush. ************************************** "ADVANCED 7 vs. 7" (in our PRACTICE). NOTE: We are NOT an "Air Raid" team, but this is something the Air Raid people took from LaVell Edwards at BYU (Mumme & Leach read the "B.L.S" on many of their passes). It has REALLY HELPED us: CONDUCTING THE DRILL: The defense calls a coverage to line up in and a coverage to move to once the ball is snapped (I.E. "line up in Cover 1, move to Cover 2). The QB then calls out the alignment he sees on his Pre-Snap look - "looks like Cover 1". He then takes the snap and as soon as he recognizes the coverage being PLAYED, calls it out during the drop - "Cover 2". This teaches all your skill people not only how to recognize the coverage but many of the TECHNIQUES involved in each alignment. Using what I have described above, "7 on 7" is a vital part of our "Large Group" teaching. I learned HOW to Coach QB's from Dan Henning & Don Breaux, thus, they are the only people I let COACH my QB's besides myself (at Dan's "Professional Specialist Camp", that I worked at). We don't "send our QB's off" to other Camps, etc. (unless I know WHO is coaching them, & HOW they teach QBing). We take our own players to "7 on 7" competition, etc. Strongly suggest video of it for study (looking for "correctable mistakes").
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Post by aceback76 on Jun 19, 2018 9:42:16 GMT -6
This is just in OUR CASE: We LOVE it for our BEST offense vs. our BEST defense. They COMPETE this way:
1. Offense gets 1 point per completion.
2. Defense gets 1 point for an in-completion.
3. Defense gets 3 points for an interception.
We CONTROL the clock: For 3 step passes, the buzzer goes off in 1.8. For 5 step passes, the buzzer goes off in 2.3. THIS WAY = we have to "THROW RECEIVERS OPEN", rather than WAITING for them to come open!
NOTE: We send 4 rushers (less than half-speed) who do not attempt to tackle passer of knock the ball down, BUT, it helps the QB get used to looking THRU the rush.
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"ADVANCED 7 vs. 7" (in our PRACTICE). NOTE: We are NOT an "Air Raid" team, but this is something the Air Raid people took from LaVell Edwards at BYU (Mumme & Leach read the "B.L.S" on many of their passes). It has REALLY HELPED us:
CONDUCTING THE DRILL: The defense calls a coverage to line up in and a coverage to move to once the ball is snapped (I.E. "line up in Cover 1, move to Cover 2). The QB then calls out the alignment he sees on his Pre-Snap look - "looks like Cover 1". He then takes the snap and as soon as he recognizes the coverage being PLAYED, calls it out during the drop - "Cover 2". This teaches all your skill people not only how to recognize the coverage but many of the TECHNIQUES involved in each alignment.
Using what I have described above, "7 on 7" is a vital part of our "Large Group" teaching.
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Post by aceback76 on Jun 9, 2018 9:11:39 GMT -6
So does anybody have a place to get play sheet holders? The one I had got cracked last winter so need a new one. The one I have is called 3rd hand by borgunlimited but they don't seem to be in business anymore. We find that LAMINATING ours is best (for US)!
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Post by aceback76 on May 28, 2018 8:38:58 GMT -6
Has anyone ever watched film, seen poor effort or players doing things contrary to coaching and made an announcement that all starting spots were back up for grabs that week - and then made those changes? This could be heat of the moment or pre-determined. Man, they said we better, accentuate the positive Eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mister In-Between
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Post by aceback76 on May 28, 2018 8:19:18 GMT -6
Has anyone ever watched film, seen poor effort or players doing things contrary to coaching and made an announcement that all starting spots were back up for grabs that week - and then made those changes? This could be heat of the moment or pre-determined. We announce all starting spots are open ALL of the time if someone steps up & beats someone else OUT (WIN OR LOSE)!!! We don't WAIT for a "bad effort" to make that known.
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Post by aceback76 on May 19, 2018 9:10:01 GMT -6
Searched and couldn't find anything on this, so here goes: So I'm currently our Track HC, JV FB HC, would like to be FB HC one day in the future. I need help staying organized and on top of the details, it's a longtime weakness of mine. What systems do you have for staying organized? Do you keep a planner? How do you make sure that details don't fall through the cracks? I'm great at big picture stuff and I'm pretty mindful of a majority of the things that matter, but there's plenty of room for growth here. Have a plan for EVERYTHING, & we always keep a year around calendar ("checklist" on paper)! PM if you wish details!
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Post by aceback76 on May 9, 2018 7:50:01 GMT -6
I've ran into this a few times and it happened tonight at practice (I'm assistant coaching for a women's adult team; they play in the spring/summer). We were introducing a new formation today, and the HC (also the OC) kept changing the name/alignment of our flanker, despite telling her to align in the same spot every time. He was using terms that contradicted her alignment (it's compartmentalized play calling, and the flanker alignment number kept changing, but he kept insisting they line up in the same spot). The big one; we were running a new play today as well designed to hit our left C-gap, which is our "7" hole; both in his playbook, and it's been how we've attacked that gap all season. The opposite side is the "6" hole, where we had already ran the play to the right. HOWEVER, he introduced the play as a "5" hole run, which is the left B-gap. We had also just ran the B-gap version the other way, which is to our "4" hole. This is how we've done it all season, and it's what his playbook shows. Since he introduced it as a "5" hole run, we ran it to that gap (I was filling in as the TB since our TB wasn't there today). He told us then we had to attack "this gap," which he called the "5" hole, which was our "7" hole all season. The entire team and other coaches just kind of stared at him dumbfounded (myself included). Our QB and myself just assumed "OK, it's a 7-hole run," aloud/together. He then got visibly angry and yelled at everyone there saying it was a "5" hole play, and to just take it there. I even double checked the playbook again when I got home. Long story short: He installed a play and called it X, so we ran it as X. He then said we had to run it as Y, but got angry when we corrected it and said it's a "Y" play. This isn't the first time this has happened, and I've seen this happen a lot from him this season. He doesn't accept the corrections, and throughout the season, I've seen him use his own terms differently (then switch back to the original definitions soon after, often within a matter of seconds between each other), and didn't take corrections from the coaches, or even his players that have ran his system for years. Have you had issues with this in the past? Do you struggle with this in your own system? I could just be salty here, but I get really irritated when coaches consistently tongue-tie their own terminology. If it were to happen, I'd want to make sure I'm being corrected. Yes! Just (in private,& in a agreeable way) try to get him to write up his nomenclature, & stress everybody stick ti it.
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 24, 2018 9:45:59 GMT -6
Heard a great speaker talking about not starting practice with stretch. It’s slow paced, boring and redundant. They stretch about 20 minutes into practice but try to start with something more engaging. I thought it was a great idea. By the time the regular season gets started, practice can feel too familiar and scripted. Any ideas for what to start practice with? On air, up tempo offense? One on ones? We don't stretch. After jogging 1/4 mile to the practice field, we tell them that if they still do not feel "warmed up", do 10 Jumping Jacks!!!! Our individual position coaches begin with drills applicable to their positions that can be construed as "warming up", but NOT stretching! Before the 2nd half our kids feel 10 Jumping Jacks are enough. If they want to take a turn on the stationary bike, they may.
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 24, 2018 5:59:14 GMT -6
Coach FUNDAMENTALS to everybody - but get the following READY first: 1. QB = 3 2. RB = 3 3. WR = 3 4. H/Y = 3 5. G's = 3 6. T's = 3 t. CTR = 2 THOSE 20 players will get the vast majority of emphasis SCHEMATICALLY. I have never been anywhere with that solid of depth but it definitely looks like a good plan. Usually if we have have had an abundance in anyone of those areas, we had also had a deficiency somewhere else and had to reallocate players to fill the voids. We have never (with about 2 exceptions when we had 15-17 D-1 prospects) had that many OUTSTANDING players, but we always had to get that many ready to PLAY!
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 24, 2018 4:40:52 GMT -6
If I have guys that are neck and neck for the starting job, I don't usually give any one guy the lionshare of the reps. I want fresh players and motivated players. If it is a close battle and your number two hardly gets to play, I don't think it will stay a close battle for long. Some kids in that situation will use it as motivation, but a lot of kids will also slow down or shut down. If I have kids that are good enough to compete for a job, then I like to put them on a rotation at practice. I let them rotate themselves until there's a reason for me to make a change (coach up something specific, lack of effort, etc.). This shows a lot about kids because there are guys that will try to dodge reps and there are guys that will try to steal reps. Everyone gets their shot though things usually stay pretty productive. I coach LBs and Oline so I have never had to deal with 5+ guys for one actual position. That's crazy, my suggestion would be do your best to give them all a shot and once you figure out the best try to fit them into other positions where they can contribute. The offensive line is almost always looking for quality contributers so you could most kids that can compete at tight end can fit in well. Coach FUNDAMENTALS to everybody - but get the following READY first: 1. QB = 3 2. RB = 3 3. WR = 3 4. H/Y = 3 5. G's = 3 6. T's = 3 t. CTR = 2 THOSE 20 players will get the vast majority of emphasis SCHEMATICALLY.
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 17, 2018 7:55:57 GMT -6
I like the "RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES".
Richard Wagner - Ride Of The Valkyries - YouTube
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 12, 2018 10:56:52 GMT -6
Would anyone care to share some non negotiable rules that your team has? Looking for a few good ones to borrow. Thanks in advance. Be on time! Give 100%!
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 11, 2018 14:23:37 GMT -6
Dan Gonzalez & I were both offered positions on John Mc Gregor's staff, in McMahon's 2001 attempt to set up the league in 2001. The team never got off the ground. It was to be in Fresno. They were paying assistants $99,000 (which would double IF you won the Championship).
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 9, 2018 11:50:06 GMT -6
Why hell no (YOU ndon't KNOW "right from wrong")! Can't you ever stop trying to pick ARGUMENTS with your nonsensical BS??? I will go back to IGNORING your posts! Read back through the previous posts in this thread.
You will not find one reference in three pages to a "trainer" in the Sports Medicine sense as you posted.
OP #1 = As a coaching community, I believe something can be done. I don’t know what it’s like in your parts but here in Southern California there is an epidemic of con artists disguised as trainers, Read more: coachhuey.com/thread/81121/fixing-problem-phony-trainers-position?page=3#ixzz5CCNdcR00BLB = what are you putting on your FROOT LOOPS? FAREWELL (for good)!
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 9, 2018 11:36:51 GMT -6
Can't you ever admit you're wrong, especially when it's so obvious to anyone reading this thread? Why hell no (YOU don't KNOW "right from wrong")! Can't YOU ever stop trying to pick ARGUMENTS with your nonsensical BS??? I will go back to IGNORING your posts!
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Post by aceback76 on Apr 9, 2018 11:16:43 GMT -6
Use only CERTIFIED TRAINERS (& check out their certification). They must work WITH Sports Medicine Doctor Groups. Treatments are in the facilities of the Sports Medicine Doctors.l The ones we have used are: 1. VCU Health's Sports Medicine Clinic treats all patients with the same quality care we provide university and professional athletes. Our vast array of athletic injury care and specialties include: Sports medicine, hip and knee arthroscopy Anatomic single and double-bundle ACL reconstructions Meniscus repair and transplantation Complex knee and shoulder ligament reconstruction Ankle arthroscopy Rotator cuff repairs Cartilage restoration Compartment syndrome evaluations Arthroscopic shoulder stabilization We also offer on-site physical therapy. 2. HCA Virginia Sports Medicine 5.0 Rating Sports medicine clinic in Chesterfield County, Virginia That is not the kind of "trainer" being discussed in this thread.
The term is being used to refer to individuals who sell themselves to kids as expert 1-on-1 instructors for skill-technique development, not injury treatment-prevention.
You're "off" again! No one with brains would even USE those "individuals"! Investigate further (the OP referred to "TRAINERS", & we use CERTIFIED TRAINERS).
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