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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 20, 2018 15:28:36 GMT -6
He’s right.
The people creating the CTE hysteria have a definite agenda. And it’s not safety. If they did, football would not be the first sport they’d go after.
What Fedora said won’t sit well with people but I commend him for being real. The country could use more people like him and less ivory tower yahoos.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 20, 2018 15:22:21 GMT -6
Road games we leave as soon as possible. Let’s get back to our house and say what we feel is necessary, get changed, etc.
Home games we generally let kids loiter around for 20 minutes or so and then we meet back to talk in the team room. I tell the coaches to avoid talking to parents as much as possible the next 24 hours. I don’t consider myself an a hole but I just don’t trust parents nor do I want anyone to have to deal with them when their emotions are running high right after a game.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 16, 2018 17:03:43 GMT -6
Disclaimer: I have nothing against Don Brown
Haven’t heard it much on social media lately but there was a period of time when seemingly every DC at glazier or a Twitter was a wannabe Don Brown. “Defense has to be the dudes of the team”, “You can’t play this side of be ball if you’re not a dude”, “I tell the head coach give me 11 dudes and the rest of team can go play offense or ST”.
Like wow, getting good athletes is a real novel idea. It’s even more amazing that a guy who coaches at a school with an entire campus of 4 and 5 star athletes said it.
And then to make it worse, there would be a clip of Brown saying a generic coachspeak quote and it would get retweeted a billion times. If the HC of Bumblescum Nowhere State said it, nobody would think about it for a second.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 14, 2018 23:30:03 GMT -6
That should be a deal breaker. It’s your team it should be your culture and the weight room is where culture is harvested.
Other deal breakers for me that I’ve heard other coaches go through:
-Admin not moving with a sense of urgency to the HC a set of keys. He was hired to be the HC in February and didn’t get keys until July. -Giving another teacher, who’s not a coach, the 6th period football class. -Counselors who won’t put your players into the 6th period class because they need to “broaden their horizons in other electives” -This has happened to me: Admin telling you you can’t use certain facilities because another sport reserved them. Not a big deal, right? Then when you show up when the other sport is supposed to be practicing so you can talk with the coach (who apparently doesn’t check their email) they’re not even there. When you inform admin, they give you the run around and tell you it’s not their problem because they “put in the proper paperwork”
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 13, 2018 19:40:51 GMT -6
I know in California you can get paid by the state to “assist” you in raising a kid with a disability.
Our DC is a SPED teacher and always has good stories of parents who don’t have jobs but show up to IEP meetings in Jordan’s and designer watches.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 13, 2018 17:29:55 GMT -6
6th period walk through; intro formations; lots of alignment and assignment periods. Then we try to go balls to the wall as much as we can at practice. The goal is to be at the point we have to taper off and get off our feet the last half of Wednesday.
Obviously this changes as the year goes on but generally speaking this is it.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 12, 2018 12:00:17 GMT -6
I empathize.
It’s an epidemic here in Southern California. Kids want instant gratification, parents aren’t willing to teach their kids the lesson of honoring their commitments and to make it worse other coaches are willing to bend whatever rules and standards there are if they think it’s going to help them win.
It’s a real dark cloud over modern parents that unfortunately not enough people in our profession are doing something to fix. There’s going to be a generation going into college and the workforce thinking it’s okay to quit or chicken out when the going gets tough.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 29, 2018 11:34:57 GMT -6
I prefer Joe Daniel’s material. He explains it very well. X and O labs is good too. But because their material is based on articles written by outside coaches, it might be harder to get follow up answers if you contact them, whereas Joe Daniel is really good about getting back to you if you have questions.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 26, 2018 23:51:48 GMT -6
Hate to sound cheesy but HS football is one place I’ve consistently gone to where nobody gives a F about race. That’s what I love about it.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 26, 2018 11:27:19 GMT -6
www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/06/15/arizona-high-school-football-passing-tournaments-out-control/692400002/Kudos to some coaches in Arizona for calling like it is with 7-7. "When they win, they lose their freaking minds," Mesa Desert Ridge coach Jeremy Hathcock said. "They trash talk like they're in the NFL. It's hilarious. It's unruly." "It is a great opportunity for coaches to coach. That is the concept of 7-on-7. It's called practice. It has now turned into parents believing that their athlete will be recruited, because of 7-on-7s. This is evident with all the club teams. Any high school coach that has coached at the FBS or FCS level will tell you that they cannot attend any of the 7s competitions, unless on their own campus, as well as they do not find kids to recruit based off of 7-on-7s. "Yet parents are being told the opposite because certain 'gurus' sell it that way for their own reasons." "In the past week I saw the final eight teams in a certain 7-on-7 tournament. Of those eight, six of them either run a wing T offense or an offense that consists primarily of two running backs and one tight end 80 percent of the time. These teams are out there running spread offenses in 7-on-7s, but during the season they will be 75 percent run at minimum and play with more than two receivers probably 20 percent of the time." -Corbin Smith, McClintock Hathcock believes that "club culture" creeping into football is causing more transfers. "You're seeing the middle-of-the-road kids, who are really good high school kids (leaving)," Hathcock said. "You never lost them before. I'm losing them left and right now, because they're teaming up with other teams' kids and being talked up. They're not even Division I kids. That's what I find the most confounding." The competition at some 7-on-7 events is causing Hathcock to re-evaluate their purpose. "I went to one 7-on-7 tournament and I'm never going to go back again," he said. "I got cussed out more by parents. You're not seeing real defenses. It had nothing to do with reality. The officials can't control everything. A couple of fights broke out with us and other teams. I said, 'I'm not doing this again.' '' I know Coach Hathcock pretty well and agree with his assessment of 7 on 7 and where it has gone. I have always run the drop back and roll out portion of our offense and played our base coverages. We played Desert Ridge this season in 7 on 7 and he definitely ran his system (wing T boots, waggles & play action). We played another team that was two man with the safety walked down helping to press cover our #1 receiver and throwing passes in areas that would normally be covered by our NT. I talked to the coach at halftime and he assured me that was their normal defense and normal passing game. I got a little pissed and went doubles, put our fastest kid at RB and just ran him down the middle of the field one on one with their MLB for a few easy scores to win the game. Afterwards I was disgusted with myself for losing my cool and falling into the 7 on 7 Trap. Swore I’d quit 7 on 7 entirely before I did it again. It’s become ridiculous. I even heard one of our parents complaining that it wasn’t fair because they had 7 defenders and we were only sending out 5 receivers. The insinuation was that I was an idiot and should get a couple more guys out there. Is that story about the Arcadia coach true? If so, he’s got my vote for douche of the year.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 26, 2018 0:02:56 GMT -6
A few other things are just as guilty as well
-7 vs 7 tournaments -Concussion hysteria -Insane parents -Cell phone/social media controlling lives
It’s all kind of a perfect storm and as a result you’re seeing declining numbers. Fortunately, football is the best team sport EVER invented and those that reap its benefits are bound to pay their experience forward, at least that’s why I became a coach. Eventually this cycle of BS will blow over and it’ll become as popular as it once was. The game is too resilient to die. Us as coaches just need to coach it smart and make sure we don’t allow politicians like the loons here in California to compromise it.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 21, 2018 22:03:06 GMT -6
This happened today:
We made the mistake of entering a 7-7 tournament. We told the kids this is just another opportunity to get better and if we don’t win it’s not going to make or break our season, let alone our summer. Our goal is just to have minimal mental mistakes and be competitive. If we win we win.
It was double elimination in pool play. Lose two you’re out of the championship bracket. We lost the first game to a really improving nearby program with 17 starters returning. The second game we lost to a program similar to ours. Hung with them but had some bad breaks but they were probably better prepped than us. Oh well. We had some ups and downs but nothing to hang our heads about. Of course one of our half-literate helicopter parents, who has a remarkably loud voice, was telling our QB who to throw to every play, and every time we were on defense all he’d say was “they’re running a pick” or “that’s time! QB is sacked”. I’m pretty sure he said they ran an illegal pick when they threw all verts a couple times. The coach of the host school asked us to have him be more respectful and when I talked to him he complied. Of course somehow someway he ended up parked near me and caught me out by my car and was singing the blues about us being eliminated and how it’s such a waste and there’s no point in coming back for consolation games tomorrow. All over a passing league tournament.
I kind of feel bad for the guy’s kid. He obviously lives vicariously through him. He’s a senior QB who will probably be 3rd string and every time I see him he looks like he’d rather be doing anything else than be involved with football.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 20, 2018 7:08:05 GMT -6
Maybe I’m an idiot but that’s what track should be IMO. I wouldn’t feel slighted.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 16, 2018 12:32:37 GMT -6
7-7 is inherently not a bad thing. If you manage it right, and actually run a real part of your offense and coach the ish out of your normal coverages, you can definitely get better.
Unfortunately between the gurus and clubs acting like agents for their players, college coaches like Jimbo Fisher dignifying them and a few HS coaches turning it into its own season, it’s just too much of a ish show. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze with these tournaments. We just throw with a couple neighboring schools with coaches we know are going to run their actual offense and defense and not let their kids act like a bunch of clowns every time they catch a deep pass.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 15, 2018 20:13:28 GMT -6
www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/06/15/arizona-high-school-football-passing-tournaments-out-control/692400002/Kudos to some coaches in Arizona for calling like it is with 7-7. "When they win, they lose their freaking minds," Mesa Desert Ridge coach Jeremy Hathcock said. "They trash talk like they're in the NFL. It's hilarious. It's unruly." "It is a great opportunity for coaches to coach. That is the concept of 7-on-7. It's called practice. It has now turned into parents believing that their athlete will be recruited, because of 7-on-7s. This is evident with all the club teams. Any high school coach that has coached at the FBS or FCS level will tell you that they cannot attend any of the 7s competitions, unless on their own campus, as well as they do not find kids to recruit based off of 7-on-7s. "Yet parents are being told the opposite because certain 'gurus' sell it that way for their own reasons." "In the past week I saw the final eight teams in a certain 7-on-7 tournament. Of those eight, six of them either run a wing T offense or an offense that consists primarily of two running backs and one tight end 80 percent of the time. These teams are out there running spread offenses in 7-on-7s, but during the season they will be 75 percent run at minimum and play with more than two receivers probably 20 percent of the time." -Corbin Smith, McClintock Hathcock believes that "club culture" creeping into football is causing more transfers. "You're seeing the middle-of-the-road kids, who are really good high school kids (leaving)," Hathcock said. "You never lost them before. I'm losing them left and right now, because they're teaming up with other teams' kids and being talked up. They're not even Division I kids. That's what I find the most confounding." The competition at some 7-on-7 events is causing Hathcock to re-evaluate their purpose. "I went to one 7-on-7 tournament and I'm never going to go back again," he said. "I got cussed out more by parents. You're not seeing real defenses. It had nothing to do with reality. The officials can't control everything. A couple of fights broke out with us and other teams. I said, 'I'm not doing this again.' ''
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 15, 2018 8:41:18 GMT -6
That’s pretty much a weekly thing in California.
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Initials
Jun 13, 2018 18:00:52 GMT -6
via mobile
Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 13, 2018 18:00:52 GMT -6
Maybe somebody can create a google drive of initials and abbreviations and share with everybody?
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 4, 2018 20:49:36 GMT -6
If you ever want to lose brain cells, read some of the social media comments from SF supporters
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jun 2, 2018 14:01:58 GMT -6
www.google.com/amp/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/bs-va-sp-miaa-st-frances-folo-0601-story,amp.html There are a lot of vocal coaches on Twitter about this but haven’t talked about it much here. As much as I want to win as a coach, I think it’s ridiculous to see schools and coaches compromise so much just to have a good football team. The guy is literally paying to win football games. Unfortunately it feels like more and more programs are working harder to get good players than they are at building their players.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 31, 2018 18:43:13 GMT -6
I don’t know much about the incoming 8th grader rule, but for a kid to transfer to a school where his 7-7 coach is at is considered undue influence.
Been on both ends.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 31, 2018 9:44:47 GMT -6
From my experience...
Youth coaches love hearing themselves talk and think they're geniuses. (Yes, I'm aware a lot of coaches at other levels aren't much different.) The ones I've interacted with would feel slighted if I offered them a playbook or drill manual without asking. The HC I work for, whom they all love, turns the tables and goes out of his way to ask for their advice and coaching points, knowing damn well he doesn't need any of it from most of them and lets them ramble into his ear for hours. As a result, they think he's a great guy who's achieved success in part because of their advice and always have a good word about him when parents ask where their kids should go to HS.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 27, 2018 16:49:03 GMT -6
I’m not joking - one of these shady 7-7 coaches, who unfortunately has notoriety among the parents of the kids I coach, is offering his services on how to “successfully attend college camp”. Includes how to execute drills confidently and show good body language. I swear people like this are the same people who try to sell ice to Eskimos. I used to work for a guy who spent a lot of time doing the same thing. But then again, how different is it than college guys working with a trainer to get ready for the combine? I've known a few of those combine gurus and that sounds a lot like what they say. I agree. They’re no different. High school kids wanting a scholarships is just a much bigger sea to fish than college kids wanting to do well at the NFL combine.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 27, 2018 15:52:05 GMT -6
I’m not joking - one of these shady 7-7 coaches, who unfortunately has notoriety among the parents of the kids I coach, is offering his services on how to “successfully attend college camp”. Includes how to execute drills confidently and show good body language.
I swear people like this are the same people who try to sell ice to Eskimos.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 25, 2018 14:42:31 GMT -6
Joe Daniel's is my favorite. Lots of good details and coaching points.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 25, 2018 12:20:24 GMT -6
I know I'm a little late to do it this season, but next season I am thinking about dividing the program into random groups and creating a competition where they try to earn "points". The winner gets shirts and BBQ (possible other incentives). I want to make an emphasis on how important "little" things are and that's how points are awarded.
Means by which groups can earn points -Attendance/tardiness to weight lifting and class -Grades -First in attendance lines for weight lifting -Improvement of core lifts and speed -Negative points for unexcused absences from school and lifting
I'm looking for other ways in which the kids and groups can earn or lose points. Any ideas?
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 23, 2018 21:48:52 GMT -6
Like many things in public education, it’s in place to satisfy politicians and angry parents who have no idea what it’s like to teach or coach. At the end of the day the only winners are the companies that host these “courses” and the losers are the coaches who used some of the precious finite time they have to learn something they already knew.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 23, 2018 8:36:19 GMT -6
Does the site let you watch multiple videos at once? You sir are my hero! This ain't my first rodeo!
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 22, 2018 21:35:36 GMT -6
I've heard some dumb things but mostly from new and young coaches, and I wasn't much different at that age so I can't mention them legitimately. This guy, however, is actually older and more "experienced" than me: We had an OC who thought he should've been the DC and every Friday upstairs he would let me know. There was one game at the end of the season where he explained that we should've been in a 50 cover 3 against a certain team and drew it up. I countered by drawing up the fact we were in a 4-2-5, 3 robber with the Sam in a 9. It was literally the same exact defense, the only difference being the title of the positions guys were in. Same jobs, same alignment, etc. He said it was stupid that we put an end inside the tight end, as opposed to a "tackle" because the end was going to get crushed. LOL the biggest guy we had on that team might have been 225 lbs soaking wet. Sorry a-hole, I'll go talk to the GM and see if we can draft a war daddy defensive tackle. The playoff game that year was against a team that ran power read. He couldn't grasp the concept that the pulling guard was looping to the backer; he insisted that guard was supposed to kick out the end, he just kept messing up. Of course Friday rolls around and he's got a billion and a half ideas on how to play it, and then when I tried to explain why it's flawed because that guard is not supposed to kick out the end, he said "well that's not a real play or concept. We better bash these guys because they're running a fake offense" I know a guy who GA'd for Spike Dykes at Texas Tech... One time Coach Dykes was drawing an offensive play up on the board. When he drew the defense, an assistant tried to correct him that he had somebody misplaced, a Sam, Will, Strong safety, I'm not quite sure. Spike Dykes responded to the assistant "it's just a f---ing letter, are certain letters unf---ing blockable" In retrospect I don’t think the guy is dumb. I think he was purposely trying to be argumentative because he felt he could do a better job. He just made himself sound very dumb trying to assert it.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 22, 2018 19:57:39 GMT -6
Does the site let you watch multiple videos at once?
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 22, 2018 13:55:51 GMT -6
I've heard some dumb things but mostly from new and young coaches, and I wasn't much different at that age so I can't mention them legitimately.
This guy, however, is actually older and more "experienced" than me:
We had an OC who thought he should've been the DC and every Friday upstairs he would let me know. There was one game at the end of the season where he explained that we should've been in a 50 cover 3 against a certain team and drew it up. I countered by drawing up the fact we were in a 4-2-5, 3 robber with the Sam in a 9. It was literally the same exact defense, the only difference being the title of the positions guys were in. Same jobs, same alignment, etc. He said it was stupid that we put an end inside the tight end, as opposed to a "tackle" because the end was going to get crushed. LOL the biggest guy we had on that team might have been 225 lbs soaking wet. Sorry a-hole, I'll go talk to the GM and see if we can draft a war daddy defensive tackle.
The playoff game that year was against a team that ran power read. He couldn't grasp the concept that the pulling guard was looping to the backer; he insisted that guard was supposed to kick out the end, he just kept messing up. Of course Friday rolls around and he's got a billion and a half ideas on how to play it, and then when I tried to explain why it's flawed because that guard is not supposed to kick out the end, he said "well that's not a real play or concept. We better bash these guys because they're running a fake offense"
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