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Post by wingtol on May 22, 2018 19:11:29 GMT -6
Just got an email from district I coach in with a link to set up my account for state mandated online training. 8 hours of videos due on June 8th. 20 years experience and I get to enjoy such topics as “Manging the angry parent”. “ Diversity awareness: staff to student” “Sensitivity awareness”
Can’t wait to dig in to these thrilling videos (don’t worry I’m sure they will play in the background as I do more important stuff).
Amazing the crap we have to do now just to coach. Think this BS cost the district like 200.00 a coach too.
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Post by bigmoot on May 22, 2018 19:41:43 GMT -6
We just had something similar only it wouldn't play if minimized and had quizzes every chapter or so.
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Post by wingtol on May 22, 2018 19:43:54 GMT -6
Hopefully it will play with mute on during school...
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Post by Defcord on May 22, 2018 19:52:58 GMT -6
We have a laptop and a desk top both at school so I just put it on my laptop and set it up in the back and randomly stop by to see when it needs attention.
Would be nice if they would let you take quiz first and if you passed it then would be good to go. There’s no integrity to the product the way it is except as a cya.
This stuff is like using homemade biscuits to make pigs in a blanket.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 22, 2018 19:57:39 GMT -6
Does the site let you watch multiple videos at once?
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Post by wingtol on May 23, 2018 6:59:24 GMT -6
Does the site let you watch multiple videos at once? You sir are my hero!
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 23, 2018 8:36:19 GMT -6
Does the site let you watch multiple videos at once? You sir are my hero! This ain't my first rodeo!
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Post by coachks on May 23, 2018 8:43:13 GMT -6
Would be nice if they would let you take quiz first and if you passed it then would be good to go. That's the best part. Whatever NFHS concussion video is mandatory every year. You take a prequiz (10 questions maybe?). I get 10/10 right every year. Have to take the course (30 minutes or so), then TAKE THE EXACT SAME QUIZ and get a 10/10. Why? What is the purpose of this? It's the same process with Cardiac Arrest and maybe first aid, accept those are not required every year. Take a quiz. Get every question right. Still have to sit through the course. Take the same quiz. Brilliant.
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Post by fshamrock on May 23, 2018 8:54:55 GMT -6
I'm telling you..the best racket to get into is providing "training" for schools so that they can cover their behinds from litigation.....you can charge whatever and provide nothing...how I'm missing out on this I don't know
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Post by WingTheT on May 23, 2018 9:11:51 GMT -6
You should see if you can drag the thing on the video bar to the very end. I've "heard from a friend" that you can do this for a lot of the county mandated and school videos we have to watch...but you never heard it from me, ok?
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Post by seabass on May 23, 2018 10:17:08 GMT -6
Would be nice if they would let you take quiz first and if you passed it then would be good to go. That's the best part. Whatever NFHS concussion video is mandatory every year. You take a prequiz (10 questions maybe?). I get 10/10 right every year. Have to take the course (30 minutes or so), then TAKE THE EXACT SAME QUIZ and get a 10/10. Why? What is the purpose of this? It's the same process with Cardiac Arrest and maybe first aid, accept those are not required every year. Take a quiz. Get every question right. Still have to sit through the course. Take the same quiz. Brilliant. It's all about CYA these days. It doesn't matter what industry you are in...it's happening everywhere. I have to take continuing education courses every year....been taking the same/similar courses for 20 years. I can pass them in my sleep.
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Post by fkaboneyard on May 23, 2018 10:21:42 GMT -6
Dual monitors are your friend.
I hate those things.
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Post by fantom on May 23, 2018 15:32:24 GMT -6
Would be nice if they would let you take quiz first and if you passed it then would be good to go. That's the best part. Whatever NFHS concussion video is mandatory every year. You take a prequiz (10 questions maybe?). I get 10/10 right every year. Have to take the course (30 minutes or so), then TAKE THE EXACT SAME QUIZ and get a 10/10. Why? What is the purpose of this? It's the same process with Cardiac Arrest and maybe first aid, accept those are not required every year. Take a quiz. Get every question right. Still have to sit through the course. Take the same quiz. Brilliant. Concussions are: (A) Good (B) Bad
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Post by blb on May 23, 2018 16:03:57 GMT -6
The last two years I coached was required to do on-line training.
After each part of each section - Concussions, Heat Awareness, Rules changes, etc. - there was a multiple choice quiz.
If you did not get all of the answers correct in any quiz you had to go back to the beginning of the entire section - not just part where your answer was incorrect.
The first year one of the quizzes had no answers that matched the information given in the video. Very ambiguous if not downright misleading. Almost as if intentional.
I tried all of them for a few hours.
I called the state rep responsible for Football and told him my dilemma and the problem with the quiz.
He gave me a clue, but not the answer.
Now I had been a HC for 30 years at this time and the question was about what to do if a team did not have state-approved ball for a playoff game. Not concussions, not rules changes-interpretations.
Turns out there were TWO correct answers - neither of which matched the wording in the video.
I finally figured it out, got my certification.
Next year - same presentation (slides, voice over) on playoff footballs (less than half the teams in our state even qualify for playoffs), same quiz.
People, supposedly professionals, get paid to do this stuff.
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Post by silkyice on May 23, 2018 18:48:14 GMT -6
All of these are honestly scams. People are making money off this.
Create video course on something. Scare everyone. Lobby the legislature and/or athletic association. People making you take these tests don’t have to take them. Then charge schools and/or associations for your services.
Unless you are an idiot, concussions, first aid, CPR are pretty straight forward concepts. We of course now also have to take sportsmanship, heads up stuff, dehydration etc.
I could probably make a 10 minute video and 10 question quiz that would cover all of those topics at once.
Do that one time. Practice CPR on a dummy. 15 minutes once. Be done for life.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 23, 2018 21:48:52 GMT -6
Like many things in public education, it’s in place to satisfy politicians and angry parents who have no idea what it’s like to teach or coach. At the end of the day the only winners are the companies that host these “courses” and the losers are the coaches who used some of the precious finite time they have to learn something they already knew.
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Post by wingtol on May 24, 2018 7:30:53 GMT -6
Some of the "courses" I need to complete after 20 years of coaching to make sure I know the fundamentals of coaching...
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Post by Defcord on May 24, 2018 7:35:44 GMT -6
Some of the "courses" I need to complete after 20 years of coaching to make sure I know the fundamentals of coaching... That is an absurd amount of courses. Are you at a large or small school district? I am in my fourth district and it's tiny. Combined elementary-middle school, single high school and administrative building all on the same campus. I may never leave this place. When I was at all of the large districts the bureaucracy and BS were rampant. Here things are done in a much more common sensical way. I am not sure if it's because the district is small or if I am just lucky.
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Post by wingtol on May 24, 2018 7:41:22 GMT -6
Some of the "courses" I need to complete after 20 years of coaching to make sure I know the fundamentals of coaching... That is an absurd amount of courses. Are you at a large or small school district? I am in my fourth district and it's tiny. Combined elementary-middle school, single high school and administrative building all on the same campus. I may never leave this place. When I was at all of the large districts the bureaucracy and BS were rampant. Here things are done in a much more common sensical way. I am not sure if it's because the district is small or if I am just lucky. It's state mandated in PA now. Every coach in PA has to do this. And the first aid stuff that took all day to play in the background yesterday. Think it's over 8 hours of stuff. And oh yeah where I coach just sent it yesterday and the state deadline is June 8th....
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Post by eagles12 on May 25, 2018 9:26:56 GMT -6
Would be nice if they would let you take quiz first and if you passed it then would be good to go. That's the best part. Whatever NFHS concussion video is mandatory every year. You take a prequiz (10 questions maybe?). I get 10/10 right every year. Have to take the course (30 minutes or so), then TAKE THE EXACT SAME QUIZ and get a 10/10. Why? What is the purpose of this? It's the same process with Cardiac Arrest and maybe first aid, accept those are not required every year. Take a quiz. Get every question right. Still have to sit through the course. Take the same quiz. Brilliant. I always score 10/10 on the pre-test and then score 9/10 after watching the videos. Hahahaha.
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Post by newt21 on May 25, 2018 9:32:25 GMT -6
On a similar but different note, they took 5 practice days away from us before our first game. We're scheduled to play our first game on day 10 of the season (so only 9 practices). We're not allowed to start before a certain date and we're only allowed to have so many practices per week...but yet they send us to USA Heads Up training every summer to say "we're all about player safety".
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Post by silkyice on May 28, 2018 10:07:00 GMT -6
That's the best part. Whatever NFHS concussion video is mandatory every year. You take a prequiz (10 questions maybe?). I get 10/10 right every year. Have to take the course (30 minutes or so), then TAKE THE EXACT SAME QUIZ and get a 10/10. Why? What is the purpose of this? It's the same process with Cardiac Arrest and maybe first aid, accept those are not required every year. Take a quiz. Get every question right. Still have to sit through the course. Take the same quiz. Brilliant. I always score 10/10 on the pre-test and then score 9/10 after watching the videos. Hahahaha. Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
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Post by carookie on May 28, 2018 15:15:04 GMT -6
All of these are honestly scams. People are making money off this. Create video course on something. Scare everyone. Lobby the legislature and/or athletic association. People making you take these tests don’t have to take them. Then charge schools and/or associations for your services. Unless you are an idiot, concussions, first aid, CPR are pretty straight forward concepts. We of course now also have to take sportsmanship, heads up stuff, dehydration etc. I could probably make a 10 minute video and 10 question quiz that would cover all of those topics at once. Do that one time. Practice CPR on a dummy. 15 minutes once. Be done for life. I feel the same about most education classes to improve your abilities as a teacher....and if I were in a different profession I'd probably feel the same about most mid profession trainings there. But if the people who are in charge can't come up with new problems to treat (not cure but treat) then they are out of a job. Its like I always joke with my wife about carseats- there is always a new study about keeping kids in car seats longer as a matter of safety, and thus a new law mandating it. Then you look and see who did the original study....and its the carseat manufacturers.
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Post by silkyice on May 28, 2018 16:07:04 GMT -6
All of these are honestly scams. People are making money off this. Create video course on something. Scare everyone. Lobby the legislature and/or athletic association. People making you take these tests don’t have to take them. Then charge schools and/or associations for your services. Unless you are an idiot, concussions, first aid, CPR are pretty straight forward concepts. We of course now also have to take sportsmanship, heads up stuff, dehydration etc. I could probably make a 10 minute video and 10 question quiz that would cover all of those topics at once. Do that one time. Practice CPR on a dummy. 15 minutes once. Be done for life. I feel the same about most education classes to improve your abilities as a teacher....and if I were in a different profession I'd probably feel the same about most mid profession trainings there. But if the people who are in charge can't come up with new problems to treat (not cure but treat) then they are out of a job. Its like I always joke with my wife about carseats- there is always a new study about keeping kids in car seats longer as a matter of safety, and thus a new law mandating it. Then you look and see who did the original study....and its the carseat manufacturers. Exactly!!
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Post by fantom on May 28, 2018 16:15:52 GMT -6
A huge reason why I retired from the classroom and just retired from coaching was the chickenshyt.
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Post by jrk5150 on May 29, 2018 9:53:36 GMT -6
Follow the money - odds are that the trail begins and ends with the honorable profession of law (dripping sarcasm).
Attorneys are paid to put together these training programs that are necessary because...the same attorneys say they are. If they fixed the legal system/profession, a whole lot of bullsh*t we all deal with would go away.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 10:53:40 GMT -6
All of these are honestly scams. People are making money off this. Create video course on something. Scare everyone. Lobby the legislature and/or athletic association. People making you take these tests don’t have to take them. Then charge schools and/or associations for your services. Unless you are an idiot, concussions, first aid, CPR are pretty straight forward concepts. We of course now also have to take sportsmanship, heads up stuff, dehydration etc. I could probably make a 10 minute video and 10 question quiz that would cover all of those topics at once. Do that one time. Practice CPR on a dummy. 15 minutes once. Be done for life. I feel the same about most education classes to improve your abilities as a teacher....and if I were in a different profession I'd probably feel the same about most mid profession trainings there. But if the people who are in charge can't come up with new problems to treat (not cure but treat) then they are out of a job. Its like I always joke with my wife about carseats- there is always a new study about keeping kids in car seats longer as a matter of safety, and thus a new law mandating it. Then you look and see who did the original study....and its the carseat manufacturers. polls, opinions, studies, you name it can be made to say whatever fits whomever has an agenda to fill. Having said that, this is why certain angles, issues that creating rules changes, are at best criminal. You study the obvious, throw in a couple of others, and you can football should be...
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Post by Chris Clement on May 29, 2018 11:32:50 GMT -6
What??
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