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Post by coacht2210 on Jan 23, 2020 11:23:20 GMT -6
Some real good stuff here. It definitely depends on the person. I coach at a small program now and its a challenge to be real successful most years. BUT I love my staff, the kids show up (during the season) and work hard, the parents are supportive, and the AD supports me. While I am interested sometimes at coaching at a bigger program with more kids and more of a chance to be successful, I have no interest in going somewhere where I can't bring my staff, where kids don't show up and work, where the parents are combative or where the AD does not support me... And most of the jobs I see that are open seem to have some or all of those issues.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jul 4, 2019 8:39:29 GMT -6
Like to re-open this thread a few years later. I'm going to purchase a chute. Have the same question:
zone or trap? and 24 ft or 32 ft?
Appreciate any feedback from those who have bought or used these. I'm looking at Rogers but open to others. THanks
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Post by coacht2210 on Nov 27, 2017 12:48:22 GMT -6
I've had this happen to me a few times. If you played poorly the first time, I think it's easier. It is difficult to prepare for a team the second time around if you played well the first time (assuming that both teams have somewhat equal talent).
Two years ago I was an OC and we played pretty good offensively in our season finale (500+ yards, 42 points. 2 offensive fumbles and a KOR fumble lead to our demise). We drew the same team the next week in the playoffs.
I had a hard time gameplanning for them the second time. We came up with a few wrinkles but had a hard time "guessing" about what they would do different.
The way the game played out: They adjusted to some things we hit in the first game. We still moved the ball well but not enough to win.
The other team was physical upfront and we were able to run it fairly well the first time. Attacked them with formations into the boundary. Some unbalanced. Some 2 TE we hadn't shown. We had zero success with these the second time around. In hindsight I wished we didn't even try to use these sets again.
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Post by coacht2210 on Nov 8, 2017 10:10:46 GMT -6
This is sometimes a slippery slope. I still think a coach's loyalty must be to his team and not the other team's feelings. Playing 2 quarters for 2 straight weeks is not going to prepare you to face a playoff team. As coaches, we can slow the tempo, and control the game via playcalling but sometimes you need the kids to get reps to prepare them for NEXT week. Also it kinda stinks for seniors to be forced to sit out multiple second halves. Yes, but to counter that thought, chances are that in games like we are discussing (running clock after the half) are the starters really getting ANYTHING out of playing in terms of development or getting ready for the next week? I guess I wasnt talking about a completely lopsided games. There have been games where we may have been up 3 or 4 scores but the game is still competitive (they are getting stops and able to move the ball and such). In some of these instances I have thought it's better for my team's future to keep starters in and work on some things (such as inside run game or 2 tite sets) than it is to sub my JV in. Once there is nothing for the starters to gain, I would say it's pretty clear they should come out. 3 weeks ago we were on the other side of this to some extent. Game was competitive but we were down 35-14 with 2 minutes left. We just got the ball back and I had no intention of subbing my varsity offense. Those kids deserved to finish the game and it was the best interest of the team's future to have them try and execute a 2 minute scenario drive. The opposing team sent his JV in but upon seeing that we did not, he send his varsity back out. I was really glad he did this. We were able to move the ball and score on the last play which was a big boost for our team. I think they're coach got something out of it too as his kids were competing hard to the end as well. I think the "feel" of how competitive the game is can have more to do with it than the score sometimes.
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Post by coacht2210 on Nov 4, 2017 20:27:25 GMT -6
The tough part is when you have several blowout wins. You have to get your guys into game shape for the playoffs. The only way to do that is to play them. This is sometimes a slippery slope. I still think a coach's loyalty must be to his team and not the other team's feelings. Playing 2 quarters for 2 straight weeks is not going to prepare you to face a playoff team. As coaches, we can slow the tempo, and control the game via playcalling but sometimes you need the kids to get reps to prepare them for NEXT week. Also it kinda stinks for seniors to be forced to sit out multiple second halves.
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Post by coacht2210 on Nov 6, 2016 10:12:22 GMT -6
Pretty good thread. I came up as an OL coach then an OC. Then was a DC for a few years. Now back to OC, so I gotta good feel for the pro and cons of each.
The prep work is longer on Defense but it is more scientific. As guys mentioned already, teams aren't going to completely change their Offense. You have a good idea of what you are going to see on Friday.
On Offense, the prep work is more " guessing" how you think they will align. Every year, a few teams will run a completely different defense against us. Pre season prep is so important for this, Your "base" offense needs to be able to handle various looks a D gives you. Still it can be frustrating when you practiced all week vs a 4 4 cover 3 team because for 9 games that's all a team has done,.... Then in the playoff game they play you in 3 man all 2 hi. We still should be able to execute our offense that we run all season better than a team that has reaped a new scheme for a week but it really forced you to adjust in game and hopefully you have prepared your kids over the course of the season for the new look. With injuries on the OL, this can be brutal. When I have to move a tackle to center and play a rookie guard, I got a chance if we see the front I practiced all week. A new front in that scenario is brutal.. Defensively, offenses will come out with wrinkles but you just aren't gunna see the same types of changes that an offense can see.
I more comment. For young guys I really recommend coaching each side early in ur career. Coaching OL really helped me as a DC. And being a DC then going back to O, has given me a much different and better perspective on offense.
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Post by coacht2210 on Nov 11, 2015 9:01:35 GMT -6
Some good points. I agree a team's overall philosophy impacts this. A hurry spread team may be pretty dang good on defense BUT their stats may not be great because their offense scores so quickly and they are on the field so much.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jul 20, 2015 10:55:10 GMT -6
I hung some cheap whiteboards and we got a second projector. This became our second film room. It was great. Primarily an oline film and meeting room.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jan 16, 2015 9:47:05 GMT -6
I've played around with various different ways to get NFL coaches film on hudl and stuff from my DVR on hudl.
IMO, the easiest way is to play what you want on the TV or a PC, and record it with the hudl app on your IPAD. I've done it and yu really cannot tell the difference once its up on hudl
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Post by coacht2210 on Dec 16, 2014 14:22:51 GMT -6
Very hard to classify excused / unexcused. have seen parents lie on behalf of their kids, etc... we have a simple policy. if you are not at practice you dont start. the player who IS at practice and who takes the reps during the week deserves the opportunity to start.
more of a rewarding the players who do show up vs punishing those who dont
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Post by coacht2210 on Sept 21, 2014 21:06:52 GMT -6
Where I coached a few years ago, we started every Tuesday with Oklahomas. Right after stretch. 5 mins. We would stop around mid October when we started to shorten practices. Kids go live to the whistle. We'd line up barrels during stretch and run 4 or 5 at once. Coaches spread out.
We were a 2 platoon team and I liked this b/c it got the practice going. The ball carrier rarely gets tackled anyways. It ends up being more of a OL vs DL/ LB drill and it was competitive. I wish we still did this where I am now. We would also have 1 "live" period of 1st O vs 1st D every day (tues and wed). It was only 5 min and had a theme (situation generally). We would blow the whistle quick but it was live to the ground. I always felt these competitive periods made us better.
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Post by coacht2210 on May 10, 2014 10:47:32 GMT -6
Lots of good stuff in here....
My old school where I coached (and still teach at) had pretty low standards for eligibility. students must be passing 4 out of 7 classes. We are a city school and I really liked this low standard as it "allowed" more kids to participate in sports and other programs. The only kids that were ineligible were usually those who were absent a ton or literally did nothing in class.
As coaches / teachers we certainly did not make 4 D's and 3 F's the goal. We were always on kids for grades, ran study hall --in season AND out of season for kids with D's and F's. We werent successful with everyone but there were quite a few kids with all D's and F's as freshman that turned things around greatly by the time they were seniors. I DO NOT think this would have happened if these kids were "banned" from football. We saw a major shift in players grades the 5 years we were there.
I teach math and I enjoy it and try to get my kids to aswell. But to MANY kids, they will learn MORE from being part of a well-run football program than they will in algebra class. We can teach kids a lot more if they are part of our program than if they are not. To many kids, extra curricular activities are MORE beneficial than the regular classroom. We hold players to a MUCH higher standard than the our average student. Our "typical" student skates by with D's then goes on to a community college and they're usually done with that by Thanksgiving. They learn how to do the bare minimum to graduate. A good football program will teach its players a lot of values and skills that some kids will not learn at home or in class.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jul 19, 2013 6:59:05 GMT -6
tues / wed: half team has study hall the other half lift. thurs. full team study hall. its before practice and only lasts a half hour.
i like this for many reasons: * not all coaches teach in the high school, so we cant start practice right after school. this fills that time well. * study hall gave me (as a HC) a little time to unwind after school and get ready for practice. or if i needed more time to finish practice materials (scripts, cards etc) I'd have it. * I'd have assistants who are in the building run it and take attendance. this way we were not surprised on the field if someone wasnt there, we'd know in study hall or weights *as a teacher, i like that it gives my kids some time to get extra help / make-up quiz /etc (we'd let them do this in place of study hall)
kids also did pasta nite on thurs. as coaches we occasionally stopped by. wasnt really a "team dinner" but most kids did go. completely organized by players and parents.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jul 19, 2013 6:49:03 GMT -6
we have a rule that if you miss a practice for any reason, at a minimum you will not start the next game. I would apply this to missing a game as well. Excused / unexcused can get very hairy and this took that out of the equation.
I liked this rule because at the least, the player who was at practice all week will start the game and at least play the first few series. It was completely my digression after that.
I tried to make it clear we are not punishing players who are not here, we are rewarding those who are here.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jun 8, 2013 9:23:59 GMT -6
I think its good to have a few options available. I used to give out handouts (with formation and play diagrams, not an entire playbook). Then when Hudl came around I made playlists and shared them. The playlists were presentations with cutups mixed in. I found some kids would still ask for handouts tho. If a kid is asking, why not just give it to him on paper. Some kids still learn that way.
So going forward, I'll put most stuff up on Hudl, but I'll also have some handouts available for those who ask.
** On a sidenote, Hudl presentation mode is great BUT that are not yet viewable on smartphones. Most kids use smartphones to view Hudl so I will continue to make my own "presentations" and post them as playslists. Its really easy btw. you just import powerpoint slides into MovieMaker (or a comparable program) and then just drag and insert the video in. Clearly not as easy as a presentation but until Hudl makes em available on the phones thats what I'll do
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Post by coacht2210 on May 25, 2013 15:55:05 GMT -6
"walk-thru" days can be brutal sometimes... espeacially with young immature kids. Things that should go quick do not. But here's some of the better things we've done on these days..
When we 2 platooned I loved Mondays. JV played Monday so varsity had film and walkthru. Defense installed gameplan, when thru formations on barrels.
Offensively I liked to use Mondays as an INDY day. We were always just hats on Mondays. OLINE did all their indy stuff that didnt require a ton of footwork. skills got lots of work in the pass game.
Then we came together. Offensively on Mondays, we ran the base plays for the week against our D who was giving us a scout look. Defensive coaches were coaching the scout D to get the look right. This period was quick pace. There rarely were any wrinkles on Monday, just our base attack. Wrinkles came in Tuesday.
Then we'd switch and the O would run scout cards for the D. Very fast paced. All the core plays and formations that the D was just going thru on barrels. After we would condition --usually with a fun type drill or game. Always liked Mondays --when we platooned. On teams when we didnt platoon, different story.
Thursday was similar with a lot of ST's. Big difference was we had JV kids her on thursday. Thursday became a big JV day. any coaches who werent vital to the period would take the JV kids who werent working in down the other end of the field. Varsity O and D would practice seperate and then we'd serve each other for a brief high tempo team time. lot of situtation stuff on Thursday.
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Post by coacht2210 on Apr 3, 2013 8:05:44 GMT -6
Have graded OLINE last few years. Real simple system. 1 or 0 based on if their man made the play. Certainly very subjective. I dont even tell the players we are grading them. I just use it for me.
It was very useful this past year as we plattooned a few OLineman. Made it easy to decide who should play more. Had one kid that physically wasnt as good, more or less got in the way. But his guy wasnt making tackles and therefor his grade was higher. He was platooning with a kid that was a great blocker -- when he didnt bust his assignment. But he had so many busts his grade was lower.
I guess I would say, I would grade when you have kids platooning or completing for jobs and its tough to decide who to go with.
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Quizzes
Mar 31, 2012 13:56:23 GMT -6
Post by coacht2210 on Mar 31, 2012 13:56:23 GMT -6
Same here. Kids never even get the emails Hudl sends when playlists are shared.. I usually test em all when the games are up... That text messaging thru Hudl. Does that come with the Gold package (or whatever the middle one is that has presentation maker) ?
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Quizzes
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Post by coacht2210 on Mar 30, 2012 6:53:01 GMT -6
Mav, this seems like a great tool for offseason and preseason teaching. Would you send the link out to each kid? Post it on your website?
anyway to run quizes thru hudl?
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Post by coacht2210 on Mar 11, 2011 7:13:15 GMT -6
Coach, have you assembled many different staff members for the upcoming year?
This can be a real good time of year to work with new (and old staff members). Go through technique and fundamentals. Ask new guys how they will teach things? Inquire about what drills they will run. The summer can be a busy time for many and sometimes its not enough time if you need to "coach" your coaches.
If you have a lot of new staff, I would try to spend a lot of time with them and try to get on the same page.
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