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Post by buckeye7525 on Jun 4, 2013 20:19:31 GMT -6
Curious as to how many of you give out playbooks to your kids?
And if you do how exactly do you distribute it? By that I mean either handing out traditional paper playbooks, PowerPoint Playbooks, Video Playbooks, etc.
Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 8:56:19 GMT -6
Only my second year with my current program, but last year we did not hand out anything. We only provided Hudl clips. This year, our HC is in the process of developing a separate playlist on Hudl that will be the playbook.
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Post by agap on Jun 5, 2013 9:03:47 GMT -6
I didn't hand one out last year. But this year I am going to put it on Hudl as a presentation.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 5, 2013 9:09:09 GMT -6
Three years ago I gave everyone one. Found a lot of them on the floor, or stuffed in lockers at the bottom at the end of the year. Won 4 games. Second year, I made them optional. Made them available to kids that wanted one. Found fewer stuffed in lockers. Won 6 games. Last year, didn't give them out to any kids. Won 10 games. Now, I'm not making a correlation with lack of playbooks=more wins, but I don't think 90% of your kids even look at them. I look at it as I'm trying to make the world greener.
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Post by jml on Jun 5, 2013 9:28:02 GMT -6
I have never given out playbooks. I will give them a cheap notebook at let them make their own. Otherwise we show it in a power point, show video clips, walk through it, run through it and run it.
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Post by cqmiller on Jun 5, 2013 9:35:11 GMT -6
I have never given out playbooks. I will give them a cheap notebook at let them make their own. Otherwise we show it in a power point, show video clips, walk through it, run through it and run it. What we do. We do print formation sheets and the 1 page with all the passing concepts on them to give to kids prior to 7on7, but never a FULL playbook. Some of the kids need a visual thing to look at when learning formations and having the concepts broken into #1, #2, #3 seems to speed up the learning process as well.
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Post by 10forhim56 on Jun 5, 2013 9:36:42 GMT -6
I don't give one out either. Kids ask all the time, "can I have a copy of the plays?" My answer, nope, you are not going to read it. If you want to know "the plays" come to practice, pay attention in meetings, and listen to your coaches. If you still don't get them, come by my office anytime and we will discuss whatever it is that you do not understand.
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Post by coachturso on Jun 5, 2013 14:41:17 GMT -6
We put our playbooks on line, like HUDL and our own team forum board. We do not print out a playbook nor do we have our entire playbook on there. The basics like formations, zone count, routes, etc.
QB's have access to other stuff like different coverages and hot routes, etc.
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Post by s73 on Jun 5, 2013 15:59:02 GMT -6
Three years ago I gave everyone one. Found a lot of them on the floor, or stuffed in lockers at the bottom at the end of the year. Won 4 games. Second year, I made them optional. Made them available to kids that wanted one. Found fewer stuffed in lockers. Won 6 games. Last year, didn't give them out to any kids. Won 10 games. Now, I'm not making a correlation with lack of playbooks=more wins, but I don't think 90% of your kids even look at them. I look at it as I'm trying to make the world greener. Exactly. Closest thing I do is put blocking rules on a wrist coach for my line.
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 5, 2013 16:19:30 GMT -6
We used to. Tremendous waste of paper. We teach off Hudl and in the classroom now. We do have a playbook on Hudl and I have manuals. But no playbook issue to kids.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jun 5, 2013 16:30:50 GMT -6
We used to. Tremendous waste of paper. We teach off Hudl and in the classroom now. We do have a playbook on Hudl and I have manuals. But no playbook issue to kids. So the playbooks on Hudl are just for the coaching staff? And do you also put the manuals on there as well?
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Post by carookie on Jun 5, 2013 17:38:12 GMT -6
Never have done a playbook; I agree with a lot of what people have written here, moreover I think kids who have playbooks would think they know the defense by memorizing everything on paper. I dont care what you can draw up on paper, I care how you react as soon as the ball is snapped.
I have a ppt. I show it at the start of spring, and start of summer camp. Most everything in there the kids alreadt know anyways (ie. if I call strong, then our DL will slant strong). I don't want to have that complex of a system that the kids need a book
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jun 5, 2013 20:24:42 GMT -6
Those of you that use a PowerPoint, do you just show it to the kids or do you make it available to them?
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Post by kylem56 on Jun 5, 2013 20:43:21 GMT -6
Kevin In 2011, we gave out a paper playbook to everyone (first time ever for this program) and then collected them at the end of the year. In 2012, we gave out a paper playbook to anyone who asked for one. The seniors rarely ask for one but alot of the sophomores or inexperienced juniors will ask. This year. we will only give out a paper playbook to anyone who asks for one.
Each year and this year too, the Offensive Line gets a handout full of information they will need to know. The skilled players also get a handout of our formations, motions, and passing routes. I have used a powerpoint with the offensive line the last 2 years and went over it in a classroom. If they wanted a copy of it, I sent it to them. I will do the same this year.
New coaches or lower level coaches probaly get the most of out actual paper playbooks. If there was a way to make playbooks more interactive with videos etc. and able to view online (especially with a smart phone), more kids might be interested in them.
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 5, 2013 21:09:40 GMT -6
Kids have access to the playbook on Hudl. Manuals are on there too.
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Post by coacht2210 on Jun 8, 2013 9:23:59 GMT -6
I think its good to have a few options available. I used to give out handouts (with formation and play diagrams, not an entire playbook). Then when Hudl came around I made playlists and shared them. The playlists were presentations with cutups mixed in. I found some kids would still ask for handouts tho. If a kid is asking, why not just give it to him on paper. Some kids still learn that way.
So going forward, I'll put most stuff up on Hudl, but I'll also have some handouts available for those who ask.
** On a sidenote, Hudl presentation mode is great BUT that are not yet viewable on smartphones. Most kids use smartphones to view Hudl so I will continue to make my own "presentations" and post them as playslists. Its really easy btw. you just import powerpoint slides into MovieMaker (or a comparable program) and then just drag and insert the video in. Clearly not as easy as a presentation but until Hudl makes em available on the phones thats what I'll do
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jun 8, 2013 21:09:32 GMT -6
I think its good to have a few options available. I used to give out handouts (with formation and play diagrams, not an entire playbook). Then when Hudl came around I made playlists and shared them. The playlists were presentations with cutups mixed in. I found some kids would still ask for handouts tho. If a kid is asking, why not just give it to him on paper. Some kids still learn that way. So going forward, I'll put most stuff up on Hudl, but I'll also have some handouts available for those who ask. ** On a sidenote, Hudl presentation mode is great BUT that are not yet viewable on smartphones. Most kids use smartphones to view Hudl so I will continue to make my own "presentations" and post them as playslists. Its really easy btw. you just import powerpoint slides into MovieMaker (or a comparable program) and then just drag and insert the video in. Clearly not as easy as a presentation but until Hudl makes em available on the phones thats what I'll do I think that's a really good idea to work around the fact that the presentations don't show up on the mobile devices.
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Post by WTR on Jun 10, 2013 12:31:24 GMT -6
At a small school like I'm at, in my experience it's a waste of time. Too may on floor, stuffed in locker, etc.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 10, 2013 22:37:13 GMT -6
At a small school like I'm at, in my experience it's a waste of time. Too may on floor, stuffed in locker, etc. How many kids are in your school? I'm always interested in what people think is small.
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Post by newhope on Jun 11, 2013 6:08:23 GMT -6
I haven't given one out in years, not since I've been in places where kids may move from school to school in the same city. I don't want my playbook showing up at my rival school.
I like the idea I see here, though, of putting it on HUDL. I think I'll do that.
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Post by buck42 on Jun 14, 2013 15:29:49 GMT -6
Agree with NewPride....
I have two printed up at school and they can look at them any time in my office.
I have given it out to my coaches from time to time but not my hand signals.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Jun 15, 2013 11:51:40 GMT -6
I don't give one out either. Kids ask all the time, "can I have a copy of the plays?" My answer, nope, you are not going to read it. If you want to know "the plays" come to practice, pay attention in meetings, and listen to your coaches. If you still don't get them, come by my office anytime and we will discuss whatever it is that you do not understand. Us too, so I agree with you. But, what do you say when parents ask for it for the kids?
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Post by WTR on Jul 7, 2013 21:01:41 GMT -6
At a small school like I'm at, in my experience it's a waste of time. Too may on floor, stuffed in locker, etc. How many kids are in your school? I'm always interested in what people think is small. Under 400 9-12.
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Post by mattharris75 on Jul 8, 2013 8:50:16 GMT -6
I don't give one out either. Kids ask all the time, "can I have a copy of the plays?" My answer, nope, you are not going to read it. If you want to know "the plays" come to practice, pay attention in meetings, and listen to your coaches. If you still don't get them, come by my office anytime and we will discuss whatever it is that you do not understand. Us too, so I agree with you. But, what do you say when parents ask for it for the kids? Tell the parent that their son can come and talk to you about it. Boilerplate answer for any situation where it should be the kid and not the parent who is addressing it. Part of growing up is learning how to handle these things for yourself. And if the parent is really asking for their own benefit, well, no parent needs a playbook anyway...
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Post by hammer66 on Jul 8, 2013 11:24:39 GMT -6
We don't have HUDL I use a big bulletin board in the locker room to post the Coverages and specialty blitzes. The kids know they are there to review. That has helped tremendously. Everything they need to learn can be taught through repetition.
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