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Post by indian1 on Mar 25, 2010 15:58:30 GMT -6
I'd say the reporter got off light. Woody Hayes would have beat the $hit out of him right there on the practice field.
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Post by indian1 on Mar 11, 2010 20:00:45 GMT -6
Mitch,
you are thinking of Joe Bugle (sp).
Agree with this whole thread
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Post by indian1 on Feb 17, 2010 17:31:43 GMT -6
ride of the valkyries
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Post by indian1 on Feb 8, 2010 16:15:32 GMT -6
No one is arguing the importance of structured, organized, disciplined off-season programs in the coaching football spectrum. But thanks for the edification, luke. Some of us are saying that doing 300-V Ups, 400m Duck Walks, and the like to see who fails or isn't "tough enough" or whatever possible rationale there could be is not sound and a waste of precious time. right on the nuts
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Post by indian1 on Feb 8, 2010 9:08:04 GMT -6
That kind of stuff is a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME. Its hard enough just to train your guys to be better football players. You don't need to rob yourself of training time with stuff they will never use.
Toughness is a stupid thing to focus on because you can't measure it. What is a kid specifically supposed to do when you tell him to "get tougher"? That kind of stuff is confusing to players. Instead focus specifically on what you want done in every instance. For example if you want guys to finish blocks better focus on that in every rep of every drill. Instead of "get tougher" there is some direction and focus "finish the block, go to the whistle". Much more specific, and you can actually see the results of your efforts. Are the guys finishing blocks better? Yes or No and move on from there.
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Post by indian1 on Feb 6, 2010 7:03:22 GMT -6
Well said Coach Gordon. I'm a young coach but I think you hit the nail on the head.
Sorry to hear about your old coach.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 30, 2010 8:39:23 GMT -6
I agree that parents are probably getting crazier, and get way too involved in their son's athletic careers.
I don't think that being a coach is a license to act like a jacka$$ though. There are some points made in the article about the players having to handle tough situations because they will face tough situations in life and that's true. I'm a huge believer in that. But you show me any example in society were its ok for a boss to cuss out, grab, slap, berate, or humiliate a subordinate. The point can always be made without doing any of those things. Any coach who NEEDS to do that stuff is weak in the area of self control or creativity or both.
Should sports be a tough crucible for the players? Absolutely 100% YES! Does that give coaches a license to be abusive? NO. Coaches gotta be smart enough to teach their sport and make it really tough, really demanding and challenging without being abusive in any way. It can be done. That's what makes the great ones great.
Of course some kids won't play because its tough. You don't want them anyway. Of course some parents will b!tch, because that's what parents do. Those things shouldn't stop us coaches from doing things the RIGHT WAY and letting the chips fall where they may.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 11, 2010 6:56:18 GMT -6
I think the time spend on football over the weekend is directly proportional to how well a coach gets along with his wife.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 2, 2010 7:21:25 GMT -6
red, I think I understand what you are asking. We are a spread offense that throws quite a bit so defensively we want to do anything to stop the run and force teams to play a passing game with us. We figure we can throw better than they can because we practice it more.
It probably doesn't sound like you think it would. Being a spread team you might expect us to play a 3-4 or something with a 2 shell but we base out of an 8 man front defensively. Our thinking is we can't let the other team run and possess the ball for a long time. We want to get our offense lots of possessions, score some points and force the other team into our type of game which is passing, fast tempo and lots of possessions.
As for special teams we are aggressive where we can afford to be. We try to block every punt figuring we always have the potential for a big play or at least disrupting the punter to force a bad kick. Worst case scenario we fair catch. But, on our kickoff team we always play with 3 safeties deep because the bottom line for the kickoff team is that they don't score.
It's definitely a risk vs reward philosophy. We ask : Where can we afford to (or need to) be aggressive? and Where do we need to be conservative?
I do think you are asking a valuable question as far as looking at how to match these types of things together. The answers are probably different for every program.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 1, 2010 8:31:41 GMT -6
I can't stand most of those d!ckheads. I do have to admit I like Herbie and Musburger is ok. I just don't expect the news guys to know anything about football.
The one guy I do really really like to listen to is Chris Spielman. He picks out things that no one else can see, and the best part is he is totally frickin crazy.
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Post by indian1 on Jan 1, 2010 8:22:42 GMT -6
Our injured players still dress (to some degree depending on the injury ex. maybe just helmets or just uppers) and go through everything that they ARE cleared to do and help out with the parts of practice that they CAN'T do. So Jim-Bob with a bruise on his arm who can't hit can still warm up, do agilities, catch balls, be in pursuit drills, and run run run. Our kids are good about helping out with things. When I get an injury report from a kid I try to be as specific as possible. I want to know exactly what he CAN do and make sure he does those things.
Another part of this equation is if you don't practice you don't play. You never practice? Fine be a manager. Those kids eventually weed themselves out. As for the screwing around just make sure when you punish them for screwing around make sure they (and the parents) know that it was for screwing around and not because they were injured.
I can just about picture the Leach situation. Here's this kid who has a reputation for missing workouts with suspect injuries. He has a concussion so he can't practice. Maybe he's jacking around on the sideline during practice (which this guy also seems to have a reputation for). Leach gets pissed and sends him to the shed. Not the right move but I can see how a scenario like that could unfold.
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Post by indian1 on Dec 26, 2009 21:00:15 GMT -6
Cut the amount of stuff that you are trying to teach. If they are not getting it, cut back. Hell cut back to 1 defensive coverage and 2 offensive plays if that is what it takes. You gotta start somewhere and if the guys aren't learning cut back to something they CAN do or learn and build from there.
Remember its not what you know, or what the kids "should" know but what the kids do know, and what they can do.
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Post by indian1 on Dec 22, 2009 9:07:43 GMT -6
coachd
You are probably right.
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Post by indian1 on Dec 22, 2009 7:05:51 GMT -6
Good points guys.
The way I'm wanting to do it I would still play 3 or 4 guys on both sides there are always a few guys who have to be on the field. But I would like to structure practice with the idea that we full platoon so everyone would practice one side of the ball except the 3 or 4 studs. They would switch one day to the next.
Right now we do one split day, 1 day offense and 1 day defense. So the extra reps would come to those guys who play one side of the ball not having to practice the other side. So essentially they double their reps.
Maybe the key is like TDM does. Hit offense and defense in the same day. I just really like platooning
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Post by indian1 on Dec 21, 2009 18:58:15 GMT -6
I just see so many benefits to it, I'm trying to figure out how to make it work. I think 6 coaches could do it. That being said, the quality of each coach becomes much more important.
I want to get those extra reps for all of our guys if I can. (platooning would double the reps per position)
And I think we could be a hell of a lot better on special teams if we could do this (play all our studs on ST).
Conventional wisdom says with that small a team you can't do it. That's why I'm asking for some examples. There has to be someone out there who does this effectively.
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Post by indian1 on Dec 21, 2009 16:03:10 GMT -6
do any of you small school guys platoon?
if so how?
I'm talking small...... around 130 boys in the HS and about 40 on the team 9-12
does anyone do it at a school that small?
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Post by indian1 on Nov 11, 2009 17:56:30 GMT -6
I paid too much attention to scheme and our execution suffered. I need to be more patient with players we are developing, and keep the focus on player development. Its so easy to get distracted by the Xs and Os and start chasing ghosts. I realized that I was making this mistake during the season and we got back on track as far as focus but like an earlier post said. We couldn't get that time back and time is so important for developing those guys.
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Post by indian1 on Nov 11, 2009 17:49:39 GMT -6
I did it this year for the first time. I think it was extremely valuable, and it will become more valuable when I can look back at it at the start of next season.
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Post by indian1 on Oct 28, 2009 19:45:14 GMT -6
Have a plan. Be organized. You don't need to spend 16 hours a day if you prioritize well. Don't waste time chasing ghosts. Identify what you HAVE to do to be effective. Do it, and then go home to the wife and kids.
The best coaches I know (D-1, D-2, D-3, high school) have solid family lives. I'm a HC and family always comes first.
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Post by indian1 on Oct 21, 2009 5:53:40 GMT -6
Tell him what you think the problems are frankly and professionally. That is the only chance you have to fix the problem. He will either respond in a good way and you guys can move forward or he'll get defensive and upset. In either case what do you have to lose?
Good assistants will tell their HC's these kinds of things even when it might be painful. Its your JOB to express your concerns to the HC but as I said above do it in a professional manner (you and him alone).
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Post by indian1 on Oct 12, 2009 19:25:55 GMT -6
you don't have to hate someone to beat the living sh!t out of them
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Post by indian1 on Sept 26, 2009 20:02:23 GMT -6
jgordon I know exactly what you mean. Its more about focus and getting ready to practice than pulling muscles. I saw a lot of the same things that you mentioned happening with us so I changed our routine a little and made it like the friggin army. Does it help us prevent injuries? Heck I don't know, but I feel like we (coaches) have a lot more control, and our players have a lot more focus starting practice. We do stuff like if a guy starts over the line everyone runs a sprint. I want them always focusing on the details be it stretching or running a zone blitz.
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Post by indian1 on Aug 7, 2009 19:45:46 GMT -6
the answer is you run the program the right way ( and by right I mean maximizing the educational impact of the program ) for the sake of running it the right way. the result of a good program is the process itself, wins are the eventual by-product of doing things right.
It comes down to this: Why do you coach? Is it to win games, or is it to beyond winning and losing? Do you have a relationship with players or are you just their coach?
A bad program can have a winning team once in a while and a good program will sometimes have a losing team. Over the long run, in a good program the kids learn more and win more.
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Post by indian1 on Jun 20, 2009 6:56:30 GMT -6
We have a bunch of kids who work outside in the summer (farming, construction, landscaping ect.) Those guys never have any trouble with the heat. They are acclimated to it because they are out in it for 10 hours a day everyday. The ones who struggle are the fat @$$es who sit inside in the AC all summer long.
We have water on hand for our kids at all times with unlimited access. Had one issue with a kid (one of the AC junkies who never made a summer workout) who go a little woozie one day that's it.
Like coachD said there is no data that shows more or less heat related problems today compared to the past. I don't have any data but I think its a matter of acclimation. In the past not every building was AC and people got used to the heat so being outside in it was not such a big deal. Most people now are acclimated to AC so that makes it twice as bad when they have to go out in the heat AND workout.
I think the answer is get outside and sweat a little bit every day so you get used to the heat. Hell I do that just to make sure I'm ready for the heat when two a days start.
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Post by indian1 on May 26, 2009 19:15:11 GMT -6
Schemes and strategy MIGHT be interesting to SOME fans.
I have found when I watch a game with some friends who are just casual football fans and they ask me about something in the game they are bored ten seconds into my explanation. When it comes down to it most fans don't give a sh!t how a 3 over 3 under fire zone scheme works. To coaches that stuff is exciting. To most fans its just tedious and boring. That's why some coach and some don't.
I'm just about ruined. I almost can't stand to watch football with anyone anymore, or with the sound turned on.
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Post by indian1 on May 25, 2009 14:06:19 GMT -6
I'd say if you're really doing things right. (Practices are organized and productive, focus is in the right place). Then every day should be fun.
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Post by indian1 on May 23, 2009 10:06:12 GMT -6
This is amazing. I've made every mistake that has been listed (some more than once), and some of them contradict each other! Je$us Chr!st I must be running in circles!
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Post by indian1 on May 18, 2009 6:13:22 GMT -6
I don't give tests but we took them in college. (I played LB so these items will be defense based but might still help)
1. draw up the opponent's favorite 5 formations
2. What is the run/ pass % out of each formation?
3. Given a formation what 2 or 3 plays should we expect?
4. draw up a given stunt or blitz
5. who are the offense's most dangerous players?
Mostly it was a quiz over the material that was on our scouting report.
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Post by indian1 on May 8, 2009 9:01:07 GMT -6
no its really like this: Eric Stratton, rush chairman. D@mn glad to meet ya!
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Post by indian1 on May 8, 2009 8:59:27 GMT -6
Indian1 prefers to refer to himself in third person.....always.
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