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Post by drfootball99 on May 18, 2009 6:03:40 GMT -6
Does anyone give paper tests to your positions or entire team? If so please explain. If you have examples I would love to see them.
I am giving paper test to my QB's next year. Just wanted to see what everyone else does. Thanks.
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Post by indian1 on May 18, 2009 6:13:22 GMT -6
I don't give tests but we took them in college. (I played LB so these items will be defense based but might still help)
1. draw up the opponent's favorite 5 formations
2. What is the run/ pass % out of each formation?
3. Given a formation what 2 or 3 plays should we expect?
4. draw up a given stunt or blitz
5. who are the offense's most dangerous players?
Mostly it was a quiz over the material that was on our scouting report.
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Post by realdawg on May 18, 2009 6:34:49 GMT -6
Coaching OLine, I always gave my guys a written test during our position meetings prior to the game. Usually I gave them 10 plays/pass pro schemes vs the different looks and blitzes we expected to see, and they had to draw up the entire OL assignments.
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Post by 44dlcoach on May 18, 2009 11:30:57 GMT -6
We have a similar quiz to realdawg, except that we make them write out the defensive front and stunt as well. It's nice to get that reassurance that when you name a stunt, they actually know what it means and can draw it.
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Post by jtejada5 on May 18, 2009 12:05:18 GMT -6
We give test. Depending on position I have coached every offensive position at my school now. But right now I am doing running backs. I will ask what the number of the Mike LB What stunts do they like to use. What blitz in what situation and from field or boundry. What would you like to run in the red zone. What protection would you like to use most. Who can you block, who do you need help with. alot of this info we give them in our scouting reports so it actually makes them look at them and the other half is film study. We have seen a huge turnout for both considering they dont play if they dont pass.
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Post by phantom on May 18, 2009 12:06:26 GMT -6
When do you guys find the time to give these tests?
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Post by schultbear74 on May 18, 2009 12:09:16 GMT -6
DL doesn't take these tests, but the OL does. Most of my kids are visual learners. Xs and Os don't mean a whole lot to them
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Post by fbdoc on May 18, 2009 12:13:49 GMT -6
I would ask WHY are you giving them a test? Is it simply an additional teaching device? Does their score factor into their playing time? While I do like the "idea" of paper tests, I will also offer that "knowledge" of this type does not always translate into behavior (results) during the game. Jsut because they "know" doesn't mean they will do it (or are able to do it).
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Post by 44dlcoach on May 18, 2009 12:15:03 GMT -6
We do ours Thursday night after practice before we go to team dinner. Usually only takes about 10 minutes. The test covers things we have worked on all week in practice, so "in theory" the players should have a good command of everything on there. The test is designed to cover some situational stuff too, like maybe a goal line changeup that we didn't get to spend much time going over.
If you go through the tests and see that there is one situation that the everybody is missing and they aren't quite clear on, its nice to know so you can cover it quickly in pregame, or pull an individual aside and get it cleared up before Friday night.
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Post by cqmiller on May 18, 2009 12:21:19 GMT -6
I give a paper test each Thursday night after our position meeting, and the kids have to have it in to me in my office BEFORE the tardy bell for school rings on Friday morning. This does a couple of things: 1) Makes sure that the kids are on time on game day. Admin makes them sit a quarter if they are late for school, and a half if they miss a full period on gameday. 2) The kids are forced to not only tell me the answer, but tell me WHY it is the answer. The kids do not have as much football knowledge as you would hope for, so I try to build that using the tests Examples of QB quiz: X.............................T...G...C...G...T...Y ...............H.......................Q............................................Z ........................................F Draw the opponents base defense against our Singleback formation. Name the front, give all techniques, and indicate your read for the following: a) Pre-snap coverage - ..........Why is it that precoverage? b) Label the force/flat defender to each side of the defense ..........Why is that player the force? c) What plays are "no-goes" against this front? ..........Why? d) What plays can we check into against this front? ..........Why? Depending on the team we are facing, we may give the kids our top 2 formations we will use, or top 3 formations if we are playing a better team that requires us to use more multiple formations. I want to have walked the QB all the way through his pre-snap reads from the break of the huddle, all the way up to the snap with each formation, so that I know that the problem on Friday will not be pre-snap issues. I can always adjust the post-snap issues during the game, but if there is a flaw pre-snap, then the play has no chance! I would ask WHY are you giving them a test? Is it simply an additional teaching device? Does their score factor into their playing time? While I do like the "idea" of paper tests, I will also offer that "knowledge" of this type does not always translate into behavior (results) during the game. Jsut because they "know" doesn't mean they will do it (or are able to do it). If I have 2 QB's that are neck and neck as far as ability, then it will affect who starts or plays, but of course the test will not make me pull my senior QB for a "green" freshman or soph. It gives me a really good indication of what I need to cover in the pre-game meeting, if there is something that obviously wasn't clear, or if there is an issue I see on their test. |
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Post by airman on May 18, 2009 13:56:26 GMT -6
this why ever team needs to have a math teacher or two on the staff.
I was on a staff of math guys. they would break down the film by formation and then what plays were run out of this time.
so for pro set I they would break down the % of plays to the right, to left, to open side, to te side. It was as if we knew what they were running a lot of the time.
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Post by fbdoc on May 18, 2009 15:51:22 GMT -6
cqmiller's use (and others) seems to be the most effective way - using the test as a teaching tool + review instrument, especially for certain positions. I would caution against reading too much into the results though - kids can "know" things in the classroom but when all hell is breaking loose in front of them during the game, their response can be quite different.
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 18, 2009 19:30:01 GMT -6
We use it as a review tool. I always tell my kids that if they know what to do, they at least have a chance of doing it. If they don't know what to do, they have no chance of doing it.
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Post by drfootball99 on May 18, 2009 19:51:31 GMT -6
I would ask WHY are you giving them a test? Is it simply an additional teaching device? Does their score factor into their playing time? While I do like the "idea" of paper tests, I will also offer that "knowledge" of this type does not always translate into behavior (results) during the game. Jsut because they "know" doesn't mean they will do it (or are able to do it). Agreed, but if they don't know there sure aren't going to do it either. I was thinking about using to assess who has learned what and what misunderstandings are out there. I'm sold. |
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Post by ex-centralcoach on May 19, 2009 5:10:58 GMT -6
We have given a test each week for a long time, its all part of our Thursday routine. Its one of the best things we do.
We give a test the night before every game. After a Thursday practice we bring the players in, they shower (hopefully) then take the test. The test is they have to draw up 6 plays vs our opponents defense. All position coaches grade their players' tests. 5 points available for each play. Then I give a powerpoint on what our Offense has to do to win the game, and 3 to 4 plays we must execute to win, sometimes i just put what we are going to open with. Then our Linebacker coach does the same thing for the defense. Then highlights from last week's game, we have a retired coach who spent 50 years at our building talks to the kids, the HC talks, and then team dinner.
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Post by touchdownmaker on May 19, 2009 5:15:42 GMT -6
I have given written tests to my kids, the linemen usually. blocking rules and assignments. I like to quiz the whole team at the white board quite often. Ie ill call a play, let them each draw up their assignment on the board and then I tell them if the play worked , yards gained, lost etc based on the blocking and assignments. I even make them give key coaching points. (hat placement and things like that). time? I like to do this on a very hot day , give em something to drink, take the pads off and focus on assignment.
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Post by kcbazooka on May 19, 2009 15:42:51 GMT -6
I have given tests in the past -- when I was a position coach as opposed to being a head coach I had more time to make up and evaluate tests. One of my duties was a TE position coach - I would "quiz" the kids during the week and remind them the TEST was on Friday night -- everybody would know whether we passed or failed on Friday.
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