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Post by fishon37 on Mar 10, 2010 19:27:01 GMT -6
I heard an ad on the radio for a business guru who said" you don't become a master doing 4000 things,you become a master doing 12 things 4000 times." I started thinking about how much that applies to football and coaching ....I truly believe this in coaching(for me o-line) and sometimes would have a younger coach on the staff (who was assign to help me) want to add to drills just for the sake of adding....I don't know if they wanted this because they were bored or they didn't understand the fundamentals enough to coach them to perfection(or the pursuit off) comments....
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Post by mitch on Mar 11, 2010 16:27:51 GMT -6
I saw an NFL coach, can't believe I can't think of his name (coached the Hogs for Gibbs, HC of the Cardinals for a while), talk about his time as a GA for Woody Hayes.
He said he walked out to the first day of practice with a stack of note cards of drills for the O-line. Hayes told him, "We aren't here to entertain these guys. Teach 'em how to drive block, reach block, down block, and pull. Do that every day."
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Post by lilbuck1103 on Mar 11, 2010 16:52:22 GMT -6
Common theme at the beginning of our staff meetings in regards to the X's and O's.
"Be a master of something instead of a jack- of- all- trades."
Then we begin to build our schemes.
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Post by jdprep42 on Mar 11, 2010 19:49:05 GMT -6
That is my offensive line coaches mantra. We do very few drills, but we do a lot of reps and every day.
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Post by indian1 on Mar 11, 2010 20:00:45 GMT -6
Mitch,
you are thinking of Joe Bugle (sp).
Agree with this whole thread
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Post by mitch on Mar 12, 2010 2:30:05 GMT -6
Mitch, you are thinking of Joe Bugle (sp). Agree with this whole thread Thank you. Driving me crazy.
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Post by utchuckd on Mar 12, 2010 7:29:41 GMT -6
In Outliers, Malcom Gladwell talks about the '10,000 hour' rule. You have to do something for 10,000 hours to become an expert at it.
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Post by gdn56 on Mar 12, 2010 23:25:40 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more...we obviously overthink things sometimes...just REP it
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Post by coach4life on Mar 13, 2010 11:18:21 GMT -6
An expert gets to a place where he thinks he has it all figured out and therefore is entitled to impress to world by pontificating on his immense knowledge and deriving new theories to tell us what we should do.
A master gets to the same place and thinks, "Wow, this has been a great journey and I have much to share, but the best part is I still have miles to go and new things to see, learn, and do."
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Post by coachmoore42 on Mar 13, 2010 16:41:04 GMT -6
This is the exact same thing I have heard all clinic season. Best advice I have heard in my 10 years of coaching.
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Post by airman on Mar 13, 2010 17:45:54 GMT -6
I went to two universities to achieve my undergrad. one ran a byu offense and one ran the wishbone. It was amazing how both had the same philosophy of limited plays and max reps. I remember the first pass pattern we learned was a curl route in the byu offense. everyone learned the curl route and next corner conversion wr, te, rb. the first play we learned in the wishbone was the triple option.
I think too many times we think like the nfl in the fact the nfl might have 100 plays in a game plan however their players know the fundamentals which allows them to focus their time on plays.
I was in the nfl for 6 months(one season) as a gopher coach( go for this, go for that, including my dry cleaning) they all them assistant to the assistant coaches now. anyway, the big thing I learned in the nfl was taht the great players are self motivated and learn the fundamentals on their own time. they get out early or stay late and catch passes from the jugs machine. they do cone drills on their own time.
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Post by mariner42 on Mar 13, 2010 18:08:09 GMT -6
For the players it's all about maximizing technique overlap and extension.
For coaches, it's all about effective time on task. Gladwell's 10,000 hour rule is good, but if you spend 10,000 hours messing around on the whiteboard with no thought to teaching progression, technique, verbage, implementation schedules, etc, then it doesn't matter for squat. Effective time on task assesses what you did, how effective it was, and what you'll do next time. I know that of the hours I spend doing coaching related stuff each week, they don't all necessarily count toward making me a better coaching or give me some kind of leg-up on the competition.
If I repetitively perform an overhead smash while playing ping pong, 20 hours a week for 5 years, I've satisfied Gladwell's 10,000 hours, but I'm still gonna be a pretty lousy ping pong player. I'd need to spend those 5 hours a day on serves and returns and putting spin on the ball and cardio and grips... Not only practicing, but reflectively examining what I'm practicing and doing well and what I'm doing poorly. If I did that for 20 hrs/week for 5 years, I'd be a pretty damn good ping pong player.
Airman touched on an important factor, as well. Gotta be intrinsically/self motivated. Can't really be any other way.
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Post by blb on Mar 14, 2010 7:32:54 GMT -6
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." "If you keep too busy learning the tricks of the trade you may never learn the trade." --John Wooden They Call Me Coach
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Post by 5straight on Mar 14, 2010 15:45:26 GMT -6
Have a foundation and build off that
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