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Post by craines10 on Apr 18, 2017 10:34:36 GMT -6
I guess "lose" is the wrong word...I will lay out a specific debate from last year: Watching film from the night before and we score on a FB dive from the 2 yard line... HC: This week when we work goal line I want to see JC at FB Me: Why? HC: When he moved here in the summer he was a FB/LB and I think he will help us there Me: Well who is going to play RG? HC: We got QH, DC, and TA Me: You just said the previous series that QH cant be in the game on a Friday night anymore, DC is hurt and didnt dress, and TA has never played on the line HC: JC give us more of a blocking threat at FB than GL do...and he probably run the ball better Me: Well who gonna block for JC? What we gonna do if Wednesday during goalline one of the scout defense players accidentally go low when JC coming at them...and he get hurt...then we lose our starting RG to an unnecessary injury HC: What if he get hurt during goalline at RG..we still lose him.. Me: I can live with that...he got hurt playing HIS position HC: Bottom line...we gonna essentially put him there because its my ship and I want to see him at FB I have to be honest... you come off like the frustrating one in this exchange, not your HC. I see his reply here as 100% appropriate. Sounds like you think your HC is stupid. The solution is either resign, or shut up and deal (Like they did in Baton Rouge) I thought THAT specific situation was stupid. I know he has final say..when he asks for my thoughts I give them...but the final say is his..always has always will...but there are instances where there is a discussion involving the gameplan that is back and forth....and it seems like that is his closing statement because he has no rebuttal..I guess that is what gets to me..if you start the "debate" you cant end it with that closing statement. All that being said though when it is over its over, and nothing leaves the meeting room EVER
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Post by craines10 on Apr 18, 2017 6:47:17 GMT -6
Then quit cause bottom line is its his @$$ if you lose. That's why I went along with my HC when he wanted to try a new defense against a certain team and I taught it to the defense like it was the answer to the team we were playing. I fought tooth and nail to not do it when he wanted to but he's the boss. What the big man wants the big man gets. craines10 How does a HC start to lose a debate involving his or her own program? What CS says is correct. If you disagree with your HC, and you can't get over it then quit. Keep in mind we pretty much saw this happen at at Top 5 Level program in college football the last few seasons. As the time passes, more and more stories are coming out of Baton Rouge that are really surprising to almost hard to believe. I guess "lose" is the wrong word...I will lay out a specific debate from last year: Watching film from the night before and we score on a FB dive from the 2 yard line... HC: This week when we work goal line I want to see JC at FB Me: Why? HC: When he moved here in the summer he was a FB/LB and I think he will help us there Me: Well who is going to play RG? HC: We got QH, DC, and TA Me: You just said the previous series that QH cant be in the game on a Friday night anymore, DC is hurt and didnt dress, and TA has never played on the line HC: JC give us more of a blocking threat at FB than GL do...and he probably run the ball better Me: Well who gonna block for JC? What we gonna do if Wednesday during goalline one of the scout defense players accidentally go low when JC coming at them...and he get hurt...then we lose our starting RG to an unnecessary injury HC: What if he get hurt during goalline at RG..we still lose him.. Me: I can live with that...he got hurt playing HIS position HC: Bottom line...we gonna essentially put him there because its my ship and I want to see him at FB
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Post by craines10 on Apr 18, 2017 6:34:55 GMT -6
Thats my problem...I can deal with the fact that HC has final word...what I dont like is when he tries to engage in debate and starts to lose...then goes..."Bottom line...we essentially gonna do it this way because this my ship and my name is behind them wins and losses" Then quit cause bottom line is its his @$$ if you lose. That's why I went along with my HC when he wanted to try a new defense against a certain team and I taught it to the defense like it was the answer to the team we were playing. I fought tooth and nail to not do it when he wanted to but he's the boss. What the big man wants the big man gets. Yeah it took me a year to accept it...but thats what I do. I give my 2 cents and roll with the call...whatever happens after that happens
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Post by craines10 on Apr 17, 2017 14:03:04 GMT -6
I've known a lot of guys who claim they don't want "yes men", but instantly go on the defensive anytime someone challenges them with a different idea. I think issues arise when A) HCs rely on their authority to be trump card (I'm right because I am the HC) and B) when assistants don't accept that being the HC is the trump card. Starting with point A, if you are a HC and you are claiming to be open to advice or challenge, then you better be able to defend your opinion empirically with logic. If you have to just talk over the AC or hold authority over him as the key to winning the debate then why even ask for advice. Conversely, for point B- if you can't accept that the HC will justify some decisions based solely on his position then don't coach for him. This is why I prefer to work for HCs who say from the start, "I appreciate your knowledge, but we are gonna do it this way." Maybe because thats how I always do it too. Thats my problem...I can deal with the fact that HC has final word...what I dont like is when he tries to engage in debate and starts to lose...then goes..."Bottom line...we essentially gonna do it this way because this my ship and my name is behind them wins and losses"
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Post by craines10 on Apr 13, 2017 9:16:57 GMT -6
I'm not sure if any of them had a copy. I am the OC and we hold Defensive meetings separate. The HC, myself and former DC were the only admins on HUDL. Well, the good news is that the new DC gets to write his own playbook. HC is the new DC lol
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Post by craines10 on Apr 12, 2017 11:04:57 GMT -6
On a side note, none of the other coaches had a copy of the stuff? Nobody had hard copies or asked to have a ppt copy to take? I'd hope that one of the defensive assistants who remained would have known it well enough that they could just rewrite it. I'm not sure if any of them had a copy. I am the OC and we hold Defensive meetings separate. The HC, myself and former DC were the only admins on HUDL.
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 12:14:34 GMT -6
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 12:11:16 GMT -6
I don't blame him at all to be honest, his stuff, his system, and he's out the door. If the HC had philosophical problems, why in the world would he want his playbook anyway? I dont know why it bothered him so much
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 12:09:45 GMT -6
Our DC left the staff after 1 season like immediately after we lost in the playoffs. He and the HC had philosophical differences to say it politely...Well around late December HC calls me and asks me where was the defensive playbook. I told him I didnt know, and come to find out the DC deleted the playbook off HUDL. It was his 4-2-5 defense and his terminology...but it appears HC was really upset about him deleting the playbook. My question is..was he wrong? When I talked to him he said No way he was leaving his playbook on there for our HC to steal. What are you guys thoughts? Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, it's done. What are going to do, sue him? True...If he sues him...I might leave the staff lol
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 12:01:38 GMT -6
Our DC left the staff after 1 season like immediately after we lost in the playoffs. He and the HC had philosophical differences to say it politely...Well around late December HC calls me and asks me where was the defensive playbook. I told him I didnt know, and come to find out the DC deleted the playbook off HUDL. It was his 4-2-5 defense and his terminology...but it appears HC was really upset about him deleting the playbook. My question is..was he wrong? When I talked to him he said No way he was leaving his playbook on there for our HC to steal. What are you guys thoughts?
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 11:27:34 GMT -6
This is great stuff Coach!
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 11:12:25 GMT -6
I agree with fantom and fkaboneyard. But I also looked at it as a coach...That's that BS and I probably would have lost it on him. As a former walk on who had to play well every spring to get scholarship money, I see why dud took the knockout shot when the opportunity presented itself..
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Post by craines10 on Dec 15, 2016 12:34:38 GMT -6
And we get stern looks of displeasure from the office if we take a Friday off to go to one...its pretty obvious though when 4 football coaches all take off a Friday in Feb/March and the school struggling to get subs! lol
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Post by craines10 on Dec 15, 2016 12:33:24 GMT -6
Nothing
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Post by craines10 on Nov 3, 2016 8:41:58 GMT -6
I dont know what to say...everytime I say it in my head it sounds so bad...
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Post by craines10 on Oct 31, 2016 9:13:50 GMT -6
2016 came to an end Friday night...with a 51-19 loss in the 2nd round of the playoffs...In Indiana we have an everybody qualifies for the playoffs system so our record ended up 2-9...Not real happy with how our season went and not talking about record..I feel we had 7/8 win talent but lack of discipline from Day 1 in the summer led to a season worth of personal fouls, ejections, couple players being kicked off, and just total underachievement all around. I stand at a crossroads this off season...I like teaching at this school...but coaching wise I dont see anything changing.....How can I suggest to our HC that we need to be more strict without sounding like I am attacking the way he is running the program?
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Post by craines10 on Sept 14, 2016 12:02:39 GMT -6
The one we got this week look like it was shot from across the street from the stadium on a roof
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Post by craines10 on Aug 18, 2016 12:10:28 GMT -6
Loved that sign. The players and Coach Arians are all very quotable as well. I am using the "excuses will always be there opportunity won't" quote this year I Already have! lol
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Post by craines10 on May 19, 2016 13:17:12 GMT -6
Herman Boone: To hear how much of Remember the Titans was fact and how much was fiction
Bobby Bowden/Steve Spurrier/Jimmy Johnson all at the same time
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Post by craines10 on Apr 22, 2016 12:11:18 GMT -6
The field
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Post by craines10 on Apr 20, 2016 7:30:00 GMT -6
I took over the OC role and the role of "head culture coach." Head Culture Coach?
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Post by craines10 on Apr 18, 2016 7:42:11 GMT -6
Appreciate the various insight
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Post by craines10 on Apr 14, 2016 12:52:21 GMT -6
When you became an HC did you also take on the OC or DC role? Did you already have an offense and defensive philosophy and scheme you planned on your program running? I am asking because when I become a HC I cant decide whether I want to have a defensive scheme/playbook that I want to have ran or do I want to hire someone to run their own defensive scheme. I know what I want the defensive philosophy of my program to be so that person would definitely have to share the same vision. What did you do?
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Post by craines10 on Apr 12, 2016 14:14:07 GMT -6
I believe its in everyday interaction...we finished the year with about 65 kids 9-12 give or take 3...and I know ALL faces..even if I cant remember their name. See them in the hallway give them a fist pound and ask how they are doing, event the graduating seniors who only played 1 year...make it a point to keep tabs on them and speak every day. I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Some names slip my mind. Not very many but it happens! lol
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Post by craines10 on Mar 29, 2016 7:41:50 GMT -6
I believe its in everyday interaction...we finished the year with about 65 kids 9-12 give or take 3...and I know ALL faces..even if I cant remember their name. See them in the hallway give them a fist pound and ask how they are doing, event the graduating seniors who only played 1 year...make it a point to keep tabs on them and speak every day.
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Post by craines10 on Feb 18, 2016 8:51:18 GMT -6
Our staff needs this thread so bad! We have entirely too much going on offensively and defensively...
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Post by craines10 on Feb 18, 2016 8:43:42 GMT -6
I feel like I am a grinder but I aint bout to stay up all hours of the night watching and re watching the same film when I can watch it everyday once or twice a day with different reasons to watch each time
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Post by craines10 on Feb 17, 2016 13:23:20 GMT -6
This past season we are playing a team in our conference who is decent..but their best player is going to Ohio State so in our kids eyes the entire team is going to Ohio State. It was the first "cold" game we had this year and we had a few players making excuses about the cold. At halftime the HC is trying to pump the kids up and his speech gets derailed due to our best WR brutal honesty/being a butt hole....
HC: They got (D1 kids name) out there...ya'll should be hype...trying to take it to him every play. Its scouts out there. This is the time to impress. Go out there and ball out..dont worry about the cold. I tell you one person thats not cold...KJ aint cold are you KJ?
KJ: Yeah Coach its cold out there....
HC: He just trying to be funny..he not really cold
KJ: Yes I am....especially when the defense out there...
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Post by craines10 on Feb 8, 2016 10:20:03 GMT -6
Down the street
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Post by craines10 on Feb 8, 2016 10:19:22 GMT -6
Lol...he said email me and i will talk to you about it! lol
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