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Post by carookie on Apr 9, 2017 13:45:30 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Apr 10, 2017 6:26:08 GMT -6
When I saw that what I thought of is that in spring ball coaches and players have different goals. Coaches want to keep the team healthy and make the team better. The goal for individual players is to get noticed and get playing time.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Apr 10, 2017 11:36:58 GMT -6
When I saw that what I thought of is that in spring ball coaches and players have different goals. Coaches want to keep the team healthy and make the team better. The goal for individual players is to get noticed and get playing time. I thought the same thing. As a coach I'd be pissed at the time but I would notice it and it might make me think more about playing him. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 10, 2017 13:12:09 GMT -6
This is a reason why I like having controlled opportunities for contact. Those guys feel a need to make a statement, so let them do it on your terms.
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Post by craines10 on Apr 11, 2017 11:12:25 GMT -6
I agree with fantom and fkaboneyard. But I also looked at it as a coach...That's that BS and I probably would have lost it on him. As a former walk on who had to play well every spring to get scholarship money, I see why dud took the knockout shot when the opportunity presented itself..
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Post by coachmonkey on Apr 11, 2017 12:19:35 GMT -6
The RB should have dove on the ball and he wouldn't have got hit like that. The Defensive player was moving full speed and the back was trying to pick up the ball. I do not think it was targeting as you should be expected to get hit if you are the player trying to pick up a fumble. Now, they may have rules that no one goes to the ground on a fumble which is common, so whatever the coaches decide is fine. I agree with others, as an offensive coach I'd be mad, as a defensive coach I'd take note, as a player, he did what he is suppose to do. I doubt he is getting cut for that hit.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 12, 2017 10:52:07 GMT -6
You have one of three choices as a coach in this situation:
1. Limit contact to "thud" during the spring game which will limit how you can evaluate players.
2. Don't place an emphasis on the spring game in terms of assessment of players. Tell the players to play hard but remember that they're playing against their team mates.
3. Disregard #1 and #2 and let the players play hard and risk injury.
I personally don't view the hit as "targeting". The defender was playing fast and hard and drilled the RB the same way he would in a game during the season. Yes, I'd be p-ssed off because somone was injured but it's hard to fault the defender as his scholarship is on the line during that game.
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Post by blb on Apr 12, 2017 11:08:44 GMT -6
I understand wanting to avoid injuries but if you're going to play a GAME at conclusion of Spring practice which players can look forward to - especially if you're going to promote it as such and sell tickets which many schools do - let the kids go all out. Don't we coaches always warn them that the time they'll get hurt is when they're NOT going full-speed? And as coachcb already intimated - how can you honestly evaluate them if they aren't? |
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Post by jrk5150 on Apr 12, 2017 11:43:06 GMT -6
Ultimately what is going to be asked (already being asked) is whether a hit like this has any part in the game. He wasn't trying to tackle the ball carrier. He wasn't trying to recover the fumble. He was delivering a big hit with no specific purpose other than the hit itself. Does that belong in the sport?
I'm not saying it does or doesn't, I'm just saying that is what the question is.
And right or wrong, it's hard to argue that hits like this - whether legal or not - help the survival of the sport.
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