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Post by olcoach53 on Dec 19, 2023 9:00:38 GMT -6
Tony Franklin system is just the Air Raid with his own terminology
Also he refers to it as "The System" which is as egotistical as it gets
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Post by olcoach53 on Dec 18, 2023 7:29:44 GMT -6
As long as terminology is the same I give them some wiggle room to run their plays on offense and defense. The only the I ask is that they don't show anything new that we have put in for that week (We play our lower level games on Thursdays) but other than that they have full autonomy
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 14, 2023 9:06:51 GMT -6
Hindsight is always 20/20 in regards to hiring or not hiring coaches. Kept two guys on staff from the previous regime and hired an old timer at the request of my AD. Fired them all after the first game Jesus, please elaborate! Just a couple of guys who never really bought into the change that was being implemented.
One was a defacto STC who didn't know anything about Special Teams and thought that squib kicking was the best bet. Was a total negative presence who was always finding ways to complain about the kids, scheme and whatever else he could get in his brain.
Second guy was the former HCs best friend and DC, just needed to be done for the sake of our kids, not a bad guy as he does a good job with the youth program. Last guy was the new body who constantly questioned everything I did, would stare at me smugly when I told him what I wanted to be done and was telling our kids not to squat during the season so they could save their knees.
All three needed to be done, the first two should have been done when I got hired instead of bringing them along. The last one was me trying to do a solid for our AD but she agreed it needed to be done.
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 14, 2023 8:04:27 GMT -6
Hindsight is always 20/20 in regards to hiring or not hiring coaches. Kept two guys on staff from the previous regime and hired an old timer at the request of my AD. Fired them all after the first game
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 14, 2023 8:02:01 GMT -6
12 and 2 for the first question
No for the second question
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 10, 2023 13:38:19 GMT -6
Had a very respectable JV season this year considering that group of boys had not won a game in 3-4 years depending on who you ask. They finished 5-2 but one of those losses was a game that was directly taken from their hands by poor officiating. The side judge on OUR sideline had a vendetta against our community so he would throw any flag he could and when questioned his response was "I remember you from the game on Saturday (A youth game that none of our coaches were at) and I won't tolerate your mouth". Needless to say we fought through that and lose 24-22 but here is when it gets fun. Our wonderful parents decided to berate the officials AND opposing team after the game and when our DC (his son plays on the JV team) approached the parent to calm him down he was told that he was just the "big time varsity coach and he could shut his effing mouth" That was a fun couple hours hearing about all of that! Oh the joys of coaching HS football - especially Sub-Varsity where all the former Little League parents reside. One school I was at had to ban a dad from attending any games because he physically threatened our JV coach for not playing his son more. Sad part was his son was a good kid, just small and unathletic who couldn't play a lick, one game he got into he got concussed because he couldn't protect himself. If we hadn't been so low on numbers he's the kind of kid I would have advised to be a manager if he still wanted to be part of program. Too many parents feel like if they're son-daughter is not a starter or even a star it's a reflection on them somehow. Which means the coach is incompetent of course. Had a grandpa approach me this season and ask why his grandson wasn't playing and I had to politely walk away. Kid was rarely at practice because he was "sick" and when he was there he tended to hide in the back.
Had another kids dad try to come into the locker room during pregame because his kid lied to him about playing football and the dad drove 3+ hours to be there at the game. Dad was fine once we had a conversation but the kid ended up quitting the next week to "work so he could buy a car"
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 10, 2023 12:44:52 GMT -6
Had a very respectable JV season this year considering that group of boys had not won a game in 3-4 years depending on who you ask. They finished 5-2 but one of those losses was a game that was directly taken from their hands by poor officiating. The side judge on OUR sideline had a vendetta against our community so he would throw any flag he could and when questioned his response was "I remember you from the game on Saturday (A youth game that none of our coaches were at) and I won't tolerate your mouth".
Needless to say we fought through that and lose 24-22 but here is when it gets fun. Our wonderful parents decided to berate the officials AND opposing team after the game and when our DC (his son plays on the JV team) approached the parent to calm him down he was told that he was just the "big time varsity coach and he could shut his effing mouth"
That was a fun couple hours hearing about all of that!
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 9, 2023 10:23:36 GMT -6
Anybody on here used or seen Pro-Look uniforms?
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 16, 2023 9:12:38 GMT -6
We have seen the entire gambit.
Shotgun Power run Shotgun Spread Shotgun Spread Under center Flexbone Shotgun Spread Wing T Shotgun Spread Shotgun Wing T Wing T
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 11, 2023 8:39:07 GMT -6
Lots!
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Post by olcoach53 on Sept 27, 2023 9:02:25 GMT -6
My situation in this thread seem like an episode of the Twilight Zone. My kid has been has started at ILB this season, is third on the team in tackles and has recruited at least 4 other kids to play. He hangs out at the field with his friends for an hour after practices, the coaches are all gone. He organized film sessions for LB's. There have been more nights than not that he will seek me out at home to ask questions about our opponent and the offensive game plan (he is a fullback and we don't use the FB very often and if we do it is a senior that is a DI caliber kid). Best year yet. we are ranked 5 in the state.
Plus you are a hell of a cook, so that helps too
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Post by olcoach53 on Aug 7, 2023 12:45:51 GMT -6
Strangest I've heard in these regards is a teacher (can't remember if he coached or not) was in a tree spying on neighboring high school females having a pool party. Well, one of the girls actually started to drown and he sprung into action and saved her. Once things calmed down, where he was exactly and how he knew so quickly the girl needed help came into question. This happened years ago and a quick google search proved fruitless, but I know it was a small Illinois school.
This is like the subplot to Back to The Future
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Post by olcoach53 on Jun 12, 2023 7:47:56 GMT -6
There are people actually praising this kids business acumen...it's shameful.
The real funny part is that the kid only plays 7 on 7 football and probably will only play 7 on 7 football.
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Post by olcoach53 on May 31, 2023 7:04:28 GMT -6
Wait a minute...so the Coach who won't give a ring to players because they aren't playing football the next season because they are focusing on their sport they will be playing in college for free, is leaving for a new school?
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Post by olcoach53 on May 30, 2023 11:43:00 GMT -6
If a kid helped the team to get a ring, he deserves his ring.
The main kid isn't playing football because he is a D1 Baseball player and had a long list of injuries from football that could hinder his baseball scholarship. It isn't like he is quitting just to quit. Give the kid the ring that he helped the TEAM earn.
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Post by olcoach53 on May 11, 2023 7:09:56 GMT -6
I actually find myself watching things other than sports more than not. I will watch the occasional college game and sometimes try to catch a Bears game if I am in the market, but other than that it's Food network or Ted Lasso...
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Post by olcoach53 on May 10, 2023 11:01:32 GMT -6
Once had a HC tell us we were going to meet at 7AM on Saturday after a bad loss. Screamed that he wanted each of our films watched and graded before the 7am meeting and we probably got back at 1am. Myself, the RB coach and the DC all stayed in our offices until about 3am watching and grading and then turned around and got back to school at 6:45am or so for the meeting...HC cancelled it via text around 7:15
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Post by olcoach53 on May 9, 2023 8:16:04 GMT -6
ALMOST worked for a guy who made Saturdays mandatory and made sure the coaches knew it would be an 8am to 8pm day. Promptly took a team destined for 10-0 and finished 5-5. Most wins he has had in his tenure has been 6 in a season.
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Post by olcoach53 on Apr 26, 2023 6:21:54 GMT -6
I think it will be a tough turnaround for him and Colorado. You can't come in and tell everybody to leave and then get upset when everybody leaves. They will have a small roster and injuries could derail the entire season. I can see a below .500 record in year one and not much better in year 2. Year 3 will be the big tell IF he can make it that far without another mass exodus of players or coaches.
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Post by olcoach53 on Mar 9, 2023 11:06:22 GMT -6
This always led to issues when I saw it happen. Kids would come up to the varsity level mid-season and would be very confused on what their assignment was. When I was coaching JV we would do things differently than the varsity but would keep the same terminology on our level, for instance the varsity did not run a lot of jet or jet motion but we had it in our terminology so we ran it on JV.
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Post by olcoach53 on Mar 5, 2023 10:59:01 GMT -6
I know of a coach who got a HFC gig by selling his “4 Ds” program. Each D stood for a word that I have long since forgotten but they were probably words like Discipline, Devotion, etc, etc. It sounded great. The problem was, the “program” was nothing more than a 1 page Google doc that got printed out, posted in the weight room, and then promptly ignored by all the players. He was one of those guys who viewed himself as a “builder of men” but it was largely all in his mind. At the end of the day, it’s ok to just be a football coach.
Dodge duck dip dive and dodge?
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Post by olcoach53 on Mar 1, 2023 15:15:49 GMT -6
I've posted this before, although I struggle with putting into words how bad it was. This was back in the summer of '18. We offered weights at two different times--5:30 in the morning and then an afternoon period. What made the 5:30 period rough was our on-the-field workouts went until 8:30 the night before so that was a quick turnaround for the kids and whoever the coach was that had that duty the next morning. One time we returned from an overnight, full-padded camp at 11 p.m. on a Sunday. I asked if I should announce no weights in the morning or if the kids figured it out. He looked at me and went, "Why would we cancel weights tomorrow?" Granted, he wasn't the one on duty the next morning, I was! And then those on-the-field workouts I mentioned, they were actually scheduled for 5-7:30 three evenings a week. The 7:30 turned into 8:30 more often than not by the time we ran over and the HC gave his postpractice speech. They were conducted in helmets and shoulder pads, although this is not legal in Iowa. And, he frontloaded the time requirements as summer went on. The evening weights session already coincided with the 5 o'clock start time, then he would add film prior to the weights session, then coaches meeting before that. By July, I was spending from about 2-9 at the school 3-4 times a week with some morning weight duty mixed in there as well. It made for a looooong summer...
Was his last name similar to a tool used in carpentry?
Story #4: Said HC was very adamant about being in the office as much as possible and not leaving said office for anything at all. Even so much as chastising a few of us for going to the gym during lunch for our "lunchtime lift" from Noon until 1pm. Well we stopped listening to him when we found out that from 1pm-3pm every day he took a nap in his office with the door shut...
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Post by olcoach53 on Mar 1, 2023 11:58:49 GMT -6
You guys want more?
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 28, 2023 17:08:38 GMT -6
Story 3: We were all told by the higher ups that the full timers needed to be in at 8am for a breakfast on campus. The morning of, the HC tells us all that we don't need to be at the breakfast even though we are all already on our way in (We all lived at least 30 minutes away, with myself living over an hour away). We all get to the office and throughout the course of the day find out that we are all in trouble for not going to the breakfast...
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 28, 2023 10:07:03 GMT -6
Story 1: Head coach decided that it would be "funny" and he that would relate to the kids by coming out to practice in a wave cap and immediately ask an injured player to take his picture with two African American players... We all just looked at each other and shook our heads Coach Michael Scott from the Scranton Knights???
I wish it was as comical as The Office. He didn't know that he should NOT do that sort of thing and thought it would make him more relatable...I kid you not this guy was the king of idiotic takes.
Story 2: He begged and pleaded for as many trick plays as humanly possible as he thought this would help us to accomplish more than our 12 ppg. He wanted them on offense and every special team. We would practice these trick plays on special teams more than we would actually practice special teams. The one day he begged for a trick on KOR we installed it, then when it wouldn't even work in practice he complained about all the trick plays...
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 26, 2023 11:26:24 GMT -6
Story 1:
Head coach decided that it would be "funny" and he that would relate to the kids by coming out to practice in a wave cap and immediately ask an injured player to take his picture with two African American players...
We all just looked at each other and shook our heads
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 24, 2023 11:24:55 GMT -6
My last year coaching college ball, I was at a D3 school where the HC was the OC and also coached the QBs (he had been a career OL coach before becoming HC). We would staff meet at 5 to watch practice film from the previous day, lift and position meet from 6 to 8, meet as a staff until about 9:30, put together the practice plan for the day until 10:15 and then he would hang out with head coaches of other sports, scroll through Twitter, and take a 2 hour lunch every day while we broke down film for the next week's opponent and recruited. We had our daily special teams meeting at 2 and had practice from 2:30 to 6. After practice, we would go back to the office and staff meet until 7 and then work on the gameplan (usually until 8:30 or 9). The gameplan meetings would consist of him pulling up film for the first time and watching the same couple clips 15 or 20 times each before he decided to keep the gameplan pretty much the same as it was the week before, regardless of what anybody else thought we should run. I knew what I was getting into when I became a college football coach, and I had GA'd under this coach before, so I knew what to expect from him. I would have been perfectly fine with working 16 hour days if we had 16 hours worth of work to do, but it was the fact that we would take 10 hours of work and stretch it out over 16 hours that really got to me. I'm not sure if it was laziness or the idea that "this is what you do in college football," but it was a waste of time, and ultimately was a key reason why I got out of college ball. It wasn't all bad. The HC was an excellent leader of men and he really took care of his players and his assistants, but he wasn't a great OC before he got a head job and he got even worse after he had HC responsibilities on top of it. I think it all would've worked out much better if he had given up the OC title and just coached a position. I am having PTSD reading this thread. Worked for a very similar guy except he was NOT an excellent leader of men and did NOT take care of his players or assistants...so that made it all worse.
Oh, the stories I have from 6 months will last me a lifetime.
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 7, 2022 10:47:06 GMT -6
Why are they going to happen? Why should they happen? They are unacceptable in HS football. And if you get flagged for them they can cost you a game. Why are they going to happen? Because you're dealing with teenage, testosterone filled boys who are immature. Sometimes it's encouraged by the coach which is terrible. Sometimes it happens because it's encouraged by a parent, sibling, or uncle which is also terrible. It happens at the highest levels of football by adults who can be fined for that kind of stuff. So yes, it's going to happen during a high school football game. Why should they happen? They shouldn't. Yes, they are unacceptable in HS football. Yes, the penalty can cost the team a game. You make relevant and valid points, but the shock and awe from coaches about a team being dirty is a bit silly. Teach your kids to control what they can control. Let the officials know about it and hey, even talk to the opposing coach about it if needed. Sorry but this should NOT happen. If you aren't fixing it, you're allowing it. And sometimes there are coaches who not only allow it but encourage it. There is no business for things like this at ANY level of football.
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Post by olcoach53 on Jul 13, 2022 7:54:29 GMT -6
Few stories for this thread:
Last season we were playing our big rival in the de-facto conference championship game. One of their corners makes a big play on the sideline and starts whooping up to their crowd. Well it didn't help that their crowd was behind our bench so he got a penalty for cheering at our sideline.
Back in 2018 I was a HC in Iowa and we were playing the best school in district. They had a literal psycho at MLB who kept making plays all over the field. Finally he made a play on our sideline and dropped a "Eff you guys" in front of our staff. I wasn't even mad because I knew the kid would go nuts all the time. Just alerted the refs and the kid actually apologized to us after the game.
As for my playing days the best one I had was from my semi-pro days. We were rolling a team and the guard and tackle next to me were literally giggling the entire game at the stuff they were saying. At one point they pancaked the poor nose and all I hear is our guard yelling "are those your keys in your pocket?!" very loudly...It was hard to snap the next play "
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Post by olcoach53 on Jun 3, 2022 10:47:53 GMT -6
Had the opposite type of situation happen during my first year coaching. I was co-coaching the OL with a players dad. The player ONLY played because he was the coaches kid and it showed. Never practiced, didn't know the offense, acted like an entitled punk. During a game mid-season I went to replace him after he got our QB killed for a second time and the kids dad went Ape poop and yelled in my face that if I ever took his kid out again we would have problems...
Well I did and of course we did NOT have problems. Thankfully the dad quit coaching that next season and we never had to deal with any issue like that again.
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