lws55
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Post by lws55 on Nov 14, 2023 7:59:45 GMT -6
I have been tasked with updating and correcting our Stats on Maxpreps, we had a guy that used to do it but he only recorded Tackles and turnovers for defense (he is our assistant offensive line coach, so I think he thought he was doing defense a favor by doing stats)
Question #1 for the group: MaxPreps has a column for TFL do you record tackles and TFL? For example #20 had 12 tackles 2 were TFLs does he get 12 tackles and 2 TFL or 10 tackles and 2 TFL?
Question #2: If the pass is uncatchable or just purposely thrown out of bounds do you still give the DB a pass defended?
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 14, 2023 8:02:01 GMT -6
12 and 2 for the first question
No for the second question
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Post by CanyonCoach on Nov 14, 2023 10:53:58 GMT -6
Our conference information director tells us not to rely on Max preps for anything.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Nov 14, 2023 15:12:03 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there.
Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't.
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Post by chadavan on Nov 14, 2023 22:28:01 GMT -6
A pass defensed is only when the defender knocks the ball out, before or after the offensive player touches it. In other words, The defensive player must have caused the incompletion for it to be counted as a pass defended.
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Post by chadavan on Nov 14, 2023 22:36:47 GMT -6
Question #1 for the group: MaxPreps has a column for TFL do you record tackles and TFL? For example #20 had 12 tackles 2 were TFLs does he get 12 tackles and 2 TFL or 10 tackles and 2 TFL? In your example: 12 Tackles and 2 TFL. TFL is a subset category of tackles. If they had only had 2 tackles and both went for a loss, it would be 2 tackles and 2 TFL |
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Post by carookie on Nov 14, 2023 22:51:56 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there. Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't. There used to be a girl's soccer coach at a school I worked at who refused to update her team's stats on maxpreps in fear of the opponent using it as scouting information. Then theyd know who to mark on our team was her worry. |
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Post by Defcord on Nov 15, 2023 8:56:30 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there. Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't. I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? |
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Post by carookie on Nov 15, 2023 11:53:36 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there. Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't. I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? I could be wrong, but I have talked to a number of college coaches who say that stats on maxpreps led them to become aware of players. It could benefit the kids to post stats. |
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Post by Defcord on Nov 15, 2023 13:15:33 GMT -6
I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? I could be wrong, but I have talked to a number of college coaches who say that stats on maxpreps led them to become aware of players. It could benefit the kids to post stats. That's understandable. I have had a different experience with colleges having low interest in stats, but if that is true it at least makes me feel like the time is a little more worth it. We have a conference rule that we have to post stats by Monday or our school pays $100 fine. We can't afford it so we put them in. But if I the rule went away or we had deep pockets, we wouldn't do it. |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Nov 15, 2023 14:28:18 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there. Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't. I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? Bush league might not be the best word to describe it since we exchange film. I used to coach baseball and people would not put up stats or even falsify them to gain an advantage and there isn't any film there so That's bush league. I just feel that there really is no reason to NOT put up the stats on maxpreps. We have a team in our league that doesn't post stats until the very end of the season when all-league voting comes up and it makes people wonder about their validity. Posting the stats is good for the kids. |
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lws55
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Post by lws55 on Dec 8, 2023 11:50:25 GMT -6
Falling under the category of "you have done a good job so I want you to do more work that no one else wants to do"
I have now been tasked with doing the special teams stats as well. So Question for the group:
1. How do you figure punt and kick off with returns? I know on Punt that it is from the LOS and not where he kicked it from and KO is obviously from the 40. Do you subtract what ever yardage the returner brings it back from the distance? So we kicked it from the 40 the returner catches it on the 10 and returns it to the 20 is that 50 yards (40 to the -10) or is it 40 yards (40 - 20(where it was caught + the return)?
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Post by bluboy on Dec 8, 2023 12:38:05 GMT -6
I do it exactly as you describe. The total distance of punt, minus the yards returned. What good does it do to have a 50-yard punt and the opponent gets a 40-yard return? BUT, I do keep track of the punt distance(before return).
Same thing for kick-off. Distance of kick, minus yards returned. I record the original kick distance, did kick go into end zone, start spot for opponent offense.
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Post by chadavan on Dec 8, 2023 15:13:13 GMT -6
Falling under the category of "you have done a good job so I want you to do more work that no one else wants to do" I have now been tasked with doing the special teams stats as well. So Question for the group: 1. How do you figure punt and kick off with returns? I know on Punt that it is from the LOS and not where he kicked it from and KO is obviously from the 40. Do you subtract what ever yardage the returner brings it back from the distance? So we kicked it from the 40 the returner catches it on the 10 and returns it to the 20 is that 50 yards (40 to the -10) or is it 40 yards (40 - 20(where it was caught + the return)? It's been a while since I've done stats for the NFL, and I didn't do special teams stats, so take this with that in mind There's a difference between Team Stats and Individual stats, Individual Stat: A punter gets credit for the LOS to where the kick was caught or downed, or to the 20 if downed in the end zone: In your example, the punter's stat line would be 50 yards. The returner's stat line: 10 return yards. Team Stat (Kicking Team): The team gets credit for the net gain/loss, in your example, Punt 50 yards (Punter), returned 10 yards (Returner). Team stat: punt for 40 yards. Team Stat (Returning Team): Team stat: punt return for 10 yards. Hope I'm explaining that clearly. |
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 19, 2023 7:13:25 GMT -6
Maxpreps should be used. I think it's bush league when teams don't post their stats. Kind of like not having an accurate roster on there. Maxpreps is great if the coaches use it correctly and accurately. IME, people here in our leagues are pretty accurate with their stats. Tackles is always a tough one because you never know how accurate those are. One guy might give a kid an assist for being late to the party while someone else doesn't. I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? You're doing your kids a disservice if you don't enter stats. Coaches should be promoting their kids and team whenever and wherever they can. The paranoia of other teams knowing your stats is ridiculous. |
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Post by Defcord on Dec 19, 2023 7:24:51 GMT -6
I don't like to put stats on Maxpreps. We stat out our games and share with our kids, but I don't see any major benefit to our program by posting them publicly. We trade rosters and two deep so that aspect of it doesn't make a difference. Why do you feel it's bush league not to share? You're doing your kids a disservice if you don't enter stats. Coaches should be promoting their kids and team whenever and wherever they can. The paranoia of other teams knowing your stats is ridiculous. I have no paranoia for the other team knowing our stats. It's somewhat time consuming and I don't think it really promotes kids or the program much. The only people who see stats on maxpreps are people who are going there to specifically find them. We have to do them because it's a league rule, but if it wasn't I wouldn't do the stats on maxpreps. |
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