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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 14, 2017 11:22:01 GMT -6
If my team is walloping another team and I put our benchwarmers in I expect the other team to compete (that makes my kids better). If the other team's players (or coaches, had the situation before) are acting like pricks when they have some success I'm going to put my starters back in and we're going to stomp them into the mud.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 13, 2017 22:12:26 GMT -6
I always have a portion in my banquet speech where I discuss areas of improvement for the program. I always make sure that I insult myself to a degree during this time to show that I am willing to get better and that we are all in it together. I never insult a player or a group during a banquet, but sometimes you don't have anything good to say so you don't say anything at all; therefore, this year's banquet is going to be very short. In my experience, there is no upside to saying anything negative at the banquet. We always use that time to show gratitude to players, parents, coaches & others for the season we just had and lay the foundation for how we plan to build in the future. The times where the season was a dumpster fire or a handful of kids were a total pain in the balls are always a challenge, you're expected to say something nice but it's hard to find the words.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 13, 2017 13:28:31 GMT -6
Bad judgment to use that in public.
He should've expected some blowback.
When he said it I know in my mind I was like "That didnt sound right"..I am sure afterwards he probably did too but I never asked him about it. I am sure that parent didnt either though. I wonder how he'd feel about the AD getting up at the All conference banquet and saying, "We would have made playoffs if we had coaches from the top 2 teams in the conference."
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 13, 2017 11:51:20 GMT -6
What was the comment, just out of curiosity? He said that at the All Conference banquet other coaches said that if our back ran behind a line like the top 2 teams in the conference he would have easily been a 2000 yard back. The woman should have kept her fat trap shut but what the HC said at the banquet is a douchebag thing to say, especially at the banquet.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 8, 2017 9:25:40 GMT -6
Come in with a plan. It may include you seeking out other coaches to brain-storm/get advice, it may not. But personally, I'd get out in front of it with a "here is my plan", so that he can do the "oh, okay, never mind" and be done with it. Sounds like he had what he thought was a good idea that didn't turn out to be. Maybe he's not the brightest bulb on the tree, but he's still the boss. That's a good short term plan. The longer term plan is to find another place to coach, that AD is a moron.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 7, 2017 11:21:20 GMT -6
Syrup, head slaps... I don't do any of that stuff. I'm going to ask for a raise.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 6, 2017 14:57:10 GMT -6
Why not? Are you able to dismiss/replace said coach that demonstrates he doesn't know what he is doing or isn't doing a professional job as a coach? I agree being an offensive analyst isn't in the AD's job description. Isn't that kind of the point of him asking others for input? I do realize my comments are influenced by my situation (which I detailed above) but I have to admit I have mixed feelings on this. I read constantly here about slappy coaches. I bet 5-10% of the threads here mention or refer to some type of slappy coach. Now the best practice would be for the HC to recognize these issues and seek advice/help on his own. But what if that doesn't occur? Say "Oh well... " ? That's a thread for the CoachLuey AD forum. And maybe the CoachDuey principal forum. Gold!!
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 6, 2017 14:47:01 GMT -6
So our team had a bad season this past year, offensively we were really good (especially compared to the school's historical scoring output, we avg 28 a game). Only won 1 game. We have several key players that are saying that are not going to play next year. I know every coach says "we are not going to beg them to play." Being the OC, two of these players are juniors that will be hard(if not impossible) to replace with our crop coming up. I have talked to both players, one seems pretty set on transferring to another school. The other seems set on quitting, because "football just isn't fun anymore." Probably nothing I can do. Probably a pointless post, just airing out frustration. Give them time. The season's a grind on everyone and, at this point, they're probably still burned out. Keep in touch with the kids and focus on building those relationships. If they play other sports, go watch them play there to show your support. See who turns up in the weightroom. You honestly won't be able to gauge anything until the spring, anyway. Then have their friends on the team try and talk any quitters into coming back if you feel they're worth having around. Until then, there's no sense being frustrated. You just made it through a tough year. It sounds like everyone just needs a break. You make some great points. The truth is, if guys (players AND coaches) get their ass handed to them all season most of them are going to re-evaluate when the season is over. Maybe they think about doing it at another school or maybe they consider hanging it up altogether. If a guy is completely okay with a losing season he's probably not doing much to help the program. Guys that are competitive don't want to be part of dumpster fire. If you're going to chase them you might want to tell them why it's going to be different next year. Don't lie to them, though. What actually will be different? Why should they come back? Give them a little time to decompress before you go after them. With the benefit of time, people tend to remember the good and forget the bad.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 6, 2017 12:04:03 GMT -6
I don't think I've ever talked a kid back into playing that ended up being a huge asset. A role player, sure, but nothing that couldn't be replicated with another kid.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 4, 2017 13:31:22 GMT -6
He's either looking to get confirmation that you don't know WTH you're doing so that he can fire you or he's already pulled the trigger in his mind that he's going to fire you and he's giving these other coaches a chance to see your school before he interviews them for your job.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 3, 2017 12:38:44 GMT -6
It works for Lavar Ball.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 2, 2017 15:22:18 GMT -6
I went through this and had some success. If the school or boosters or whoever won't pay for it you're going to have to raise the $$ yourself. You can do car washes & pancake breakfasts and you'll have a new weight room in about 40 years. Or you can make contact with the right people, kiss a lot of backsides, work your tail off and get it done.
Your first step is you you have to know what you want in the way of a weight room. Do your homework -
Design what the building will look like and then what the contents will be.
Determine your wants/needs for the program and make a list of the wants/needs Explain why you want/need each item Explain what it will do for your program, who it will benefit and how many it will benefit Determine what the useful life of the item is Price everything out, get estimates of everything. Have a solid understanding of what it will cost to acquire and cost to install the item
Since this is going to be a school weight room (and not just a "football team" weight room), get the other sports involved. Get them to understand the benefit of the weight room and have them do some of the heavy lifting - i.e., fundraising.
You don't have a building so star looking for a contractor in the area that would be willing to do the work for you. Once it is built you can either raise money to buy equipment or get people/organizations/businesses to donate equipment directly. You can put a plaque up on the wall acknowledging them "This facility was made possible by the generous contribution of Mr. Boneyard." People love that stuff.
I chased foundations and non-profits. One of my angles was that it promoted a healthy lifestyle to children. I got some of our players involved. I kissed a lot of backsides. I spent hundreds of hours and nobody thought I would be successful but we ended up with a kickass weight room that was the envy of most of the programs in our area. We ended up getting over $100,000 in contributions and ended up spending more than that. It can be done but be prepared to really work for it. Treat potential donors like hot girls - work them as hard as you can but when you realize it's not going to happen move on and don't get down about it. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 2, 2017 13:40:04 GMT -6
I was not a great head coach at all. I told them when I resigned I wasn't the right guy for the job and I wish I could have done more to advance the program than I did. That being said I treated the players right and worked my butt off. I am honest enough to know that being a head coach doesn't fit who I am. I don't ever want to be a head coach again but I think I am a pretty darn good assistant coach. This is me, 100%. I actually had a very good W/L record but it was entirely the result of having great kids and a great DC. I took the job as a stopgap but was glad to get out of there, I felt like there was a grizzly bear attached to me and it finally let go when the season was over.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Nov 2, 2017 13:35:35 GMT -6
We have a kid that showed up (limping) to practice two weeks ago and said, "I can't play, doc says I tore my groin muscle." Three days later he won the school's dance competition on spirit day. He's still unable to play football, though.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 30, 2017 14:33:57 GMT -6
Hold on, are you telling me that parents loved you when you were winning but are turning on you now that you're not winning?!? That's just crazy, never heard of such a thing. I kid, but pretend that you were still winning, you logged onto Coachhuey and read your post from another coach. You'd probably think, "Those parents are a bunch of dunces, why is he even listening to him?" and you'd be right.
The knowledgeable parent is an extreme rarity, most parents couldn't fill a shot glass with their football knowledge. And their blinded by their love for little Johnny and their unrealistic expectation that he's going to be the next Tom Brady. I understand being angry/frustrated by it - you feel betrayed because you gave it all you had and they turned on you when things didn't go well. I've been there and it hurts but screw them, you do the best you can for the kids and their parents can go take a sh!t in their hats.
Somebody should make thread "Stupid things parents say." Although I'm not sure this site has the bandwidth for it.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 26, 2017 13:10:01 GMT -6
You can get a folding massage table from Costco for 200 bucks. Maybe pick up one for half that off craigslist. I realize in some programs that might was well be $10,000 (I've been there) but just a thought. They're also helpful to have pup on the sideline when a kid gets hurt. Good luck!
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 26, 2017 13:06:54 GMT -6
There are times to be absolute. For us, this ain't one. The parent meeting handles a great deal.....like "don't approach a coach after a game"......stuff that needs said. But if a kids parents can't make it, or more aptly, refuses to prioritize it, we aren't going to leave that young man off our team. A player can not help if his parents can not attend or doesn't care about their activities. It seems like it would punish the player for having a poor parent. Exactly. Are you going to tell the next Baker Mayfield or Bryce Love to beat it because his parents are morons?
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 26, 2017 9:40:04 GMT -6
Many years ago we lost a nailbiter to our rival. The game was chippy all night. I can honestly say that our guys stayed pretty classy while the other team was pretty thuggish. The opposing fans were riding our kids pretty hard. After the game while the handshake was going on, a kid from their team thought he'd really rub it in by running across the field and then running back & forth in front of our stands waving their school's big 7'x5' flag. We had a freshman tackle that was 6'4", 290 that was the strong silent type. When he saw the kid running around he lost it, was on him before anyone knew it. He ripped the flag out of the kid's hand but the flag waver made the mistake of swinging on him. Our guy cracked him over the head with the flag pole (kid went down like a sack of dirt), snapped it over his knee, threw it on him, spit on him and walked away. I was amazed that it didn't start a freaking riot. There's footage of it on youtube somewhere. That kid went on to play at a SEC school and sniffed the pros but couldn't finish. Fun kid to coach.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 26, 2017 9:24:14 GMT -6
The portable massage tables take up too much space? That's what we use and worse comes to worse, we've strapped it to the roof of a car.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 25, 2017 9:44:31 GMT -6
Some years back I coached for a guy that would have a little social event at the beginning of the season for all players & parents that were new to his program. This wasn't the "parent meeting" where the coach & team mom gave all the expectations/requirements for the year, it was a deal we affectionately referred to as "FNG night". It was held at his or another coach's house, we would feed them, and each parent would stand up with their son and talk about them for a few minutes. They didn't have a script, just tell us about your kid. Initially I hated FNG night but later really saw the value in it because you could learn a lot about a kid and a lot about the parent, just by listening to them talk about their kid. It also really helped build community among the parents. So when a kid that was an important part of the team was missing practices or a game, the other parents would actually pressure the kid's parents to get his act together.
I realize it would be difficult to pull that off in a school with a ton of new kids and there is a risk they could combine their forces for evil but it really worked in that program. By the time they were seniors there was a ton of community and veteran parents would keep new parents in line. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 24, 2017 15:09:09 GMT -6
"Your son is joining something bigger than himself to achieve something great. He will be held accountable by coaches and other players, just as he will hold other players and coaches accountable. You can help your son by assuring that he is at every practice unless there is a family emergency or a significant illness. At times your son will feel overwhelmed but it is part of the process to becoming a good football player...."
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 23, 2017 0:57:12 GMT -6
My senior year in high school we had a teammate get shot and killed just before the season started. We all wore a sticker with his number on the back of our helmets and had his number painted in the grass behind the endzone. We lose a last second close game to our rival, after which about 10-15 of their guys run over stomp on the number and tear it up with their cleats. I can't imagine many more things more disrespectful to happen postgame. There would be blood if that happened on any team I've ever been on or been a part of.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 22, 2017 15:47:28 GMT -6
If a kid can play video games, text his girlfriend, watch tv he doesn't have a concussion. Even if that's true, if the kid isn't cleared by a doctor he doesn't play. I didn't say different. To me, the issue is parents diagnosing their own kids with concussions because of the concussion hysteria. We had it on our team when our star receiver came out of the game and threw up & then complained of a headache. His father immediately pulled him and the kid hasn't been back since. Worth noting that the kid had had the flu the entire week before the game, went to the hospital after the game where they told him he did NOT have a concussion (who has EVER heard of a medical professional saying "You have the flu not a concussion", I imagine their malpractice carrier would go nuts). Still, parents insist he has a concussion. I asked a neurologist client of mine and he said the true test is to put a kid in a dark room for 48 hours - no tv, phone, video games, music, nothing. If the kid is willing to do that he's concussed. If, after a couple hours, or even a day he wants out and to play Call of Duty, he's not concussed. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 20, 2017 8:05:57 GMT -6
Kids take their cues from the coaches. If the coaching staff acts like it's a big deal the kids will too. If the coaches act like it's just another game, all business, the kids will too. The school where I used to coach got smashed by their rival every year. When the new HC and his staff arrived they literally gave no discussion about it. They didn't even say the name of the school. The kids went from thinking, "We're going to get killed" to "We're going to kill them" to "it's business, we'll handle it and move on to the next team on our way to playoffs." They ended up winning the next 6 years straight.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 18, 2017 11:29:03 GMT -6
It's troubling that you're receiving pushback from the parents. If it were me, I'd roll with the players that want to be there, even if we lost 100-0. Even if you make playoffs you won't make any real noise, those kids have quit and don't want to make playoffs. Use the cancers only as a last resort and when it meets the team's goals. If/when cancers change attitude I'd begin working them back in - there has to be some kind of incentive to change their behavior. When the season is over start looking for a new gig.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 17, 2017 14:06:57 GMT -6
I just coached in a 3 OT game and won. What do you want to know? We play NFHS rules but overtime is set up like college. Get the ball at the 25, etc... IME there is no way to prepare for that situation. Comes down to who executes and who wants it more. Scheme wise I will not let their best player beat us.... But that's the same philosophy I have through the entire game. I'd rather hear from a coach that went to single OT and won. I kid, I kid...
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 16, 2017 10:43:50 GMT -6
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 15, 2017 21:43:18 GMT -6
IMO, the only thing that HS & NFL have in common is the sport. Everything else - player capability, motivation, knowledge, opportunity, etc. is different. Comparing the two is an apples & oranges comparison.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 15, 2017 13:41:18 GMT -6
If a kid can play video games, text his girlfriend, watch tv he doesn't have a concussion.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 13, 2017 9:22:40 GMT -6
I had a dad that showed up to most practices and then continued to come to practices the year after his son graduated. He was a single dad and his son moved several states away to go to college, Dad was absolutely lost without him. We made him our videographer and he helped with equipment, he was a great addition.
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