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Post by 50slantstrong on Oct 28, 2017 21:14:11 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out.
Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW.
Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school.
Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that.
This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated?
(Vent over)
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Post by 53 on Oct 28, 2017 21:50:25 GMT -6
Just coach and build relationships with your players. Don’t worry what the dumbasses are doing or saying.
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Post by fantom on Oct 28, 2017 22:23:14 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) Nature of the business in the social media age. All that you can do is the best that you can. |
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Post by nicku on Oct 29, 2017 9:35:55 GMT -6
You know you've had success in the past, and you know the reasons why you are having a tougher road this year. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this if I were you. If they can't realize that your program is just having a small dip and they want to transfer, have "sit downs" with AD, etc...you don't need them or their kids. I highly doubt any discussion that they would have with the higher ups would get what they want. And if it did make an impact, thats not the kind of place you wanna be anyway.
I suggest doing what we do, and reading the message boards for laughs during saturday film sessions. Its free and it never fails to make us laugh.
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Post by insidethestripes on Oct 29, 2017 18:45:20 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) Don't have such thin skin... |
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Post by stilltryin on Oct 29, 2017 19:02:04 GMT -6
Welcome to life in the age of the internet. I'm guessing most of the guys on this forum have experienced similar stuff, right down to the private "trainers" (who tell daddy how great junior is, so when he turns out to be just average, it must be the coaches' fault) and the parent you thought would've known better. Just this morning, there was a story in the paper about Ken Burns, the documentarian, opining that the internet will either bring us down, or the story of the next few decades will be our ability to transcend the ugliness. The trick for us, I think ... easy to say, sometimes hard to do ... is to stay positive, keep inspiring your kids, and guard against coaching "angry."
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 29, 2017 19:26:32 GMT -6
I'm going to drop this here. “A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of sheep.” Like stilltryin says....everyone, now a days, has been through this. Get back to winning and the parents will only talk {censored} behind the scenes...instead of online.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 19:48:51 GMT -6
Been in that position before. Even got thrown under the bus by our own radio announcer for "just running the same three plays over and over" as we were shredding a team for over 550 yards on the ground with our entire starting backfield out.
There have always been idiots out there. Now social media gives them a platform. I don't know if you should completely ignore this stuff, as if they were to come together or get in the right ears something bad could happen, but it's also not something to obsess about. If administration isn't talking about making a coaching change or pressuring you to change your offense or play certain kids, I think you're good.
IMO, focus on navigating through the rough waters and on building those relationships with kids and (hopefully) their parents so that you keep these kinds of corrosive attitudes isolated. When you're just some guy who yells at kids and puts them through drills or criticizes the boys, it's easy for parents to criticize you like they do the coaches on tv. When you're Coach 50slantstrong and they've talked to you, heard their kids say good things about you, and know how much you care about their kids on and off the field and how you're dedicated to making them better, then it's harder to spew hateful BS all over social media.
Not that it won't happen, especially when you're losing... but if there's a lot of this going on it may be a sign of a deeper rift between the players and coaches. The parents shelling out all the money for "private coaches" will always listen to that guy's "expert" opinion over yours--after all, they're paying a lot of money for him, so he must be worth it, right?
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Post by kcbazooka on Oct 30, 2017 6:47:37 GMT -6
Happened to a lot of us . Easy answer is to not read the post, but that's easier said than done. Can be difficult to not take it out on the kid for the parents comments. But that's not usually fair to the kid. Have you thought about meeting with the parents that are doing this and explain if they complain via social media it makes the athletes think it's ok to bash the coaches? Social media can be such a negative thing.
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 30, 2017 7:40:29 GMT -6
Just ignore the fools. All that you will do if you keep reading the posts is pee yourself off and you will say or do something in response that makes you look foolish and fuels to the fire of the fools posting. Best to just ignore the situation, ignore the parents, ignore the chatter and you will be fine
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Post by rudyrude9 on Oct 30, 2017 8:05:52 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) Don't have such thin skin... Bingo! Would you rather be somewhere where 5-4 is acceptable. You've built up the expectations and that is a good thing. |
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Post by s73 on Oct 30, 2017 8:11:33 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) I will share some advice I learned a long time ago from a coach who was more experienced & wiser than myself. I made the same complaint to him & he said the following to me: If you were walking down the sidewalk and you noticed a big steamy pile of chit laying there would you stop and talk to it? Would you ever even give it a 2nd thought at all whatsoever? I said no. He said, then why do you give a single parent a 2nd thought? I think you can see the correlation he was trying to make. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 30, 2017 8:19:40 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) I will share some advice I learned a long time ago from a coach who was more experienced & wiser than myself. I made the same complaint to him & he said the following to me: If you were walking down the sidewalk and you noticed a big steamy pile of chit laying there would you stop and talk to it? Would you ever even give it a 2nd thought at all whatsoever? I said no. He said, then why do you give a single parent a 2nd thought? I think you can see the correlation he was trying to make. While I like the analogy, if that pile was at your front door or in your yard or it will be stepped on and possibly brought into your house, what now? But my advice is still to ignore the message boards. |
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Post by s73 on Oct 30, 2017 8:35:18 GMT -6
I will share some advice I learned a long time ago from a coach who was more experienced & wiser than myself. I made the same complaint to him & he said the following to me: If you were walking down the sidewalk and you noticed a big steamy pile of chit laying there would you stop and talk to it? Would you ever even give it a 2nd thought at all whatsoever? I said no. He said, then why do you give a single parent a 2nd thought? I think you can see the correlation he was trying to make. While I like the analogy, if that pile was at your front door or in your yard or it will be stepped on and possibly brought into your house, what now? But my advice is still to ignore the message boards. Coach, All I can say is in my current position I am a Dean at our HS and 90% of all our current discipline involves social media and can easily be avoided by avoiding social media. I follow the same advice I give to kids. Stay off of it or block the people you are having a problem with. The few times someone brings it to my attention (when someone tells me without me inquiring) I generally try to be dismissive. I did confront one parent this season only b/c he works in my building and he has been doing this for sometime now. He ran and hid like the coward I knew he was. The only reason I confronted him was b/c he would make subtle off handed remarks to me while pretending to be supportive & my own pride got in the way as I wanted him to know I knew what he was doing. Do I regret it? No. Why? He no longer talks to me & I consider that a blessing. Otherwise, I am slowly learning not to give these idiots the time of day & it's very liberating. |
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Post by tigerscoachbuck on Oct 30, 2017 8:45:52 GMT -6
Facts of Life
Players play, Coaches coach, parents complain.
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Post by klaby on Oct 30, 2017 8:50:06 GMT -6
Tell your coaches and your players to ignore the noise. Hold a meeting, and say point blank, "if they are not in this room, they don't matter".
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 30, 2017 14:33:57 GMT -6
Hold on, are you telling me that parents loved you when you were winning but are turning on you now that you're not winning?!? That's just crazy, never heard of such a thing. I kid, but pretend that you were still winning, you logged onto Coachhuey and read your post from another coach. You'd probably think, "Those parents are a bunch of dunces, why is he even listening to him?" and you'd be right.
The knowledgeable parent is an extreme rarity, most parents couldn't fill a shot glass with their football knowledge. And their blinded by their love for little Johnny and their unrealistic expectation that he's going to be the next Tom Brady. I understand being angry/frustrated by it - you feel betrayed because you gave it all you had and they turned on you when things didn't go well. I've been there and it hurts but screw them, you do the best you can for the kids and their parents can go take a sh!t in their hats.
Somebody should make thread "Stupid things parents say." Although I'm not sure this site has the bandwidth for it.
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Post by chidesta on Oct 30, 2017 15:15:36 GMT -6
Summarizing our program - very talented in 15 and 16 and won our league. We graduated most of that talent and have started underclassmen at almost every position this season on top of having 10 new starters on D and 9 on O. It has been evident as we are 5-4 and eliminated from winning our league. Several of our parents can’t accept it. 3 really stand out. Parent 1 - son graduated three years ago and he used to be friendly with us. He frequently posts on a local message board about the program and how incredible all of our players supposedly are. Up until this season everything was positive about the coaching. Even to this day, he tries to say our players are great, however he is now calling out our coaching. He has stated the DC has no idea what he’s doing and our OL coach is only allowed on staff because we want his son to come to the school. He went so far as to post a picture of the OL coach and say that his son is a “pansy”. He’s in the 8th grade BTW. Parent 2 - son is a stud sophomore. Dad shopped him around while he was in middle school. He takes his son to some local training specialist blowhard whose claim to fame was making the Washington Redskins practice squad for a half season and parades clients around like he’s the reason why they have scholarship offers. Dad is on same message board as parent 1. The majority of his content is about how good his son is and how amazing his trainer is. However he’s turned on the staff lately, saying that our defense is a “pop warner” defense and we don’t know how to coach a “real defense”. He stayed on the board he’s going to “have a sit down with the principal and AD and discuss the state of the program”. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t transfer his son out of the school. Parent 3 - has had two sons graduate from the program and has another on the freshman team. She has been very supportive in the past despite her sons hardly getting playing time. However she has recently blasted us on the school’s Facebook page, saying that our playbook is “straight from Madden”. I’ve heard ignorant things like that a bunch but she’d be one of the last I’d think to say that. This will be the first time since 2013 we don’t finish ranked top 10 in the division and this is how we’re treated? (Vent over) Coach like everyone said you just gotta take the good with the bad. The only incident I would address is the first one and not because of you or your other coaches, but because it affects an 8th grade student. We had a similar thing happen and I brought the parent in, sat down with him and the Principal and AD and talked about not putting up pictures of coaches and trashing/bullying Students. We didn't make it about us as coaches, but as concerned citizens for students and he stopped posting about us all together, not sure if that will happen in your case, but he really shouldn't be trashing a little 8th grade kid. |
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Post by coachcb on Oct 30, 2017 15:28:40 GMT -6
Lol... We just went through an incredibly bad season so I stayed away from the message boards and online news articles/commentary. But, I have enjoyed popping in during other seasons and reading what folks have to say. Some of the crap that comes up is a riot.
One year, we'd just got done trouncing a team in the first round of the play-offs. We gave up fourteen points and seven of those were off of a pick-six. One dad started talking about how awful our zone defense because we gave up some yardage through the air (we let them throw the short stuff and rallied to it). He proceeded to rant and rave about how man-man was superior and our zone defense wasn't "aggressive enough". He then went on to say that we needed to "go with a five man front, get pressure and stop that QB!". He had a whole bandwagon is idiots following him on that one.
I could cite more examples but it's just the nature of coaching.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Oct 30, 2017 15:42:41 GMT -6
You guys are all correct. I've ignored it or stowed it away in my brain for the most part. I think the one that really got me was the ish about our OL coach and harassing our JV coaches, most of whom aren't drinking age.
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Post by chidesta on Oct 30, 2017 15:43:19 GMT -6
We had a guy a couple of years ago go off in an email to me, our AD and our Principal about how we didn't game plan well and had no answer for the other teams DT, who ended up playing D1. The issue is his kid played LG and was over that dude all night. So what he is saying is my kid can't block that kid.
But anyway we DBled the DT on Outside Veer to him with this parent's son and another kid and the DT just blew up the DBL, well to be exact the DT would just blow up the LG and throw him back into the QB.
We ran Midline at the DT, but our LG would just sit there and pee himself and not step inside to block the MIKE.
We tried to have the kid cut block the DT on runs away and he would just fall over, not even into the gap. That one bugged me the most, because we worked specifically with this kid on cut blocks in prep for the DT.
So our answer at half time was to replace this kid with a Sophomore, who did just fine. So I wrote back, "Thanks for the advise and you are correct we didn't have any answers for their player in the first half, however we fixed our game planning issues with solid second halftime adjustments."
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Post by blb on Oct 30, 2017 16:20:03 GMT -6
I have sat in the stands at playoff games after our team was eliminated and heard "fans" trash coaches with unbelievable records.
It doesn't matter how much you win or even how, you will always have detractors.
It's just part of the job.
And you will never change their minds regardless what you say or do.
So don't bother trying.
Do what you believe in to the best of your ability, and if that's not good enough, like Grandma said:
"Piss on it!"
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Post by freezeoption on Oct 30, 2017 18:36:38 GMT -6
After a couple of gts, I again say it is part of the job, but I would be slow to play their children.
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 31, 2017 7:36:25 GMT -6
in one of the all time great eff you's to parents, an old coach that was really just working to keep his retirement numbers up, was dealing with parents on social media complaining that their senior sons were being benched for younger players, so midway through season he just started all the seniors, regardless of ability. Dropped almost all of the underclassmen to JV. Probably set the program back a few years, not a recommended move by any means, but he did claim to enjoy those parents faces when their senior sons were out there getting their heads beat in.
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 31, 2017 8:29:24 GMT -6
I have a close relationship with one of the winningest coaches in Texas High School football who has won multiple state titles. I asked him about detractors. He said you will always have them, and when you are winning they will be in the shadows. When you are losing they are going to look for a platform. He says he took a proactive stance with them, meeting with the parents, booster club, and community and told them negative talk, regardless of how bad things were on the field, would make things worse. He told them it was akin to being a traitor to their kids. He explained to them that being positive and unified strengthened the program and would help us win more games. He said it resonated with most and helped to minimize some of the talk. He said you will still have some negative people, but you must block them out and focus on the program. He also said he reminded the kids to avoid the negativity.
One thing we did at the last school I was at was had the dads and booster club in at 9am to watch film with the coordinators for a half hour on Saturday. They would cook breakfast for the kids, and while the kids lifted, myself and the DC would watch film with them. We would watch about 15 plays on each side of the ball. We never blasted a kid for a mistake and kept things very positive. We would explain why we made a certain call, and what was supposed to happen. The dads enjoyed it, and it gave them a different perspective on the game. Some of the dads would watch practice, and we would mention how a drill we did correlated to what we were doing on the field. They would ask questions about why we called a certain play at times, and I enjoyed explaining to them what we were doing and why. While it took 30 minutes away from our Saturday work, I found it very beneficial. There was never anything negative that came out of it.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 31, 2017 8:58:41 GMT -6
I have sat in the stands at playoff games after our team was eliminated and heard "fans" trash coaches with unbelievable records. It doesn't matter how much you win or even how, you will always have detractors. It's just part of the job. And you will never change their minds regardless what you say or do. So don't bother trying. Do what you believe in to the best of your ability, and if that's not good enough, like Grandma said: "Piss on it!" I think duece posted on here once that he went to an Alabama game and there were some fans in the stands beeching about Saban.... |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 31, 2017 10:02:45 GMT -6
I have sat in the stands at playoff games after our team was eliminated and heard "fans" trash coaches with unbelievable records. It doesn't matter how much you win or even how, you will always have detractors. It's just part of the job. And you will never change their minds regardless what you say or do. So don't bother trying. Do what you believe in to the best of your ability, and if that's not good enough, like Grandma said: "Piss on it!" I think duece posted on here once that he went to an Alabama game and there were some fans in the stands beeching about Saban.... We all make stupid calls. We all have complained about a call. Everyone of us. It is human nature. Saban has made dumb calls. I am sure I have watched a Bama game and thought that was stupid or they should do something different there. Pro games, college, high school. Anyone would be lying if they said differently. If everyone on this thread hung out and watched a game together, you know we would critique things. And that isn't bad. I am constantly critique what I do! If I make a bad call, trust me, I am the first to say that was stupid. Now, that is different than being negative or getting online and bashing a high school coach. But I am just saying that it is human nature. |
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Post by fantom on Oct 31, 2017 10:03:59 GMT -6
To keep perspective about parents and fans try to look at yourself when you're watching a college or pro team. When I watch the Packers I'm just another fan. If they run a jet sweep that gets stuffed on 4th and goal, I'm just as likely to scream at the TV as anybody. I haven't watched one second of film or really know the tendencies or personnel of either team but, in the moment as a fan, all that matters is that I'm pi$$ed that they didn't score.
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Post by joelee on Oct 31, 2017 10:04:39 GMT -6
My wife had to listen to fans in the stands b**** about my play-calling in a state championship game where we scored 56 points!
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Post by carookie on Oct 31, 2017 10:28:51 GMT -6
I am one to always tell my players that "the moon doesn't go howling at the dogs"; but I think there is some validity to being concerned in cases like these.
Unlike the Saban comments posted above there is a material difference between the situation that most of us are in and that of Nick Saban. I doubt all those fans on message boards or in the stands can meet with Saban's bosses, and may have sway over him maintaining his job; whereas HS parents can quite easily meet directly with a HS AD/Principal. In addition, most of those complaining about him are just fans, not the parents of his players. Also, I don't think most of us are currently running a program that generates the type of revenue his does (even relatively speaking).
Truth is, a couple of squeaky wheels at many HS programs can cause a lot of change to a coaches career/pocketbook. I am not writing this because I have the answer, rather to point out that simply ignoring it may not always work- we are not all above the fray enough that we are afforded the opportunity to allow our detractors to gain steam.
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