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Post by spartandefense on Jun 22, 2015 13:36:53 GMT -6
Feeder programs as a great way to start. Why not allow free attendance for all Middle school kids with Student ID.
I have thought a lot about this but have never been a HC so take this with a grain of salt. Kids want to be part of something exciting. They have short attention spans. Football is the only sport where you practice about 90% of the time and play 10% of the time. That 10% better be something kids want to be a part of. Competing with basketball is tough because these coaches play 20-30 games in the summer and it is more fun that summer football. Even practice is more game like in hoops.
Winning helps this immensely but what if you don't have that yet? I would take the minor league baseball approach. Make the games as fun as possible. Yes this is a huge work load to add. Meet with the administration and the activities director. Organize rallies. Have Give aways. People love free stuff. Shoot low quality free tee shirts into the stands at half time. Play hip hop before the game and at half time. Have "athlete" nights where you honor the other sports teams and their accomplishments.
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 4, 2015 23:18:57 GMT -6
As I understand it, just Cover 3 with spot drop coverage. This is correct. Its a term coined by Nick Saban because when he was with the Browns he couldn't run cover 3 as it has been run for 50 years at the HS level because it didn't work against DAN Fing Marino nor does it work against the offenses he sees in the SEC. Since we all face Marino Clones week in and out according to the clinic gurus you can't run cover 3 in HS.
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 4, 2015 12:29:07 GMT -6
"play fast" - what team wants to play slow?
"multiple" - blitzes, fronts, coverages. Allegedly no team aside from De La Salle has the ability or players to just play base defense nowadays.
"wrestler type" - does every DC go to the wrestling room to get their nose guards?
"Country Cover-3" I guess you need to be in the middle of nowhere to run Cover 3. Or we coach against the same offenses Saban sees week in and week out.
"Compete" Somehow playing and practicing a sport isn't competition. You need to add artificial competitions on top of the competition you are practicing.
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Post by spartandefense on May 21, 2015 12:00:42 GMT -6
we have a rough future when it comes to linemen. we are at a point where the frosh and soph class have maybe 3 linemen between them and the biggest one doesn't lift weights because dad thinks hes a pro baseball prospect. our baseball coach says "hes kinda outta shape" more or less. so Ill let you know what magic comes up. Next time you have a baseball kid or dad or coach that doesn't want to lift, show them this: Funny. I have sent that exact same video to players that use the "my baseball trainer/coach" doesn't want me lifting.
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Post by spartandefense on May 14, 2015 14:26:02 GMT -6
I have a question for the offensive guys (rocro judging by your responses you are one of them), why install plays or an offense just for 7on7. Especially the Wing T guys. I cant tell you how many times I have seen Wing T teams run the spread in 7on7. Why waste practice time on that for 7on7?
One time we played a really good split back veer team in 7on7 in pool play and shut them out. We play them in the championship and the coaches had drawn cards with spread plays on them. It was bizarre.
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Post by spartandefense on May 13, 2015 12:29:49 GMT -6
Most annoying things I have seen in 7v7s:
1. Offensive guy who puts the ball in the middle of the field every play in 7on7. Hey buddy I know that makes all your 2 X 2 spread plays look nice and spaced perfectly but the ball is almost never in the middle of the field in HS.
2. 2 X 2 spread guy who runs double smash and runs his fastest player (usually a wideout he has subbed in just for this purpose) right up the middle of the field against 2 shell coverage.
3. This is the absolute worst, 2 platoon hurry up spread guy who has his offense lined up while his defense is defending our offense. The second we stop them or score he runs a play. This guy also had the crumpled 3 X 5 note sheet a la mike leach. ok buddy.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 5, 2015 20:06:09 GMT -6
We actually had out CBs do they bail tech in the funnel drill like they would against a WR. Your guys get a ton of reps and you keep the match ups with similar guys and in their normal stances.
We had coaches at every level coaching their position groups.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 4, 2015 16:41:32 GMT -6
Try the Funnel Drill. More reps three levels which makes for easier position coaching with more individualized locations and stances, and you also get a little pursuit angle thrown in. We started doing it for pre game. Quick whistle never had an injury.
I think 1 on 1 Oklahoma w/Rb is about as much contact as you need. when you have 2 on 2 with LB and RB you get the biggest collisions.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 25, 2015 12:59:53 GMT -6
Personal Story:
We had kid two years ago, great athlete, moderate skill. Cannot change direction that well, and cannot track the football in the air. Ran a 10.95 hundred meters. All of 6'3, big frame. His dad played D1 ball at 275lbs. His jr yr he starts at corner gets burned multiple times and isn't even a starter. I tell him his SR year you are a great athlete I am going to move you to rush end in the 4-2-5, you have no gap responsibility just make plays. Our league is 75% Run btw and no one throws the ball.
He goes to the Oregon camp, and one guy ONE GUY - who isn't a coach, tells him he would make a great press corner with his height. Sure enough he spends entire summer with personal trainer doing CB drills. His dad calls the HC weekly telling him we are screwing him by not playing him at corner blah blah. We base out of robber coverage and he would be a deep half player if he was corner. We don't even run a ton of press man.
We get to game 1. My family is in the stands. They happen to be sitting next to his dad who is telling everyone within ear shot that I (the DC) am screwing his son and he should be playing corner not DE.
That game he played little over a half because we blew them out.
Stats (1 half): 5 tackles, 3 TFL, 2 hurries, 2 sacks, and 1 forced fumble.
He now at a D1 school and he is not playing corner.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 19, 2015 13:03:51 GMT -6
Interesting side note to this whole discussion. Junior Seau, probably the poster example used by the media for CTE, has two nephews who are playing D1 Ball.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 17, 2015 21:56:02 GMT -6
I agree with a lot of the points made.
The NFL and College levels had made adjustments to make the game safer. I know at the HS level I see coaches teaching tackling without pads or with bags. I also see tackling progressions taught.
The original title referenced youth football. This where is where our most vulnerable players are and they need to be protected. Why not institute limits on contact, force coaches to take classes on safety, limit size differentials, and limit the separation between players in tackling drills etc. If they guys on FNT who have cameras on them all the time have no adjusted their drills in the face of media outcry and the CTE hysteria, then some of this stuff has to be legislated to force them to chance.
I think we all need to recognize that we are 1 major lawsuit away from losing football at the HS or Youth level. Its time to be proactive. Why should we wait for hard evidence. We all know that banging kids with 10 yd head starts into each other is not a good way to teach the game. We also know for sure our youngest players should be protected the most and the coaching at those levels is the worst with regards to safety.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 17, 2015 17:30:19 GMT -6
Just curious as to how many guys on here have actually coached youth football or pop warner?
My experience helping out a youth football team (and I am not in texas or in a football crazy area) was very close to Friday Night Tykes minus all the glitz and glamor. In fact we did the exact same drills that I see them doing - especially the two lines creating a tunnel to hit from a 10 yard head start.
Why would anyone want the least educated and least experienced coaches coaching our most vulnerable football players is beyond me. Why do we have contact rules and time limits for adults and we don't for youth football?
I am a DC in HS and we hit WAY less than what I saw in pop warner. I never once saw tackling of bags, form tackling progressions, or thud.
If you don't think that Friday Night Tykes is representative, ask your self this: If the cameras weren't around what would be going on? My guess is much worse.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 12, 2015 20:52:45 GMT -6
Best Speakers I have seen: 1. Larry Johnson - OSU (great passion, good technique, has great drills) 1b Tosh Lupoi - Bama (best Dline technique guy I have ever seen). Concise presenter. 1c Bret Vieselma - used to be HC of Valor Christian Worst 1. Lenny R - Starts clinic talk off a bunch of F bombs. Some guys leave, as they are leaving calls them wussies etc. Throws up some slides - no Scheme, no intro, and states "you wanna stuff guys run theseb blitzes" and just stands there smiling. The fact that this dude has been a D1 DC is crazy. Honorable Mention - RS and JC. Serious guys why are people buying what these two are selling? Gang Green 4-2-5? How about 50 alignment. Other times he gives presentations about building programs. Come on. JC runs every front known to man. Never discusses how kids can learn this or the reads. And coaches JV. Ok. You have peeked my intrest. Who is Lenny R? I wanna go see this guy now. He is the former d c of New Mexico under Rocky Long. And I was under stating how much of a cocky jerk this guy was. Wussies was the p g version of what he called the guys who were offended by his f bomb intro.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 12, 2015 14:35:35 GMT -6
Best Speakers I have seen:
1. Larry Johnson - OSU (great passion, good technique, has great drills) 1b Tosh Lupoi - Bama (best Dline technique guy I have ever seen). Concise presenter. 1c Bret Vieselma - used to be HC of Valor Christian
Worst
1. Lenny R - Starts clinic talk off a bunch of F bombs. Some guys leave, as they are leaving calls them wussies etc. Throws up some slides - no Scheme, no intro, and states "you wanna stuff guys run theseb blitzes" and just stands there smiling. The fact that this dude has been a D1 DC is crazy.
Honorable Mention - RS and JC. Serious guys why are people buying what these two are selling? Gang Green 4-2-5? How about 50 alignment. Other times he gives presentations about building programs. Come on. JC runs every front known to man. Never discusses how kids can learn this or the reads. And coaches JV. Ok.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 5, 2015 16:03:54 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. Does anyone actually think anyone besides internet coaching geeks (and I say that as a term of endearment) like us are viewing that film? You think Nick Saban watches film off Jim Light Football? I visited a college who shall remain nameless who was playing auburn this yr. They had every film Malzahn has been the HC or OC from. And no they were not an SEC school, and no they didn't download it from that site or youtube.
What is even more ridiculous about this situation is Malzahn was a HS guy who allegedly originally copied the Wing T word for word from the Raymond Book. Lucky for him Raymond shared what he did with the outside world.
The reason football is the greatest game and evolves so quickly is the sharing of information. Maybe we should be like baseball where the same old adages held for 100 yrs.
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Post by spartandefense on Dec 22, 2014 15:18:00 GMT -6
We have had a bye the first week the past two years. It has worked out pretty well for us. In the past we have really struggled with practice attendance and interest during the bye weeks - we are a lower socio economic school and struggle in general with commitment. IF you are in this situation it is a no brainer.
Advantages: Having a bye first week allows you a little more time to install/practice special teams. We don't feel as pressed for time during camp and use this week to really emphasize it. Major advantage scouting. Your coaches get to see the teams early on your schedule live and in person. We were able to schedule a joint practice with a team that played in a showcase (check to see if this is legal in your section). This essentially gave us two scrimmages.
Major Disadvantage: Our kids have played poorly in the first half against teams that have had a full game under their belt. It takes them a while to adjust.
One more and this is personal (I didn't hear other coaches mention it), playing 10 or more straight weeks is a grind from a film study and prep standpoint.
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Post by spartandefense on Sept 10, 2014 16:45:29 GMT -6
Hitting each other endlessly is not intensity. Yelling is not intensity. Oklahoma drills should be done early in camp not every day during the season.
Intensity is generated by making things very competitive, eliminating long breaks (have kids move from drill to dril quickly), eliminating team teaching periods (nothing kills energy like one coach talking alignment to one guy while 40 guys stand around), and hustling. It makes practices shorter, you get more done, and it gets everyone involved.
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 3, 2014 15:02:30 GMT -6
One question I have for the teams with 50-100 players is how do you practice? I get it in college you have exclusive Offensive and Denfesive players and need a scout for both simulateously - plus specialists.
I absolutely hate guys just standing around, and it becomes a distraction. If I am 80-100 I probably not even getting scout team reps, so I would be tempted to talk goof off whatever.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 7, 2014 14:04:07 GMT -6
Anyone know anything about the butte college DC? 4-2-5 talk.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 4, 2014 18:35:46 GMT -6
I am a defensive guy but the Pre-practice run by most air raid teams seems like a great way to get guys used to catching balls and get loose.
We do "settle and noose" and "pat and go" and they seem to work well to get everyone loosened up.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 4, 2014 14:51:21 GMT -6
I am actually very surprised by the answers on this thread.
As a DC, I expect all basic reads, calls, checks, and alignments to be taught and discussed in pre-practice in position groups. That way we don't need to the whole 50 guys stand around install or checks routine. Kids concentrate much better in small groups.
We also do our run reads (at a very light pace) in pre-practice and there is nothing more critical to defensive football than reading your keys.
Pre practice to me is one of the most valuable periods!
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