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Post by spartandefense on Jan 4, 2018 13:19:33 GMT -6
Your Quote:
"What's even crazier is that Saban, Venables, Smart, and Don Brown are on an entirely different level than he is."
We are all making the assumption that you think that these 4 guys are better schematically than Patterson. Your main argument was how they handle crossers and Saban and Smart have more options (btw Georgia got torched on crossers in the 1st half of the rose bowl). By your logic I could say Patterson is a better coach because his blitz wrist band system can bring close to 120 different movements and pressures.
I believe Saban has a great system and is a great defensive coach. He has done it at multiple stops with varying talent levels. Kirby Smart? He has done it at Bama and Georgia. Both schools have top 5 talent in the nation. Venables? His defenses got a lot more dominant when he got to Clemson. I am not familiar with Brown so I won't comment.
I was at the Peach bowl in person last yr to see Bama play live. You know when I knew Washington was in trouble? When their corner could handle John Ross 1v1. Everyone else in the nation had to double him. Bama just loaded the box and the game was over. You know when I knew Clemson was in trouble on Monday? When Bama could run 2 man and still stop Clemson's run game. Awesome job getting into those defenses -and they are coached up fundamentally, but tell me how often you as a DC can run 2 man and stop and dominant spread running team with elite talent. To me it's my 4th string LB is an army all american and therefore I can not be gap sound and still stop you.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 3, 2018 14:38:41 GMT -6
The only different level Saban, Venables, and Smart are on is having WAY better players than Patterson does. Patterson has developed the most elegant and flexible way to call a defense. His language, wristband system, split field / divorced front ability to control the entire field with limited teaching is borderline genius. He also has done way more with less than any of the guys mentioned above. I'd agree they get better athletes. Patterson is a really good college coach. Saban and them are schematically on an NFL level though. Maybe I was watching a different game than you. Here is what i saw in the Rose Bowl. Kirby Smart comes out in the 3-4 runs all sorts of coverages, fronts, looks (very NFLish and half the time they weren't gap sound). GETS TORCHED way worse than TCU did in their 2 games in a half of football. Second Half adjustment: 4-2 Box / Man Free with some 3 match thrown in. Which is code for "my guys are better than yours." 3rd Qtr they completely shut down OU. That isn't NFL scheming and no it wasn't because they have some crosser matchup scheme that Patterson isn't aware of.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 3, 2018 12:29:32 GMT -6
Patterson talked circles around those guys What's even crazier is that Saban, Venables, Smart, and Don Brown are on an entirely different level than he is. The only different level Saban, Venables, and Smart are on is having WAY better players than Patterson does. Patterson has developed the most elegant and flexible way to call a defense. His language, wristband system, split field / divorced front ability to control the entire field with limited teaching is borderline genius. He also has done way more with less than any of the guys mentioned above.
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Post by spartandefense on Sept 6, 2016 16:07:59 GMT -6
Easy way to tell if they are really trying to pull one over is to google their hudl account or check the linked maxpreps highlights. . See if the kids highlights have the same zoom. I know one team in my old league had two filmers. They had professional equipment set up but always sent film that was clearly done on an iPad. No idea why someone would go thru the trouble but it's easy to prove and call them out in a league meeting.
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Cramps
Aug 30, 2016 10:43:10 GMT -6
Post by spartandefense on Aug 30, 2016 10:43:10 GMT -6
Anyone tried Pedialyte packs (mix with water)?
We had 10 guys cramp last Friday. Never seen anything like it.
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Post by spartandefense on May 4, 2016 16:57:11 GMT -6
Precise V7 Blue and Red.
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Post by spartandefense on May 4, 2016 14:24:29 GMT -6
From DLS,
If the kid says he can't work out with the team because of a job ask the player for the boss's phone number so you can call and work something out. 9/10 they were lying and won't give you the number. Same goes for this personal trainer stuff.
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Post by spartandefense on May 2, 2016 14:06:25 GMT -6
In my experience it takes about 2.5 years to completely change the culture and see the benefits of a sound weights program.
Few things I have tried:
1. Call football meeting at lunch. Post weight room results. Then bring in pizza and Gatorades. Call out names of who gets to eat and who doesn't based on weight room effort.
2. Identify your two deep. Have position coaches call, tweet, email whatever to get the kids that will make a different to show in the weight room. Each coach should only need to chase around 3-5 players in that case.
3. The second an incoming frosh sets foot on your campus get him signed up and in the system for your weights program.
4. Convince lower level coaches to give up practice time to teach IN SEASON lifting.
5. Post weight room top 10s for every lift on the door of the weightroom (this way the rest of the school sees it as well). When a kid enters the top 10 or moves up make a big deal about it.
My experience is bad teams issues usually start in the weight room. Be prepared to coach the weightroom as hard as you coach practice. Never assume kids will put the correct weight on the bars or that they will complete their lifts. The days of just opening the door and counting guy is over.
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Post by spartandefense on May 2, 2016 13:56:47 GMT -6
This may sound silly, but I know it would have helped me personally as a player in a weak program if any of the new coaches (4 coaches 4 years) would have ever sat down and showed us just how weak we were and explained to us how hard other teams were working. As part of a losing program, we really had no clue that it was because we didn't have an off season lifting program, that we didn't work as hard as other programs, that we didn't advantage of opportunities to get better etc. This is coming from someone who was "advanced" enough in football to make all the defensive adjustments and audible calls as an OG/OT / OLB/DE. I put the safeties where they belonged, I made the offensive audible calls, I coached in the program the next season etc. I "knew" football, was president of the Honor Society, graduated with appoints to 2 Academies yet honestly had no clue why we sucked. Now looking back it would have been so simple. This. My exact experience in HS. I had zero clue why we were so terrible (and am still learning what it takes). My coaching career has been based around the fact that I almost want to write the wrongs of the staff i played for. They didn't give sH!t.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 28, 2016 11:50:41 GMT -6
I am not sure why this is a surprise. We are talking about a state (washington) that does not produce a ton of D1 talent overall (24 D1 players / yr). What is the probability that the town of Bellvue with a public school enrollment of 1,500 has that many division football players cycling thru it.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 24, 2016 19:18:38 GMT -6
Casey Taylor, Del Oro High. What they accomplished this yr is nothing short of remarkable.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 22, 2016 13:17:24 GMT -6
I have told this story before on this site. Worst speaker ever:
Lenny R - Starts clinic talk off a bunch of F bombs. Some guys get offended and leave, as they are leaving calls them Pu$$ies etc. Throws up some slides - no Scheme, no intro, and states "you wanna stuff guys run these blitzes" and just stands there smiling. The fact that this dude has been a D1 DC is crazy.
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Post by spartandefense on Apr 12, 2016 22:08:25 GMT -6
This brings up an interesting question.
At the last program I was at the HC did not believe that strength and weights was the cornerstone of a good program (i was the DC and tried to covey to him that this was the reason we struggled to tackle). He simply refused to take roll, get on kids about not showing up in the offseason etc. When it came down to playing guys, he played the guys who had the most talent even though they didn't work hard in the off season. It used to drive me bananas.
I always wondered is this guy lazy? Then I came to conclusion that back in the day when he played and first started coaching weights and off season training was not year round. And maybe since that is how he was brought up then maybe he incapable of changing. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 27, 2016 20:42:12 GMT -6
I used to coach against a team that would use two cameras. 1. Film Exchange - Super low resolution bad angle (borderline sideline) 2. Their own film - high res etc. I always suspected it, but could never prove it until i saw them setting both up above the press box. One camera looked like one you see at a NFL game. The best way to confirm this if you suspect it is to compare the film exchange versus their Hudl player highlights.
Bad story. My first year I coached for a guy who would do anything to get an edge. We committed to play at a school 5 hours away game 1 and he didn't send the scout film until wednesday the week of the game. HE Kept claiming he put it in the mail and it got lost. Well we took the bus ride down there and they absolutely bodybagged us. Up 50 they still have their starters in and jammed power down our throats. I still suspect that they did it because of what our HC tried to pull with the film.
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Post by spartandefense on Mar 6, 2016 17:08:35 GMT -6
This is not new and also is in no way surprising, and it is arguably an even more obvious threat to youth player safety than a lot of football collisions. Yes, the ball weighs approx 1 lb, but as we all learned in elementary school science, force = mass x velocity (plus factoring in the velocity of the player's head/body moving towards the ball). Not to be a know it all but it is F = ma. a = acceleration.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 10, 2016 20:07:52 GMT -6
Questions I want to pose on this topic: 1. Are there any out there who went away from live tackling, but then went back to it? I've heard/seen a lot of teams go away from live tackling and say it didn't effect their tackling, but made them fresher. Anybody have an adverse situation? 2. How would you look to improve team tackling without going live? I understand that you can improve your angles, technique, fundamentals, etc. but to me that equates to the kid who can drain 3-pointers in an empty gym, but can't get a shot off in a game because he doesn't practice it at game speed and his shot is too slow and doesn't translate to the live game. 3. I'm sure many people will say you get all of this by going "thud." I have 2 problems/questions with thud. How do you keep the kids competitive with it? "Thud" turns to "crud" very quickly in our practices. Second, do you expect your smaller tacklers to go "thud" against bigger ball carriers? I would never want my 150 lb Corner thudding our 190 lb FB or even our 170 lb RB, he'll get destroyed. To me it gives him bad habits. Thoughts? In my experience tackling is a 1. Desire and 2. How well your kids perform in the weight room (in the off season and IN SEASON). I have been part of teams that tackled every day in practice and had tackling circuits and we never improved our tackling. We met with coaches from all levels and nothing seemed to work. The biggest reason was our kids didn't lift in the offseason or if we had kids that did, they didn't lift in season because it was not made a priority by the HC. The school I am now has a Strength coach and we never practice tackling. We did one circuit in camp. That's it.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 9, 2016 12:43:42 GMT -6
I coach with a guy who has coached in the NFL. We are seldom in full gear once the season starts. In fact two weeks out of the year we didnt wear pads at all (weeks 5 and 9). I thought he was nuts.
1. We beat a top ten 10 in the state that runs the DW WITHOUT practicing in pads.
2. We lost to a state runner up and held them to their second lowest point total not practicing in pads. And this was a Stanford Type power team.
(this went against everything i believed in as a defensive coach btw and when he first proposed it I couldn't sleep at night lol)
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 8, 2016 17:19:10 GMT -6
3. When the pressure is at it's highest levels true character is revealed. Cam had bad body language all game. This is why NFL guys do their detective work. Cam stole at florida, lied about it, and cheated academically (not once but three times). When he got banished to JC level rather than making 100% sure he wasn't going to do anything or be around anyone sketchy, his Dad shops him around for cash. And when my hometown boy and two time opponent Peyton manning has bad body language.... And when NFL poster boy Tom Brady has Bad Body Language? I don't see either of those two guys with bad body language on the Actual field. And after every drive for an entire game. I didn't see him trying to motivate his teammates at all. That last drive CAM shut it down. I won't even get into the fumble.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 8, 2016 16:52:44 GMT -6
My three takes from SB50.
1. Carolina found out what a lot of us are finding out. If you run the spread the double eagle look (ala Va tech last yr against the buckeyes) is a b!tch to block zone against.
2. Man free is great way to combat zone read, rpos, and the wr screen game.
3. When the pressure is at it's highest levels true character is revealed. Cam had bad body language all game. This is why NFL guys do their detective work. Cam stole at florida, lied about it, and cheated academically (not once but three times). When he got banished to JC level rather than making 100% sure he wasn't going to do anything or be around anyone sketchy, his Dad shops him around for cash.
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Post by spartandefense on Feb 2, 2016 14:07:22 GMT -6
For those of you who don't have weight room first, have you ever coached at a place where kids don't lift (and play teams that do) or eat properly?
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 29, 2016 12:50:09 GMT -6
Few Ideas:
Film should be 10-15 mins (as previously mentioned). After that kids lose focus.
Make play lists in hudl. Top 5 Runs, Top 3 Passes. Tricks. Funky formations. Keep it simple. Encourage them to watch on their own time. If they aren't give out gatorates to kids that do. This is easy to track on hudl.
Film practice. Ipads work great for this. We have injured kid stand behind Offense and one kid in stands. I would say seeing your kids screw up reads or fits against the scout team is more important than watching film of the opposing team. Showing your guys making mistakes in practice is also powerful. WHen kids watch film of other teams they tend to watch the ball etc or the highlight plays.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 27, 2016 15:12:05 GMT -6
I always saying the following: "Good luck and stay healthy this season"
There is one coach in our league that only says " May God Bless you". I call him the God Bless You Guy. I am not particularly religious but I found that to be very annoying after getting pounded by them 3 yrs in a row. Felt like pity.
2 Times I have not gone with the standard post game greeting:
1. Wing T guy who always runs X over Waggle and throws to the covered TE. Runs it every year and every year I complain to the refs, they miss it, and then I tell him how bush league he is.
2. Single Wing Guy who runs Sweep, Wheels wing and blocks CB with WR. Two TDs and refs won't call it. Another Bush league play. Claimed it was an RPO. Right buddy.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 15, 2016 13:28:52 GMT -6
Few things I am also curious about with them:
Do they run the dart play at 1 tech every time? Is it something in the front that determines who they pull?
How do they choose who is the go to guy when they run verts and the other WRs just take the play off - the lazy route stuff.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 14, 2016 13:29:18 GMT -6
Interested in a talk about the more vertical style of spread. Like Baylor. No out breaking routes, coupled with really wide slots.
Sorry about the job situation coach, I am a big fan of your site and videos.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 12, 2016 15:53:08 GMT -6
How about this one. What about guys who present packaged schemes they themselves don't run.
I think it's pretty obvious the guys I am referring to.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 11, 2016 16:05:55 GMT -6
Just want to ask as clinic season approaches. Does someone's success have an impact on how much creditably they have with you (speaker,author,etc..)? For me, success is relative. The record is not always indicative of the situation. If coach A wins every year at a school that has always won and coach B wins periodically at a school that never won prior to his tenure I would think who was actually the better of the two would be up for reasonable debate. JMO. The blog I am specifically referring to is more nuts and bolts of schemes and clearly states this is how ran it or would do it.
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Post by spartandefense on Jan 11, 2016 14:45:02 GMT -6
Great question:
A few of the major speakers on the clinic circuit have had little to zero success within the past 5 years, yet I see people on this board mentioning their schemes and videos (RS and JC come to mind). I am not throwing anyone under the bus, players definitely do matter.
What do you guys think about some of the more popular football blogs out there? Most of those guys don't even coach anymore and probable never implemented what they blog about.
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 25, 2015 13:47:30 GMT -6
Do you have access to an electrical outlet close to your field? We have this in our weight room and we love it. Although I don't know how it would hold up in weather. www.roguefitness.com/rogue-echo-gym-timerThat looks great. Can it be programmed to have the period instead of "UP"? Also any idea if it would be visible in the sun?
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 25, 2015 11:04:06 GMT -6
I know I can have one on my phone etc. What I want is a cheaper version that ALL the coaches can see from the field and can be programmed.
I was thinking maybe a cheap flat screen, chrome stick, and some sort of app? Or maybe some segement timer used for crossfit or some other sport?
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Post by spartandefense on Jun 24, 2015 13:33:56 GMT -6
Does or has anyone made an alternative to the Std $1000 and up segment timers out there on the market. I know I can use alarms on my phone but I would prefer a clock that visible with the period on it.
My last school had one of the professional ones with a remote and it made practice so much more efficient. But it is cost prohibitive.
Thanks!
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