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Post by coachcb on Jan 11, 2018 12:47:21 GMT -6
The kicking game is one area where it's critical that kids know all of the rules. You have to keep emphasizing it, too, because kids can get carried away. Here's what it can cost you when that happens Yup... We had a kid one year with absolutely NO football IQ. A kick-off was ready to land out of bounds and and a returner jumped up and tossed it back into the field of play. I NEVER thought this was something I needed to go over with a kid playing football. So, instead of getting the ball on our 35 yard line, we got it on our 15. One of the few times I have thrown a head-set on the ground. I asked him what the hell he was thinking afterward and he said "I thought we'd get the ball where it went out of bounds, just like a punt, coach..".
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Post by coachcb on Jan 9, 2018 15:28:31 GMT -6
If I'm calling plays next year, we'll be one of two Wing-T teams in our entire classification (not just our division). The other team runs a pretty bastardized version of it and they don't do it well. So, we'll certainly be the most "unconventional" team in our classification, just by running the traditional Delaware Wing-T. But, we'd basically be a contrarian team if we ran anything other than variations of "the spread".
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Post by coachcb on Jan 9, 2018 12:58:26 GMT -6
I benched a three year starting OL/DL for a half because he showed up thirty minutes before kick-off. We were tied with the #2 team in the state, half-way through the third quarter and ended up losing. We put him in at half-time but he was p-ssed off about being benched so we pulled him because he wasn't performing. I think there's a good chance that we would have won that game with him on the field but I'd make the same decision every time. He knew when he needed to be there but he didn't think it was important to show up at the designated time.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 8, 2018 13:52:31 GMT -6
At the college level I suppose it is or could be part of the game. As a head coach I never chewed out an assistant during a game. I had two assistants get into once about subbing after the game in the coaches office once. I dog-cussed a narcissistic assistant once at a meeting. But that is about it. As an assistant I have not been yelled at by the head coach. Yet. Personally, when I'm an HC/OC, I keep my hot-heads in the booth and my calmer guys down on the field. An overly emotional guy will go to the booth every game and given a LONG list of things to watch for. Life's a lot easier when you keep these kinds of coaches occupied. Honestly, I went up into the booth as a DC once just to keep clear of the HC as he had no issues dressing down ACs on the sideline. I can take a butt-chewing but it was getting to the point where I couldn't even call plays in from the sideline. It was much better when I started relaying the calls to the LB coach and having him make the calls. The OC and I could bicker over the head-phones. Edit: there's a difference between a few heated words on the sidelines and a screaming match involving swearing.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 5, 2018 14:21:17 GMT -6
What is the school/community view on football? What is the wt training situation like? What kind of off season program have they had? How many coaches are in the building? What kind booster club situation do they have? This is a good start. I would also want to know how many multiple sport athletes there are in the school, if there is a particular sport that is "popular" (i.e. drawing numbers away from the football program..) and what the academic eligibility process looks like.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 4, 2018 15:19:34 GMT -6
When I'm an HC, I give everyone enough to do on the sideline and in the booth to limit the amount of confrontation. Things get heated over the head-sets pretty consistently during close games but that's the nature of the profession. But, even then, the ACs have plenty to be watching during a game, on offense and on defense so the nasty confrontations should be limited.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 21, 2017 10:22:27 GMT -6
We have a stipend and days. For example, the stipend might be $5k for football, $1k for second sport, and 14 days. The stipend stays the same each year. Our teaching scale has steps, so each year your pay goes up a little, increasing your daily rate. That gives you a small raise based on your days. The coordinators stipend is a little higher than the varsity position coaches. Then we have freshmen stipends which are a little lower. When I was in New York City we had to punch a clock for athletics. They paid the varsity head coach the per session rate for a set number of hours. I think it was 254. The varsity assistant got 240 hours. The JV head coach got like 150 hours. The per session rate was around $38 an hour when I was there. We only got three stipends. Once you went over your hours you didn't get paid another penny. I was always strategic with how I clocked my hours so it wouldn't get too front loaded. We started a booster club to raise money for new equipment and to pay coaches. We had three teachers in the building who each got about $2k during the season and $1k for off-season. We also had a couple of guys from the community we paid $1500 to. This was paid in a lump sum at the end of the season. I don't know how things are there now. Man.. I would LOVE it if our booster clubs could pay the staff... We can receive gift cards from them but any cash compensation will have the state union up in arms.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 21, 2017 9:51:44 GMT -6
I know that it has been mentioned on here that some districts don't always count teaching experience from another state count in setting the pay scale for teachers new to the districts, but it go me wondering.... 1- How many of you guys work in a district where they have step increases for coaching stipends? ----> IE coaching experience 0-4 years = $100, 4-8 = $110, 8-12 = $120, 12+ = $130 1a- How flexible/inflexible is the district is setting these steps? ----> IE Allowing/Not allowing the 3 years you coached baseball before you become a football coach count as coaching experience 1b- Does the district allowing experience from another district and/or state be counted in that total? 2- For those that have steps, how many also differentiate between AC experience and HC experience? ----> IE Does the district allow/not allow the 8 years of AC experience count when you become a HC in year 9? Most of the districts I have coached in have a flat stipend. Those stipends are negotiated by the union and some unions are good about making sure that coaches are compensated well. Others could give a chit less and the stipends are low. Two districts bumped you up by a percentage for each year you coached IN their district but you couldn't bring in any experience. This seriously p-ssed me off once as I took a HS HC track job, had 15+ years of coaching experience but two of my assistants were making more money than I was because they had coached in the school for a few years (i.e. 3 or less..).
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Post by coachcb on Dec 21, 2017 7:13:07 GMT -6
Easy, if I'm interested in keeping my job. If I bring in the 6'4" kid, and he doesn't pan out, it will be considered his fault. If I bring in the 6' kid and he doesn't pan out, it will be considered my fault.
If it doesn't pan out, you're getting fired either way
Chances are, you're going to get canned if the 6'0'' kid doesn't produce as the administration is going to say "WHAT THE _ WERE YOU THINKING RECRUITING A SHOT QB?" With the taller kid, they'll simply claim that "he had all of the tools".
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Post by coachcb on Dec 20, 2017 12:59:47 GMT -6
So, let's set up a hypothetical situation and put ourselves in the shoes of a college recruiter.
You're looking hard at two possible QB recruits. All three are 6'1'' or taller, quick and have decent arms. The stand-out of the bunch is a 6'4'' kid with a cannon for an arm, is fast and athletic and his put up some decent stats over the last few seasons. But, his completion percentage is sub-par and his TD/INT ratio is ugly. The other kid is 6'0'' is just as quick and athletic as the 6'4'' kid and his stats are much better. Both kids have high GPAs, are multiple sport athletes and are involved heavily in the school and the community.
So, you pour over film of the kids.
You notice that the 6'4'' kid makes seriously poor decisions when reading his passing progression and tries to force a lot of throws. He's got two quality WRs on the team and seems to zero in on them, regardless of the coverage. And, there are times when the kid just flat screws-up his progression, regardless of the WR. So, this tells you why his TD/INT ratio is so chitty. You also notice that the only WRs that catch the ball consistently are the two described earlier; his other WRs and RBs drop the ball continually. Between watching the film and talking to the kid's HC, it becomes pretty clear that the coaching is questionable at this point. The kid is coming from a middle tier program that has had some serious success with this kid at the helm. This kid also does some fantastic things on film; he runs well with the ball on certain schemes, uses his feet well to avoid pressure on the pocket and makes plays happen.
The 6'0'' kid's stats are out of this world and you KNOW the coaching is solid as he's coming from a perennial powerhouse. As you watch the film, you're impressed with the kid's athleticism, ability to read coverage and make good decisions. He's got a decent receiving corp that run quality routes, makes good catches, and gets the job done which obviously helps his stats. But, there are a few negatives that stand out on the film. First of all, the kid has a tendency to take off when he's pressured. He doesn't move around in the pocket and make plays with his arm; he sees pressure, he finds a running lane and he takes off. You talk to the HC about it and find out that the kid struggled to see over their OL at times so he got used to running with the ball as his speed was an advantage but his height wasn't.
So, you've got some hard decisions to make as a recruiter. The 6'4'' kid is an athlete and there's no way around it. He's got a cannon for an arm but you have to wonder if how he is going to develop in your school's offensive system given that he hasn't been coached very well. The shorter kid is an athlete as well, his arm is also strong and he has had more quality coaching. But, you know that you're going to have a tall OL, year in and year out at your school and this kid has struggled with that.
Do you go with the taller kid and hope that he's sharp enough to pick up on the progressions with some good coaching? Or do you go with the shorter kid who can probably walk straight into the system and do well if you can get him to slow down a bit?
No easy answers here..
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Post by coachcb on Dec 20, 2017 10:08:15 GMT -6
Not only that, but the pace of the game has changed and the amount of games have changed. Rourke had 30 more rushing attempts and over 110 more passing attempts in 2 more games to accumulate those stats. I think the point is that Rourke got zero d1 offers. And not that I am some kind of super guru, but good gosh, I could not believe that someone was not offering him. So much so that I had my son get his autograph at the all star game. And again, I am not some kind of autograph junkie weirdo. And this game has produced OJ Howard and guys that currently start at Penn State, Troy, Auburn, and Florida, not to mention tons of other schools. I didn't even think to ask for those guys autographs. Didn't even cross my mind. Like didn't even cross my mind at all. But with Rourke, I was like, we are getting that autograph. I almost asked him myself, but my grown man pride wouldn't let me. And he we are. He goes juco. Then after one year, goes to Ohio and wins the job and then is responsible for 37 td's as a 19 year old true soph. I am like, well , knew that was going to happen. Not sure how the other 125 plus schools missed that. I imagine he didn't get offers because there recruiters were looking at dozens of other QBs who were taller and faster and put up similar stats. And, this is becoming more and more prevalent with the types of offenses that are common these days. We had many QBs in this state throw for 2000+ yards and rush for 1000+ yards this last season; in all classifications. One is in our division, he is 6'4'' and 210lbs and will be going FCS. He's a solid QB and should have a good career at that level. With that being said, there was a 5'11'', 190lb QB/Mike LB that has won two state titles at the highest classification, has better production in stats and is being recruited as a SS at the FCS level. Honestly, I've watched the kid play and I believe he could easily start at QB for an FCS team but he isn't even being considered for the position. He has accepted a scholarship at an FCS school but I imagine he will be at the NAIA, D2, or D3 level, lighting it up as a QB within a few years. So, I believe this will be an on-going discussion with QBs, given the prevalence of "spread" offenses in the country. There's just so many of them that put up huge numbers. Now, if you show me a 5'10'', 180lb RB that has rushed for 2000-3000 yards in a season and isn't getting D1 offers, I will frustrated.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 15:47:15 GMT -6
I was taking a leak in the bathroom right next to my room this morning.
I close the stall door, proceed to use the toilet and a kid comes into the rest room.
One of our football players (a GIANT SPED kid) stands right outside of the stall and says
"Hey Mr. Coachcb, how're you doing today?"
"Uh... I'm fine, bud."
Dead silence for about 30 seconds or so.
"So.. Going to the bathroom, huh, Mr. Coachcb?"
"Uhh.. Yup, bud, I am."
"Well, sounds good. Have a good day!"
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 14:21:34 GMT -6
My suggestion; don't just go through Xs and Os. Be prepared to demonstrate the fundamentals required in the offense in one way or another. Videos with drills are a great way to do this.
I hate going to a clinic speaker and listen to them talk about the Xs and Os of an offense the whole time. I can get that off of the web..
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 12:08:44 GMT -6
silkyiceYup, pretty much. Honestly, I was on the freshmen staff and we did a p-ss poor job that season. We bickered among one another, didn't coach the kids up very well and it was a dysfunctional season. An older, smarter me would have stayed out of the internal conflicts on the staff and focused on coaching but I didn't. However, with that being said, the varsity HC and I sat down and talked about everything and he was willing to bring me back the next year as long as I got my chit together. I had done a lot of work with the team in the off-season and he recognized it. But, the parents had a mini-coup and demanded that the whole staff be canned so the AD stepped in and fired us all. Went 12 miles down the road, coached the freshman and sophs down there and put the wood to my former school's freshmen teams twice.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 10:58:56 GMT -6
When I was a head coach I did all that. Checked grades, worked on fund raising stuff. Spoke to different organizations in town either for PR or to ask for money. The worst part was making sure we had players lined up to work concessions at home events. What’s hard about that is most of the boys play a winter sport so it was slim pickings. Lol.. Yup. I have to line up refs, concession workers, ticket takers, someone to run the clock, and someone to do books for every home volleyball and basketball games. It is the absolute WORST part of the AD job. Right now, our 7th and 8th graders are doing concessions because our high school kids are lazy and I can't get anyone on our teaching staff to help out in the other positions. I have parents of basketball players helping us out right now. It works just fine for me but it looks bad for the teaching staff. Especially during a negotiation year.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 10:21:46 GMT -6
Do any of you think that it would be a good idea to show some of these to your parents at a parent meeting, such as "stuff parents say" and "stuff coaches never say"? You can get your point across with a bit of humor or you parents can potentially feel insulted. Lol.. I'd love to show this at a parent meeting but I know I'd have a pink-slip from the administration before the video was over. I've only been canned once and it was due to a) myself and the entire staff doing a chit job and b) the parents making sure the administration knew it, all season long. I was pretty p-ssed when the pink-slip came down but I wasn't surprised given the amount of complaining that went on. I took the high road, thanked the powers-that-be for the opportunity to coach, went to a rival school down the road and kicked my previous school's a-- the next season.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 18, 2017 14:27:50 GMT -6
Lol.. I feel your pain... Here was a typical Friday and Saturday for me during football season:
Friday:
-6am-745am: Get to school, take care of school work (correcting, creating tests, plugging in grades, get the next week's lessons planned, write sub-plans for last two periods, run off and laminate the call sheet for the night's game.
-745am-12pm: Teach.
-12pm: Eat a quick lunch, drive into town to meet the bus.
-1230pm: take off, drive 4-5 hours for an away game. (closest away game was a 4 hour trip).
-530pm-930pm: get our a--es kicked.
-1030pm-330am(Sat morning): drive home, try to catch some sleep.
-4am:Get home, pass out.
-8am: drag my a-- out of bed, drink coffee, eat protein bars, crawl over to the school.
-830am-930am: set up for junior high volleyball games
-930am-1230pm: line judge or take tickets for junior high volleyball games.
-1230pm-130pm: tear down the volleyball games.
-145pm-4pm: catch a quick nap.
-4pm-8pm: pull up our previous night's game on HUDL, grade out players. Take a look at some film of the next week's opponent, start pulling tendencies.
-8pm-10pm: watch cartoons.
-10:01pm: PASS OUT.
I can't even imagine having a family while trying to be an AD and coach. I couldn't do it.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 15, 2017 12:43:25 GMT -6
Honestly, recruiting is all about what the kid COULD be at the college level, not necessarily what he has accomplished in high school.
If I'm a college level recruiter, and I see a tall, fast, athletic QB with a cannon for an arm, my first thought is "Where can this kid end up with some D1 level coaching and some D1 level receiving threats?" I am going to be a bit spooked by his low completion percentage but I am willing to gamble and hope that being coached and playing at a higher level will boost that percentage.
Every year, we have some stud All-State players in this state that everyone complains about "not going D1". Well, that 5'11'' QB may have set all kinds of passing and rushing records and won state titles but a college recruiter sees a plethora of QBs from all over the country that are taller, bigger, stronger and have had the same success.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 15:21:03 GMT -6
Well, we've all known that grabbing a face-mask or denying water breaks for punishment aren't kosher, by a long shot. But, the rest of it is pretty subjective. Particularly the question about being "intimidated" by the staff. That's a pretty broad question
Good Lord, I do my best to watch my mouth but some PG-13 language slips out during practice and games. Don't even get me started about running the kids for punishment..
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 14:41:03 GMT -6
bleacherreport.com/articles/2749081-whats-acceptable-high-school-coaches-ask-after-new-jersey-colleagues-ouster?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorialHere is the questionnaire that was given to the players: "1. During practice and or during film sessions, have you ever observed or experienced any of the following behaviors from the head football coach or an assistant coach? a. Grabbing a player’s face mask in an inappropriate way. If yes, please explain. b. Using inappropriate language, such as cursing at players. If yes, please explain. c. Denying water breaks for players. If yes, please explain. 3a. Has the head coach or an assistant coach ever made a player run sprints for punishment? If yes, please explain. 9. Have you ever been intimidated by the Verona High School head coach or assistant coaches? If yes, please explain." (This was taken directly from the article and it looks as if some questions may have been omitted.) Lesson to be learned here fellas..
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 12:26:11 GMT -6
In my experience, coaches that get into this kind of trouble have gotten away with some bad behavior in the past. There was basketball coach in this state that got caught bringing in younger alumni that were/had been playing college ball for scrimmages over Christmas break. This is a huge violation of state rules and he ended up having to forfeit a ton of games. It didn't surprise me as the guy had been doing that for years as well as pulling other crap. I went to college with some kids that played basketball for him and he used to take the seniors out camping every summer and they told me stories of the booze flowing. They were a perennial powerhouse in the sport and won multiple state titles. Several players told me that they partied hard in the hotel rooms with the coaches and the parents after they had won a state title. So, I imagine the syrup incident was just the tip of he iceberg for the coach in this situation. He probably got away with murder in the past and just kept upping the anty. former players coming back and playing is a rules violation? really? Yup. In this state, the "adults" allowed to participate in practice are coaches. And, you have to go through a certification process in order to be considered a "coach". That involves taking a four hour+ long coaching course and watching various clinics (concussion, sport rules, etc..). Even our volunteer coaches have to go through the same process. It's a liability issue; some 19 year old kid lands on a high schooler during a practice, injures them, and now the school insurance won't cover said injury. The situation involved an "adult" that wasn't officially a part of the team and wasn't "qualified" to be working with the kids because they didn't jump through the hoops. Mom and Dad's insurance won't cover it because they say the injury occurred during a school sponsored event. Now the school gets sued. I have gone rounds with our coaches over this one recently because they've always brought alumni in to scrimmage and former ADs turned a blind eye to it. But, I'm not going to be named in a lawsuit if the coaches aren't following the rules and a kid breaks a leg.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 10:36:02 GMT -6
All I can say is this; be glad if you're not an AD during basketball tournament time.. The stands are friggin' awful during those games. They're a PITA during the season but it's far worse during those tournaments.
And, it's a Catch-22..The tournaments aren't held at our place so I'm not technically responsible for the crowd; the tournament manager is. But, I am always the first one to hear about our fans' behavior. I hate going to tournaments and I dread opening my work email on the Mondays following tournaments.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 10:04:58 GMT -6
In a playoff game a couple years ago I heard somebody's dad scream at the top of his lungs "Hey coach ever heard of a screen pass!" We ran Veer and the QB housed it from 55. Lol.. We had the same thing happen a few years ago. We were tied with a team 12-12 in the second quarter and a dad that I had continual problems with hollered "THROW THE F---ING BALL!". We ran Buck Trap twice in a row, went 60+ yards and scored. I will admit we did run a Down-Pass and scored in the fourth to put the game away.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2017 8:20:37 GMT -6
Good Lord... We live in a day and age where not using "gender-neutral" pronouns can get a teacher/coach in trouble in certain states and this idiot is pouring syrup on a kid??? Yep, got the videos on YouTube, parents protesting on both sides, admin not being straight with folks, mnew coach hired, fired after 1 game. It's been quite the ride for these guys. In my experience, coaches that get into this kind of trouble have gotten away with some bad behavior in the past. There was basketball coach in this state that got caught bringing in younger alumni that were/had been playing college ball for scrimmages over Christmas break. This is a huge violation of state rules and he ended up having to forfeit a ton of games. It didn't surprise me as the guy had been doing that for years as well as pulling other crap. I went to college with some kids that played basketball for him and he used to take the seniors out camping every summer and they told me stories of the booze flowing. They were a perennial powerhouse in the sport and won multiple state titles. Several players told me that they partied hard in the hotel rooms with the coaches and the parents after they had won a state title. So, I imagine the syrup incident was just the tip of he iceberg for the coach in this situation. He probably got away with murder in the past and just kept upping the anty.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 13, 2017 16:52:16 GMT -6
Good Lord... We live in a day and age where not using "gender-neutral" pronouns can get a teacher/coach in trouble in certain states and this idiot is pouring syrup on a kid???
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Post by coachcb on Dec 12, 2017 13:51:45 GMT -6
After one of my seasons coaching youth football, I went to the commissioner of the league and asked him to ban names on the backs of uniforms. Honestly, I wasn't standing on any principle; I had parents who couldn't afford to put their kids' names on the backs of their jerseys. Seven out of our twenty-two kids didn't have their names on their jerseys and I felt bad for them. And, many coaches were seeing that all over the league.
I asked that either the league dues pay for names on the jersey or we put a stop to it altogether. He decided to ban them.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 12, 2017 12:41:26 GMT -6
I don't think teaching leadership is a wasted effort but I do think we have the cart way ahead of the horse many times. At the heart of it, the staff needs to provide the leadership, first and foremost. The HC and ACs need to learn how to effectively lead a team. The best HC I have worked under and the best ACs that I have had know how to be positive, effective leaders. The chittiest coaches I have been around are poor leaders. It's just that simple. After that, it's the luck of the draw and a staff needs to be careful about leaning on any particular players in terms of a leadership role. Some years, we have had kids that were mature, smart and had solid leadership skills. We could turn these kids loose in certain situations and have them lead the team. But, other years, we simply don't have it. In one of my first few years as a high school coach, our HC had the captains address the team after the coaches got done. He learned real quick not to do this after one of the "leaders" stated "Alright boys, let's work hard and get out of here early!"
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Post by coachcb on Dec 12, 2017 9:14:49 GMT -6
Honestly, every leadership class or workshop I have ever been to is nothing more than common sense. True, but "common sense" doesn't seem to be so common, anymore. Agreed. But, it's still too much b.s. for me. And, we have found that there are kids that have leadership skills and there are kids that don't. We all have to remember that these kids are kids and they may not be mature enough or have developed the cognitive skills necessary to take on a leadership role in the program. Here's a perfect example: we had a TB/LB who was valedictorian, class president, and went to all kinds of leadership conferences via Boys State and various student council activities. But, this kid was not a leader and there was no way around it. He worked his butt off for us and was an excellent football player but he was hyper-competitive and his idea of "leadership" was hollering at his teammates when the chips were down. He was actually more of a negative influence than a positive one and we had to get on several times during the season about keeping himself in check.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 11, 2017 14:29:09 GMT -6
Honestly, every leadership class or workshop I have ever been to is nothing more than common sense. Lead by example, give credit to your staff for positive outcomes, shoulder the blame for negative outcomes, find solutions (not excuses), be proactive (not reactive), treat your staff with respect, etc, etc..
And, most of them come down to not being an arrogant a--hole.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 11, 2017 11:54:08 GMT -6
Kinda depends on where you're starting from and where you're trying to end up. This. I have the opportunity to take over a program next year and I honestly envision a two to four year plan. Year 1: We pull things together, duke it out with the bottom three teams in the division for the play-offs. We make the play-offs but end up with a tough first round game. Breaking into the quarter finals could be difficult. Year 2: Make the play-offs again and get into the quarter finals and possibly the semi-finals Year 3: Break all the way through to the semi-finals. We play in a tough division but we just need to knock off the bottom three teams to make the play-offs which is certainly do-able. The first round of the play-offs is a crap shoot for those first two years as we could end up seeing the #1 seed from two other tough divisions. We could be looking at a 500+ mile road trip across the state to play a perennial power-house in the first round. Really, the culture is already pretty firmly established within the community but we need a hard kick-start in order to take the program to the next level. The divisions realigned this year and we went from being in one of the weakest divisions to one of the toughest. Basically, we went from a guaranteed play-off birth to having to fight hard for it.
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