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Post by coachcb on May 2, 2018 9:51:01 GMT -6
Guys, use it to your and his advantage. Show them or explain it to them what d1 players do. How they work in the weight room, watch film, practice hard, be leaders, have to make the grades, stay out of trouble, etc. I know there might be some ridiculous d1 5 stars that might not work (actually I doubt that), but every single d1 player I have had was one of my hardest workers and cared the most. Turn the kid into that. Maybe he will be a late bloomer and actually develop into a college football player on some level. Say it doesn't work out. He still became the best he could be, helped your team, and probably become more realistic about his chances. And hopefully became a better person that can be counted on later in life. Edit: I don't mean be dishonest by the way. Be truthful. I just mean use their desire to make them and the team better. Agreed. We had a kid one year that went FCS and has since earned a roster spot on several NFL teams as a LB. The kid is an athlete but very few of us had him pegged as an NFL caliber player as he's a bit undersized for a LB. I left the program his junior year but I keep in touch with the coaching staff and they show the kids videos of his college and pro workouts before they start off-season weight training. The former player sends them new videos of his workouts and I've been told it really helped the team's weight room attendance numbers. And, the kids get a dose of realism when they see him hang-cleaning 400lbs+ for reps when he was a sophomore in college.
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Post by coachcb on May 2, 2018 9:00:10 GMT -6
We keep it pretty simple; we tell these kids that they can always walk on at a school if they aren't offered anything. We dare as "realistic" as we possible though. We'll recommend that they try to walk on at a small school if they want a shot at continuing past high school.
They eventually figure it out for themselves in the end. And, we have had a handful of kids that didn't get any looks from schools but ended up with a roster spot at smaller colleges after walking on. Most were weight room warriors who put in enough time to play scout team.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 27, 2018 9:33:08 GMT -6
We've had nothing but issues with cell phones and academics and athletics over the last few years. We kicked a kid off of the basketball team this year for snapping a picture of another kid naked and it went viral. Many kids are just absolute idiots with their cell-phones these days so the simplest solution for us is to ban them as much as possible. In the beginning of track season, the throwers and I were watching some slow motion video clips of last year's shot putters and discus throwers in my room. Apparently, all of the cell phones hadn't been collected at the start of practice because I looked up and one of our kids (a potential all-state discus thrower) had his head phones in and was texting while we were breaking down the film. I booted him out of practice for the day.. We had a captain suspended for a game for cyber bullying with 3-4 others implicated but less involved. Had the starting quarterback have to sit out a half for poor social media choices. In the playoffs one of our kids cheap shotted a kid (dealt with appropriately) and started receiving death threats from the opposing team... If we could I would force them all to deactivate between August and November. We had a scandal around here involving multiple sports in one school. One of the basketball players had some nude pics of his ex-girlfriend on his phone and spread them around to everyone and their dog. The coach caught wind of it and started an investigation behind the kids' backs. One kid ratted the rest of them out and he started getting death threats from the rest of the kids over it. We're extremely strict with cell-phones. One of our volleyball players forgot to turn her phone into the coach before a game and it was in the locker room. The kid honestly forgot about it and the cell phone never left her bag. The coach was going to let it slide but I stepped in as AD, followed policy and suspended the kid for a game. The coach was p-ssed as hell over but I told her that a) I was going to follow policy, regardless and b) she bore part of the blame for not making sure all of the cell phones were turned in. I've just had too many bad situations pop up because of kids being stupid with their phones.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 11:36:29 GMT -6
We've had nothing but issues with cell phones and academics and athletics over the last few years. We kicked a kid off of the basketball team this year for snapping a picture of another kid naked and it went viral. Many kids are just absolute idiots with their cell-phones these days so the simplest solution for us is to ban them as much as possible. In the beginning of track season, the throwers and I were watching some slow motion video clips of last year's shot putters and discus throwers in my room. Apparently, all of the cell phones hadn't been collected at the start of practice because I looked up and one of our kids (a potential all-state discus thrower) had his head phones in and was texting while we were breaking down the film. I booted him out of practice for the day..
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 10:33:40 GMT -6
1. We don't allow cell phones in meetings or in the locker rooms. There are serious consequences for it for obvious reasons. We don't want kids messing around on their cell phones while we're talking and we certainly don't want them making any shower videos.
2. A kid that violates this rule and records me without my permission is going to have charges pressed against them. I don't care who the kid is; I will personally pursue it to the full extent of the law and school policy.
I had a kid take a Snap chat of me working at my desk from the hallway after school a few years ago. I saw them, hauled their butts down to the office and raised holy hell with the administration and her parents.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 9:51:21 GMT -6
I imagine it'll end up being enforced the same way the it is now; the players will be flagged if they initiate contact with the any part of the helmet above the face-mask. It's basically the only way to make the call and remain consistent. Players will inevitably make contact with their face masks, regardless of the technique that's being taught. Yes, a player may come in and attempt to initiate contact with their shoulder pads but that may or may not happen depending on the opposing player's movement and reaction. A ball carrier lowers their shoulder on a tackler and contact is inadvertently made with his facemask. There's not much to be done there.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 9:11:05 GMT -6
Our kids managed to lose three shots at a track meet once. I had to replace them ASAFP as they were our competition shots and none of our others would make weight. So, we needed them shipped to the school within two days and I could only get that kind of shipping through a couple of companies. I turned in a PO to our AD, explained to him that no one in the STATE could get them to us in two days and that we had to go through the companies that are listed. And, I let him know that we need them soon as we'll need them for a meet at the end of the week. He tells me he'll get them ordered that day, I thank him and walk out of his office. Three days later we don't have the shots so I stroll down to his office and ask him if he ordered them.
He pulls the PO out from a four-inch deep pile of papers and asks,
"Can't we get these cheaper from a local company?"
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 8:30:33 GMT -6
We've done it in the past because it's becoming more and more difficult to enforce. We're running into more and more kids that don't even have dress slacks, much less a dress shirt and tie. We got a ton of blow-back from the parents for it a few years ago. This year, we're looking at using booster funds to buy football polos for each of the kids to wear on game day. We'll ask them to wear khakis and their polo and that should solve a ton of problems. They can get a pair of khakis for $25 from Wal Mart and they'll be good to go. One thing we've done is take up donations for ties and shirts. Many of the teachers and coaches in the school have shirts and ties that they don't use anymore. That solved a lot of problems for us. That's not a bad idea. But, we came up with the polo solution after watching the kids on the eventual state champion team of our classification walk off of the bus wearing polos and dress slacks. They looked sharp so I emailed their coach and asked him how much they spent on those polos and where they got them. We'll spend less than $600 this year to outfit the kids with these polos if we order them in bulk.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 26, 2018 8:10:39 GMT -6
We've done it in the past because it's becoming more and more difficult to enforce. We're running into more and more kids that don't even have dress slacks, much less a dress shirt and tie. We got a ton of blow-back from the parents for it a few years ago.
This year, we're looking at using booster funds to buy football polos for each of the kids to wear on game day. We'll ask them to wear khakis and their polo and that should solve a ton of problems. They can get a pair of khakis for $25 from Wal Mart and they'll be good to go.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 24, 2018 11:37:04 GMT -6
One potential problem that I can see is that kids aren't stupid. They might fall for the initial idea that you're working to help get them ready for varsity but eventually they'l figure out that all you really want from them is to play scout team. They may not like the idea of getting waxed in practice but never get into games, even though they're eligible to play JV. Yup... Best players play on Friday night and then follow a development approach with your JV. We might have a group of JV "starters" but we rotate all of the kids that have been practicing in and get them turns. We end up with a hodge podge of players in at times but pull them out and put our best unit back in during short yardage, long yardage, goal line and red-zone situations.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 23, 2018 7:20:49 GMT -6
1. Early on, we make sure that the kids get equal reps. We start feeding kids more reps when they've earned a starting spot or they're in the top 2-3 players, competing for a starting spot.
2. We run as many groups as we can when we do more big-group work (inside run, pass skelly, full team, etc..etc..). Sometimes coaches are stuck filling in at a position with a bag but lower quality reps are better than none at all.
3. I, personally, keep a notepad and a pencil with me on a clipboard with notes that make sure the drills are organized and kids are getting quality reps.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 12, 2018 11:19:14 GMT -6
This coach would have been fired from any staff I have ever worked on. We had a middle school coach who was charging the kids for "speed sessions" using school equipment about a decade ago. He had offered to help out with our S&C program in the beginning of the summer just so he could get keys to the equipment. He showed up to a couple of morning sessions and then disappeared. I saw him unlocking the cage and pulling out our Speed City gear and charging middle school and high school kids $30 per session. I informed the AD and the HC, we swapped out the padlocks to the cage and he was not brought back as a middle school coach the next year. I won't begrudge someone for trying to make a living..But it's pretty shady to be a coach and using your relationship with the kids and parents at a school to make a buck. As I have stated before, I'm a CSCS certified trainer and I won't take on middle school or high school clients if there are free S&C sessions offered at their schools. This has actually helped me gain clients as the communities are appreciative of the fact that I won't take money out of people's pockets when the service is being offered for free elsewhere. What about the kids who are locked into schools with crappy S&C programs or coaches? That sucks for them to not be able to get your services. And whats schools have ZERO S&C program? Never heard of one. Therefore it sounds like you are training no one in middle/high school. Would you be oppossed to training them on top of what they do at school? Meaning they do the school program 100% and then come to you at other times. And you know what the school did so you don’t overtrain them. I have been approached by parents from one school where I know the S&C program is sub-par, to say the least (I have had many discussions with their PE teacher/S&C coach about programming and she's an idiot). Their high school weight training classes are crap and their before/after school stuff isn't any better. I feel they would get more out of a few sessions with me. But, for me, it's a matter of professional decorum. Yes, I think they would get a better product by paying for my services but the SOME form of S&C is still being offered for free but I don't want to undermine the whole school's weight training program and st (basically in every sport) by taking their kids on as a client. I live, teach and coach in a sparsely populated, rural area and my reputation as a teacher and a coach would take a huge hit if I started training kids from these schools. I do have a couple of 6th graders that I work with but that is because they don't have any kind of S&C program for them at their schools. At my school, I allow the 6th graders to come in and train with the junior high kids but the other schools don't allow it. So, I do have a small base of school age clients. They're a lot of fun to work with and I don't charge mom and dad much for it as we're doing a ton of SAQ work, flexibility stuff, body weight training and we do very basic weight training. Yes, I would train kids if they were working out at their prospective schools and then coming to me. I have done this in the past when the S&C program has revolved solely around weight training and there hasn't been any SAQ work done. The schools around here do SAQ work so there aren't any clientele available for me.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 11, 2018 13:25:30 GMT -6
We've a group of 4 rising seniors that I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get them to come out and run track for me. They're all terrific football players, but they would all be better served with some speed because WHO WOULDN'T BE. It's been frustration for the last two months. I see them training with one of our JV assts (who is a certified trainer) last Saturday at our field. Talking to them yesterday, I ask how much they're paying for that. $20 a session, but "it's worth it, he's helped me so much with my 40 times!" TRACK IS FREE AND WHAT THE F*** DO YOU THINK WE DO WITH THE SPRINTERS??? This coach would have been fired from any staff I have ever worked on. We had a middle school coach who was charging the kids for "speed sessions" using school equipment about a decade ago. He had offered to help out with our S&C program in the beginning of the summer just so he could get keys to the equipment. He showed up to a couple of morning sessions and then disappeared. I saw him unlocking the cage and pulling out our Speed City gear and charging middle school and high school kids $30 per session. I informed the AD and the HC, we swapped out the padlocks to the cage and he was not brought back as a middle school coach the next year. I won't begrudge someone for trying to make a living..But it's pretty shady to be a coach and using your relationship with the kids and parents at a school to make a buck. As I have stated before, I'm a CSCS certified trainer and I won't take on middle school or high school clients if there are free S&C sessions offered at their schools. This has actually helped me gain clients as the communities are appreciative of the fact that I won't take money out of people's pockets when the service is being offered for free elsewhere.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 9, 2018 11:54:23 GMT -6
You're always going to have folks outside of the program that are trying to make an extra buck.. Some of them do offer quality "training" while others don't. We had a stud QB a few years ago who would ditch the team's S&C sessions as his folks signed him up for "Velocity" sessions. The kid came into July camp an absolute beast because the trainers knew what they were doing. I knew two of the trainers as I graduated with them in the kinesiology program at the school and they never bashed the program; they were just working. He would've gotten the same, quality training in the program's S&C program (for free) but mom and dad were PITA elitists.
I will say this, I re-upped my CSCS this last fall to try and make some extra cash on the side around here. I am one of a handful of certified trainers in this area but I refuse to take on middle school or high school clients. I have been approached by quite a few parents and kids but I tell them to train at their school, with the teams. I'm not making near as much money (I only have a couple of adult clients) but I'd rather not stir up any crap with the schools.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 6, 2018 7:29:51 GMT -6
Yeah, I probably need to re-think HOW to say what I'm trying to say. What is the stat? 2% of kids get full rides? We're not going to put our program goals/values in the backseat to cater to 2% of the kids. That being said, we believe that if kids buy into our program and they are talented enough, those opportunities should present themselves, and we will help facilitate that. It can be a priority to help johhny get a scholarship but it cannot come before our program goals/values.
You walked this back a bit, so I don't want to try and kill your original post here ...
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I don't think your original post was a good way to handle this
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its easy as coaches to see it from the vantage point of playing football is a big privilege, and it is, but its also big commitment
they're not out of line, to not take it well, if you tell them, "hey, put the team first" and then "what? you expect me to care about your future?"
I think that's asking kids and parents to go outside of your system
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I think a better approach -
try and explain that its a system that not as susceptible to gaming as they are sometimes led to believe
some of this is out of your and my control, a couple of inches in how tall the kid is going to be is going to make a stupid amount of difference (sometimes life works like that, its not a pure meritocracy)
sometimes a taller kid is going to get a scholarship over the kid who works harder
that said, the coaches who bet their careers on who to give their finite scholarships aren't stupid, they're not going to get conned into giving a kid a scholarship by a slick talking HS coach (they're definitely not getting conned into giving a kid a scholarship by a slick talking trainer or 7 on 7 coach), they're not going to open the newspaper and hand out a scholarship based on a stat line, they're pretty good at teasing out that some kids are in some roles on some teams and putting that into context, they want hard workers and good students. (those are things that you can control, if you control the things you control, I'll control what I control, and life works itself out like that)
That said, I care about you, I care about your future, I appreciate what you've committed to this program, to the degree that I'm able to help you, I will
We approach the "You-Should-Be-Getting-My-Kid-A-Scholarship" crew in a very specific manner. It is something that coaches of ALL sports address in their prospective parent-meetings. We tell the parents and the kids that they HAVE to excel in high school sports before they will be looked at by colleges. With team sports we emphasize that they struggle to excel if they don't buy into the playing as a part of a team and try to play as an individual. They will only be as successful as their team is as a) their performance is dependent on others and b) college recruiters make more visits to successful programs. You won't find them in the stands of 2-8 teams. And, we are also very blunt; they will be recruited if they are athletic enough to play at the next level, PERIOD. We also provide the parents and kids with the statistics and academic recruiting requirements for the NAIA and NCAA. And, we also tell them that when a college recruiter calls us, they don't just ask about the player's football skills. They ask about their work ethic, whether or not they are a multi-sport athlete (if they don't already know), and how much time the kid puts in during the off-season. We are honest with the parents and kids and tell them that we are upfront with recruiters about these questions. The major issue we have run into is parents paying hundreds of dollars to "recruiting services". We warn parents that these are generally scams but we will get them the film necessary to put together their "highlight reel". The "recruiting service" is simply paid because they tout their "contacts" and "report with colleges" while they sit back and send out the film. We have warned these parents and kids that we have yet to receive a phone call from a college that has been contacted by a "recruiting service" but they still pay out the teeth for it and get nowhere.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 5, 2018 13:36:02 GMT -6
Throughout the years, I have found that the parents are just a culpable as these con artists. I can give numerous examples of parents who have shelled out hundreds of dollars to "trainers" and "gurus" over the years against our advice. In each situation, they were paying a ton of cash for their kids to get training and advice that they could receive through the staff for free.
Bottom line; it's their money to waste. If they don't want to listen, then so be it.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 5, 2018 11:29:30 GMT -6
Nope, when I first started teaching, I went to the bathroom before school started and left my door unlocked as I was going to be gone for 10 minutes, max. I got back and the music video for Robin Thicke's song "Blurred Lines" was up on YouTube. Three kids had gone behind my desk and were watching it. Anyone that has seen that music video knows the world of chit I was in over that. I had the principal pull up the camera from the hallway showing that I wasn't in my room when the video was being played. I always try to lock my computer at school for that reason. I had students change the station on Pandora once on my computer, so I decided to always lock it after that if I left the room so nothing worse was done. I normally lock my door and turn off my computer when I leave the room to avoid any issues. But, I literally walked four doors down, took a leak, washed my hands, and stopped to say hello to the teacher next door to me. Now, I log off of my computer if I'm just out monitoring the hallways between classes.
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Apr 4, 2018 15:36:47 GMT -6
Post by coachcb on Apr 4, 2018 15:36:47 GMT -6
We had a very "thorough" tech employee at a school that had installed a program that allowed him to see what you were typing over the server in real-time. So, at the click of a button, he could not only see what website an employee was on but also what they were typing while on it. It was ridiculous as there hadn't been any issues with staff doing anything out of line over the web. Nothings safe at work ever. Nope, when I first started teaching, I went to the bathroom before school started and left my door unlocked as I was going to be gone for 10 minutes, max. I got back and the music video for Robin Thicke's song "Blurred Lines" was up on YouTube. Three kids had gone behind my desk and were watching it. Anyone that has seen that music video knows the world of chit I was in over that. I had the principal pull up the camera from the hallway showing that I wasn't in my room when the video was being played.
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Apr 4, 2018 14:19:56 GMT -6
Post by coachcb on Apr 4, 2018 14:19:56 GMT -6
Everything you say is out there somewhere and anymore everything you do is on video since everybody walks around with a camera in their hand Best to just answer, be professional, avoid getting into pissing matches people are nuts nowadays ..., even posting anonymously here if somebody really wants to find out who you are they will We had a very "thorough" tech employee at a school that had installed a program that allowed him to see what you were typing over the server in real-time. So, at the click of a button, he could not only see what website an employee was on but also what they were typing while on it. It was ridiculous as there hadn't been any issues with staff doing anything out of line over the web.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 4, 2018 12:43:53 GMT -6
Only heard little about that situation, railroaded because of here, I beleive ? Yeah. He took a job as DC at Massillon, OH. Some fanboy loser who wanted to be the Colin Cowherd of Massillon wanted him fired. He cyberstalked DCOhio to here, then dug up some old posts of his where he'd cracked jokes and said the things that made us love DC, then pulled them out of context to feed his witch hunt. I'm not sure if he's still there or if he moved on, but he deleted his account on here because of it and had to answer to them about the BS. It's a shame. Yup. Some folks have posted about anonymity on this thread and DC's situation is a good learning lesson. I know several folks I have coached/taught with know what my handle is on this site and I am careful of what I post when it comes to sensitive information.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 4, 2018 11:59:42 GMT -6
I think all the chest beating from the weight lifting threads is finally starting to spill over Yup, don't expect many civilized responses from us meat-heads down in those threads.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 4, 2018 11:47:40 GMT -6
I have been guilty of getting snippy over threads at times but it's usually over threads on touchy subjects that I know I should stay away from. Or, it's because I don't recognize that there is no voice tone over these threads and a short response may come across as rude when it's just, well, short.
I think we all have to remember that there is a wide scope of experience on this site and that can lead to bickering. I know that I get aggravated at times when a "_____ University Spread Offense" thread pops up but I have learned to stop and recognize that the thread is probably being started by someone who is inexperienced. So, I either avoid the thread or provide some proactive feedback. And, folks need to realize that everyone's coaching situation is different. Coaching in a small school that doesn't platoon really does put a limit on what we can install on offense and defense. We'd love to be able to install all of Saban's matching concepts on defense or MSU'S quarters look but we just don't have the time.
I will say this, I believe the bickering is a fraction of what it used to be on this site. I remember when it seemed like every third thread was being closed because folks were fighting. And, it wasn't just miscommunication causing fights; it was blatant disrespect. So, I feel it has improved from that aspect. I was bummed when the interactive whiteboard was taken down until I was reminded that most sessions on it turned into hours-long chalk wars with all kinds of fighting.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 28, 2018 13:02:30 GMT -6
Dynamic to start practice, static to finish practice.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 28, 2018 12:45:44 GMT -6
PB&J and chocolate milk. It's cheaper and it works just as well.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 28, 2018 11:36:26 GMT -6
Frankensteins (i.e. single leg kicks), lunges, sumo lunges, quad walks, toe touches, storks (step, touch the toes with both hands, kick the back leg up), hug walks, butterfly walks, inside foot touches (kick leg up, internally rotate the hip, touch the insole) etc..
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Post by coachcb on Mar 27, 2018 11:58:26 GMT -6
I have called parents directly after similar incidents and told them that if they are going to be that disrespectful their kid will not play. Then I always get the "hey don't penalize my kid b/c of me" to which I always respond, you still have a choice. Behave appropriately & we're all good. Don't, I pull him. It's actually your decision not mine. I have never asked admin if this was okay. I just did it. Went this far twice & both times it worked. Just my 2 cents. PS - I tell the kid the same thing. Little Johnny it's not personal, just can't have the distraction. Now dads getting heat from his own kid to. My opinion is if a parent wants to run their mouths, I don't allow drive - by's. It's either a high noon draw or shut the f#ck up. Agreed. This crap gets out of hand if you're not willing to approach those parents or call them into a meeting with the AD. They back off in a hurry when confronted about their behavior. It's easy to whine and complain from the stands but it's much more difficult to have a coach standing in front of you saying "Here, take the clipboard. You're convinced you can do a better job so you run the team."
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Post by coachcb on Mar 26, 2018 12:56:35 GMT -6
We give our captains responsibility but it's limited:
-We ask them to contact the other players about off-season workouts. We get much higher participation when there's peer pressure involved.
-They get an opportunity to address the team before and after games and practice but they're given strict guidelines on what they can say.
-We pull them aside each week and ask them about the moral of the team, if there's anything we need to address as a staff, and just other basic house-keeping issues.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 26, 2018 8:44:55 GMT -6
Neither. The past couple years I've just grabbed the 4 oldest kids closest to me before the coin toss. I've tried just about every method- Srs, one from each class, leadership council, kids vote for them, coaches vote, etc- I really think it's one of the most overrated and useless things in sports. Agreed. We do the same thing. We decided to stray away from it one year after the coaching staff vetoed three out of the four kids that the team voted in as captains. The kids turned it into a popularity contest; two of the kids they voted in had missed all of basketball and track the previous year as they had been caught boozing and the third one was an uncoachable, arrogant little rat who we'd never have in a leadership role. Now, the staff votes on four captains but, most of the time, they really aren't anything other than figure heads. We're not going to let them make any major decisions as we don't want to put ourselves in the position to have to override them and create dissension within the team. Bottom line: even the best team leaders make poor decisions as they're 17-18 year old kids.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 26, 2018 8:06:56 GMT -6
we do a short dynamic warm up right at the beginning of practice and go straight into INDYs after probably 5 minutes we do a static strecth after each practice Yep, this is how w e do it. Our dynamic stretches never take more than 5-10 minutes. We jump straight into blocking or tackling stations right after. We change up our blocking and tackling stations on a daily basis to keep things fresh and to engage the kids. I have book that's geared for youth football but it has hundreds of blocking and tackling drills that we use. We've found that starting off with these stations sets a high, aggressive tempo for practice. The kids get a ton fast paced reps, straight off of the bat.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 23, 2018 10:03:33 GMT -6
STAY ON THIS SITE... BEST SINGLE asset that i have found. I agree whole-heartedly with this. I have learned more from my years on this site than anywhere else, really. Also, find good coaches in your area to network with, coach with and learn from them. Over the years, there have been times where I had had the choice between volunteering in a quality program and being paid in a so-so program. I jumped at the opportunity to volunteer in the power-house programs every time. My duties were generally more limited (straight position coach versus coordinator of some kind) but I learned a lot from veteran staff members in the established program. I would venture so far to say that I took a step back in my development as a coach when I took an OC gig in a program that wasn't run well.
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