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Post by coachdmyers on Dec 19, 2017 13:52:08 GMT -6
So I'm going to be giving a talk on our offense in late January and I'm trying to figure out the balance between what would be valuable to share, and how much I'm willing to share.
I realize the things we do exist elsewhere in other forms, so it's not like we are the only school doing certain things... but I also know that if the wrong things are shared, that could be problematic for us.
Those of you who have presented before, how have you addressed this?
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Post by wingtol on Dec 19, 2017 14:05:34 GMT -6
How long do you have to speak?
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Post by coachdmyers on Dec 19, 2017 14:14:13 GMT -6
50 minutes.
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Post by M4 on Dec 19, 2017 14:20:11 GMT -6
Suggest that you change all the terminology to generic stuff vs what you actually call it
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Post by coachcb on Dec 19, 2017 14:21:34 GMT -6
My suggestion; don't just go through Xs and Os. Be prepared to demonstrate the fundamentals required in the offense in one way or another. Videos with drills are a great way to do this.
I hate going to a clinic speaker and listen to them talk about the Xs and Os of an offense the whole time. I can get that off of the web..
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Post by wingtol on Dec 19, 2017 14:39:45 GMT -6
50 mins. is nothing time wise. Pick an aspect of what you do, don't try and jam it all in you'll never get it done. I also don't get change the terminology, unless it's how you call plays at the line or something, who cares if people know what you call a play or what your techniques are called. They aren't gonna get much in 50 mins any ways
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Post by realdawg on Dec 19, 2017 16:32:52 GMT -6
If your worried about it, dont talk about scheme. Talk about fundamentals and drills. I'm way more interested in that at a clinic than scheme anyway. Our scheme is our scheme. Show me how you teach and drill your players.
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Post by aceback76 on Dec 19, 2017 16:59:27 GMT -6
So I'm going to be giving a talk on our offense in late January and I'm trying to figure out the balance between what would be valuable to share, and how much I'm willing to share. I realize the things we do exist elsewhere in other forms, so it's not like we are the only school doing certain things... but I also know that if the wrong things are shared, that could be problematic for us. Those of you who have presented before, how have you addressed this? Don't forget the WHY (reason) you chose your offense! |
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Post by **** on Dec 19, 2017 19:02:45 GMT -6
So I'm going to be giving a talk on our offense in late January and I'm trying to figure out the balance between what would be valuable to share, and how much I'm willing to share. I realize the things we do exist elsewhere in other forms, so it's not like we are the only school doing certain things... but I also know that if the wrong things are shared, that could be problematic for us. Those of you who have presented before, how have you addressed this? Talk about what you do but leave out the worst case scenarios |
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Post by coachjm on Dec 19, 2017 20:24:27 GMT -6
Choose one of three routes...
1. Take one thing you do, a play, a fundamental, or a drill and break it down with all the exact details of how you teach this, it is likely a core principal of your scheme that everyone knows and can learn from but obviously it is no secret.. (I like doing this for our base play, power, or our blocking fundamentals).
2. Talk more holistically over the entire scheme of what you do and why you do it and key drills that develop the skills you need, again this isn't really giving away secrets but can give tips or drills to folks who may run a different scheme (ultimately you are at a clinic to help other coaches).
3. Go Mike Leach and talk on random topics that come to mind while making sure you are funny as heck... (This is entertaining)
I have yet to do 3 and not sure I have it in my skill set but the other two I think are generally effective..
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Post by ahall005 on Dec 20, 2017 11:40:44 GMT -6
Im trying to think of something I could share in a clinic about our offense that would be problematic for us or something they don't already know from film?
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Post by Coach Vint on Dec 20, 2017 12:26:42 GMT -6
If I am doing a one hour topic I try to narrow it down enough so I can give information coaches can use. For example, one of my topics is Practicing Special Situations and Installing an Explosive 2 Minute Drill. Another is Implementing and Practicing a Multiple Tempo Offense. Neither of these are X and O based, but I cover how we do each and show practice film and game film. The practice film shows how we teach it, and the game film shows how it translates to the game.
If I am talking about the X's and O's I go into detail about the mechanics of the play, how we teach it, why we teach it, and how it works. I tend to show a mix of practice and game film. I don't change any terminology because I am not smart enough to do that. I try to give coaches something they can actually use with their programs. My goal in a clinic talk is to show the how more than the what. Many people run our what, but I think what separates us is the how. When I speak at a clinic it is very similar to how I would teach the staff.
Another thought is to make sure you don't just throw a bunch of clips up and say, "here's our D1 back, look at him go." I have seen a lot of speakers do that and you don't take anything away from it. The biggest mistake I make is trying to cram too much into each presentation. I am working on correcting that.
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Post by coachdmyers on Dec 21, 2017 19:59:30 GMT -6
Thank you for the feedback all. I may actually go Mike Leach on everyone and talk about pirates or something.
Side note, one of my favorite (to make fun of) presentations was a guy doing punt returns who apparently had Percy Harvin in high school.
He kept pointing to the punt returner on his diagrams and saying "you put your Percy Harvin-type kid here and then..."
It was incredible.
I promise to not be like that. "So you put your Michael Vick-type player here...
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Post by fantom on Dec 21, 2017 20:29:54 GMT -6
So I'm going to be giving a talk on our offense in late January and I'm trying to figure out the balance between what would be valuable to share, and how much I'm willing to share. I realize the things we do exist elsewhere in other forms, so it's not like we are the only school doing certain things... but I also know that if the wrong things are shared, that could be problematic for us. Those of you who have presented before, how have you addressed this? Fifty minutes isn't very long so I doubt that you can get into enough depth to give away any secrets. |
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Post by lilbuck1103 on Dec 22, 2017 17:42:08 GMT -6
And one of the coolest part of this profession and sport is the willingness of other coaches to share, help out, etc. Don't forget that someone once did that for you and made a clinic session really valuable by not "blowing smoke" the entire time.
Pass it on to other coaches who may be in attendance and who you can help become better coaches.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Dec 22, 2017 18:30:05 GMT -6
1 - pick a specific topic
2 - explain why you do it
3 - show how you install it
4 - show practice clips of the install, drills, and team running it
5 - show game clips
MUST: show bad clips and explain how you fix it...
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Post by Defcord on Dec 22, 2017 19:59:38 GMT -6
I was at at clinic in Indianapolis once. In a room where notre dames d line coach was suppose to speak. 5 minutes in he’s still not there and clinic organizer comes in and says they are trying to figure it out. 2 minutes later Ball States d line comes in and goes “well I am not on the roster but we can talk ball if y’all want.” When he starts to talk he goes “if you all have any questions email me...no eff it here’s my personal cell call me anytime cause if you are still here then you love football and your kids so you have to be someone I would talk to.”
It was prettt cool. And it showed me that there really are no secrets. Go talk ball and have fun.
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Post by fballcoachg on Dec 25, 2017 9:45:13 GMT -6
The few times I’ve spoke I got in to exactly how we teach it, why we believe in it, and left no real details out. Here’s the thing, after watching 10of our plays you should have a good idea what our bread and butter is so I didn’t see value in being secretive, I saw value in giving what I have and knowing that walking through it w a bunch of strangers, and some opponents, would make me better because I needed to reevaluate every single step and thought.
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Post by aceback76 on Dec 26, 2017 14:23:39 GMT -6
So I'm going to be giving a talk on our offense in late January and I'm trying to figure out the balance between what would be valuable to share, and how much I'm willing to share. I realize the things we do exist elsewhere in other forms, so it's not like we are the only school doing certain things... but I also know that if the wrong things are shared, that could be problematic for us. Those of you who have presented before, how have you addressed this? If you are primarily a RUN 1st. team = do Run & Play Action Passes. If you are a PASS 1st team = do Drop-back/Screen/Draw!!! PS: Never give your opponents TOO MUCH credit. They won't KNOW what's coming next. Just don't let them call out what's coming by FORMATION! |
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