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Post by bigm0073 on May 15, 2015 16:38:03 GMT -6
No. That is called tendencies. No that is called listening to words. Do you really think that other defenses didn't pick up on tendencies based on alignment of the back in the gun? That colleges even all the way back in 2010 didn't look at that? LOL Read more: coachhuey.com/thread/69082/cheating-football#ixzz3aFWEGCXUNo I know colleges do that.. Our DC has 10 years of college coaching experience from Division II, III and FCS Level.. He is the one that came up with it... I get that.. The difference between us and 99% of other high school teams is we check EVERYTHING with the LBER.. He makes the calls and we go.. Out lbers have checks weekly off of formations, personnel, etc... Most high schools do not do this... Other teams may or may not have picked up on it (Considering we played them in the regional finals Thanksgiving weekend it looked like not too many did pick up on it)... We were able to win by the QBs feet... Alignment of back confirmed.. Run read our OLBER blitzed and we were cover 0... 7 man box against spread.. Pass lbers dropped and safeties play cover 4.. Was a HUGE Again others would consider that unethical...
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Post by bigm0073 on May 15, 2015 12:09:34 GMT -6
AFter watching film and by the the stance of the QB you can tell if it is a pass or run.. Is that cheating.. The players know when his foot is up it is a pass... Even Run..95% probability so you sell out for run.. cover 0.. spread team.. We won a Regional Championship and many, many games by these tips (MLBER MAKES CALL RUN PASS CALL) Is this cheating...Alignment of Back - (Especially spread teams) ... we were doing this 2010/2011 before most schools and even colleges... Back deeper IZ run... Back even Pass .. 90% of time... By knowing this we make a call.. Is this cheating...No huddle teams... When we decipher their code words and numbers... Have players who by 2nd quarter know where play is going according to their code words or numbers..Conveyed to defense and run/pass is on or off... We know where play is going and we sell out for it.. Is this cheating....If it is not what is the difference between defense picking up code words, etc and coaches knowing the other coaches signals... By the spirit of rules both are considered cheating.. Correct? Line can be "blurred at times.. Not always as cut and dry as people think...
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Post by bigm0073 on Apr 23, 2015 19:01:12 GMT -6
My school district that is automatic long term suspension and up for explosion.. Likely expelled.. Best bball player on team had a picture of him with a joint on snap chat.. Expelled..
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Post by bigm0073 on Apr 15, 2015 19:56:36 GMT -6
I think the key is the staff.. Having them coach one side of the ball. We have 5 offense and 4 defense... We try to full platoon but out of 50 dressing varsity we will have 4 or so go both ways in spot action.. Basically 0ver 90 percent of the team plays one way and all of the coaches coach one way.. Starting corner will get some reps at wr .. Other corner runs legit 4.4 and its state 55 meter champ.. Returned 4 kicks for td... He will get touches on jets.. Etc.. 2 dline repping and spelling at h back..; maybe one oline spelling at dt.. Other 45 or so go one way and get coached up... none of the two way guys start both ways.. They spell and give offensive depth
this really helps us with our echo system too. Each series just bring the lineman to the end zone tv with their coach.; skill to their wide angle tv with their coach. Helps with live game day adjustment.
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 27, 2015 18:24:44 GMT -6
Good point
I am with phantom too.. What do they have to hide? I coached college ball and every serious recruit we had I always contacted the head coach and got his breakdown.. what is this program hiding? Why so weird and secretive in their approach..
Just smells of fishy, shady and gimmicky.. Not a way to sustain a program. I am sorry but I do not see this trend picking up steam..
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 27, 2015 15:45:18 GMT -6
1, 2, and 3 make perfect sense, but 4? They're not recruiting you, they're recruiting some teenager. They're not obligated to pay you any specific courtesy. Actually as a head coach coach I totally disagree with this statement.. I get you do not think the head coach should HAS to be involved but really high school coaches are the college coaches life line..I get it,, But if you are a legit program and you are building for the future that is honestly by FAR THE BEST WAY TO GO!! The better their relationship is with us..the more we help them.. The schools that reach out to us, that treat us well.. allow us to their spring practices, games,, clinic us... Just treat us well.. We do the same.. It is common sense.. I am living it now.. Got a freshmen on my team from Ghana 6'5" 225 lbs te/de FREAK.. Started power forward and was 2nd team all conference power forward as a freshmen in bball.. 17 shoes, huge hands, long, not an ounce of fat.. He is EXACTLY what every coach in our state wants.. Long athletic DE/TE Athlete type.. ABSOLUTE STUD!!! Well the two schools that I have the best relationship with in the state I gave them the heads up on the kid.. He and I actually went to one of their practices yesterdays... EVERY COACH came up to me and him and introduced themselves.. They always treat me well.. Always.. They are an established staff and do a great job.. So they got the first crack at Nana... HE will probably be offerered this summer or fall... Others will come.. But it is common sense to develop a strong positive relationship with the high school staffs...ESPECIALLY in state.. It is human nature...
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 27, 2015 15:37:08 GMT -6
Great post fantom..
Would be shocked that kid stays 4 years at that school.. those shady small little d2 schools that do that stuff just do not have their stuff together.. how does the kid not visit? I mean really.... That is almost comical...
Again the real legit schools that have solid programs would NEVER recruit this way and would never not follow up with a head coach..
I am very dumbfounded by this as well..
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 27, 2015 10:40:09 GMT -6
I have been a head coach at 2 schools going into my 12th year now.. Yes that is very, very odd. Never had that quite happen. I have had over 20+ Kids in that period sign D2/D-IAA/D-IA and never that situation occur. Yes very odd..
Now D2 is different. I have had coaches not contact me just directly deal with the kid and his parents. That happened on a few occasions. Mostly though I am involved in some capacity. Never had a kid sign without at LEAST going on a visit - let alone film..
Usually all of my D2 guys that sign get their package on their visit in January/February range. They go down for an overnight.. Hang out and the next day before they leave they sit down with the head coach (their family) and breaks down the package for them. SO if the school is 38,000 a year Head Coach will say $15,000.00 Football Money $10,000.00 Academic $2,000 work study $5,000.00 loan
And they may explain you have to come up with the other $6,000.00.. or something like that.
Every D2 kid that I have had sign over the past 10+ years this is how it went down. They came on the visit in January and the head coach broke the "Package Down".. D2's have very, very limited resources so is NEVER a full scholarship.. At least I never had one sign a full Football Scholarship. They usually package them up..
The Division IA/IAA - That is a TOTALLY different animal.. They vet, they pry, it is a process before they sign... They are much more detailed with their process and would NEVER handle it the way you described.
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 26, 2015 19:49:43 GMT -6
5a school va 11 varsity.. Two of them jv 2 frosh 8 coaches in the building varsity coach one side of the ball
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 25, 2015 10:21:26 GMT -6
Coach - Love that quote
"The Best Teams are made up of a bunch of nobodies who love Everybody and Serve Anybody and Don’t care about being a Somebody
Consider it stolen.. lol
I also look at Division I football players like shopping at Gucci or Tiffany's.. etc..
"If you have to ask about the price... You can not afford it"...
If you "Could/might be" division 1... You really are not..
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 25, 2015 9:27:07 GMT -6
I would think over 95% of the D1 scholarship offers are out now... Highly doubt he is division 1 if he does not have an offer now going into his senior.. Why does he not have at least a 1aa offer...
My Division 1a guys had offers by now..
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 16, 2015 9:17:32 GMT -6
DC ohio
So when you say 75 that is basically 10,11,12.. Basically our Varsity and JV guys... The freshmen team (if you have one) are separate and kind of on their own "island" so to speak..
Is that right?
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 7, 2015 5:34:36 GMT -6
Ignore it and get to work on the next opponent. Concentrate on fundamentals and execution. THIS!! Perfectly put... Sounds like a quote from a person who has had some experience in this department.
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Post by bigm0073 on Mar 5, 2015 22:19:28 GMT -6
Will be there Saturday
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 27, 2015 23:52:11 GMT -6
I agree 100%
Had a young man transfer to us as a senior from another school.. could tell with in a week of summer workouts something just was not right.. He was a special ed/autism.. He worked out with us and came to practice every day.. He worked hard, was never a discipline problem.. Gave 100% effort.. Worked hard... No way I would cut a kid like this.. He actually played some special teams for us..
From a coaches perspective when we honored him at our banquet.. His parents both came up to me basically in tears.. Thanking our football staff for everything we did for their son.. Accepting him, allowing him the opportunity to play for us, be apart of a great team (We went 11-3 his senior year and the state semifinals).
I can not tell you how thankful they were. I have no problem keeping players in our program who work hard and are good kids who give us their best effort.. Who want to be apart of it... I will never cut them.. We want those kids.. I do not care if we have to pay for their jersey or uniform.. I will never cut a good kid who wants to succeed.
The kids with a poor attitude, poor behavior, grades... etc.. they are the kids that I have little or no patience with...
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 26, 2015 13:12:55 GMT -6
THAT STINKS!!! That site was UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
I noticed earlier in the week the All 22 films had been pulled... Man that really does stink!!
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 14, 2015 12:23:12 GMT -6
We also run a youth camp - last year assistant got paid for one week 500.00 - 900.00 dollars.. had 6 of them do it with me.. This year we are doing 2 weeks of camps.. Help supplement summer pay.. help with vacation...
As you guys all know anyway you can help supplement your assistants pay you try and do it...
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 14, 2015 12:21:09 GMT -6
Head Coach 4,200.00 Plus 11 month contract (This does count towards your retirement too) Assistants 3,300 (8 )
No booster funds
Weight Room Yes - My DC runs the weight room too.. 3 stipends through the year at I believe 1500 to 2000 per season.
No steps, flat fee for stipends...
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 13, 2015 12:03:55 GMT -6
I agree coach... Our best athletes run track.. Our top skill players are fast and run the 100, 200, 400 etc... We want them to continue that.. Plus others play LAX, Baseball...
You have plenty of time in the summer to work with them and obviously come August plenty of time to coach them up and make them better with all of them being there...
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 13, 2015 7:58:50 GMT -6
Coaches
Have had the local head pastor in our community run our character ed program and leadership council for the past 4 years. He does a great job but we are looking to expand it and make it better. Make it as much apart of our program as lifting. We really believe this is very important.. Especially in today's day and age.
I have heard of Dennis Parker Coaching to Change Lives...
Anyone else know of others.. Anyone else have ideas, thoughts, suggestions. Love to start a discussion about this and hear feedback, ideas and experiences from other coaches on this board.
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 13, 2015 7:56:00 GMT -6
I agree with the above posters 100%... Have not done a 7 on 7 tournament in years... Two years ago in 2013 we started a freshmen QB who passed for over 1200 yds and 70% completion rate.. No 7 on 7.. Have not done a 7 on 7 tournament since Spring of 2011...
Last year he was replaced by a sophomore who passed for over 1800 yds/16 TDs/ 8 Ints and .. 64% Completion rate.. The number # 4 ranked QB in our area (Out of around 20 teams). We have three WR catch between 30 - 39 balls... Our pass game was pretty efficient.. More efficient then most..
7 on 7 usually produces bad, bad habits.. Prefer coaching them together in August when it counts.
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 30, 2015 20:54:05 GMT -6
You can say what you want about this but just open up your saturday paper every morning in the fall and read the box scores.. I have done it so many times I can not even count it.... In high school football that stat means a lot.. Turnovers more IMO but that one is the next big one. How much did we run for and did we stop them.. If we can not stop the run and if we can not run the ball.. we are doomed..
I TOTALLY disagree with the post about teams running the ball because of their teams squatting, dead lifting.. basically superior strength... That is hog wash and garbage. It is called a commitment on both sides of the ball,,, Technique, proper coaching and play calling. I am a former lineman... I coached oline at the college level.. Oline play is and WILL ALWAYS be a priority in my program. So is running the ball. My DC was a DLine college for almost 10 years at the college level.. He teaches, great technique and is totally committed to stopping the run. That is our focus.. He is totally committed to taking away your run plays and stopping them.. We spend endless hours each week on defense prepping triangle drill, inside run/9 on 9 and drilling to stop their run. It is our #1 priority each and every week on defense.
We have had midgets, small kids, scrappy kids and were able to do this.. It is a commitment, system... Again I preach this stat... Just open up your box scores and read them. Unless their is a huge turnover margin disparity the team that runs the ball better usually wins over 80% of the time.
I also agree with red zone/green zone offense.. Scoring TDs and stoping in the red zone is very critical too...
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 30, 2015 11:39:41 GMT -6
Open up your local papers every saturday morning and read the local high school box scores... I tell my players to do this all the time..
The time that wins usually wins the rushing battle over 85% of the time.. Example
Team wins 35-7...
Winning team had 47 carries 265yds..
Losing team had 29 carries 74 yds...
You see that quite, quite often at the high school level...
Just read the local box scores each week 80% of the time or more the team that ran the ball better wins... Especially if it is substantial...
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 30, 2015 7:26:42 GMT -6
Our QB last year had 3 games where he passed the ball for over 30 times and threw for over 240 yds in each game.. We lost all three of them..
Our RB had five games where he rushed for over 100 yds and we won 4 out of 5 of them. The game we lost in the playoffs he had 125 yds rushing and as a team we had almost 185... The other team was HUGE, physical and wore us out. Ran the ball down our throats and we did not have an answer. They had over 300 yds rushing... They won.
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 30, 2015 7:23:39 GMT -6
High School football in our state it is pretty simple - I tell this to my team EVERY friday I meet with them after our team meal and get ready to go out...
1. Turnover margin.. Turnovers... The biggest STAT. If we turn the ball over 3 times and the other team does not our percentage of winning is below 5%... 2. Running the ball /stop the run- If I average over 5.0 yds a carry during the course of the game and do not turn the ball over.. I am probably winning. The other side if you are pounding my defense with 5-6 yds per carry. We are in trouble. This gives you the ball, eats at the clock and physically, emotionally and mentally breaks down a high school kid. Most of them take this pounding and at some quit in the 4th quarter. 3. Explosive Plays - This is where that Division I skill player can be ALL of the difference in the world. You got that special kid that can go 50, 60, 70, 80 yds for touchdowns.. That is a DAGGER!! Explosive plays of 20 yards or more change the landscape of the field and often can give you cheap, easy scores that kill a defense.
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 29, 2015 20:27:51 GMT -6
Yes cool clinic is the real deal.. In 1998 I was a young 25 year old college online coach and went to the cool clinic.. Sat in the front row for like 6 hours and wrote down a whole legal pad worth of notes from Jim McNally the legendary Oline nfl coach. Great, great speaker and presenter. I have seen him a few other times and he is awesome!!!!
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 29, 2015 12:31:26 GMT -6
Monday - Wednesday Home at 6:30 PM range...
Thursday Walk Thru - Home at 5:15 range
Friday - 10:30 - 11:30.. depending.. travel, etc...
Saturday - No organized activities.. Coaches are on their own to watch, breakdown film..etc.. We will call throughout the day but we allow people to work at their own pace - With HUDL and Technology we have been doing this since 2011.
Sunday - Defense meets at the DCs house for about 3-4 hours.. depending.. I meet with the offense from around 3:30 - 6:30 range..
We do not bring kids in on Saturdays I am at school most days 7:15 AM... Play basketball Wednesdays and Fridays at 6:00 AM.. We are an established staff and have been together for a few years. All of my varsity coaches are between 39-46 years old.. We all get it.
We have used this schedule for the past four years. Over that period we went to 3 state semifinals and made the playoffs and beyond every year. Over that period we are 39 - 13.
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Jan 16, 2015 11:18:00 GMT -6
Post by bigm0073 on Jan 16, 2015 11:18:00 GMT -6
2014 Team Rules
1. Be on time! Players late for football functions will have “Murphy Time”. A football functions includes games, practice, workouts, meetings, films sessions and pre-practice walk thru.
2. Attendance – Players missing 3 practices are subject to being dismissed from the team. All players who have any prior engagements that may cause them to miss 3 practices have to get approval from Coach Mangano. This is for all levels. Without having prior approval or notification your son will be dismissed from the team.
3. Unexcused Absence – Any player that misses practice without contacting Coach Mangano or Coach Odlum will be dismissed from the team immediately. This includes Varsity and JV. If a player is going to miss practice parental contact with Coach Mangano or Coach Odlum is required. AGAIN IF A PLAYER FAILS TO CONTACT A COACH BEFORE A PRACTICE HE WILL BE DISMISSED FROM THE TEAM IMMEDIATLEY!
4. Sick – If a player is “Sick” during August practice he is still expected to attend practice. Players will not do physical activities but they will be with their position group. Players that have a contagious virus or illness will bring documentation from their physician when they return.
5. Grade Sheets – Players will be required to turn in grade sheets when school begins. Players with poor academics will be subject to suspension and or removal from team.
6. Behavior – Players with discipline problems will be suspended and or removed from the team. This also includes discipline issues players may have with coaches and or teachers/administrators.
7. Violations - Any player who violates the law is subject to suspension and or dismissal from team. This includes actions that maybe taken by law enforcement and or NSHS Administration.
8. Privilege - Playing in our program is a privilege and not a right. We expect players from all levels to adhere to our policies.
9. Position/Playing Time – Parents may not address playing time or position with Coach Mangano or any coach on the staff. If you have a concern about your son’s well being academically, emotionally or athletically I will address those needs. Playing time and position does not fall into that category.
10. 48 Hour Rule – Parent may not approach Coach Mangano or any of the head coaches after a game (This includes JV/Freshmen). This also includes assistant coaches as well. There needs to be a cooling off period and right after the game is not an acceptable time to address concerns you may have. All meetings will Coach Mangano must be arranged prior.
11. Varsity Letter – All senior players automatically letter. Lettering for the 2014 season will require a player to participate in 90% or more of the practices and 25 % or more of the snaps in a game.
12. Labor Day – Varsity & JV Practice – All Varsity and JV players will practice on Labor Day Monday Morning. We have a game that week. Players who are unexcused from this practice will be subject to same disciplinary actions as if they were to miss any other practice. Review parental contact procedures.
Print Name (Players) __________________________________________________
Signature (Parent)_____________________________________________________
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Post by bigm0073 on Oct 29, 2014 11:22:55 GMT -6
For Nike COY and Glazier I believe I was contacted either before the football season or early in August/September..
By the time November rolls around they already have their line up in place.
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Post by bigm0073 on Oct 27, 2014 11:26:00 GMT -6
Same as above.. ARound 50 per session.. Spoke at both...
Good deal.
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