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Jan 15, 2015 22:54:27 GMT -6
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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 15, 2015 22:54:27 GMT -6
I'm interested in the policies that your football programs have regarding parents. We were fortunate this year with an above average season and the number of parents who tried to provide input or exert control over our program was astonishing.... And I've only got 24 players! Most recently, a group of parents went to our school board and succeeded in getting our girl's basketball coach fired mid-season for a lack of success after 1.5 years as the head coach. I feel like I need a new parent policy that covers all the bases and removes the parent's teeth...and I know that many of you at larger programs have a lot more experience with this than I do. So my question is, what is your game plan for dealing with troublesome parents, and do you have a written policy that assists you? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Post by coachfore on Jan 16, 2015 1:17:15 GMT -6
Coach, the only way to "remove the parent's teeth" is through the administration. If they succumbed to the parents to get rid of the girl's basketball coach, I imagine that the football coach will be a larger target when the time is right!! I've been a head coach for 8 years, and AD for 6 (So Cal). My policy as a head coach was: 1. My staff and I don't talk about playing time unless your son is there in the meeting. 2. Please give us 24 hours after a game before speaking with a coach. 3. I will not meet with a parent to discuss a coach unless the coach is there. As an AD - I won't discuss a head coach, or an assistant coach, unless that person is there. If you call or email me to complain about a coach, the first thing I will tell you is to go talk to the coach. If you don't get the answer you're looking for at that time, then the three of us will meet.
If your admin is meeting with parents without the coach there in the meeting too, game over. Get your resume ready!
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Jan 16, 2015 8:35:16 GMT -6
Post by jlenwood on Jan 16, 2015 8:35:16 GMT -6
Most recently, a group of parents went to our school board and succeeded in getting our girl's basketball coach fired mid-season for a lack of success after 1.5 years as the head coach. How did they do that? Was the coach a good or bad coach in your opinion? Did they deserve to be let go? I'm the last guy to stick up for administrators, but sometimes parents are correct....(that's a strange thought to put out there on a coach site).
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Jan 16, 2015 10:24:28 GMT -6
Post by sweep26 on Jan 16, 2015 10:24:28 GMT -6
Most recently, a group of parents went to our school board and succeeded in getting our girl's basketball coach fired mid-season for a lack of success after 1.5 years as the head coach. How did they do that? Was the coach a good or bad coach in your opinion? Did they deserve to be let go? I'm the last guy to stick up for administrators, but sometimes parents are correct....(that's a strange thought to put out there on a coach site). This makes me wonder...are administrators ever held accountable for their personnel selection in instances like this?
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Jan 16, 2015 10:37:31 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 10:37:31 GMT -6
I'm interested in the policies that your football programs have regarding parents. We were fortunate this year with an above average season and the number of parents who tried to provide input or exert control over our program was astonishing.... And I've only got 24 players! Most recently, a group of parents went to our school board and succeeded in getting our girl's basketball coach fired mid-season for a lack of success after 1.5 years as the head coach. I feel like I need a new parent policy that covers all the bases and removes the parent's teeth...and I know that many of you at larger programs have a lot more experience with this than I do. So my question is, what is your game plan for dealing with troublesome parents, and do you have a written policy that assists you? Thanks in advance for your replies. Analyze your year and the girls BB situation and see if there ever was anything that could have been done to avoid the parent "input". Is there an enabler or weak link on either of the staffs? Is there a rule about contacting a coach that was not followed? Players not treated well? There are some coaches that I know that complain about parents all the time but unfortunately there is a valid reason for parents to complain. Coaches language, competence, lack of communication, etc. Try and find a weak link anywhere and then don't be afraid to draw a hard line. Life it too short to put up with that.
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Jan 16, 2015 11:18:00 GMT -6
Post by bigm0073 on Jan 16, 2015 11:18:00 GMT -6
2014 Team Rules
1. Be on time! Players late for football functions will have “Murphy Time”. A football functions includes games, practice, workouts, meetings, films sessions and pre-practice walk thru.
2. Attendance – Players missing 3 practices are subject to being dismissed from the team. All players who have any prior engagements that may cause them to miss 3 practices have to get approval from Coach Mangano. This is for all levels. Without having prior approval or notification your son will be dismissed from the team.
3. Unexcused Absence – Any player that misses practice without contacting Coach Mangano or Coach Odlum will be dismissed from the team immediately. This includes Varsity and JV. If a player is going to miss practice parental contact with Coach Mangano or Coach Odlum is required. AGAIN IF A PLAYER FAILS TO CONTACT A COACH BEFORE A PRACTICE HE WILL BE DISMISSED FROM THE TEAM IMMEDIATLEY!
4. Sick – If a player is “Sick” during August practice he is still expected to attend practice. Players will not do physical activities but they will be with their position group. Players that have a contagious virus or illness will bring documentation from their physician when they return.
5. Grade Sheets – Players will be required to turn in grade sheets when school begins. Players with poor academics will be subject to suspension and or removal from team.
6. Behavior – Players with discipline problems will be suspended and or removed from the team. This also includes discipline issues players may have with coaches and or teachers/administrators.
7. Violations - Any player who violates the law is subject to suspension and or dismissal from team. This includes actions that maybe taken by law enforcement and or NSHS Administration.
8. Privilege - Playing in our program is a privilege and not a right. We expect players from all levels to adhere to our policies.
9. Position/Playing Time – Parents may not address playing time or position with Coach Mangano or any coach on the staff. If you have a concern about your son’s well being academically, emotionally or athletically I will address those needs. Playing time and position does not fall into that category.
10. 48 Hour Rule – Parent may not approach Coach Mangano or any of the head coaches after a game (This includes JV/Freshmen). This also includes assistant coaches as well. There needs to be a cooling off period and right after the game is not an acceptable time to address concerns you may have. All meetings will Coach Mangano must be arranged prior.
11. Varsity Letter – All senior players automatically letter. Lettering for the 2014 season will require a player to participate in 90% or more of the practices and 25 % or more of the snaps in a game.
12. Labor Day – Varsity & JV Practice – All Varsity and JV players will practice on Labor Day Monday Morning. We have a game that week. Players who are unexcused from this practice will be subject to same disciplinary actions as if they were to miss any other practice. Review parental contact procedures.
Print Name (Players) __________________________________________________
Signature (Parent)_____________________________________________________
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Jan 16, 2015 11:18:28 GMT -6
Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2015 11:18:28 GMT -6
Use your success to get a better job.
Seriously, if your board or your admins listen parents that closely that they dismiss a coach in the middle of the season, no piece of paper or document you create is worth crap. You're screwed already.
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Jan 16, 2015 14:05:25 GMT -6
Post by coachberk65 on Jan 16, 2015 14:05:25 GMT -6
Coaches that have parent rules; How do you administer disciplinary action to the parent? Approach AD, access to games, etc?
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Jan 16, 2015 19:35:25 GMT -6
Post by freezeoption on Jan 16, 2015 19:35:25 GMT -6
Sorry man, you are screwed. You can work your parents into things like team meals, travel meals, decorate locker room, make sure to have a parent meeting before the season, go over expectations, but it sounds like if they really want your head they will get it, we had a coach over this way, did well the previous 3 seasons, got them to the quarters or semis, talent level way down this year, went 2-8, lost a couple of close ones, they let him go, that school has always done that, so i feel bad for the guy, but you need to check into things before you go in to a job and know what to expect, i once got hired at a school, d coord job, i thought the contract was all done, after i moved there they said contract was not valid till i talked to school board, here i moved to this town and everything, they told me you got to win these three games to keep your job, that was a messed up school,
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Jan 16, 2015 21:38:26 GMT -6
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Post by jpdaley25 on Jan 16, 2015 21:38:26 GMT -6
Thanks for all your replies! Our girl's coach was just young and inexperienced. She didn't do anything wrong.
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Post by s73 on Jan 16, 2015 23:28:42 GMT -6
I'm interested in the policies that your football programs have regarding parents. We were fortunate this year with an above average season and the number of parents who tried to provide input or exert control over our program was astonishing.... And I've only got 24 players! Most recently, a group of parents went to our school board and succeeded in getting our girl's basketball coach fired mid-season for a lack of success after 1.5 years as the head coach. I feel like I need a new parent policy that covers all the bases and removes the parent's teeth...and I know that many of you at larger programs have a lot more experience with this than I do. So my question is, what is your game plan for dealing with troublesome parents, and do you have a written policy that assists you? Thanks in advance for your replies. I approach my job the following way, take it for what it's worth. First, totally agree w/ being proactive. If there's even a HINT of an issue I'm going to fill the admin in with MY SIDE of the story before any player or parent can hit them up w/ any distortion. The old saying "you never get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression" still holds true IMO. Secondly, through effort and determination I am trying to do the best job that I can. As a result, I have convinced myself that there is nobody better for THIS job than me. I truly believe that if I believe this and carry myself this way that others may see this also. May or may not be true but it gives me peace when my head hits the pillow. Lastly, I love coaching but I have reached a time in my career where I can live w/o coaching. As much as I love it, I will not coach for an admin that does not want me. They just have to say the word. I don't feel this in a confrontational way but rather I have contentment at this juncture. I don't want to be the guy who's chasing after the girl who's not interested. That just becomes pathetic. JMO.
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