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Post by hsrose on Apr 30, 2010 10:51:46 GMT -6
We will go to a 7-7 passing league every Thursday from 06/24-7/29. 4-8 other teams.
We will host a 3-day full contact camp, 4-9 PM, 7/6-7-8. 6-8 other teams each day.
Weights/conditioning 3 days/week. Possibly 4, I haven't seen the final schedule yet. Over/above the 7-7. Starts mid-June and goes through July.
Fall practice starts 08/16, scrimmage 08/27, first game 09/04, last game 11/12 (11 weeks to play 10 games).
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Post by hsrose on Apr 27, 2010 14:25:37 GMT -6
Anyone dealt with Ramadan? Muslim players that observe it can't eat or drink during the day, and usually have extended family religious gatherings on Friday and Saturday nights. The lack of food includes water so they are weak. Lasts a month so you have to account for that in practices and such.
Blood drive - players reschedule
Habitat - play him when he's there, sub when he's not. I've got him for 7 games. If the backup was able to win all 10 games he'd be the starter.
Religious - That comes first.
How about Homecoming activities? During that week there are a lot of activities going on, including an all-nighter for each class. Kids are wiped out pretty much for the week. Issue is that the "good kids" are the ones helping out, and that usually includes the football players as they are responsible, helpful, outgoing, etc.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 26, 2010 9:08:01 GMT -6
A good deal is a good deal. If Denver thinks that taking Tebow when they did is a good deal, then it's a good deal to those that matter, the Denver management. If I buy a used car, and think it's a good deal, then its a good deal, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
How about having a grading of the past 5 drafts as part of the draft coverage? I'd love to see that as a filler - "And now we move to the results of the 2006 draft, round 1. Mel, your #1 and #2 rated guys are now out of the league, while two 5-rounders made the pro-bowl the past 2 seasons. What changes to your recruit analysis have you considered going into the 2011 draft?" The talking heads, regardless of network or organization, always use the disclaimer that this draft will need to be graded in 3-5 years? They've got the history, let's grade the past drafts to see how things turned out. Do they have that anywhere?
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Post by hsrose on Apr 18, 2010 23:20:20 GMT -6
I know that the variability of each game somewhat reduces the value of setting per-game goals. Sometimes your passing is just on fire and your rushing is dead. You change/adapt/adjust and win the game. But if you sit down and ask your staff/players how many yards they would need to rush for, on average, to have a high probability of winning, you would have a number that would have some value. same for passing, same for defense. You can have 5 measures, or 50, just depends on how fine you want to slice the data that each game generates.
These are like the productivity measures that companies use to determine their performance. How many x's did we move this month? How many days without a injury-related work stoppage? How many user calls did we answer today? This week? This month? As the management guys say "what gets measured gets done". In order to rush for 200 yards per game, you would have to have the OL in synch with the backs, the OC calling the right plays, and the players in the right places.
You can use any set of measures you want as your goals/objectives/things to do. The big thing is are they pretty decorations for the wall, or are they the core of how you measure your performance?
I see a lot of coaches here that go into great detail on how the OL will block on a 3-step vs. a 5-step, or how the OLB in a 4-4 will change against this offense compared to that offensive scheme. It just seems that to put that much effort into a "program" but then to have the only result that matters being win or loss is contrary to the amount of work that went into the O/D schemes.
You either measure things or you don't. If you do, then the measures, and the accompanying feedback mechanism, have to be ingrained into your operations.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 18, 2010 23:01:02 GMT -6
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Post by hsrose on Apr 16, 2010 8:03:51 GMT -6
I think one of the differences is if the goal board is a "these are our goals and it would be nice to make them" vs. "these are our goals and if we don't make them we will find out why and adjust".
The coach at CSM started the year with the team setting the team goals - win conference. They then went in and looked at everything and threw out anything that didn't support that team goal. They changed warm ups, number of plays, style of defense, etc. The coaches and the players came up with the goals above as measures of success, they felt that if they rushed for more than 200 yards, if they blocked a FG, if they didn't take a sack they would be successful.
After each game the DC/OC/SC would mark up the boards and in the team meeting on Monday they would go over the boards in the full team meeting. They felt these were team goals so the team would go over them. These weren't just something posted on the wall that everyone glanced at as they went to weights. These were the measures by which they judged their performance and identified areas to concentrate on. These were things that the OC/DC/SC were measured on.
We can talk about what the values are and how they are valuable or worthless. The real point is are the team goals pretty decorations on the wall or are they real measures that contribute to winning/getting better. If they are decorations don't even bother. But if they are truly the measures by which the players and coaches are judged each week, then they have value.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 16, 2010 0:28:45 GMT -6
wingtol - Yeah, he was the LB coach there, his son played varsity as a soph and is apparently quite the stud. So he's got 1 year association with the school.
What do you think about him getting on the interview panel - how often does a 1st year to the school position coach get a place on the interview panel? He apparently worked the administration constantly until they relented. How about him asserting to the candidates that he should be the DC? Coaching gossip around here is that he pretty much said take me or hit the highway. Most of the coaches I know would have their staff set and not want/need a DC given to them. If you were interviewing for a HC position and he was on your panel, saying he should be your DC, what would your reaction be? A lot of the coaches left and basically said to stuff it.
How about if he wasn't a pro player, maybe a good college player. 1 year as LB coach at the school, couple of years in NC. Would that qualify him as a viable candidate?
I'm not saying that he's not a qualified football mind. He's played at a far higher level for far longer than I can imagine. But there is so much more going on as a HC, especially one with a fading reputation (taken some hits the past few years, probably why the fathers were willing to part with the legend), that there might have been better choices. I'm sure that he will do well.
I'm not sure why this hire is bothering me. The Jerry Reese hire didn't even make the tag lines in the news sites. Different program, different expectations, different coverage. Reese is apparently coming in with a new staff so several key players are leaving and the old staff is pretty much gone. He's coming into a different situation and nobody is going to be expecting him to restore the former glory. From what I hear he was the best of a much smaller pool and won it without being on the panel.
As far as Pederson it sounds like he's doing a heck of a job. That's the stories I'm looking for, both good and bad.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 15, 2010 15:49:53 GMT -6
What are your thoughts on a pro athlete stepping into a HS HC job immediately? Any success/failure stories? Is this something that happens a lot? I've seen a couple of pros come onto local staff's recently, but not walk in as the HC. www.insidebayarea.com/high-school-sports/ci_14890615No disrespect to Mr. Nickerson, or Jerry Reese (NFL, SJ Sabercats), for becoming HS head coaches, but what makes them HC material? Extreme knowledge of football? Yeah, no problem. Immediate "glow" to the program? Very likely, there are only so many Pro's and the school just nabbed one. But, I think that neither are on-campus and I know what problems that can bring. Maybe being pro's they have $$ not to have a day job and will live on campus. A darker side with this hiring is that Nickerson has a son at the school (soph) and got on the interview panel. Started with 60+ coaches in the pool. Some very good, well respected coaches from the area. Been reported by these coaches that he asserted to candidates during the interviews that he wanted to be their DC. Now at the end he is the only one left standing. Several folks are muttering about that. I don't have anything to do with this school so I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm sure these guys will do really well, I hope they do a great job. Just wondering what you would think of a pro being hired over experienced head coaches. I can see it, but it still doesn't fit well.
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Post by hsrose on Apr 15, 2010 8:55:29 GMT -6
Got these from a local JC coach. Has them mounted on 3 20x30 posters in the main hallway outside the weight room.
Kicking game goals Kickoff – Opponent average starting LOS inside 30 Kick Return – Average starting LOS >32 Punt – net >31 yard average Punt Return – Opponent net <25 yard average FG/PAT – 100% Extra Point, 80% Field Goal FG/PAT defense – 80% Extra Point, 50% Field Goal
Offensive - game goals Control the LOS - Rush for over 200 yards Protect the QB - One Sack or Less Secure the Football - One Turnover at Most Per Game Own the Red Zone - 80% or higher scoring Win 3rd Down - 3rd Down % >40%
Defensive - game goals Win - Defense wins championships Limit Points - <17 Stop The run - 99 yards or less, or <3.7 yds/attempt No Big Plays - No runs 20+ or passes 40+ pressure QB - Hits on QB >10 Tackling & Pursuit - yards after missed tackle <50 yards Win 3rd down - 3rd Down % < 37% Turnovers - >3 Turnovers per game Limit Yardage - Total yards <299
These are down the left side, teams across the top. Then he fills in the squares as the season progresses.
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Post by hsrose on Mar 25, 2010 22:05:57 GMT -6
Not sure why I'm putting this up here other than to see if anyone has a similar structure (number of teams, divisions) for their areas (plus I wanted to see how to edit posts using HTML, it works well). I personally think this is a pretty decent number of teams (116) for this section. There are 13 sections in CA with right close to 1k schools that play football. These are the teams in the North Coast Section (NCS) of California, basically the East Bay area from Fremont over to Livermore/Pleasanton and up north along the coast to Eureka, excluding Oakland. This is a list of schools with their enrollments. Div 1 is the largest schools, Div 5 the smallest. For the upper 3 divisions "up to" 16 teams will go into the playoffs. They have gone with 12 teams, seeded as if it were 16 teams with the top 4 teams getting a first round bye. Schools, such as Cardinal Newman and Ferndale can petition up if they think they would be competitive at that level. League champs get automatic playoff bids, everyone else is selected by selection committee when the season ends. After the section championships they have a selection meeting to determine which 5 NorCal teams will face the 5 SoCal teams in the state bowl games. So, where would your team be placed in here? Division 1 | Division 2 | Division 3 | Amador Valley - 2,590 Antioch - 2,824 Berkeley - 3,461 California - 2,435 Castro Valley - 2,920 College Park - 2,053 De La Salle - 2,102 Deer Valley - 3,249 Foothill - 2,298 Freedom - 2,385 Granada - 2,330 Heritage - 2,114 Irvington - 2,032 James Logan - 4,154 Liberty - 2,057 Livermore - 2,076 Mission San Jose - 2,156 Monte Vista - 2,207 Newark Memorial - 2,126 Pittsburg - 2,406 San Leandro - 2,675 San Ramon Valley - 2,032
| Alameda - 1,902 American - 1,997 Arroyo - 1,980 Cardinal Newman - 892 Casa Grande - 1,909 Clayton Valley - 1,876 Concord - 1,543 Dougherty Valley - 1,503 Dublin - 1,490 Hayward - 1,685 Las Lomas - 1,456 Maria Carrillo - 1,590 Montgomery - 1,756 Mt Diablo - 1,653 Mt. Eden - 1,980 Northgate - 1,496 Pinole Valley - 1,661 Rancho Cotate - 1,771 Redwood - 1,477 Richmond - 1,915 San Lorenzo - 1,618 Santa Rosa - 1,998 Tennyson - 1,450 Ukiah - 1,683 Washington - 1,946 Windsor - 1,781
| Acalanes - 1,368 Albany - 1,330 Alhambra - 1,349 Analy - 1,281 Bishop O'Dowd - 1,200 Campolindo - 1,408 De Anza - 985 Del Norte - 1,090 El Cerrito - 1,250 Elsie Allen - 1,223 Encinal - 1,210 Eureka - 1,409 Hercules - 1,086 John F. Kennedy - Fremont - 1,337 John F. Kennedy H.S.- Richmond - 934 Miramonte - 1,280 Moreau Catholic - 900 Novato - 1,346 Petaluma - 1,385 Piner - 1,242 San Marin - 968 San Rafael - 934 Sir Francis Drake - 1,056 Sonoma Valley - 1,320 Tamalpais - 1,120 Terra Linda - 1,114 Ygnacio Valley - 1,365
| Division 4 | | Division 5 | Arcata - 868 Berean Christian - 434 Clear Lake - 494 Cloverdale - 495 El Molino - 864 Ferndale - 171 Fort Bragg - 525 Fortuna - 857 Harker - 655 Healdsburg - 797 John Swett - 532 Justin-Siena - 606 Kelseyville - 550 Lower Lake - 753 Marin Catholic - 745 Mckinleyville - 663 Middletown - 484 Piedmont - 864 Salesian - 550 St. Helena - 502 St. Mary'S College - 617 St. Patrick/St. Vincent High - 603 Upper Lake - 425 Willits – 547
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| Anderson Valley - 180 Calif School For The Deaf - 222 Calistoga Jr/Sr - 384 Emery - 226 Hoopa Valley - 259 Laytonville - 132 Mendocino - 207 Point Arena - 193 Potter Valley - 87 Rincon Valley Christian - 132 Round Valley - 114 South Fork - 235 St. Bernard Catholic - 172 St. Elizabeth - 199 St. Vincent - 352 Tomales - 185 Valley Christian - 303
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Post by hsrose on Mar 8, 2010 1:43:47 GMT -6
Can't help you on the home front, but I have experience with baseball, volleyball, and soccer club activities.
It's generally known in this area (SF Bay) that it is not likely that a player will get recruited to play soccer or volleyball based on high school competition, it's just too watered down. One of the boys club teams in the area just posted that they had 12 all-league soccer players on it. One of the girls soccer club teams last season had 13 players get scholarships. Think those teams would beat most HS teams? So, you play club soccer and volleyball. My oldest played for a local premier soccer team that traveled to Texas, South Carolina, and Florida for showcases. The big one out here is the Surf Cup in San Diego, which is basically a college recruiting showcase. Not unusual to have 5k people at the championship games, mostly college recruiters. The game schedules, with rosters, are posted and sent to the colleges so they know which kid they want to see is playing where and when.
Same for volleyball. My youngest has played power league and her team has competed in national championship tournaments the past 2 years. When the parents pay $2-4k for their kids to play, you don't get the kids who don't want to be there.
For comparison, let's start a spring power football league. Charge $1,000 per player for a club football team, and they will be competing against other teams, with possible national exposure. How much value do you think that they would place on playing HS ball? What if there were 200 high schools playing football in your state (1,500 here in Cali), but there was also a spring premier league that had 20 teams in the state, with a state playoff and possibly a regional/competition, and each player was paying to be there, and what you got was the majority of DI/DII kids playing each other. Who would the college scouts be going to see/recruit, Big Johnny playing Little Sisters, or Big Johnny playing Big Dave?
We had FB players miss parts of double-days and 1 missed the week 1 games for baseball showcases. Just moved them down on the depth chart and go on.
With the cost of higher education rising all the time parents are grasping at anything that will possibly get their kid noticed.
For us, we pay for the power league volleyball because my daughter just likes to compete and knows that college vball probably isn't in her future - too short at 5'9". She want's to play at that level because she loves the game. She loves to compete on a team that is very competitive vs. playing for her HS team that won 1 match last year.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 24, 2010 14:55:36 GMT -6
are you wanting to build your own from scratch or use templates and layouts and calendars that are provided? I use eteamz.com for our site. Has all kinds of features that I would not want to try and recreate.
As far as length goes/too many names use the tinyurl.com service. Just a redirect to the longer site name. No cost or anything. Your site name would be tinyurl.com/mygreatsite
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Post by hsrose on Feb 20, 2010 9:22:56 GMT -6
Had a kid this season, who will be a very solid LBer one day but is offensively challenged. He thinks he's a RB, when in reality, he'd be a great center if he commited to it. He missed a couple practices early last season because of a back injury. (Not sure how legit that was) but when he came back he said "So...uh...my doctor doesn't think I should play O-Line anymore. That's where I hurt it and it really hurts getting in and out of the stance. He says I'll be fine to play Mike Linebacker though." I still don't know whether to laugh or be ticked. I had that same situation this past year. Dad even went so far as to get a Dr. not saying that the kid could not play OL because it strained his back. Could play FB and OLB, but not OL (OT in an Option offense, he was nasty). Went round and round until the AD stepped in and said either the kid is 100% cleared or the kid is 100% not cleared. Kid never saw another down of offense.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 18, 2010 12:27:13 GMT -6
My personal video preferences:
Coaching/game DVD's - Remove all audio
Player highlights - Remove all audio
Team Highlights - All game audio is removed unless it is the cheering from the game winning play. Then I just mute down the music and have the sounds. I did this when one of our guys blocked an 2 OT PAT that got us to the championship game.
Now, when I get to the background music for the team highlights:
On the one hand: Audio is replaced with music that sets and/or works with the theme/emotion of the plays. Songs with vocals work and are instrumental in setting the overall feeling of the highlights. This takes time to synch the clips to the audio.
On the other hand: The audio is there to keep part of the brain from wandering off somewhere else. In that mode I use audio that has no vocals. The style is usually moving, upbeat, etc. and is often tied into the emotion of the clips. I use a lot of tracks from freeplaymusic.com for this type of highlights.
It also gets into how the highlights are organized - game by game in a somewhat linear fashion? Or all the big offensive plays in somewhat random sequence (run plays followed by passes), followed by the defensive plays (big hits followed by sacks followed by picks)? Or are players highlighted so Johnnies plays are lumped together as part of the flow. If this is linear then the music is less important and tends to flow for the whole presentation, not just the specific clips/sequence.
I usually follow the season in a linear mode. Hit Play and it starts with the off-season then game 1 then game 2. I also add DVD menu's so the user can access each game separately, not just "skip to next" after hitting Play.
I have an opening sequence that shows the roster/players and coaches, record, overview of the season. 30-45 seconds and then into the highlights.
I usually have an off-season/preparation sequence that shows the weight room, summer training, double-days, activities, etc. The music for that is upbeat and energetic.
I always have a "Goodbye" sequence for the departing seniors and coaches/staff. That's where I use the sad/lonely/goodbye music. We use tape on the lockers for their names. I tape a hand (mine) peeling the tape of the locker. Slow it down, manipulate the video (black and white, fades, something), add slow sad music and there are tears everywhere.
I also print the CD's using an inkjet printer. These cost about $100-200 and work very well. Can do a lot with these. I also print all of our master and exchange DVD's.
That's way too much for the original question, but that's what I've done the past 7 seasons. I'm also Mac-based and use miniDV tapes as the source format.
Music I'm looking at for this season include One of us is going down - Sick Puppies I will be heard - Hatebreed Every breath you take - Police - for the summer/pre-season sequence. We're watching everything you do kind of impression.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 17, 2010 12:57:49 GMT -6
When I took over I had 2 guys that remained from the previous staff, the others left for other places. One coach had been there for 8 years, the other was a new teacher, at the school & staff for 2 years. The older one was very happy to take the new direction and work within what I wanted. We had coached together for 5 years and were comfortable with the change in status. The younger one knew everything and didn't like the option and didn't want to coach the option and didn't want to coach the option to the QB's. Something I didn't realize that until week 3/4. If I had done more work with him up front, instead of relying on what I thought I knew/assumed, I would have found that out earlier and made changes to assignments. My not doing the due diligence on everyone, even those I thought I knew, cost me and the team.
The other coaches I brought in were guys that I had worked with for some time and could trust. We were experienced and worked very well together.
When I was let go the younger coach got the team and has cleaned house. He brought back nobody. He's bringing back coaches that were there when he played there and coached before I took over. He's having some problems as he's young and doesn't have the personal contacts to get older coaches in.
I think that if I were to take over a team that had a complete staff in place I would be very hesitant about proceeding too quickly. I would spend a lot of personal time with them to make sure that they could, and would, work with my vision. If not, then I would move them out. It's hard enough to be a HC without having to question the reliability of your staff.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 3, 2010 11:09:54 GMT -6
I was at a clinic last week and purchased a couple of the popular coaches training DVD's. First time I’ve purchased any of these. I also hadn't watched any of these DVD's in the past. So I had no idea what the presentation would be like.
Let’s just say that I was less than impressed by these DVD's. It wasn't the content, that was fine, it was the supporting materials - the video cutups and what was used to show the plays and assignments. The process for explaining the techniques of the Next Great Thing is a fairly simplistic thing and the presenters seemed to do a decent job. Voices were from the "commoners" and their presentation skills were variable, something I can handle. They knew their stuff and could cram the message into my little pea brain. I can accept that side of things.
But the video was a recording of what looked like a VHS-based projection on a wall. The players were red and white glowing blobs moving around on a greenish/brownish background. “Video Calibration” messages kept coming up in sequences along with other VHS-type messages. Recording a recording being projected works, but Good Golly Miss Molly, is that the best these production outfits can do? Colors were off, there was no differentiation between the players, and one segment looked like a red Boise State playing at home – red uniforms on a reddish-brown field made them all but disappear.
And the use of the laser pointer looked like a psychotic firefly - I couldn’t see what was being highlighted at all. But, I saw that at the clinic presentations as well. Note to self: When using a laser pointer, move slowly so the audience can register what I’m trying to highlight.
The DVD’s were released in 2009 so I know the technology is available to have good video. I can deal with Coach Sam doing his best in front of the camera, that situation would affect me as well. But the state of video processing today would seem to be much higher than what I saw. Again, my concern is with the video and supporting technology, not the content.
So, the bottom line - Is this level of video production typical for the coaching DVD’s? Is the video dependent solely on the production capabilities of the coach generating the content? If the production is dependent on the coach then the production companies are adding very little to the product (integration, marketing and distribution?). Their reputation is dependent on the coach and that means they have nothing behind the pretty little box. That means that anyone with a camera and some production smarts and a web site can compete with them.
I hope that what I got was the exception rather than the rule. Conversely, if what I saw is typical for the production capabilities then I’m way more advanced/capable than I thought, which bothers me a bit.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 30, 2010 20:19:38 GMT -6
After going Saturday I can now say why this got negative vibes. The vendors closed and were gone at 2PM when the afternoon sessions started. The sessions were much weaker today than Th/Fri. The speakers were not as good and the topics were not as mainstream/of interest. Attendance seemed to be way down as well. If I were to attend Saturday only I would not come back. But I still managed to learn some things, stole some ideas, but it wasn't nearly as productive as the other days.
I think that going earlier/not so close to recruit signing might help get some more college coaches, but its the HS coaches I want to hear for details. I want to see the college guys for concepts. It might also be that folks want an excuse to take a day off from work on Friday but not give up a personal weekend day.
I'm going to add my 2-cents to the organizer as it needs help on day 3. I can't imagine how sparse it will be tomorrow morning.
Regardless, I have a notepad that is full and has just a few pages left. Ideas, vendors, drills, sayings, it was well worth the time and money.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 29, 2010 22:42:19 GMT -6
There once was a coach who went to a football trade show. Each day as he entered, the coach told the guard at the door: “I am a great thief, renowned for my feats of shoplifting. Be forewarned, for this clinic shall not escape unplundered.”
This speech disturbed the guard greatly, because there were millions of dollars of football equipment inside, so he watched the coach carefully. But the coach merely wandered from booth to booth, humming quietly to himself, and attended a number of sessions with other coaches.
When the coach left, the guard took him aside and searched his clothes, but nothing was to be found.
On the next day of the clinic, the coach returned and chided the guard saying: “I escaped with a vast booty yesterday, but today will be even better. ”So the guard watched him ever more closely, but to no avail.
On the final day of the clinic, the guard could restrain his curiosity no longer. “Sir Thief,” he said, “I am so perplexed, I cannot live in peace. Please enlighten me. What is it that you are stealing?”
The coach smiled. “I am stealing ideas,” he said.
------------- Today I escaped the clinic with a vast booty of ideas and new contacts.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 29, 2010 9:01:42 GMT -6
I learned a lot from Pollack(?) (CSM) last night, mostly about how he setup his program, the player leadership council, running practices, and team goal setting and working those goals down to individual player assignments on the plays. We ran the flexbone last year so his talk on the veer was spot on, but his presentation on play action passing was eye-opening on how he had simplified it. Couple of drills and how they ran the scout periods was like "Wow, I could have had a V8" kind of moment. Found it very worthwhile.
I'm also going to Glazier in Santa Clara, and the Nike COY in Concord. Tempted to hit these same clinics in Denver and Las Vegas (family in CO and wife vacation in LV).
But while I know the speakers may not always be the best (week before signing may be an issue), the the opportunity to talk (network) with coaches from Logan, Foothill, Dougherty Valley, Calaveras, CMS, Chabot, and Cal High in a short time in a local venue is pretty valuable. I was introduced to 4 coaches from schools that I've coached against and our common bond of competing against each other gave us a reason for talking with each other.
Glazier in SC was physically cramped last year. Nice facility, but having everything down that main hallway made the transition times very rush-hour like. I didn't see much of a difference in the topics or quality of the speakers and I've got to figure there are more vendors at NorCal than Glazier SC.
However, your mileage may vary.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 15, 2010 11:25:55 GMT -6
Dougherty Valley. Irvington decided to go with an on-campus teacher so I was let go after 7 months. I'll probably see you guys at the DVHS camp in July.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 15, 2010 9:11:45 GMT -6
I'm in the same section as coachbdud (NorCal, North Coast, NCS), played his team the past 2 seasons. The section office basically shuts down from the last hole of the men's golf championship until the start date in August. When that happens you can do whatever you want. You could setup a full contact summer league with any other schools in the area. Subject to approval of the schools to use their equipment and facilities.
At my former school we would go to a 1-week full contact camp put on by the school that I'm going to be with this year. We could have double-day practices in full gear 7 days a week if we wanted.
If you want some details on the logistics of this let me know and I'll see if I can ping the HC who has been putting this on for several years.
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Post by hsrose on Jan 12, 2010 8:03:44 GMT -6
During the non-league games we will bring a JV up to varsity and Freshmen up to JV for the games. Once in awhile, and only as-needed. JV play just before the varsity and they can't play in both games. Once league starts, and a player has played in a varsity game, he can't go back down to the JV level. They have to be 15 to play on varsity so most Freshmen are hit and miss on that one. So we can't dress everyone for the varsity games, only those that will be contributing on a regular basis.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 22, 2009 13:48:31 GMT -6
Schools that play football and corresponding enrollment figures from the CIF site:
Area Schools Enrollment NorCal 429 579992 SoCal 633 1253764 Total 1062 1833756
Not sure how many leagues there are in the state. The logistics of coming up with a state playoff system are a bit daunting. Doable, but it would take some real planning and substantial changes to the existing structures.
Distribution by section: Area # Schools Enrollment NorCal 429 579992 CC 97 146759 N 48 30844 NC 119 151362 O 6 8627 SF 12 18216 SJ 147 224184 SoCal 633 1253764 C 90 137893 LA 55 163149 S 398 795539 SD 90 157183
Grand Total 1062 1833756
The Southern Section has 398 schools playing football with an enrollment of 795,539 students.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 21, 2009 10:04:48 GMT -6
Crenshaw jumped out to a 14-0 lead in Q1 on a 43 yard td and a 14? yard td. Looked like they would run away with it. DLS tied the game at 14 and then the stud RB for Crenshaw twisted an ankle. DLS went on to win 28-14. Their OL is impressive. Very physical battle. The DLS QB is a soph, several starters are sophs and jrs.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 17, 2009 10:04:31 GMT -6
johnknight - Like I said, oddball. Trying to get more participation from the school and students. Split any $$ between ASB/class year/club and football. Just something to get more involvement with the school. Something that pretty much anyone can do without having to break a sweat or wash a car.
Just an idea.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 16, 2009 13:57:47 GMT -6
an oddball idea struck me while walking back from lunch after reading this post. Has anyone tried a Read-a-thon? Not fleshed out but could be away to get the academics (reading) coupled with the athletic. Do a school-wide thing where for 2-3 weeks each English class would set aside 30 minutes for reading. The class reads for the time, count the pages, and use that for sponsors. Have to be bigger sponsors to go with this. Gets the whole school involved (how committed is your administration), gets a lot of press, and maybe earn some funds.
Any thoughts on this? Like I said, not fleshed out and lots of potholes, but I like the concept.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 16, 2009 10:25:53 GMT -6
emptybackfield - Yes, yes we do. Sell our own discount cards, beg-a-thons, a deal with the 49ers as an outlet to market their games, dinner out, breakfast out, car washes, anything to bring in a buck. All kinds of stuff.
I took over the program with a $9k debt from the previous coach so I was supposed to pay back $4.5 but could only manage $2. Throw fundraising in on top of trying to organize the team and the HC becomes the GM. The boosters are general athletics, not football specific. They will generally help out but it has to be on forms and signed and counter-signed and presented twice to get approval.
[side note: I was let go last week after 7 months because the AD wanted someone on-campus. So, to paraphrase Simba in the Lion King, this is no longer my concern.]
This is one of the reasons that I think that HS club football could be successful. The only thing thing that we're not doing, club-wise, is the initial startup investment and facilities (which can be rented). I always kind of envied the programs that had money, but the good side is that there are no more cuts possible. Cut the coaches stipends but that comes from the $50 pay-to-play so that would go away as well.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 15, 2009 11:00:43 GMT -6
Not sure what bugets you guys are talking about. The only funding we received from the school/district is the stipends for the coaches which comes from a $50 pay-to-play fee that goes to the district. We receive $2,500 for helmets and shoulder pads each year from the school. Other than that we are totally self-funded and are still expected to pay for the rest of the athletic program through the gate from the games - we don't get any of that.
So, cutting the budgets doesn't affect us much here as we don't have one.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 16, 2009 20:54:20 GMT -6
My goal is to build a program that will play De La Salle/your local dominant team for the section championship each season. We will never get there, but if that is my goal, and I setup a program to achieve that goal, then the program will improve. Along the way there will be pep rally's, half-time events, etc. I will probably evolve into more of a general manager than a hands-on head coach, but I've got a good staff and we are listening to the same tune.
Our motto this season was "We got who we got, we are what we are, let's go"
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Post by hsrose on Nov 15, 2009 23:51:00 GMT -6
TD - In my case it's not that they won't let me do something, the school just seems to tolerate the football program. It's like the administration seems to place no value (support) on the program, but yet talks like it's very important.
I was hired after a 30 minute interview. There were 5 candidates for the job. We all got a 30 minute, timed closely, window. 1 was doing it for the experience. 1 was from out of the area and already had an offer. 1 was on campus but they couldn't guarantee his position the next year. 1 had been there for some time but was not very organized, and then there was me. They had 10 questions and we went as far as we could. After that the panel made the decision. 30 minutes to make the decision on the HC. They made the recommendation to the principal, who concurred, and that was that.
Told in my hire meeting that they didn't care if the team was 0-10 the next 3 years as long as the players were "good examples of the school and community" and we didn't verbally assault the players like "all those youth coaches always do", knowing that my staff and I coached there for 4 years before coming to the school. No pressure to win, almost like winning is a bad thing.
AD tells me how much the athletic department depends on the gate receipts from the football games (implied: win so we get butts in the seats so we can buy new hats for the water polo team) but then does nothing to get anyone there. The football program is self-funded and the gate receipts go to the athletic department, not the football program.
No Half-time activities. No band, drumline, guy with a guitar, nothing at the games other than homecoming and sr. night. Turns out the band has to attend 2 games to get their grade for the semester. They have to march once so that is at the sr. night. One of the local schools gets attendance at the games by making it part of the grade - go to the game and get 15 points or something. All the kids sit in the stands and study for SAT or do the homework.
No athletic PE period will be considered as the registration problems would be immense and just not workable.
Ask that I have the Freshmen get weekly academic progress reports signed by the VP before they can play in the game each Thursday. Problem is that there are several teachers that won't sign a progress report unless it is on a Friday. They know the situation and the VP works around/with it, but it tears the Freshmen up pleading with the teachers to sign.
Not play a Star Spangled Banner at two of our home games this season. Not even a recording. Ref's looked around, then finally signaled to start the game. No color guard at any game the past 2 years.
Rule that 45% of the players are academically ineligible 1 week before our first game. The players fault, no problem with that, but then offer no suggestions on how to get players out. Would not let me combine the freshmen and sophomores into a frosh/soph team when I tell them the numbers are low even after players come out. It would be "too embarrassing". No JV team for our first game. I was still accepting players the 2nd week of school. We played the last game of the season with 16 on Freshmen and 14 on JV (6 were Freshmen). Varsity had 26, of which 17 were seniors. Opposing coaches, and fans, just shake their heads. We're a school of 2,100. The badminton team typically has over 80 players and sometimes 100+. The numbers should be a lot better but there's no excitement or expectations on playing football.
Offer no suggestions on transportation to games other than "its up to you". We had busses to 2 games this season at $2,100 total and that's through the district (monopoly). Funds came from the team fundraising, not from the school.
No feedback on anything during the season. No shaking hands/talking after the games. Not even sure the administration attended the games.
Not a single pep rally for football all year. There were "rallys" but they are non-specific and are for all groups and organizations. Football coaches were never asked to attend any rally this year. Football players, seniors, did do one skit but it was as the football team participating in the rally, not as a rally for the football team.
Pemit the ASB to schedule dances on game nights - twice. We play at a stadium that is about 3 miles from the school to students could to one or the other.
No active things against the program, just thought there might be some more active support FOR the program. I'm a first year HC so this might be the norm, but I sure thought I'd have just a bit more help here and there.
We got our butts kicked this year, 2-8, but we were in all but 2 games and 7 of our 10 opponents are in the playoffs.
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