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Post by hsrose on Dec 8, 2010 13:57:20 GMT -6
JUCO's in Kansas - Awhile back we were looking at a transfer to Colorado and my son was still in HS. Found out that CO has no JUCO football so all the kids go to Kansas to play.
JC ball in CA is pretty darn good. I think there are like 120+ schools in CA that play football. I've been impressed with the level of players I've seen here. Not all of them by any means, but a lot of drop-backs and guys that didn't have the grades to get in right away.
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Post by hsrose on Dec 8, 2010 8:25:22 GMT -6
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Post by hsrose on Dec 2, 2010 14:14:02 GMT -6
To any of you who has done a golf outing/tournament could you please PM me with the details? Our HC is talking about this but none of us have done it and I would like to see what it entails and how to work things. Not just the concepts, but the nuts and bolts of how to run the event.
Thanks
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Post by hsrose on Dec 1, 2010 14:29:02 GMT -6
Password is tripleoption public.me.com/c.kesterI'll leave this up for a few days. Came from here way back when. I'll be adding in what is listed so far. Thanks for this thread.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 30, 2010 0:22:00 GMT -6
How about the teams that don't have "it"? There is a team in the area that is the largest in NorCal - 4,000+ students. They are right next to the BART public transit system and used to get a lot of players out of Oakland the the Hwy 880 corridor. Don't think that happens so much these days, schools changed their transfer rules. They have the athletes, couple in the pros, and should be a power to rival De La Salle. But they don't.
They play in weak league and while they schedule a good pre-season, they are hardly ever challenged in league. They have gone 1st, and maybe 2nd round in the playoffs. They can beat the snot out of the league, get the league champ patch, get the playoff patch, and then spend Thanksgiving at home. This year they are 8-3 with a 26-6 first round loss. Last year they were 7-4 with a 59-37 first round loss.
They should be great. I'm not sure why they aren't. They have the athletes (several RB's/WR's have been nationally ranked track stars), they have the booster support, they have good coaches (I think), but it never works for them. Why aren't they great? What is preventing them from becoming a true power?
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Post by hsrose on Nov 24, 2010 11:12:25 GMT -6
When I played oh so many years ago, the defense got stickers for points. Points for tackles, sacks, picks, etc. X points per sticker so they were earned. Team got stickers for a shutout.
Offensively we got stickers for more team things. Guys got a ball for scoring a TD, but everyone got stickers for yards rushed and such.
Where I'm coaching now we don't do stickers at the JV (my level) but they do at the varsity level. Not sure for what, haven't talked with them about it.
If I were King then it would include academics and service as well as football.
One type of sticker for GPA >3, smaller one for 100% on a test or project. Another design for service to the school and/or community. Another design for off-season participation, strength increase, etc. For the season I would go with different defensive, offensive, and special teams designs.
I think that the idea behind award decals is to reward the player with something that the other players realize has been earned. After a time the decals become almost like tribal tattoos in that they tell the story of the player - what he did, what he accomplished. Is he a player with no academics or service, or is he the whole package - service, academics, football, participation, etc. Like looking at the letterman jackets with all the awards such listed on them.
But, the bottom line is that for the most part (except for team goals - shutouts, >200 yard rushing kind of thing) they have to be earned.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 12, 2010 10:23:50 GMT -6
This discussion on the importance of footwork prompted me to dig up this file that I put together when I was coaching OL. Folks are talking attention to detail and the necessity for the footwork, I think that this takes that footwork concept and extends it just a bit to include the base techniques. I coached the OL for 2 years and was not successful in the eyes of the HC so that didn't last. I got the job because I was the only guy left standing at the meeting. It was a new HC and staff so the first year or 2 weren't good and once we started getting really organized I went to QB's. We are a triple option team and run midline, sweep, wedge (off-tackle power), lead/Iso. Trap/pull every other season or so it seems. Couple of other plays periodically but that's the core. Anyway, during that time I put this Powerpoint file together so I could start teaching the OL in a systematic fashion. I stole, borrowed, talked, read, etc. to put this together. I was trying to learn this and trying to stay 1-step ahead of the players. If this helps, more power to you. Comments are welcome. public.me.com/c.kesterPassword is tripleoption
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Post by hsrose on Nov 9, 2010 14:15:39 GMT -6
Colleges and pros, highly unlikely. High schools are generally open, they're "public" property, but best to call the coach and talk with him, make it "official" as someone wandering around practice with a camera or something would arouse the attention of a coach.
Most coaches I know wouldn't have a problem if you wanted to come by. But call first.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 9, 2010 12:06:22 GMT -6
Here is the link to the NCS (North Coast Section) football page. NCS regular season competition ends this weekend, 11/12-13. The seeding meeting will be Sunday, 11/13, and then this page will be updated with the full brackets. No way of telling now who will be playing where when until the seeding meetings are done. cifncs.org/sports/football/If you have tickets to the Stanford-Oregon St. game on the 27th, and then the Raiders-Miami game on the 28th, then you will likely be in the area for the 2nd round of NCS playoffs. They will play both Friday and Saturday nights. Depending on time and energy level, you might be able to see a CCS (Central Coast Section) or NCS game on Friday night, Stanford on Saturday afternoon, and then a WCAL or NCS game that night. Sounds like a very full football weekend.
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Post by hsrose on Nov 4, 2010 6:04:43 GMT -6
You mean YouTube type stuff or commercial stuff we like. Here is a midline clip I did of our team from 08 & 09.
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Post by hsrose on Oct 5, 2010 14:26:13 GMT -6
We lost a Sr. yesterday, 4-year player. We're 5 games into our regular season, 6 weeks (bye & 5 games) left. Walks into the DC's classroom and says football was not fun for him anymore. Was a part-time starter, got lots of playing time, kind of perplexing.
Earlier this season a Soph. quit because he got a detention and his dad made him quit. HC tried to talk to the dad but he stood firm and the kid turned in his gear.
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Post by hsrose on Sept 22, 2010 8:45:21 GMT -6
NM
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Post by hsrose on Sept 17, 2010 12:58:54 GMT -6
We (a mostly senior staff) finally got tired of all the Thursday Goof-off's we've had in our careers so we're going with Thursday as a regular practice day. I don't think anyone ever felt that Thursday was worth anything, everyone knew it was a review day and that most everyone was looking to get out as soon as possible. We go 2-2.5 hrs, like a regular practice.
We now go full pads, offense, defense, special teams, running scout, EDD's, the whole thing. Goes along with a return to wishbone option/lead, lets get in a 4-pt stance and hit 'em in the mouth philosophy. Hitting is mostly against bags but it is just as spirited as during the rest of the week. Nobody has been hurt, but at the same time we aren't backing down on it either.
It's just a regular practice day.
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Post by hsrose on Sept 16, 2010 7:52:19 GMT -6
We haven't had any concussions yet, but that's #1 on the worry list. Seems any play that has anything resembling a hit to the head has the entire training staff around him. Don't get me wrong, I think that it's good to be careful, but it seems that we've gone to another extreme here, from kids playing and not remembering the game, to the kid's head hit the ground, get him out. Anyone see this article? www.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20100915/Notre.Dame-Crist/Blurring vision would scare the snot out of me if I had a player in that way, or if it was my son and that happened.
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Post by hsrose on Sept 8, 2010 12:35:14 GMT -6
I really liked the Boise uniforms, but could drop the grey blocks. Thought those were sweat patterns until I realized that they were the same on every player. I liked their logo that used more of the helmet. Didn't get the patterns and colors of the VaTech numbers and trim.
One of the HS teams in our area, used to play them, went all black in their uniforms this season. They were black and orange (they had all orange set which was hideous, even messed with the color balance on the camcorders), so going black isn't that big of a change. But they only had their orange logo (paw print) in orange on their pants and helmet. Everything else was black.
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Post by hsrose on Aug 19, 2010 12:52:20 GMT -6
I normally do that each year, but this year the CIF has decided not to post that information/removed it. They used to have NorCal and SoCal pdf's that had all the schools, levels, and enrollments. I called them and they say that you now have to go to each section.
That was always a good source to see the very clear disparity between the two sections. Rough numbers - 1,000 or so schools, about 1.5m total enrollment. SoCal 2/3, NorCal 1/3 on schools and enrollment.
They may have the new versions after October.
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Post by hsrose on Aug 12, 2010 7:55:02 GMT -6
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Post by hsrose on Aug 2, 2010 22:56:51 GMT -6
Got this idea after talking with my son who is playing JC ball and we were talking about how their practices are organized by platoons, with the offense wearing white and the defense wearing black. That got me to thinking about how we could organize our double-days a bit better.
Anyone ever tried full platooning, not for offense/defense, but JV-Varsity? What we're looking at is splitting the full team, about 80 players, into the Blue (JV) and White (Var). They are already wearing these jerseys for our summer practices so a natural division is already there.
We are looking at going double-days (2-2 hr sessions, starting at 3, with an hour in between), but in the 1st session the Blue is working offense and the White is working defense. They are exclusive, the Blue's don't interact with the Whites until warm-ups, team time, if then, and conditioning. Maybe special teams (Blue does punt, White does punt return, then run against each other at some time). These would be for the full session. In the next session they reverse and Blue is defense, White is offense.
The coaches are already pretty much split into O and D, with the exception of 1-2 swing guys. There are 9 guys on the staff so that would be 4 for offense, 4 for defense, and 1 for special teams (his assignment already).
The objective would be to have a group focus on defense or offense for the full period, which we think would give them more attention (10 wr's instead of 20, 3 qb's instead of 5-6), coaches would work their area of expertise instead of changing gears all the time (I'm an offensive coach, and have coached DE's, but I know I was not as good there as I was with QB's and WR's). Hopefully they will be able to teach their positions better by being able to focus on that position.
This also ensures that the coaches will have time to focus on the JV and on the varsity and not have to split time during the session, making it so that there is no issue getting reps/quality reps. I think that it is a natural inclination for a coach to focus on the varsity instead of the JV players. Each squad would have sufficient players to run scout teams and such so there wouldn't be a need to have the JV be the scout for the the varsity.
Not sure this is as clear as it could be, we're still working the concept.
Anyone ever tried something like this?
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Post by hsrose on Jul 31, 2010 10:58:53 GMT -6
I use a variation of the page pouch thing I found, about $5. There are 10 of the page protectors sealed together and 3-hole punched. I use that for practice all week and in the game. Lets me get all my play calls, if-then info, fronts, situations, roster, scouting information, pretty much anything I want in there. Folds up nice for the back pocket. I usually print double-side print on card stock so there is a nice heft to it. Probably not what the single-sheet guys would like, but again, I use that all week to make sure I get everything in, keep notes, etc.
I also use these for putting all the conditioning drills, passing drills, play diagrams, scout offense for the week, etc. into a nice little package.
Avery® Diamond Clear Bound Sheet Protectors 74301, Acid Free, 10-Page Set
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Post by hsrose on Jul 20, 2010 12:57:18 GMT -6
patrick24espor - We always have a team highlight video. Free copy to the players, coaches, staff, and "administration". We then print and label 10 copies of each game (takes a few hours) and the highlights and then sell them for $5 at the post-season dinner. Mom and dad and aunt Joanie like to see Johnny in the game more than just the highlights. We have done a pre-order where the parents could let us know what DVD's they wanted.
Works out pretty well.
We print using an Epson inkjet printer and the white printable DVD's. If you have a duplicator then it is easy to dupe the number of DVD's, and then sit and print them. Used to use the plastic carriers but went with the paper envelopes. Not a cost thing, more of a storage and convenience thing. Total cost per DVD is along the lines of $0.75 or (usually much) less.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 19, 2010 22:30:28 GMT -6
42falcon -for about $500 you can get 1000 cards printed up. Takes about 2-3 weeks to get local vendors to sign up. We've done the cards for years but did it ourselves last year (old school). Worked well, one of the only things that did work.
Difference is that the services charge the vendors for ad placement and they also get dinged for the discount. One of the teem moms did the leg work. Did 2 sets of cards with the same vendors - football &volleyball. Different designs but same vendors.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 15, 2010 14:09:30 GMT -6
cwlee66 - How did you do the printing? I've looked this as well but haven't gotten serious about the printing logistics.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 8, 2010 11:57:28 GMT -6
In high school my soph. year we played Imperial HS for the section championship. We were at Paso Robles, pretty much the northernmost school in the CIF Southern Section, Imperial is just above the Mexican border. 416 miles 1 way. Lost 13-6.
The next year we played at 29 Palms, that was only 350 miles. Won 42-18.
These are not the "lets go out of state for a pre-season game", these were regular games. I know there are probably longer games in Texas, but that is still a far ways to travel.
Traveling 90-120 miles was a normal occurrence given we were a farming community.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 6, 2010 12:45:24 GMT -6
Best thing I've seen so far is the practice timer. The new team I'm with has used it the past 2 seasons and they are very happy with it. From what I've seen in spring and summer workouts it's a pretty important thing to have. The practice activities are listed by session number which shows on the timer. Horn blows and you move on. No "one more rep", no "just a minute coach" things. You have to get your coaching done in the time allocated or you get left behind.
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Post by hsrose on Jul 3, 2010 8:22:39 GMT -6
One of the teams in our area is known for having "technique nights" (Jan- April) where the OL & DL are taught specific techniques as well as play assignments and adjustments. On Saturdays they would have gatherings in the gym and run through plays. By the time they got to the spring ball in May they had they offense and defense in, repped, depth chart pretty well set, and used spring ball to go over the details of the passing game.
I have not personally seen this but I have spoken with players, who are now coaches, that said this has gone on at the school as long as they can remember. A coach I know described the workouts they were doing this off-season and it was a practice - balls, receivers being thrown to, QB's taking drops, speed training, coaches working on footwork and technique.
The old-time coach that started all this is reported to have said "What are they (the league and section officials) going to do, put a letter in my folder at their office? I'm not going anywhere, what do I care?"
If cheating would't fly in the classroom, why would I do that with a sports team?
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Post by hsrose on Jun 16, 2010 11:48:08 GMT -6
We've done 2 sessions so far and getting 55 or so, 10-12. Frosh are separate. Warmups, 15m of agility (dots, boxes), 90 min of weights, 20 min of running, 30 min of off/def.
What are your objectives for summer workouts? Maintain? Get stronger? How about conditioning? Any speed work? What do you do and why? Are your workouts done because it is a "tradition" or do you have a plan for what you want the players to accomplish?
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Post by hsrose on Jun 4, 2010 21:47:54 GMT -6
Pay to play - I always tried to have some funding arrangement where if a player had a tough time making the pay to play that they could sell 5 cards or buckets of dough or something to work off the fee. If I were still the HC I would have considered making the card fund raiser the method for doing the pay to play for everyone.
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Post by hsrose on Jun 4, 2010 7:42:54 GMT -6
The school I was at for the past 5 years had $0 direct support from the school. The district gives each HS (there are 5) in the district $5k for safety equipment each year. That was the amount they gave in 1983 as well. The football program got $2.5k one year and the full $5k the next. The money was for helmets and shoulder pads, catcher’s masks, softball shin guards, basic safety gear for all the teams. They did cover the maintenance of the fields and the referees and such. But no direct contributions to the team. The kids had to pay $50 as the pay-to-play (all sports) and that was supposed to go to pay the coaches stipends. The football program got 5 paid stipends, I don’t know what the other programs had for paid positions. The team had to raise all other funds either from team activities, donations, or from the athletic booster club. We had no buses ($1,400 to get the JV and varsity to/from a game 40 miles away), uniforms, pads, bags, field paint, tape, video tape, awards, that we didn’t raise the money for ourselves. The football games apparently brought in $16-22k per year which went to the athletic department to support the other, smaller programs. We never saw those funds. At my new school, which is in a “richer” demographic area, the pay-to-play is substantially higher across the board but that is because the district does not cover all the things that the other district covered. The link below is for the Spring parents so they can understand the fee a bit better. www.dvwildcats.com/sports/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AthleticContributions.SPRING2.pdfWe’re just finishing spring ball and the players are selling cookie dough to earn their $120 for the summer weight program. After that they will do cards and something else. I know that it’s always easy to go after the administrative fat cats with their big salaries, but what would it take for you to do that job? I’m not saying that there aren’t a lot of low-hanging fruit in the admin/superintendent area, but would you want that job? Based on what I saw at the previous school, what the guy had to deal with on a daily basis, I wouldn’t want that job at all. It seems that the HS athletics are slowly becoming our own little fiefdoms - we will be earning the stipends by running our own summer camps, charging for weight rooms, and generally starting to operate as a club-type operation. In some ways I think type of operation may be preferable to the current operating model.
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Post by hsrose on May 28, 2010 11:35:16 GMT -6
Make sure you check the wrestling score cards, I tried to use ours last year but they had minimal numbers so I couldn't use it.
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Post by hsrose on May 4, 2010 23:31:10 GMT -6
Rooster.
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