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Post by dbeck84 on Feb 3, 2016 7:40:23 GMT -6
admittedly I have not read the thread in it's entirety but I have an observation and a completely unsubstantiated theory. I can see where the concussion hysteria could be lead by the helmet industry to sell more expensive helmets. I'm not saying this is what's going on, I'm just saying lets not pretend that the media has not been manipulated to cause a panic in the public in the name of money before. Observation: I am not saying the concussion stuff isn't real, but I think the concussion protocol is getting to a point that is starting to be counter productive. As coaches we all know if a kid has any kind of headache, and he's been playing football, he enters the concussion protocol. I've actually had a kid held out by a trainer for a concussion, when upon a visit to a doctor he was diagnosed with a sinus infection. (that's a true story). But to my point, anytime a player has any kind of concussion it is a guaranteed 2 weeks out. Which I'm not saying is right or wrong, all I'm saying is if I am a kid and I know complaining about a headache, dizziness, etc. is going to sit me for 2 weeks minimum...I don't think I'm going to let the trainer know about my headache and dizziness and hope it goes away in a few days. We are starting to see more and more kids avoid the trainer or will see the trainer but tell them "it's a stinger" just because of the cautious way concussions are handled. We currently have a girl's basketball player who has been out 3 weeks with a "concussion". She's out, she's been out and she's still going to be out because the "test" given to her by the trainers is a subjective test. I'm not sure what kind of test it is, I know it's a verbal test - it is not IMPACT testing. The girl in question, got elbowed in the face during a game. It didn't look like much...I've seen the film, she kept playing but they did stop the game because she thought her nose was bleeding at the end of the play. She has been cleared by 2 doctors but because she can't pass whatever verbal test they keep giving her, the trainers will not clear her to play. She is heading into week 4 of being out with a concussion. I heard her comment to another student the other day "I will never complain about a headache again unless I am knocked out cold on the court." - IMO, that's a huge issue. Even worse, we have a trainer who will tell kids they're, "probably ok, but should sit out the next couple days just to be safe." I know there are kids who hide symptoms because they know they will be sat out whether there is a problem or not.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 16, 2016 10:29:41 GMT -6
sportmanship expectations- 24. Stand for the National Anthem 11. You can't chant U-S-A Who comes up with this stuff? You are only allowed to be patriotic when they tell you to? I do get the U-S-A thing. It has come to stand for "You Suck Azz"
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 14, 2016 7:55:17 GMT -6
Does graphic edge do an online flash store?
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 13, 2016 15:27:58 GMT -6
We do not, and getting the entire athletic department and administration on board for something like that is a little more than I would like to undertake at this point.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 13, 2016 15:20:46 GMT -6
Coach is putting me in charge of getting players' gear this year. Last year we set up a flash store through a vendor and it went really well. I think I would like to do the same this year, but shop around to see what other vendors offer. We aren't really overly concerned with fundraising off of our sales as much as getting the kids in good looking gear for a good price. Where do you order your team gear from?
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Post by dbeck84 on Dec 7, 2015 12:19:13 GMT -6
I'm more shocked that the JV coaching was at a teaching conference on the day of a JV game. I don't consider myself at a sports centered school, but I could never imagine a coach being expected to miss a game.
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Post by dbeck84 on Dec 2, 2015 19:52:06 GMT -6
I will bet you everything I own not one of my linemen was a virgin coming into the season. ...evidently a lot has changed since my playing days as a lineman.
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Post by dbeck84 on Nov 24, 2015 14:15:36 GMT -6
I have a long time before I need to worry about this, my son isn't 1 yet, but I think back to my own experiences. My parents didn't allow me to play organized football until my freshman year of high school. There were some junior leagues in the area, but nothing directly tied to our high school program. My freshman year I was slightly behind others in my class, and by sophomore year I was one of the better players in my class.
At the time, of course, I hated not being able to play, but now I'm glad my parents held me out. Football was always on a pedestal to me and I couldn't wait until I was finally able to play. I think this drove me to work harder as I had been looking forward to it for so long. I also went on to play college ball. I know many players who were far better than me who didn't go on to college because they had been playing since they were 8 years old and were done with the game. I guess I would rather error on the side of leaving my son wanting more rather than giving him too much.
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Post by dbeck84 on Nov 9, 2015 11:01:29 GMT -6
One that annoys me is when our defensive coach insists on calling weak flood a levels pass. What is double dive for you? For us, it's fullback through A-gap and halfback through B, but I've heard some people use it for backs through both weak and strong A.
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Post by dbeck84 on Nov 6, 2015 14:53:17 GMT -6
I've used oskie for a defensive turnover since I first learned football. Got to my current stop, yelled oskie, and everyone looked me like I had 3 heads. They use bingo here. Same with peter. A muffed punt for us is Omaha.
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Post by dbeck84 on Oct 30, 2015 7:11:32 GMT -6
I wear a visor every once in awhile, but it's honestly mostly to piss my wife off. She hates they way I look in a visor. I have to admit my hair gets a little mushroomy.
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Post by dbeck84 on Oct 21, 2015 9:45:50 GMT -6
If you hire a first year guy to coach your varsity chances are you're not very good at hiring people. I don't know a lot of guys that are going to hire someone with no experience and expect them to be good coaches. we go into this knowing that first year coaches are awful coaches. sorry to be the one that shoots straight here, and i hate to hurt some of your lil feelings, but the truth is the first two years young guys just get in the way until they learn the game and learn how to really coach. There is a difference between adding value and opening your mouth. Add value by doing the things that nobody else wants to do, and do it before you're asked to do it. if laundry needs doing, do it. if there's trash piling up, take it out. you get the point... but i don't need your input in the meeting room unless I ask for it, and I also don't need your suggestions about how we can be more like ________ if we just do it this way. One of the hardest things I dealt with coming up was humbling myself to understand that 1. this will be a long learning process, 2. nobody wants to hear my opinions 3. this is HARD work 4. I don't know anything I thought I knew, and finally 5. these guys know more than I do. Just because I yell loud does not mean i'm a good coach. There is a lot of truth in this post, but it is not the 100% truth. While everyone improves with experience and while we all are better coaches now than we were when we started out, there are good young coaches who will just become great older coaches. I agree totally. Coaches become better by being able to voice their ideas an opinions and have a more experienced coach tell them, "That's a good idea because..." or "That won't work because...". No one will learn anything by being a glorified, or even not glorified, manager.
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Post by dbeck84 on Oct 21, 2015 9:24:31 GMT -6
What kind of "young coaches" are we talking about here? 9th grade? JV? Varsity? If you are hired to be a varsity coach, I would be furious as a HC with a coach regardless of age who "kept his mouth shut" during meetings. Don't hire a guy as a varsity coach if you don't want his opinion. I think 9th and JV coaches should always defer to the varsity staff on things. Coaches IN General should: 1. Do things that need to be done. Take pride in the program and make it better. ADD VALUE. 2. Stay within the schemes and offer well-thought out ideas and ANSWERS. 3. DO YOUR JOB. Simple, but often over looked. I wouldn't want a coach on my staff, regardless of age, who didn't want to contribute and add value to the program beyond field work. If you want to sit back while others do the grunt work (unless you are a coordinator or HC) then I don't think many HC's would want to hire guys like that regardless of whether they are young or old. If you hire a first year guy to coach your varsity chances are you're not very good at hiring people. I don't know a lot of guys that are going to hire someone with no experience and expect them to be good coaches. we go into this knowing that first year coaches are awful coaches. sorry to be the one that shoots straight here, and i hate to hurt some of your lil feelings, but the truth is the first two years young guys just get in the way until they learn the game and learn how to really coach. There is a difference between adding value and opening your mouth. Add value by doing the things that nobody else wants to do, and do it before you're asked to do it. if laundry needs doing, do it. if there's trash piling up, take it out. you get the point... but i don't need your input in the meeting room unless I ask for it, and I also don't need your suggestions about how we can be more like ________ if we just do it this way. One of the hardest things I dealt with coming up was humbling myself to understand that 1. this will be a long learning process, 2. nobody wants to hear my opinions 3. this is HARD work 4. I don't know anything I thought I knew, and finally 5. these guys know more than I do. Just because I yell loud does not mean i'm a good coach. So if I'm a young coach, and I'm not btw, and my only job is to do the bitch work that no one else wants to do, why am i going to stick around? I'll find a staff where my opinions and ideas are valued. Where are you finding these first year coaches that know absolutely nothing about the game of football?
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Post by dbeck84 on Oct 13, 2015 13:47:42 GMT -6
FBS, the problem is that if a coach is having to read this off of an internet site he is in serious trouble. The head coach and coordinators on his staff need to be doing this. He should had learned the first couple of years on how to work as a coach. Then by observing the varsity coaches he should have learned to coach. Ultimately, it is up to the HC to train the coaches under him. Some will assign coaches to do this while others will do it directly. Many HC's look for work ethic because if you can work hard and you are a teacher there is no reason you can't coach. dead nuts, 100 percent correct. well said. there is certainly some responsibility on the HC in that he can't treat his young guys like they either don't deserve his time, or that they already know everything they're supposed to know. I've seen that mistake in multiple circumstances, and that's on the head man. the majority of the time, however, at least in my experience, is that the young guy doesn't think he needs to be taught anything, and that it's an insult for someone to try to teach them about something. I've had younger guys get offended when I tried to teach them about Oline play, and this was in a scenario where I'm the OC and Oline Coach and this little pi$$ant is fresh out of college and a JH coach. Know your stinkin role and shut your little mouth. I can't imagine why someone would be hesitant to learn from you.
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Post by dbeck84 on Oct 13, 2015 12:31:23 GMT -6
Ok. I've tried to stay quiet in the interest of not hijacking this thread, but why are we singling out "young coaches"? I've seen 20 year veterans make many of the mistakes that are referenced here, and I've seen guys fresh out of college who do great things. What are we gaining by stereotyping young coaches? Could we have a similar thread about dumb stuff old coaches do?
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Post by dbeck84 on Sept 10, 2015 8:53:58 GMT -6
..when the lady at Subway starts on your sandwich when she sees your truck pull in the parking lot.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 28, 2015 9:33:27 GMT -6
How about, "You gotta want it!"...because the only reason we're screwing up is because we don't want to do things right.
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Post by dbeck84 on Aug 9, 2014 7:42:51 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with the guy, but it sounds to me like you're giving the HC too much credit. If he's been running this same offense since the early 2000's but doesn't know/care about OL blocking rules and techniques, he isn't much of a coach. He needs to be able to give you what you need for your position group to be successful.
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Post by dbeck84 on Aug 4, 2014 13:08:44 GMT -6
We are currently playing in a conference which plays varsity and sophomore games on Friday nights and freshman games on Monday nights. For as long as anyone can remember, the better freshman players would play with the sophomores on Friday and the freshmen on Monday. Our superintendent has mentioned several times over the past couple years that he believes we are putting kids at risk and leaving ourselves open for a lawsuit by playing kids on only 2 days rest. How are freshman and sophomore games handled in your program? Do you allow kids to play in both?
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 25, 2014 7:56:32 GMT -6
IMHO you owe it to the kids who show up and work hard in the off-season to put the best team on the field, even if it means starting someone else over those kids. I think when they look at the big picture, those kids would rather work their butts off to be a role player on a playoff team than to work their butts off to start on a 3-6 team.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 25, 2014 7:48:50 GMT -6
The 7-on-7's that I've attended use a 40 yard field with no clock. The first team will run 10 offensive plays from the 40 yard line, then offense and defense will switch. I believe a 0-5 yard pass is 1 point for the defense, 6-15 yard pass 1 point for offense, 16-25 is 2 points, 26-35 is 3 points, touchdown is 4 points. Defense gets like 3 points for an interception and 1 for a sack. Some places will end with each team getting 4 plays from the 5 yard line to score one touchdown.
On a somewhat unrelated note, how do you feel about filming an opposing team during 7-on-7? Recently, we were at a 7-on-7 and a team which is on our schedule for the first time this year was playing on the adjacent field. One of the player's fathers was filming the opposite team on his iPad wearing our school colors. The opposing head coach sees him and comes unglued yelling at our head coach across the fields. After the game, he comes over to our camp area and accuses us of being bush league. Our conference requires film exchange, so we are going to get game film of them before our game anyways, so I don't see why it is a big deal.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 23, 2014 7:31:27 GMT -6
There was a clinic/consolidated camp we attended at a former Boy Scout camp in the high desert near here and had several players from different school who attended. After the first day, many of the kids were around the camp fire and talking about toughness, and how their individual teams worked to that end. Bragging and bluster aside, they were saying how many Lombardi's they did before practice, some stated they did them before AND after practice...each began their "one-upsmanship" tails...how they ran the bleachers THEN did their Lombardi's, the stories getting bigger and bigger about how tough they were...except for one kid who was just sitting there, saying nothing, just listening to everyone else and stirring the hot coals...with his penis. Thanks for making me spit coffee all over my keyboard coach.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 17, 2014 8:15:39 GMT -6
It is what it is...most will say you can use the bleachers on the home side but you deal with the crowd. Visitor side bleachers are sometimes too low. Certain away games we don't use box coaches at all. What are we gonna do...kick the doors in? If my District allowed scaffolding or lifts then it wouldn't be an issue. They say it's a liability issue that was reinforced with the Notre Dame incident. It seems to bother other staffs more than me, guess I'm used to it. One other story was when I had my film guy locked out because the opposing coach thought he was bringing me info at halftime...when he was just getting a hotdog. Didn't get to film the 2nd half. Coaches protect their "boxes" around here! One opponent of a school I used to coach at had a very small pressbox with no room for opposing coaches. I coached every game from the roof of the bus. It actually turned out to be a pretty good solution to the problem.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 7, 2014 13:40:35 GMT -6
I really liked it buy my Dish Network package only carries ESPN news in SD. The split screen made things very hard to see and I could never quite tell where the ball was. I like the MST3K idea that some other people came up with. I don't need to see the coaches, just hear them.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jan 3, 2014 8:25:23 GMT -6
What about coaches trash talking other coaches? I've seen it a few times at the high school level where coaches will shout something across the field at the other sideline. Absolutely floored me. Anyone else seen anything like this?
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Post by dbeck84 on Dec 5, 2013 9:44:03 GMT -6
A little funny about this. I was not coaching this year but my son was. I sat in the stands with the ladies. Enjoyed the hell out of it, really. I see a punt rolling around and our return man is not getting away and, of course, I yelled PETER, PETER, PETER!!! The ladies looked at me like I farted in Church. They said why would you say that?? I said in 'footballese' that is the universal term for get away, don't touch that thing! They all howled with laughter, but every punt, that hit the ground, after that one the rest of the year, they all were yelling Peter, peter, peter!!! LOL!!! The staff I'm with now uses Omaha. The first time I started yelling Peter from the sideline, everyone gave me a weird look. They've also never heard of "Oskie". I always thought that was the proper call whenever the defense gets a turnover.
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Post by dbeck84 on Dec 2, 2013 11:53:12 GMT -6
It is probably been out there for years, but I just started to notice the phrase "set the edge" for defensive ends. When an OT or TE is trying to reach them, they have to "set the edge" and not give up outside leverage. I know it's not necessarily a word, per say, but your post has me thinking, too... I also assume that your vocabulary will be directly based on your respective systems as well, right? I think there are a few different things starting to be discussed here. ONE..is a generalized (even though there is no universal language in football) set of football vocabulary (things like gaps, splits, spill, EMOL) one is general terms that mean somewhat different things for different people (force, contain etc) and one is specific terms you use (FUZZ, ) You mean tier 1, tier 2, and tier 3 vocabulary? Holy crap I've been doing too much common core work lately.
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Post by dbeck84 on Aug 22, 2013 11:29:21 GMT -6
Do any of you have problems with teachers and administrators letting kids out of class to get to a game 2 hours early? It seems like that definitely wouldn't fly where I'm at.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jun 16, 2012 7:14:09 GMT -6
I've found clinic talks from alot of college guys to turn into, "Well, we just recruit linebackers who are the most athletic people on the field and the rest is gravy." I find it more constructive to talk to other high school gusy who have to play with the guys who show up.
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Post by dbeck84 on Jun 16, 2012 7:06:30 GMT -6
After having a night to think about the issue and put it in some perspective I'm a little closer to being on the fence. I like to compare the NFL players to the men in my family. One of my grandfathers was a farmer his entire life and lost his right thumb in a cornpicker long ago. Another grandfather worked in a coal mine when he was younger and has severe respiratory problems today. My step-father was a carpenter for many years and now has arthritis in his hands. None of these men ever looked for someone to sue when they started seeing physical effects of their difficult jobs. They were just glad to be able to support their families and put money on the table.
On the other side of the coin, all of these men influenced their children to do something else with their lives that was less dangerous. I see the similarity between this and the NFL players.
I guess where I run into problems is when I have to look at playing football as a business. I played division III football in college for no scholarship money. I've taken volunteer coaching opportunities in the past. For me, its about the love of the game not the money made off of the game. I suppose if football was my sole means of income things would be different. I just wish the NFL millionaires would have more respect fo the game that put them in the position of fame and fortune they are in.
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