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Post by coachphillip on Jul 23, 2014 11:01:37 GMT -6
Pretty straight forward. How do you guys like to structure a multiple team 7 on 7?
I'm thinking 10 minutes a piece, three downs to get a first, move the ball and score, finish up with maybe a college style overtime challenge for a "winner".
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Post by coachwoodall on Jul 24, 2014 9:15:48 GMT -6
most ones around here are: 21 minutes running clock until the last minute (sometimes 22 minutes and last 2 game situation) start on the 40, 1st and 15 with 3 downs make a first down at the 25 Yd line and 10 yard line 4.000+ seconds before a throw is a 'sack' 6 point for a TD, 1 for 5 yd extra point 2 points for a stop on Def 3 points for an INT If there is a play off, then you can go for 2 from the 10 yard line. Offensive penalties are lose of down
I wish they'd include 1 point for causing a 'sack'
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orion320
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Post by orion320 on Jul 24, 2014 9:22:59 GMT -6
Most of the ones we attend are as follows.
30 minute running clock,each team runs 12-15 plays, 30 second play clock. Each team gets 2 series on offense with extra plays if time allows.
All plays start at the 40 going in 1 point for plays 5-9 yds 2 points for plays 10-20 yds 3 points for plays 20-30 yds 4 points for TD
Defense can score by Causing a sack 1 point Knockdown 1 point Interception 4 points
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Post by 90rocket on Jul 24, 2014 20:42:34 GMT -6
Do you guys typically line up in formations you use during the season? We are a pistol flexbone team. Our FB is usually only used as a blocker on passing plays with the exception of a throwback and middle screen. I was thinking of keeping everyone else in their typically spot and having our FB lineup offset to the QB so he can run some swing passes and outs.
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Post by coachklee on Jul 24, 2014 22:59:04 GMT -6
Do you guys typically line up in formations you use during the season? We are a pistol flexbone team. Our FB is usually only used as a blocker on passing plays with the exception of a throwback and middle screen. I was thinking of keeping everyone else in their typically spot and having our FB lineup offset to the QB so he can run some swing passes and outs. Swing him from pistol...not much different than a TB swinging/wheeling out of the I formation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by dbeck84 on Jul 25, 2014 7:48:50 GMT -6
The 7-on-7's that I've attended use a 40 yard field with no clock. The first team will run 10 offensive plays from the 40 yard line, then offense and defense will switch. I believe a 0-5 yard pass is 1 point for the defense, 6-15 yard pass 1 point for offense, 16-25 is 2 points, 26-35 is 3 points, touchdown is 4 points. Defense gets like 3 points for an interception and 1 for a sack. Some places will end with each team getting 4 plays from the 5 yard line to score one touchdown.
On a somewhat unrelated note, how do you feel about filming an opposing team during 7-on-7? Recently, we were at a 7-on-7 and a team which is on our schedule for the first time this year was playing on the adjacent field. One of the player's fathers was filming the opposite team on his iPad wearing our school colors. The opposing head coach sees him and comes unglued yelling at our head coach across the fields. After the game, he comes over to our camp area and accuses us of being bush league. Our conference requires film exchange, so we are going to get game film of them before our game anyways, so I don't see why it is a big deal.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 25, 2014 7:59:11 GMT -6
If there's a penalty on the PAT, it's automatically good/no good INTs give you the ball on a short field (+20 instead of +40 or w/e)
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 25, 2014 8:10:07 GMT -6
Pretty straight forward. How do you guys like to structure a multiple team 7 on 7? I'm thinking 10 minutes a piece, three downs to get a first, move the ball and score, finish up with maybe a college style overtime challenge for a "winner". Define "multiple team" Is this a tournament, with a shiny trophy at the end? Or is this your team, and a couple of other local teams whose coaches are good guys you know and have a relationship with? If the first--sorry can't help you If the second, I might have something
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Post by coachphillip on Jul 25, 2014 9:51:28 GMT -6
Four local teams are going. We know the other three HCs. Good guys we've built relationships with.
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Post by gibbs72 on Jul 25, 2014 10:49:40 GMT -6
Never really got all that fired up about the rules. Just line up and give my secondary as many reps as possible!
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 25, 2014 15:15:28 GMT -6
Four local teams are going. We know the other three HCs. Good guys we've built relationships with. Coach- I guess I was asking "Does this need to be a competition" like the tournament? Can this just be a GREAT opportunity to get in some excellent work?
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Post by knight9299 on Jul 25, 2014 15:28:44 GMT -6
Pretty straight forward. How do you guys like to structure a multiple team 7 on 7? I'm thinking 10 minutes a piece, three downs to get a first, move the ball and score, finish up with maybe a college style overtime challenge for a "winner". We have run a 7on league every Wednesday this summer and last with 5 other schools. 30 minute running clock. Start at the 45 3 plays to get to the 30. 3 plays to get to the 15 and 4 plays to score. 6 for TD, PAT at 3 is 1 point. PAT at 10 is 2 points. We went to a tournament that Notre Dame hosted and they used these rules. Far more realistic than points for catches or break ups like we did at a local college's league.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 25, 2014 15:51:29 GMT -6
We have run a 7on league every Wednesday this summer and last with 5 other schools. 30 minute running clock. Start at the 45 3 plays to get to the 30. 3 plays to get to the 15 and 4 plays to score. 6 for TD, PAT at 3 is 1 point. PAT at 10 is 2 points. We went to a tournament that Notre Dame hosted and they used these rules. Far more realistic than points for catches or break ups like we did at a local college's league.NOTHING in 7 on 7's like this is "realistic". My suggetion, if you know the coaches and they are good guys who won't be pricks..I say you script it up like you would a pass skell. Set up down and distances and hashes in advance, and call the offensive/defenisve play you would in that normal situation..and make sure EVERYONE--coaches/kids etc know in advance that you are competing to do your job as best you can, NOT competing to score 7-on-7 points... "Wins" in July/Aug mean very little....
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Post by pvogel on Jul 25, 2014 16:22:48 GMT -6
40 yd field. 3 downs to get 10. 4 downs to get 15. 4 downs to get 15 (score). One hand touch (less controversy+safety) TD = 6 1 pt conversion from 5 yds, 2 pt conversion from 10 INT = 3. No points for a stop. The point is that you prevented them from scoring.
1 blitz per game. 1 run per game.
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Post by pvogel on Jul 25, 2014 16:24:44 GMT -6
As for the points for breakups and stuff-
I don't like it not because its any more or less realistic or more or less fair. Its just way too damn hard hard to keep track of. Goodness gracious. Why is my score 19-4? Was it just 18-2? What happened? way too complicated.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jul 25, 2014 18:06:21 GMT -6
Was in some wierd 7 on 7 lately. Haven't been involved in offensive play calling for a few years so was my first time being around a 7on7 vs another team at a big camp I just got back from.
Anyway was surprised to see odd front teams play drop 8 the whole time. Ran a 3-3 stack a few years back and we always had to blitz one and have him take a knee. Something like 1/2 the team's teams where odd front and they all dropped 8. We followed up the 7on7 with a 12 play team thud and no surprise they didn't drop 8 when we started running the ball.
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Post by coachphillip on Jul 25, 2014 20:13:46 GMT -6
You're right, coach. I was looking more for formatting time for a learning experience. Not big into the scoring. The only score being kept would be in the overtime type deal at the end of the day. I didn't think about scripting it out like a pass skeleton session.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 25, 2014 21:32:53 GMT -6
You're right, coach. I was looking more for formatting time for a learning experience. Not big into the scoring. The only score being kept would be in the overtime type deal at the end of the day. I didn't think about scripting it out like a pass skeleton session. If that is the case then I think you get together with the other coaches and decide on the script set up and make gentlemen's agreements/explain the concept to avoid the douche bag wing T guy who will run empty all the time, and the jerk DC running 2 man. X amount of 1st and 10's x amount of 2nd and long, medium, short x amount of 3rd long, medium, short . Do we want to always be MOF or do we want to use hash. How will you handle "blitz" situations... (for us.. we would the blitzer(s) sprint forward a few steps, then take a knee to avoid a QB hand collision---)
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