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Post by coachjd on Dec 1, 2013 10:10:33 GMT -6
I read a great article that was linked to Coach Graboski's blog about teaching high school football players essential football vocabulary so they can best understand the concepts that need to be taught. I scratched my head on this at first, but it does make sense. I am very guilty of ASSUMING what my kids know. When I make my play sheets and OL rules I will use (EMOL) I know that (EMOL) is the End Man on the Line of Scrimmage and I say it all the time, but I am I teaching it?
Is anyone doing this??
Looking for help to compile a list of words that we can make sure we teach to our players this off-season.
Here are a few I could think of.
Force Player
Spill
Leverage
Contain
Splits
Gaps
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Post by tothehouse on Dec 1, 2013 11:13:21 GMT -6
Edge
Alley
Inside Out/Outside In
Shade
Fuzz (what we call the backside defensive players slow playing reverse, etc.)
I need a heavy dose of "Football IQ" for our team. This thread can help.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 1, 2013 11:17:09 GMT -6
It is probably been out there for years, but I just started to notice the phrase "set the edge" for defensive ends. When an OT or TE is trying to reach them, they have to "set the edge" and not give up outside leverage. I know it's not necessarily a word, per say, but your post has me thinking, too...
I also assume that your vocabulary will be directly based on your respective systems as well, right?
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 1, 2013 11:24:06 GMT -6
It is probably been out there for years, but I just started to notice the phrase "set the edge" for defensive ends. When an OT or TE is trying to reach them, they have to "set the edge" and not give up outside leverage. I know it's not necessarily a word, per say, but your post has me thinking, too... I also assume that your vocabulary will be directly based on your respective systems as well, right? I think there are a few different things starting to be discussed here. ONE..is a generalized (even though there is no universal language in football) set of football vocabulary (things like gaps, splits, spill, EMOL) one is general terms that mean somewhat different things for different people (force, contain etc) and one is specific terms you use (FUZZ, ) |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 1, 2013 11:45:24 GMT -6
It is probably been out there for years, but I just started to notice the phrase "set the edge" for defensive ends. When an OT or TE is trying to reach them, they have to "set the edge" and not give up outside leverage. I know it's not necessarily a word, per say, but your post has me thinking, too... I also assume that your vocabulary will be directly based on your respective systems as well, right? I think there are a few different things starting to be discussed here. ONE..is a generalized (even though there is no universal language in football) set of football vocabulary (things like gaps, splits, spill, EMOL) one is general terms that mean somewhat different things for different people (force, contain etc) and one is specific terms you use (FUZZ, ) Understood...good point. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 1, 2013 12:03:35 GMT -6
I think there are a few different things starting to be discussed here. ONE..is a generalized (even though there is no universal language in football) set of football vocabulary (things like gaps, splits, spill, EMOL) one is general terms that mean somewhat different things for different people (force, contain etc) and one is specific terms you use (FUZZ, ) Understood...good point. To be clear, I wasn't saying that was the original intention of the thread. Just that based on the two replies (discussing FUZZ, talking about systems) , it certainly seems poised to head into that direction. I think this is one area where the "playbook collectors" have an advantage. I have seen glossaries in most college/nfl playbooks, including the ones we created when I coached college ball. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Dec 1, 2013 12:49:45 GMT -6
To be clear, I wasn't saying that was the original intention of the thread. Just that based on the two replies (discussing FUZZ, talking about systems) , it certainly seems poised to head into that direction. I think this is one area where the "playbook collectors" have an advantage. I have seen glossaries in most college/nfl playbooks, including the ones we created when I coached college ball. No, I understood clearly what you meant. You helped me pump my breaks because I think I was going to lead the thread in exactly the direction you alluded to. haha. Thanks for providing the clarity in your statement though. |
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Post by newt21 on Dec 1, 2013 12:59:02 GMT -6
Splits
Leverage
Angles
Read Key
Covered/Uncovered
Gaps
Alignment Techniques (0, 2i, etc.)
Head/Hand Placement
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coachsmi0901
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Post by coachsmi0901 on Dec 1, 2013 13:39:14 GMT -6
One important one in our system is:
Slapd1ck
Used regularly in practice.
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Post by 33coach on Dec 1, 2013 14:12:08 GMT -6
I read a great article that was linked to Coach Graboski's blog about teaching high school football players essential football vocabulary so they can best understand the concepts that need to be taught. I scratched my head on this at first, but it does make sense. I am very guilty of ASSUMING what my kids know. When I make my play sheets and OL rules I will use (EMOL) I know that (EMOL) is the End Man on the Line of Scrimmage and I say it all the time, but I am I teaching it? Is anyone doing this?? Looking for help to compile a list of words that we can make sure we teach to our players this off-season. Here are a few I could think of. Force Player Spill Leverage Contain Splits Gaps Technique - (in terms of alignment) |
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Post by coachjd on Dec 1, 2013 19:18:31 GMT -6
for WR alignment and landmarks.
top of the numbers
bottom of the numbers
Hash Marks
Boundry
Field
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 1, 2013 19:39:10 GMT -6
In and Out--- in being towards the middle of the field Out towards either sideline
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Post by John Knight on Dec 1, 2013 19:41:44 GMT -6
Point of attack
Onside
Offside
Mesh
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Post by fantom on Dec 1, 2013 20:01:46 GMT -6
Eligible receivers.
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Post by gamedaymusings on Dec 2, 2013 0:34:50 GMT -6
As the many posts here have shown, these terms will be very position/side-of-the-ball specific. You simply need different terms for different positions.
Since you mentioned OL, maybe a few you could use are:
LOS
NT/DT/DE
twist/stunt
Strong/Weak
Sam/Mike/Will/Buck
Running Lane
3-step drop/5-step drop/Play Action
"block down"
chop block/chip/scoop/pick up/seal/reach
rollout/bootleg/naked
empty
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Post by dbeck84 on Dec 2, 2013 11:53:12 GMT -6
It is probably been out there for years, but I just started to notice the phrase "set the edge" for defensive ends. When an OT or TE is trying to reach them, they have to "set the edge" and not give up outside leverage. I know it's not necessarily a word, per say, but your post has me thinking, too... I also assume that your vocabulary will be directly based on your respective systems as well, right? I think there are a few different things starting to be discussed here. ONE..is a generalized (even though there is no universal language in football) set of football vocabulary (things like gaps, splits, spill, EMOL) one is general terms that mean somewhat different things for different people (force, contain etc) and one is specific terms you use (FUZZ, ) You mean tier 1, tier 2, and tier 3 vocabulary? Holy crap I've been doing too much common core work lately. |
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Post by coachbw on Dec 2, 2013 12:18:36 GMT -6
Add in all of the common play names that you use. A few years back we told a LB to step up in the hole vs. Iso, he asked what Iso was. I would think Iso, sweep, trap, etc. all are pretty universal for us and most of the football savy kids, but I am sure there are some on almost every squad who are confused by them. Especially if they aren't in your system offensively.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Dec 2, 2013 12:36:08 GMT -6
"Yes, dear."
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 2, 2013 13:23:06 GMT -6
Great story about Brett Favre not knowing what "nickel" meant...as an early NFL player, he leaned over to Ty Detmer (another QB) and asked him what the coach meant by Nickel.
When Detmer explained to Favre it meant taking a LB out for a CB, Favre responded with, "Is that it? Who cares!?"
Just goes to show, if a D1, all everything, NFL QB doesn't know what is meant by "nickel", don't assume kids know what gaps, traps, sweeps, zone, down blocks, etc etc is.
Great thread.
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Post by 33coach on Dec 2, 2013 14:24:41 GMT -6
As the many posts here have shown, these terms will be very position/side-of-the-ball specific. You simply need different terms for different positions. Since you mentioned OL, maybe a few you could use are: LOS NT/DT/DE twist/stunt Strong/Weak Sam/Mike/Will/Buck Running Lane 3-step drop/5-step drop/Play Action "block down" chop block/chip/scoop/pick up/seal/reach rollout/bootleg/naked empty Reach / hook / pull / kickout / first level / second level / third level / Far Safety / Near Safety / MOF |
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Post by John Knight on Dec 2, 2013 19:43:34 GMT -6
We had a kid mold his mouthpiece to his bottom teeth. He had no football vocabulary at all!
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Post by 33coach on Dec 2, 2013 19:45:04 GMT -6
We had a kid mold his mouthpiece to his bottom teeth. He had no football vocabulary at all! LOL |
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Post by 33coach on Dec 2, 2013 19:45:57 GMT -6
"Holding", "Clipping", "Block in the Back", "Big on Big"
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Post by 33coach on Dec 2, 2013 19:48:34 GMT -6
I think this is one area where the "playbook collectors" have an advantage. I have seen glossaries in most college/nfl playbooks, including the ones we created when I coached college ball. im one of those playbook collectors. i love the glossary. you would be amazed at what has changed in those definitions over the years |
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Post by realdawg on Dec 3, 2013 5:09:19 GMT -6
Reach, down, pinch, squeeze just a few that come to mind.
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Post by pvogel on Dec 3, 2013 5:45:36 GMT -6
If we want to create one based on plays alone we could create a massive thread. And a vital book.
I'm always shocked when people use "smash" to call a run play. Our current D staff calls any counter a "waggle". I always described a waggle as a type of bootleg. Needless to say I was lost for quite a little bit. I was also running scout team one day and they asked me to run that "fold under ice". I felt like a HS kid again. I was so lost. Not a knock on our staff its just a funny example of how different everyones terms are.
now that ive shared that i might as well contribute
- squeeze
- wrong arm
- Correct arm (or Right arm)
- OAF (Outside arm free)
- Force. That one kills me
- Field/Boundary(or Bench)
- Flats
- Hook/Curl zone (or SCF- Seam, Curl, Flat)
- "top down" (referring to DBs keeping everything in front of them)
And last but certainly not least:
- Top of the numbers (as in the top part of the actual number... so its towards the middle of the field)
- Bottom of the numbers (as in the bottom part of the actual number... so its towards the sideline)
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Post by John Knight on Dec 3, 2013 5:59:42 GMT -6
How about this one? ICBS
ill conceived bull shi# !!
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Post by John Knight on Dec 3, 2013 6:02:54 GMT -6
BANJO - Vs. a 2 back set a BANJO call is made by the Mac and Outside backer. BANJO lets the backer know that the back and #2 receiver might cross and they will make the switch if they see them cross. BANJO is a pre-snap call. Any time #2 runs a flat pattern widen with the receiver and look to #1 start to sit down underneath the curl
SMASH- if a receiver runs a stop route or a hard inside slant route they call SMASH to the outside backer. SMASH tells the LB that the corner will stay on the #1 receiver. Corners need to be able to come off the receiver after the ball is thrown to a crossing pattern and squeeze the crosser not letting him cross his face. The corner is primary contain
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Post by realdawg on Dec 3, 2013 7:44:53 GMT -6
Just to show how un-universal, universal vocabulary is, banjo to us means the LB has the back out of the backfield man to man.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 3, 2013 7:46:00 GMT -6
Oh and set the edge is another one. I had a JV player who this year could not ever understand what that meant. Maybe we did a crappy job coaching it, but he never understood it at all.
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